The Sanctuary
Site Discussion => Help & Suggestions => Topic started by: Slave of the Beast on November 13, 2014, 05:29:50 pm
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You may be warned for the following:- Blatantly derailing a thread and going completely against the conversation flow or derailing with the purpose of harassing another user.
Sorry, man. Everyone's gotta follow the rules. We let one person break a rule, we have to let everyone do it.
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I just saw on the news they are actually making this a real issue and punishing restaurant owners for not giving these freaks special treatment.:facepalm:
So which bathroom should these cross dressing clowns be using?
I mean the section of people posting here who weren't stupid enough to sign up for a ghost town that literally called it self "totse2"
It was the second totse.
:umad:
I need help clarifying something.
Arnox, given that you were directly responsible in the derailment of that last-quoted thread with 3 off-topic posts, and you're no virgin when it comes to OT posting (http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=3446.50), is it reasonable to assume that we can now ignore the offical warning re: blatant derailment; "We let one person break a rule, we have to let everyone do it.".
Even if you don't take direct responsibility for that thread being derailed from tranny bathroom useage -> bitching about totse2 and sanctuary, why should anyone take warnings about thread derailment seriously when they see their Admin actively participating in the very thing they've been warned not to do?
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why should anyone take warnings about thread derailment seriously when they see their Admin actively participating in the very thing they've been warned not to do?
the banlist is littered with decent users who 'derailed threads'
but certain other users and staff get to do whatever they want with impunity
this place is a fucking mormon joke without a decent punchline
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No sir we cannot don't you realize it's only punishable if you're "flippant"
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4637.msg60229;topicseen#msg60229
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Natural flow of conversation imo.
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Natural flow of conversation imo.
your opinion of what is and isn't derailment is about as confused as your gender
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Natural flow of conversation imo.
Shut the fuck up imo.
You should just stay quiet when stuff like this comes up because FUCK YOU ZEK!
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Natural flow of conversation imo.
your opinion of what is and isn't derailment is about as confused as your gender
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^^^^^Natural flow of conversation.
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Just let it flow man, let it flow.
I don't know, some folks have a higher tolerance for what is deemed as natural conversation flow than others. Just apply some common sense. If you are actually trying to disrupt a thread, then it's pretty noticeable and you could be infracted for it. Other things may be a bit off topic, but still fit within the "natural flow of the conversation" parameters.
I don't infract much for derailment because I like to let threads form their own shape. It's just when people are intentionally disruptive and general prats outside of the general disruption and general prat designated space that I pause to determine what I want to do.
I'm a little surprised that people still ask questions about whether or not they can post a certain way. If that little forum voice inside your head is telling you something, then it's often wise to heed it.
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Just let it flow man, let it flow.
I don't know, some folks have a higher tolerance for what is deemed as natural conversation flow than others. Just apply some common sense. If you are actually trying to disrupt a thread, then it's pretty noticeable and you could be infracted for it. Other things may be a bit off topic, but still fit within the "natural flow of the conversation" parameters.
I don't infract much for derailment because I like to let threads form their own shape. It's just when people are intentionally disruptive and general prats outside of the general disruption and general prat designated space that I pause to determine what I want to do.
I'm a little surprised that people still ask questions about whether or not they can post a certain way. If that little forum voice inside your head is telling you something, then it's often wise to heed it.
take a look at the fucking banned users then and you'll see why threads like this keep getting made there is a clear double standard to how these rules are enforced as evidenced by Arnox and his antagonistic behavior last night
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take a look at the fucking banned users then and you'll see why threads like this keep getting made there is a clear double standard to how these rules are enforced as evidenced by Arnox and his antagonistic behavior last night
Hmm... I'd better not stick my foot in my mouth on that one.
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Natural flow of conversation imo.
In relation to the OP the 'natural flow' argument, i.e. conversation that has absolutely nothing to do with the OP, could be applied to any thread that turns into a tranny flamefest/Arnox is a faggot/this site sucks ass discussion. It would be perfectly valid using your version of 'natural flow'; if that's where the conversation goes then so be it. But apparently it isn't valid; look at the banlist.
It would also mean you could derail what ever you liked with some of your attention-seeking 'let's be nice to each other and talk about kittens' tripe. Oh, I forgot, you already do that with absolute impunity
Thank you for your usual revealing and high-calibre input, Zek.
Just let it flow man, let it flow.
I don't know, some folks have a higher tolerance for what is deemed as natural conversation flow than others. Just apply some common sense. If you are actually trying to disrupt a thread, then it's pretty noticeable and you could be infracted for it. Other things may be a bit off topic, but still fit within the "natural flow of the conversation" parameters.
I don't infract much for derailment because I like to let threads form their own shape. It's just when people are intentionally disruptive and general prats outside of the general disruption and general prat designated space that I pause to determine what I want to do.
If I post or read a thread I don't want it derailed within ~20 posts to a completely unrelated topic; it's a hugely annoying waste of my time, especially if I'm the OP. I don't care how 'nice' or 'naturally flowing' the derailing prat is.
