The Sanctuary
Site Discussion => News of the Sanctuary => Topic started by: Arnox on November 04, 2014, 11:56:52 pm
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There's been a whole lot of changes I've instituted recently so I'm going to go through every one of them in detail so you guys know completely what's going on. So, first things first.
A. The new rules (http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=3.0) are now in effect. Staff members will now moderate based on these rules instead of the old ones.
B. NIMF has undergone metamorphosis into a sort of Chaos Realm for the site. It is STRONGLY RECOMMENDED that you set up your profile to ignore this board as anyone will now be able to post threads in it and NOT be infracted at all for doing any of the following in this forum:
- Posting incredibly long posts without any substantial content.
- Blatantly derailing a thread and going completely against the conversation flow or derailing with the purpose of harassing another user.
- Bumping a thread that is old without anything to add or contribute.
- Completely illegible or incoherent posts or threads.
Flooding may also be added to the list of exceptions but if so, topics there will get removed periodically about every week.
To ignore this board:
1. Go to Profile > Summary. Then Modify Profile > Ignore Boards Options
2. Then check the NIMF box and then hit "Change profile."
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!
C. Multi-quoting has been added. To do so, simply select "Add Multi Quote" to something you would like to quote and then when you're all done, hit the Reply button. The quotes will then show up.
D. And finally, five smilies have also been added. They are as follows.
:nuke: :picard: :ninja: :umad: :lapastada:
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And that's about it! Remember to like, comment, and subscribe!
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I am in huge favor of the picard and lapastada smileys. The umad one should have been fucking buried in the dump where it belongs.
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The umad one should have been fucking buried in the dump where it belongs.
*shrugs* It was one of the more requested smilies.
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I am in huge favor of the picard and lapastada smileys. The umad one should have been fucking buried in the dump where it belongs.
:umad:
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Great... the Picard, LaPasta and UMAD smilies. Just what we needed. Now I really do believe Arnox was never on Zoklet.
:Picard:
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sweet, now maybe we can get shit done
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:umad:
(http://i.imgur.com/SvKhUBF.gif)
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(http://i.imgur.com/SvKhUBF.gif)
request for new smiley to be added immediately
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I am in huge favor of the picard and lapastada smileys. The umad one should have been fucking buried in the dump where it belongs.
:umad:
Fuck you beat me to it!
Also how many revisions of the site have you done now? It seems like every month we go through a rule change/random transition like this.
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Though I don't understand the disproportionate consequence for posting bestiality, I honestly can't see this rule hurting the site. Also, we should amend these to accommodate bling bling's posting gimmick. I'm glad to see multiquote, the rest isn't that important to me.
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Thanks Arnox.
Now that that's all set, let's get back to it.
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Also how many revisions of the site have you done now? It seems like every month we go through a rule change/random transition like this.
Actually, I don't think we've ever instituted as huge of a change to the site as this.
Everything else has just been changes and additions here and there.
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Also how many revisions of the site have you done now? It seems like every month we go through a rule change/random transition like this.
Actually, I don't think we've ever instituted as huge of a change to the site as this.
Everything else has just been changes and additions here and there.
#ChangeIsLoveChangeIsLife
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hey major update, arnox sucks dicks every all day err day!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_SG2sWIdaQ
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What, no kitties? ;(
Good update otherwise :tup:
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This is my favorite smiley. I'm shocked that we don't have it. I call it Snoopy.
(http://www.narusaku.com/public/style_emoticons/default/hm.png)
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This is my favorite smiley. I'm shocked that we don't have it. I call it Snoopy.
(http://www.narusaku.com/public/style_emoticons/default/hm.png)
We got his slightly physically handicapped brother, though.
:suspect:
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Very handicapped
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This is my favorite smiley. I'm shocked that we don't have it. I call it Snoopy.
(http://www.narusaku.com/public/style_emoticons/default/hm.png)
Oh WTH. Added.
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Desperate attempt to get at least some users on your site. LOL.
Fuck your dumb smileys. Stop being a lying, manipulating idiot. That would be a major update.
:picard: :lapastada: :umad: :frown:
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This is my favorite smiley. I'm shocked that we don't have it. I call it Snoopy.
(http://www.narusaku.com/public/style_emoticons/default/hm.png)
Oh WTH. Added.
Oh god I wish we had thanks!