I'm a little surprised that people still ask questions about whether or not they can post a certain way. If that little forum voice inside your head is telling you something, then it's often wise to heed it.
You should talk to some of your colleagues about the little voices inside their heads, Idio.
Really, you should.
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If I post or read a thread I don't want it derailed within ~20 posts to a completely unrelated topic; it's a hugely annoying waste of my time, especially if I'm the OP. I don't care how 'nice' or 'naturally flowing' the derailing prat is.
as opposed to having interesting and knowledgeable threads sit with 0 replies because there is either nothing to add to the conversation anymore, no one wants to get infracted for 'derailing', or no one knows anything about that particular subject?
you can't make rules to enforce 'quality content' and magically have threads full of knowledge and learning appear......... and sometimes the 'derailed' conversations become even more interesting than the OP
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@ fanglekai's ban: REALLY??
Ok hitler just ban all the dissenters.
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If I post or read a thread I don't want it derailed within ~20 posts to a completely unrelated topic; it's a hugely annoying waste of my time, especially if I'm the OP. I don't care how 'nice' or 'naturally flowing' the derailing prat is.
as opposed to having interesting and knowledgeable threads sit with 0 replies because there is either nothing to add to the conversation anymore, no one wants to get infracted for 'derailing', or no one knows anything about that particular subject?
If there's nothing to be said then why try saying it?
If an OP is that good then the mods can either a) pin it directly or b) aggregate such threads via a pinned link thread. The latter point is best achieved by a forum mod who understands what qualifies as good information. We don't have dedicated forum mods, which is a problem when it comes to the specialist forums... but that's a different issue.
you can't make rules to enforce 'quality content' and magically have threads full of knowledge and learning appear.........
I never said you could. I'd just prefer them not to be filled with irrelevant shite.
and sometimes the 'derailed' conversations become even more interesting than the OP
That's occasionally true. Make a rule and there'll invariably be exceptions; they should be treated as such.
But that's not what this thread is about.
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@ fanglekai's ban: REALLY??
Ok hitler just ban all the dissenters.
This^^^^
plus, you know, there is an ignore feature
if someone 'derails a thread' a few times, use it
its not like anyone is forcing you to read posts against your will
what, does it make your finger tired scrolling an extra inch to pass a low-content post and move on to the next one?
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I think arnox needs to "cool off" that ban buttom for a while.
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If there's nothing to be said then why try saying it?
If an OP is that good then the mods can either a) pin it directly or b) aggregate such threads via a pinned link thread. The latter point is best achieved by a forum mod who understands what qualifies as good information. We don't have dedicated forum mods, which is a problem when it comes to the specialist forums... but that's a different issue
I agree, arnox needs to use his moderators better, he is just fucking around and playing at being a 'webmaster'
I never said you could. I'd just prefer them not to be filled with irrelevant shite.
well I would prefer free daily blowjobs from a female of my choice
but we don't just get what we want, we have to compromise sometimes
the turmoil at this place does far more damage than a few errant posts
Make a rule and there'll invariably be exceptions; they should be treated as such.
On a 'case by case' basis, right?
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you can't make rules to enforce 'quality content' and magically have threads full of knowledge and learning appear.........
I never said you could. I'd just prefer them not to be filled with irrelevant shite.
and sometimes the 'derailed' conversations become even more interesting than the OP
That's occasionally true. Make a rule and there'll invariably be exceptions; they should be treated as such.
But that's not what this thread is about.
I agree with slave on the first point. I have realistic expectations at to what is expected as far as content goes but it only makes sense to do away with irrelevant shit that isn't on topic or even sensible.
On the second point regarding conversations that have been derailed but still informative I would say that those aren't the off topic posts/thread derailment we are discouraging. If what you have to say ends up turning the direction of the thread elsewhere its no problem for mods to start a new thread with the posts that are off topic of the original thread but still good shit.
Honestly being off topic isn't the worst thing in the world. It is true there are situations where they add to the conversation. But its just when those off topic post are consistently shit one liners with no relevance we have a problem.
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Oh yeah, SOTB, I am sure you remember when I typed something like 'you are the last person we need as moderator' you know I was joking, right?
you are a-ok in my book
just thought I would type that, since I am conversing with you
feeling some friendly feelings towards the world for once because the opiates are kicking in
:psych:
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Derailment is one issue that can be debated on merits and cons for quite a while
However the common trend I see people complaining/confused about is who and what is the target for punishment when it comes to derailment. Because as it is it serves as an excuse to ban people with undesirable viewpoints to emotionally unstable pansy's and I believe we can all agree that that is a much bigger issue at hand here, the pure hypocrisy of it all.
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Because as it is it serves as an excuse to ban people with undesirable viewpoints to emotionally unstable pansy's and I believe we can all agree that that is a much bigger issue at hand here, the pure hypocrisy of it all.
Exactly. "case by case basis" is code word for ban the people we don't like and ignore the ass kissers.
I can personally attest to that. Back before Zek was outted as being definitively Zek I was sympathetic to the administration, but as soon as I started disagreeing with Arnox, that VERY DAY he gave me a bullshit warning. Ended up taking it back after I made a thread about it being bullshit..
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I agree with slave on the first point. I have realistic expectations at to what is expected as far as content goes but it only makes sense to do away with irrelevant shit that isn't on topic or even sensible.
On the second point regarding conversations that have been derailed but still informative I would say that those aren't the off topic posts/thread derailment we are discouraging. If what you have to say ends up turning the direction of the thread elsewhere its no problem for mods to start a new thread with the posts that are off topic of the original thread but still good shit.
Honestly being off topic isn't the worst thing in the world. It is true there are situations where they add to the conversation. But its just when those off topic post are consistently shit one liners with no relevance we have a problem.
yeah, I am not talking about non-sequiter posts like 'nigger' in the middle of a detailed chemistry thread (though I laugh at that kinda shit)......
as you have seen though, sometimes posts that seem OT or 'derailing' are mistakenly infracted, when really they were answering someone else, commenting on anothers post, or making some vague reference that the website administrator didn't understand
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Because as it is it serves as an excuse to ban people with undesirable viewpoints to emotionally unstable pansy's and I believe we can all agree that that is a much bigger issue at hand here, the pure hypocrisy of it all.
Exactly. "case by case basis" is code word for ban the people we don't like and ignore the ass kissers.
I can personally attest to that. Back before Zek was outted as being definitively Zek I was sympathetic to the administration, but as soon as I started disagreeing with Arnox, that VERY DAY he gave me a bullshit warning. Ended up taking it back after I made a thread about it being bullshit..
this can be seen by the people who end up having watched under their names you can almost guarantee it will show up a short time after something negative is said about Arnie or Zek
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I don't understand the problem with it being dealt with by a case by case basis. The fact remains that every case of harassment is different. Every case differs in areas like intention, aggression, how often it occurs and various other factors so it would be nearly impossible to blanket one punishment when almost all cases will vary.
Regarding off topic post, the hungry niglet has a point. We all know which posts are off topic when it comes to post that are as simple as "nigger" or "OP IS A FAGGOT" but its the ones like "Candy ass roody poos" we have to watch out for. I would argue the places where infraction for off topic post should be discouraged are the subforums Spurious Generalities, Half Baked and Bitch and Moan, NIMF and maybe I Found It On The Web. I say these forums because these are the ones where most of the mistaken infractions occur. I dont think most people would have a problem with that since all the other forums on the site are geared towards a specialty and off topic/derailing posts are way easier to spot.
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I don't understand the problem with it being dealt with by a case by case basis. The fact remains that every case of harassment is different. Every case differs in areas like intention, aggression, how often it occurs and various other factors so it would be nearly impossible to blanket one punishment when almost all cases will vary.
Regarding off topic post, the hungry niglet has a point. We all know which posts are off topic when it comes to post that are as simple as "nigger" or "OP IS A FAGGOT" but its the ones like "Candy ass roody poos" we have to watch out for. I would argue the places where infraction for off topic post should be discouraged are the subforums Spurious Generalities, Half Baked and Bitch and Moan, NIMF and maybe I Found It On The Web. I say these forums because these are the ones where most of the mistaken infractions occur. I dont think most people would have a problem with that since all the other forums on the site are geared towards a specialty and off topic/derailing posts are way easier to spot.
it's funny because those forums you mentioned specifically bitch and moan seems to have the highest volume of infractions flying from it for hurt feelings
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I don't understand the problem with it being dealt with by a case by case basis. The fact remains that every case of harassment is different. Every case differs in areas like intention, aggression, how often it occurs and various other factors so it would be nearly impossible to blanket one punishment when almost all cases will vary.
Regarding off topic post, the hungry niglet has a point. We all know which posts are off topic when it comes to post that are as simple as "nigger" or "OP IS A FAGGOT" but its the ones like "Candy ass roody poos" we have to watch out for. I would argue the places where infraction for off topic post should be discouraged are the subforums Spurious Generalities, Half Baked and Bitch and Moan, NIMF and maybe I Found It On The Web. I say these forums because these are the ones where most of the mistaken infractions occur. I dont think most people would have a problem with that since all the other forums on the site are geared towards a specialty and off topic/derailing posts are way easier to spot.
those forums you mentioned are, strangely enough, the most policed places on the site.
they are also, strangely enough, where a certain subset of the zoklet crowd hangs out.
those users are, strangely enough, the ones who tend to disrupt the 'parlor atmosphere' that arnox hungers for.
it would also be strange as hell if I could find lots of off topic posts that are untouched in the more 'informative' parts of the site, wouldn't it?
fortunately I am too high and unmotivated to go and find those posts. anyone autistic and bored want to give it a shot?