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Why don't we have thanks? :frown:
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Need a pile of shit...like android phones have
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Why don't we have thanks? :frown:
Because I couldn't find a version that doesn't count the total number of Thanks a person has.
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Why don't we have thanks? :frown:
Because I couldn't find a version that doesn't count the total number of Thanks a person has.
Why would you want that the whole reason for thanks is to show what ava awesome poster you are...
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Why would you want that the whole reason for thanks is to show what ava awesome poster you are...
Because it leads to reputation spam and circle jerking.
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Because I couldn't find a version that doesn't count the total number of Thanks a person has.
He's concerned that Bling will get more thanks than him.
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things could be worse, we could have lost smilies :lapastada:
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Everyone loves a good circle jerk :P
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Who needs a thanks button when they got a ban button, right?
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you are a living facepalm arnox
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you are a living facepalm arnox
lol this
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Testing.
:lapastada:
:umad:
:picard:
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someone seriously needs to fix the umad smiley text
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someone seriously needs to fix the umad smiley text
Done.
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someone seriously needs to fix the umad smiley text
Done.
Nice! :lapastada:
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1. Go to Profile > Summary. Then Modify Profile > Ignore Boards Options
2. Then check the NIMF box and then hit "Change profile."
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!
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Bye.
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How about some better choices of themes? This dark with the blue moderator text kills my eyes. I can't actually read their names without highlighting them. The alternatives look like a second grader picked them out of the list of shit nobody else wanted to use.
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How about some better choices of themes? This dark with the blue moderator text kills my eyes. I can't actually read their names without highlighting them. The alternatives look like a second grader picked them out of the list of shit nobody else wanted to use.
Aye, that is particularly nasty unless I tilt my screen to reduce the glare from their names.
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How about some better choices of themes? This dark with the blue moderator text kills my eyes. I can't actually read their names without highlighting them. The alternatives look like a second grader picked them out of the list of shit nobody else wanted to use.
Eh, I'll see what I can do. Putting in a theme though with SMF is kind of a pain though once you set everything up and put in some mods. With every theme, settings need to be changed and some mods need to be reinstalled.
If you'd like, you can browse a list of themes for the forum here (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?action=search;version=80) and then when you find one, post a thread in H&S and see if everyone likes it as well.
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If you'd like, you can browse a list of themes for the forum here (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?action=search;version=80) and then when you find one, post a thread in H&S and see if everyone likes it as well.
Done. Picked out a couple simpler looking themes, one light, one dark.
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The blue/white theme is loads better than the default black.
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Why would you want that the whole reason for thanks is to show what ava awesome poster you are...
Because it leads to reputation spam and circle jerking.
Do it.
(http://www.sobernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/benStillerDoIt.jpg)
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Finally got my :picard:
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Why would you want that the whole reason for thanks is to show what ava awesome poster you are...
Because it leads to reputation spam and circle jerking.
That was never a significant issue on Zoklet, the site from which the vast bulk of the userbase is derived.
Do you think its reasonable to suspect the real reason you don't want a thanks feature, particularly one with a total thanks count, is because of the possible embarrassment of the most thanked people on here being the ones who routinely call you [insert insult involving you being involved in moronism/mormonism/arousal by transsexuals/dragonfaggotry/lying to the userbase/etc...] and generally object to, and point out the flaws in, the way this place is run?
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Why would you want that the whole reason for thanks is to show what ava awesome poster you are...
Because it leads to reputation spam and circle jerking.
That was never a significant issue on Zoklet, the site from which the vast bulk of the userbase is derived.
Do you think its reasonable to suspect the real reason you don't want a thanks feature, particularly one with a total thanks count, is because of the possible embarrassment of the most thanked people on here being the ones who routinely call you [insert insult involving you being involved in moronism/mormonism/arousal by transsexuals/dragonfaggotry/lying to the userbase/etc...] and generally object to, and point out the flaws in, the way this place is run?
bingo bango bongo you've hit the nail on the head
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[insert insult involving you being involved in moronism/mormonism/arousal by transsexuals/dragonfaggotry/lying to the userbase/etc...]
This Choose-You-Own-Insult adventure, with 27 possible endings, has been brought to you by SotB
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[insert insult involving you being involved in moronism/mormonism/arousal by transsexuals/dragonfaggotry/lying to the userbase/etc...]