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Yes the forums I mentioned are the most policed places on the sites. But I'm not the one policing them with infractions. Maybe Ill talk to Arnox about "infraction free" zones being the forums I mentioned. Unless a post directly violates the rules (cp, pi, etc) then its fine as it is there. I think that would allow the users who want to have their shits and giggles to have those shits and giggles outside of the more serious conversations.
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Yes the forums I mentioned are the most policed places on the sites. But I'm not the one policing them with infractions. Maybe Ill talk to Arnox about "infraction free" zones being the forums I mentioned. Unless a post directly violates the rules (cp, pi, etc) then its fine as it is there. I think that would allow the users who want to have their shits and giggles to have those shits and giggles outside of the more serious conversations.
we have been saying this all along, or at least I have....arnox was abso-fucking-lutely against it. He will never acquiesce, the reason those are the most policed places on the site is because he wants to run those people off the site, or at least corrall and try to tame them (which will never fucking happen)
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Never.
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lol Risir is back
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Yes the forums I mentioned are the most policed places on the sites. But I'm not the one policing them with infractions. Maybe Ill talk to Arnox about "infraction free" zones being the forums I mentioned. Unless a post directly violates the rules (cp, pi, etc) then its fine as it is there. I think that would allow the users who want to have their shits and giggles to have those shits and giggles outside of the more serious conversations.
we have been saying this all along, or at least I have....arnox was abso-fucking-lutely against it. He will never acquiesce, the reason those are the most policed places on the site is because he wants to run those people off the site, or at least corrall and try to tame them (which will never fucking happen)
fucking this look at the grasping at straws he and zek make to ban users that hurt their feels
zek can't even follow the modding rules Arnox himself berated Edify for and made a thread addressing when Idio did it but will there be an address from the faggon dragon about zek nope probably just bullshit dismissals and half assed excuses
why oh why does this place reek of double standards huh?
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But I'm not the one policing them with infractions.
look at the grasping at straws he and zek make to ban users that hurt their feels
>>implying any post on this site affected me emotionally
>>implying I want users banned
>>TOP KEK
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But I'm not the one policing them with infractions.
look at the grasping at straws he and zek make to ban users that hurt their feels
>>implying any post on this site affected me emotionally
>>implying I want users banned
>>TOP KEK
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he was in reference to Arnox you fucking moron hansen
kek'd
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he was in reference to Arnox you fucking moron hansen
kek'd
Sorry. Forgot the world didnt revolve around me.
Anti-Kek
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he was in reference to Arnox you fucking moron hansen
kek'd
Sorry. Forgot the world didnt revolve around me.
Anti-Kek
This is water.
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Blatant thread derailment is different from normal conversation flow.
Please read the OP of this thread for clarification:
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=3529.0
Off-topic posting is NOT against the rules UNLESS it's blatant derailing such as the following.
"Have you guys ever gone snowboarding before?"
"I like whipped cream LOL."
This however is normal conversation flow.
"I really like pizza."
"Especially ones with pepperoni toppings."
"I think pepperoni's pretty gross..."
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Blatant thread derailment is different from normal conversation flow.
Please read the OP of this thread for clarification:
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=3529.0
Off-topic posting is NOT against the rules UNLESS it's blatant derailing such as the following.
"Have you guys ever gone snowboarding before?"
"I like whipped cream LOL."
This however is normal conversation flow.
"I really like pizza."
"Especially ones with pepperoni toppings."
"I think pepperoni's pretty gross..."
so then you're admitting you're unfairly banning people because this certainly sidesteps a lot of the discussion about the un even handling of this
along with the fact one of your moderators threw a tizzy and banned someone today because their feelings were hurt and they were looking for the flimsiest of excuses along with deleting the aforementioned post the user received a ban for
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how the fuck is this a rule
kill yourself
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how the fuck is this a rule
kill yourself
how the fuck can't even basic rules be reasonably enforced is a solid question too
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What are rules?
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I'm not reading all that, but pm me if you see things getting derailed in serious forums. I heard W&C was becoming a mess but I don't read that forum much so I don't know the specifics of it. either PM or report post, whatever.
generally I'll just hide the post and ask the poster to stop being a knob, so it's not like you'd be asking for a ban or even infraction.
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"I'm not reading all that" -- global moderator, intosanctuary.com
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I'm not reading all that, but pm me if you see things getting derailed in serious forums. I heard W&C was becoming a mess but I don't read that forum much so I don't know the specifics of it. either PM or report post, whatever.
generally I'll just hide the post and ask the poster to stop being a knob, so it's not like you'd be asking for a ban or even infraction.
it isn't so much about getting everyone banned it's more about why is the admin and 1 other mod being so picky and selective about banning people he disagrees with under the guise of it being off topic they are unevenly enforcing the rules and 1 of the worst derailer's is on staff
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"I'm not reading all that" -- global moderator, intosanctuary.com
indeed. politics are for faggots, let alone website politics. I just stopped by to offer to help if I can.
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Blatant thread derailment is different from normal conversation flow.
Please read the OP of this thread for clarification:
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=3529.0
Off-topic posting is NOT against the rules UNLESS it's blatant derailing such as the following.
"Have you guys ever gone snowboarding before?"
"I like whipped cream LOL."
This however is normal conversation flow.
"I really like pizza."
"Especially ones with pepperoni toppings."
"I think pepperoni's pretty gross..."
It's not blatant derailing because it took you more than one irrelevant, low content, post to derail a thread? I'll remember that for future reference. :facepalm:
That being the case, why was Fang' banned for 'derailing' Equanimity's shitty H&S troll thread? (http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4634.msg59998#msg59998) Even though every post Fang' made referred to something that was either said in that thread, or the thread itself? In reality were tears shed because his posts may have been relevant, but they weren't parlour enough?
In contrast:
due to physicalicol problems
every1 be super nice to him ok?
physicalicol
Blatant derailing: First post after OP. Immediate derailment; may as well have typed 'Lrn2spl'. Too much of a passive-agressive prick to do that so just quoted instead.
Medical necessity, not physiological necessity. I mean that's their verbiage, in my experience.
What treatments and medications would help people cope with this? Could zombify them with hardcore drugs, but why would you? They can lead full lives without that junk, so long's they get the HRT and surgeries they need.
there is not a medical need they body will continue to function perfectly healthy perhaps even more healthy than a body on HRT and surgeries
there are a lot of people that express improvements simply through counseling there isn't a 100% perfect treatment for any mental health illness at all
I'm kinda bored of this now.
way to make an entirely unnecessary spam post in a thread that has remained on topic :tup:
I do what I can.
Wait no:
(http://i.imgur.com/oLg6P6V.gif)
Blatant derailing: That's nice. Just as whipped cream has nothing to do with snowboarding, so Zek's tiredness has nothing to do with the topic at hand. He then doesn't even deny he's derailing; responds with sarcasm. Follows that up with a derailing shitpost.
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Zek (And I've barely, barely scratched the surface) makes derailing posts that follow on from nothing, just as your "blatant derailing" example shows, because he knows that you will blindly excuse double standards as he's one of your 'very carefully picked' and 'professional' staff members who is 'nice'. Contrary to what you may claim, that's all that really registers on your radar. And why should he think otherwise? You gormlessly treat his 'cats n' hugs forum' suggestion seriously whereas everyone else shat on the obvious wind-up, including Fang' who got the boot for his harshness, thereby proving to Equazek that you're a real Autisticus Maximus obsessed with 'parlour' behaviour.
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"I'm not reading all that" -- global moderator, intosanctuary.com
indeed. politics are for faggots, let alone website politics. I just stopped by to offer to help if I can.
you're one of the good ones
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Blatant thread derailment is different from normal conversation flow.
Please read the OP of this thread for clarification:
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=3529.0
Off-topic posting is NOT against the rules UNLESS it's blatant derailing such as the following.
"Have you guys ever gone snowboarding before?"
"I like whipped cream LOL."
This however is normal conversation flow.
"I really like pizza."
"Especially ones with pepperoni toppings."
"I think pepperoni's pretty gross..."
It's not blatant derailing because it took you more than one irrelevant, low content, post to derail a thread? I'll remember that for future reference. :facepalm:
That being the case, why was Fang' banned for 'derailing' Equanimity's shitty H&S troll thread? (http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4634.msg59998#msg59998) Even though every post Fang' made referred to something that was either said in that thread, or the thread itself? In reality were tears shed because his posts may have been relevant, but they weren't parlour enough?
In contrast:
due to physicalicol problems
every1 be super nice to him ok?
physicalicol
Blatant derailing: First post after OP. Immediate derailment; may as well have typed 'Lrn2spl'. Too much of a passive-agressive prick to do that so just quoted instead.
Medical necessity, not physiological necessity. I mean that's their verbiage, in my experience.
What treatments and medications would help people cope with this? Could zombify them with hardcore drugs, but why would you? They can lead full lives without that junk, so long's they get the HRT and surgeries they need.
there is not a medical need they body will continue to function perfectly healthy perhaps even more healthy than a body on HRT and surgeries
there are a lot of people that express improvements simply through counseling there isn't a 100% perfect treatment for any mental health illness at all
I'm kinda bored of this now.
way to make an entirely unnecessary spam post in a thread that has remained on topic :tup:
I do what I can.
Wait no:
(http://i.imgur.com/oLg6P6V.gif)
Blatant derailing: That's nice. Just as whipped cream has nothing to do with snowboarding, so Zek's tiredness has nothing to do with the topic at hand. He then doesn't even deny he's derailing; responds with sarcasm. Follows that up with a derailing shitpost.