This Choose-You-Own-Insult adventure, with 27 possible endings, has been brought to you by SotB
A mere shadow of your teflon-coated shitposts, by I appreciate your acknowledgement.
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SotB suffers from autism. :picard:
:picard:
:picard: :picard:
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Why would you want that the whole reason for thanks is to show what ava awesome poster you are...
Because it leads to reputation spam and circle jerking.
That was never a significant issue on Zoklet, the site from which the vast bulk of the userbase is derived.
Do you think its reasonable to suspect the real reason you don't want a thanks feature, particularly one with a total thanks count, is because of the possible embarrassment of the most thanked people on here being the ones who routinely call you [insert insult involving you being involved in moronism/mormonism/arousal by transsexuals/dragonfaggotry/lying to the userbase/etc...] and generally object to, and point out the flaws in, the way this place is run?
No?
Fine, let's explore the (many) other reasons then.
What it leads to is friends upvoting each other just because they're friends, funny posts getting thanked instead of the more smart and thoughtful posts, posts getting upvoted because it tells people what they want to hear instead of what they should be hearing, and posts deserving of upvotes not getting them simply because they're on the last page of posts and some users TL;DRing all posts past the first or second pages. Not to mention the small amounts of drama it causes when someone gets a lot of or all the upvotes and another doesn't, no matter how intelligent or well they conduct themselves simply because of something that happened in the past and people are holding a grudge...
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Why would you want that the whole reason for thanks is to show what ava awesome poster you are...
Because it leads to reputation spam and circle jerking.
That was never a significant issue on Zoklet, the site from which the vast bulk of the userbase is derived.
Do you think its reasonable to suspect the real reason you don't want a thanks feature, particularly one with a total thanks count, is because of the possible embarrassment of the most thanked people on here being the ones who routinely call you [insert insult involving you being involved in moronism/mormonism/arousal by transsexuals/dragonfaggotry/lying to the userbase/etc...] and generally object to, and point out the flaws in, the way this place is run?
No?
Fine, let's explore the (many) other reasons then.
What it leads to is friends upvoting each other just because they're friends, funny posts getting thanked instead of the more smart and thoughtful posts, posts getting upvoted because it tells people what they want to hear instead of what they should be hearing, and posts deserving of upvotes not getting them simply because they're on the last page of posts and some users TL;DRing all posts past the first or second pages. Not to mention the small amounts of drama it causes when someone gets a lot of or all the upvotes and another doesn't, no matter how intelligent or well they conduct themselves simply because of something that happened in the past and people are holding a grudge...
Again, unless I missed something, none of that was a signifcant issue on Zoklet.
I thought the system was gimmicky but I'm not going to lie and say it caused problems.
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I thought the system was gimmicky but I'm not going to lie and say it caused problems.
Well, of course it's not going to directly cause problems but it contributes toward a bad posting environment.
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I thought the system was gimmicky but I'm not going to lie and say it caused problems.
Well, of course it's not going to directly cause problems but it contributes toward a bad posting environment.
With specific reference to this userbase upon what evidence do you base that statement?
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With specific reference to this userbase upon what evidence do you base that statement?
Pretty much every forum with a rep system?
And if we're going to play that card, where's your evidence that the Thanks system on Zoklet DIDN'T contribute toward a bad posting environment?
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With specific reference to this userbase upon what evidence do you base that statement?
Pretty much every forum with a rep system?
Your response here is a distraction, not an answer to my question.
Well, of course it's not going to directly cause problems but it contributes toward a bad posting environment.
And if we're going to play that card, where's your evidence that the Thanks system on Zoklet DIDN'T contribute toward a bad posting environment?
There is no "card" Arnox. It's your claim; the burden of proof is not on me. The only way you can substantiate what you've said is by comparison, i.e. were there any quantitative differences in userbase behaviour before and after the thanks system was implemented on Zoklet, the site from which this userbase is derived.
If you can't do that just say so.
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There is no "card" Arnox. It's your claim; the burden of proof is not on me.
Actually, yes it is, because I'm not the one who wants a rep system. And in any case, your question is utterly ridiculous, asking for a complete psychosocial breakdown of the effects of the Thanks system. Nobody has that.
I've been on a lot of sites with rep systems again and the only ones I found to be any good at all were the ones where they didn't count the total number of thanks or thumbs or whatever one has in total on the site.