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Zek (And I've barely, barely scratched the surface) makes derailing posts that follow on from nothing, just as your "blatant derailing" example shows, because he knows that you will blindly excuse double standards as he's one of your 'very carefully picked' and 'professional' staff members who is 'nice'. Contrary to what you may claim, that's all that really registers on your radar. And why should he think otherwise? You gormlessly treat his 'cats n' hugs forum' suggestion seriously whereas everyone else shat on the obvious wind-up, including Fang' who got the boot for his harshness, thereby proving to Equazek that you're a real Autisticus Maximus obsessed with 'parlour' behaviour.
he will continue to ignore evidence and well thought out posts as he has done repeatedly in your thread and mine because they are too "flippant" for him while also coming up with weak dismissals and avoidance to the completely obvious truths the posters bring up
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Just as before, I am perfectly willing to listen if one isn't condescending, flaming, etc. And the thing is, I see no reason why I should demod her. I could go through every one of her posts I'm sure and explain how each one was just fine.
he will continue to ignore evidence and well thought out posts as he has done repeatedly in your thread and mine because they are too "flippant" for him while also coming up with weak dismissals and avoidance to the completely obvious truths the posters bring up
Yes, Arnox never enters a burning parlour without first making sure he has several easy escape routes.
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You give him too much credit, it's more like when he gets into a sticky situation he grabs whatever is closest, throws it threw a window and jumps out.
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Don't be a coward Arnox, reply to the points SOTB brought up.
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Not saying here specifically, but in general, the vast majority of infractions and bans are handed out by butthurt staff members who can't take it. It's really a global phenomenon rather than a site-specific farce. And that's just because people in general are weak, easy to ruffle, have no real backbone, are easily offended, and can't resist the impulse to seek revenge on anyone who criticizes them or their actions. Give these people just a little bit of power and they will without fail abuse it in order to satiate their own personal egos, all the while denying their abuse of authority with bogus "justifications" and "explanations". The latter years of &Totse and Zoklet were prime examples of this, but far from the only ones.
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Don't be a coward Arnox, reply to the points SOTB brought up.
Arnox won't touch Slave's post with a 100 foot pole. There is too much truth and accurate analysis in it, and of course there is ZERO answer to any of it. Last time when pressed Arnox gave the feeble explanation "meh, there wasn't useful information in the thread any how". Zek can literally do what he wants where he wants with complete impunity. Which also goes against Arnox's EMPTY proclamation of keeping close tabs on his mods, and getting rid of the toxic ones. He doesn't give a fuck how many people get banned or leave on their own accord because of all this hypocrisy and Zek's derailing agenda....to him its now just a pissing match he loses every single day.
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Daggeryou is a faggot. Derailing<<<
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Don't be a coward Arnox, reply to the points SOTB brought up.
Arnox won't touch Slave's post with a 100 foot pole. There is too much truth and accurate analysis in it, and of course there is ZERO answer to any of it. Last time when pressed Arnox gave the feeble explanation "meh, there wasn't useful information in the thread any how". Zek can literally do what he wants where he wants with complete impunity. Which also goes against Arnox's EMPTY proclamation of keeping close tabs on his mods, and getting rid of the toxic ones. He doesn't give a fuck how many people get banned or leave on their own accord because of all this hypocrisy and Zek's derailing agenda....to him its now just a pissing match he loses every single day.
I still want to know why he hasn't addressed Zek banning risir and deleting a post he made the other night even though Arnox has made multiple threads about how the staff won't do that
or the infractions Risir recieved for posting relevant images in two similar threads
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RisiR was not infracted for posting pictures. I reversed his ban and his warning, which were given for sharing PI. It turned out to be a joke, but looked very plausible. I'm not okay with people posting each other's names and addresses. Shit's lame.
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RisiR was not infracted for posting pictures. I reversed his ban and his warning, which were given for sharing PI. It turned out to be a joke, but looked very plausible. I'm not okay with people each other's names and addresses. Shit's lame.
Where you see plausibility the rest of us see incompetence. The joke is on us.
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Arnox clearly has no intention of replying to this. Fuck. What's even the point of this anymore? Do you think anything we say will change this place? I'm losing hope. What's the point in coming to this place? It's over.
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RisiR was not infracted for posting pictures. I reversed his ban and his warning, which were given for sharing PI. It turned out to be a joke, but looked very plausible. I'm not okay with people each other's names and addresses. Shit's lame.
Where you see plausibility the rest of us see incompetence. The joke is on us.
Posting PI, spamming the same post repeatedly:
is what you put in the ban list only post that was "spammed" was the one of your legs
also it doesn't matter how you feel about it he posted a joke Paki Penis is not someones name and you banned someone unfairly you're incompetent just because you reversed it doesn't change the fact you're incompetent
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Paki Penis is not someones name
Hahahahaha.... :tup:
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Paki Penis is not someones name
Hahahahaha.... :tup:
I loled when I saw it
even if it was zek you and Arnox fucked that whole banning people who post PI up when you said it had to be verified so you could keep pretending you were someone you're not so even the fact that you can't ban someone for making a joke that looks like unverified PI is your fault you fucking moron
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Zek sent me a PM asking if the PI was real and I told him to ask Abdul himself like he told me to do when I asked if anyones PI has been verified. Then I got banned, lol.