Now, can I prove that completely? No. Just as you cannot prove completely that a Thanks system doesn't impact the community for the worse.
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I thought the system was gimmicky but I'm not going to lie and say it caused problems.
There is no "card" Arnox. It's your claim; the burden of proof is not on me.
Actually, yes it is, because I'm not the one who wants a rep system.
Oh, really. Did my ringing endorsement of the system give you that impression?
You're in danger of relapsing into your mendacious ways, Arnox. You can't refute a burden of proof with a false premise; offering an opinion and expressing a desire or "wants" is not the same thing.
And in any case, your question is utterly ridiculous, asking for a complete psychosocial breakdown of the effects of the Thanks system. Nobody has that.
I've been on a lot of sites with rep systems again and the only ones I found to be any good at all were the ones where they didn't count the total number of thanks or thumbs or whatever one has in total on the site.
Now, can I prove that completely? No. Just as you cannot prove completely that a Thanks system doesn't impact the community for the worse.
"...complete psychosocial breakdown..."? Pfft... in other words you weren't on Zoklet so have no valid opinion on the effects, if any, the thanks system had on the general posting habits of the Zoklet userbase. Unlike the people who were on Zoklet and say they noticed no detrimental effect that could specifically be linked back to the thanks system. If it was so bloody terrible Zok would have removed it like he did with the much-abused rep' system; but he didn't. Besides, if it clearly did go to shit you could just switch the damned thing off and tell me I'm an idiot.
This appears to be more about a fearful and easily-bruised ego rather than any doubt over a thanks system.
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I thought the system was gimmicky but I'm not going to lie and say it caused problems.
There is no "card" Arnox. It's your claim; the burden of proof is not on me.
Actually, yes it is, because I'm not the one who wants a rep system.
Oh, really. Did my ringing endorsement of the system give you that impression?
You're in danger of relapsing into your mendacious ways, Arnox. You can't refute a burden of proof with a false premise; offering an opinion and expressing a desire or "wants" is not the same thing.
And in any case, your question is utterly ridiculous, asking for a complete psychosocial breakdown of the effects of the Thanks system. Nobody has that.
I've been on a lot of sites with rep systems again and the only ones I found to be any good at all were the ones where they didn't count the total number of thanks or thumbs or whatever one has in total on the site.
Now, can I prove that completely? No. Just as you cannot prove completely that a Thanks system doesn't impact the community for the worse.
"...complete psychosocial breakdown..."? Pfft... in other words you weren't on Zoklet so have no valid opinion on the effects, if any, the thanks system had on the general posting habits of the Zoklet userbase. Unlike the people who were on Zoklet and say they noticed no detrimental effect that could specifically be linked back to the thanks system. If it was so bloody terrible Zok would have removed it like he did with the much-abused rep' system; but he didn't. Besides, if it clearly did go to shit you could just switch the damned thing off and tell me I'm an idiot.
This appears to be more about a fearful and easily-bruised ego rather than any doubt over a thanks system.
Oh I completely forgot to say. Totse2 had a rep system. And then we took out because it led to (surprise surprise) circle-jerking and rep abuse. Ask Spectre about it if you like.
And actually, the general consensus (even from you I think) seems to be that Zoklet was terrible and poorly managed and run. Are you saying now that Zok had the right idea?
And even FURTHER, others here DID NOT want it at all. Admittedly, it was less than the people who did but I already tried finding a Thanks system for us and I couldn't so it's not like I didn't try.
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yet no thanks button
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Totse2's rep system did fail, I will say that. But we had the option for negative rep. People only really complained when they were undeservedly spammed with neg rep, and then I had to go fix it.
As for a system with only positive "rep," or thanks, I'm not sure many people would complain. The upside is it would "encourage" people to post in a manner that is consistent with the majority of the userbase.
After thinking about it, there aren't many downsides. I didn't post a whole lot on Zoklet, but I ended there with 11 likes I think. I didn't give a hoot because I went there to post, not get a merit badge. For those who get off on it, so be it.
We could just try it. If it fails, then remove it.
Sometimes we gotta do things we don't want to do, just to keep our customers happy.
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And actually, the general consensus (even from you I think) seems to be that Zoklet was terrible and poorly managed and run. Are you saying now that Zok had the right idea?
And even FURTHER, others here DID NOT want it at all. Admittedly, it was less than the people who did but I already tried finding a Thanks system for us and I couldn't so it's not like I didn't try.
zoklet sucked but this place is much worse
if you haven't noticed, every fucking social media type application has an "active" component to it, it necessitates dedication and fosters contributions. You shouldn't need to be fucking told this. Herp derp "wtf is twitter, facebook, reddit fucking everything?" Thats like Mark Zuckerberg taking off facebook "likes" because people display bias with how they distribute their likes. The absolute dumbest fucking argument I've ever heard against a rep system.
If you're worried about it becoming a "circle jerk" that hurts feelings or something gay. There is absolutely no harm. This place is dying so fucking fast it's incredible. Make a thread specific rep system like reddit, that way nobodys feelings get hurt.
It really doesn't seem like you have any idea what you're doing
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Having a Thanks/Rep system will be the ultimate savior for this BBS.
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And actually, the general consensus (even from you I think) seems to be that Zoklet was terrible and poorly managed and run. Are you saying now that Zok had the right idea?
And even FURTHER, others here DID NOT want it at all. Admittedly, it was less than the people who did but I already tried finding a Thanks system for us and I couldn't so it's not like I didn't try.
zoklet sucked but this place is much worse
if you haven't noticed, every fucking social media type application has an "active" component to it, it necessitates dedication and fosters contributions. You shouldn't need to be fucking told this. Herp derp "wtf is twitter, facebook, reddit fucking everything?" Thats like Mark Zuckerberg taking off facebook "likes" because people display bias with how they distribute their likes. The absolute dumbest fucking argument I've ever heard against a rep system.
If you're worried about it becoming a "circle jerk" that hurts feelings or something gay. There is absolutely no harm. This place is dying so fucking fast it's incredible. Make a thread specific rep system like reddit, that way nobodys feelings get hurt.
It really doesn't seem like you have any idea what you're doing
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That's because... THEY DO NOT COUNT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LIKES/UPVOTES/WHATEVER. Which was the system I was LOOKING FOR. And even the ones that do, they are not on full display with every single post they make which YES, makes a difference as it takes away incentive to rep spam for whatever reason.
And Twitter BARELY has a rep system. Closest thing is favorites but it doesn't matter because what people REALLY want on Twitter are FOLLOWERS obviously. User subscriptions.
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And actually, the general consensus (even from you I think) seems to be that Zoklet was terrible and poorly managed and run. Are you saying now that Zok had the right idea?
And even FURTHER, others here DID NOT want it at all. Admittedly, it was less than the people who did but I already tried finding a Thanks system for us and I couldn't so it's not like I didn't try.
zoklet sucked but this place is much worse
if you haven't noticed, every fucking social media type application has an "active" component to it, it necessitates dedication and fosters contributions. You shouldn't need to be fucking told this. Herp derp "wtf is twitter, facebook, reddit fucking everything?" Thats like Mark Zuckerberg taking off facebook "likes" because people display bias with how they distribute their likes. The absolute dumbest fucking argument I've ever heard against a rep system.
If you're worried about it becoming a "circle jerk" that hurts feelings or something gay. There is absolutely no harm. This place is dying so fucking fast it's incredible. Make a thread specific rep system like reddit, that way nobodys feelings get hurt.
It really doesn't seem like you have any idea what you're doing
:facepalm:
That's because... THEY DO NOT COUNT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LIKES/UPVOTES/WHATEVER. Which was the system I was LOOKING FOR. And even the ones that do, they are not on full display with every single post they make which YES, makes a difference as it takes away incentive to rep spam for whatever reason.
And Twitter BARELY has a rep system. Closest thing is favorites but it doesn't matter because what people REALLY want on Twitter are FOLLOWERS obviously. User subscriptions.
Look how fucking dumb and furious you are, you dragon idolizing faggot.
Why do you want a system that doesn't count total numbers? Who gives a fuck about shit like that? If you have an in thread rep system that extrapolates onto the users account big fucking deal, it really seems like you just don't want users you don't like getting reps because it's such an obvious thing to have in the year of our lord, 2014, it's either a deficiency in your intelligence of a personal vendetta to not have it.
All this website is is a fucking forum. So, people just post because they like to post? No incentive to do so. Any information you need you can find with google, no point in bringing anything from google here because theres absolutely no incentive to do so and since registration is closed, anyone who accidentally finds this site won't be able to post. Great idea, kid, really seems like you know what you're doing, a plethora of users on september 2nd and barely any since after seeing how shitty you made this place.