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Zek sent me a PM asking if the PI was real and I told him to ask Abdul himself like he told me to do when I asked if anyones PI has been verified. Then I got banned, lol.
what wonderful modding that in and of itself proves zek is incapable of actually modding this place along with the fact the post he linked was deleted
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Posting PI, spamming the same post repeatedly:
is what you put in the ban list only post that was "spammed" was the one of your legs
also it doesn't matter how you feel about it he posted a joke Paki Penis is not someones name and you banned someone unfairly you're incompetent just because you reversed it doesn't change the fact you're incompetent
He posted Paki Penis repeatedly. That was the post he was spamming; I removed it a bunch.
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Posting PI, spamming the same post repeatedly:
is what you put in the ban list only post that was "spammed" was the one of your legs
also it doesn't matter how you feel about it he posted a joke Paki Penis is not someones name and you banned someone unfairly you're incompetent just because you reversed it doesn't change the fact you're incompetent
He posted Paki Penis repeatedly. That was the post he was spamming; I removed it a bunch.
so you deleted the posts apparently repeatedly because that's why you're not supposed to do that If you didn't notice
still sounds pretty incompetent even more so now you're really giving fine examples of why you should be demoded/never should have been modded in the first place
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Yeah posts like that I will remove. It sucks to be banned for joking around and not even doing anything malicious, but when it comes to serious PI like that I'm not going to let it sit there while I try to figure out what to do with it. Was PMing him about it, and if he hadn't continued to post it as I considered the matter he never would have been warned.
I'm starting to feel that the verification process is an impractical way of handling PI.
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I'm starting to feel that the verification process is an impractical way of handling PI.
No shit, Sherlock.
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yep.
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Yeah posts like that I will remove. It sucks to be banned for joking around and not even doing anything malicious, but when it comes to serious PI like that I'm not going to let it sit there while I try to figure out what to do with it. Was PMing him about it, and if he hadn't continued to post it as I considered the matter he never would have been warned.
I'm starting to feel that the verification process is an impractical way of handling PI.
no shit what gave you that idea
however it has been stated by arnox over and over posts are to not be removed
actually idio the one who didn't want anyone deleting posts is fucking Arnox as that's what he threatened to demod edify over and he made an entire thread addressing it when you did it now we've had 2 mods do it with no one addressing it both Zek and now Hansen have fucking done it
this is even more double standards and Arnox is very clearly not informing his mods how HE WANTS THE PLACE RUN EVEN
here's some shit you guys should look over
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=400.0
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=3529.0
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=266.0
you're starting to be ridiculous Idio I understand you might have missed some of this but most every thread someone has made complaining there has been precedent for them complaining I understand you don't read everything on here and I don't expect you too but maybe you should start researching how this place is being run and see the very clear hypocrisy and double standards going on here
you are showing even more reasons you should be demoted
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=400.0
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=3529.0
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=266.0
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http://totse.free-forum.net/
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http://totse.free-forum.net/
Don't go about it that way, fang. All that is is instant personal gratification/satisfaction, and very rarely produces anything at all constructive. Real progress is like the waves of the sea gradually but relentlessly washing away on the face of the rocks. No sense throwing away your account while there still exists even a slim chance for real change.
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Yeah posts like that I will remove. It sucks to be banned for joking around and not even doing anything malicious, but when it comes to serious PI like that I'm not going to let it sit there while I try to figure out what to do with it. Was PMing him about it, and if he hadn't continued to post it as I considered the matter he never would have been warned.
I'm starting to feel that the verification process is an impractical way of handling PI.
no shit what gave you that idea
however it has been stated by arnox over and over posts are to not be removed
actually idio the one who didn't want anyone deleting posts is fucking Arnox as that's what he threatened to demod edify over and he made an entire thread addressing it when you did it now we've had 2 mods do it with no one addressing it both Zek and now Hansen have fucking done it
this is even more double standards and Arnox is very clearly not informing his mods how HE WANTS THE PLACE RUN EVEN
here's some shit you guys should look over
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=400.0
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=3529.0
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=266.0
you're starting to be ridiculous Idio I understand you might have missed some of this but most every thread someone has made complaining there has been precedent for them complaining I understand you don't read everything on here and I don't expect you too but maybe you should start researching how this place is being run and see the very clear hypocrisy and double standards going on here
you are showing even more reasons you should be demoted
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=400.0
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=3529.0
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=266.0
How would you like to see PI handled? This goes for everyone. Let's talk about this stuff.
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The point of talking things out has long been crossed by the Admin not talking anything out, instead ignoring literally every single complaint about his staff. His half ass attempts at fresh starts can fuck right off. That nigger didn't even apologize for being a liar.
Fuck this shit.
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You, as a member of the staff, should not even be asking a question like that of the general userbase. It's something you should already know the answer to. Pandering to it, entertaining it and inviting it only encourages it.
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How would you like to see PI handled? This goes for everyone. Let's talk about this stuff.
it has been talked about and it has nothing to do with the fact that you keep ignoring what was decided and are deleting posts that you aren't supposed to you aren't even following the shit arnox the admin you keep saying is great said to do
fuck off with that we can talk about it you should be demodded period full stop
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Zek doesn't know what to do. Ban Risir but edit Lanny (http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4730.msg61412;topicseen#msg61412) for the same 'offence'. Just makes it up as he goes along. I wonder what excuses Arnox will make for him. Speaking of making excuses, first things first...
Blatant thread derailment is different from normal conversation flow.
Please read the OP of this thread for clarification:
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=3529.0
Off-topic posting is NOT against the rules UNLESS it's blatant derailing such as the following.
"Have you guys ever gone snowboarding before?"
"I like whipped cream LOL."
This however is normal conversation flow.
"I really like pizza."
"Especially ones with pepperoni toppings."
"I think pepperoni's pretty gross..."
It's not blatant derailing because it took you more than one irrelevant, low content, post to derail a thread? I'll remember that for future reference. :facepalm:
That being the case, why was Fang' banned for 'derailing' Equanimity's shitty H&S troll thread? (http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4634.msg59998#msg59998) Even though every post Fang' made referred to something that was either said in that thread, or the thread itself? In reality were tears shed because his posts may have been relevant, but they weren't parlour enough?
In contrast:
due to physicalicol problems
every1 be super nice to him ok?
physicalicol
Blatant derailing: First post after OP. Immediate derailment; may as well have typed 'Lrn2spl'. Too much of a passive-agressive prick to do that so just quoted instead.
Medical necessity, not physiological necessity. I mean that's their verbiage, in my experience.
What treatments and medications would help people cope with this? Could zombify them with hardcore drugs, but why would you? They can lead full lives without that junk, so long's they get the HRT and surgeries they need.
there is not a medical need they body will continue to function perfectly healthy perhaps even more healthy than a body on HRT and surgeries
there are a lot of people that express improvements simply through counseling there isn't a 100% perfect treatment for any mental health illness at all
I'm kinda bored of this now.
way to make an entirely unnecessary spam post in a thread that has remained on topic :tup:
I do what I can.
Wait no:
(http://i.imgur.com/oLg6P6V.gif)
Blatant derailing: That's nice. Just as whipped cream has nothing to do with snowboarding, so Zek's tiredness has nothing to do with the topic at hand. He then doesn't even deny he's derailing; responds with sarcasm. Follows that up with a derailing shitpost.
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Zek (And I've barely, barely scratched the surface) makes derailing posts that follow on from nothing, just as your "blatant derailing" example shows, because he knows that you will blindly excuse double standards as he's one of your 'very carefully picked' and 'professional' staff members who is 'nice'. Contrary to what you may claim, that's all that really registers on your radar. And why should he think otherwise? You gormlessly treat his 'cats n' hugs forum' suggestion seriously whereas everyone else shat on the obvious wind-up, including Fang' who got the boot for his harshness, thereby proving to Equazek that you're a real Autisticus Maximus obsessed with 'parlour' behaviour.
... in you're own time, Arnox.
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maybe we can bring up solid issues in enough threads they'll just ignore the whole forum since he can't address real concerns
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Zok first quit certain boards, then secluded himself to just one board, then quit his own site altogether. Nobody can beat that.
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Blatant thread derailment is different from normal conversation flow.
Please read the OP of this thread for clarification:
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=3529.0
Off-topic posting is NOT against the rules UNLESS it's blatant derailing such as the following.
"Have you guys ever gone snowboarding before?"
"I like whipped cream LOL."
This however is normal conversation flow.
"I really like pizza."
"Especially ones with pepperoni toppings."
"I think pepperoni's pretty gross..."
It's not blatant derailing because it took you more than one irrelevant, low content, post to derail a thread? I'll remember that for future reference. :facepalm:
maybe we can bring up solid issues in enough threads they'll just ignore the whole forum since he can't address real concerns
Well... as Arnox has personally demonstrated, it seems that as long as thread derailment appears like "normal conversation flow", i.e. it's done over a few posts rather than one, then theoretically every single thread that's created on this site could legitimately "flow" into a discussion about Arnox's administrative fuck-ups, regardless of the OP's content.
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Hey SotB, what do you think of this?
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4731.msg61452;topicseen#msg61452
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at least fangle's forum isn't run by a mental tranny, so he has that going for him
(http://asset-a.soup.io/asset/1529/1386_ab14.gif)
at least fangle's forum isn't run by a mental tranny, so he has that going for him
I was not referring to you, funnily enough
But Zek tries to make the thread about him, i.e. nothing to do with the topic at hand. Maybe this is 'natural flow'; any mention of a "mental tranny" will, uhh, naturally flow into a conversation about Zek.
Maybe I'll just keep bumping this thread with Zek's derailing attention-seeking posts.