"wtf is retweeting?"
There is absolutely no reason to not have a rep system. Any rep system is better than none. It's one of those silly, fancy things we use on the internet in the 21st century. Ideally an in thread system is best, modeled after reddit. Jesus Christ, I shouldn't have to tell you this, how did you happen to become the Admin of this website anyway? Did you just make this place to jerk yourself off? Is that why when you register you have to type your name in (assuming anyone can/would/will ever register again)?
Seriously, there has to be someone better suited for this than you you'd trust to hand over the reins to. It's abundantly clear absolutely no one has any faith in you. Not trying to be insulting but it really doesn't seem like you're cut out for it.
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Did you seriously just imply that retweeting is a rep system?
:facepalm:
Seriously, there has to be someone better suited for this than you you'd trust to hand over the reins to.
You want 'em? I'll give 'em to you for a bargain deal. And then you can be the one people will call faggot and curse because you may have moved their precious thread over to another sub-forum. Then again, I don't think I'd wish this fate upon my worst enemy.
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All this website is is a fucking forum. So, people just post because they like to post? No incentive to do so.
as opposed to building numbers in the world's gayest popularity contest?
ironic that you should call someone else a faggot in the same breath as saying the site should be more like popular social media networks.
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Did you seriously just imply that retweeting is a rep system?
:facepalm:
Seriously, there has to be someone better suited for this than you you'd trust to hand over the reins to.
You want 'em? I'll give 'em to you for a bargain deal. And then you can be the one people will call faggot and curse because you may have moved their precious thread over to another sub-forum. Then again, I don't think I'd wish this fate upon my worst enemy.
Do you not see the numbers at the bottom of the tweet? Do you not see it in users profiles? Do you even herp when you derp? Is that really all you have to say "well y dont u take over then and tweeting is not a rep system." Thanks for proving my point, you seem like a defensive and scolded very young child.
You're clearly not suited for this, I'd love to take the website off your hands, as I'm sure any number of people would when blessed with a situation such as yours; a barren forum reinvigorated with a huge userbase from a similar site you'd never been a part of, based off another site you'd never been a part of. Really, it was an opportunity for you to lose, people were optimistic and you did nothing but disappoint them.
Pretty sure at this point, users would be optimistic for anyone other than you to take the helm and try to pull back hard. Are you offering the site to anyone who'll cover the upkeep fees? I'm sure there are users who'd be more than willing to jump at that opportunity and have faith they wouldn't squander and destroy it like you have. Really, the sooner the better. Ever since September 2nd this place has hemorrhaged users left and right after seeing what direction you were taking it in. I don't know as much as most people here but I can tell the vast VAST majority of users here are unhappy with just about everything you've done
What does that tell you? Is this about you just having the luxury of "my vewwy own website" or is it about building upon a community and bringing it into a new era before it crumbles to dust? The "my vewwy own website" option is clearly the route you're taking and is ruining this place. What's even the point of having a fucking website if you can't register? Did you really think that through?
Really, seriously, give up the website for its own good. Let someone else be called a faggot on the internet if that bothers you so much, it was pretty common on zoklet. The truth is the only way for this place to not die any faster than it is already (extremely rapidly) is to hand it over to someone else. Preferably someone with some actual knowledge of totse/zoklet since there were like 6 people and 5 posts here before zoklet came.
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All this website is is a fucking forum. So, people just post because they like to post? No incentive to do so. Any information you need you can find with google, no point in bringing anything from google here because theres absolutely no incentive to do so and since registration is closed, anyone who accidentally finds this site won't be able to post. Great idea, kid, really seems like you know what you're doing, a plethora of users on september 2nd and barely any since after seeing how shitty you made this place.
There is absolutely no reason to not have a rep system. Any rep system is better than none. It's one of those silly, fancy things we use on the internet in the 21st century. Ideally an in thread system is best, modeled after reddit. Jesus Christ, I shouldn't have to tell you this, how did you happen to become the Admin of this website anyway? Did you just make this place to jerk yourself off? Is that why when you register you have to type your name in (assuming anyone can/would/will ever register again)?
Word. :tup:
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All this website is is a fucking forum. So, people just post because they like to post? No incentive to do so.
as opposed to building numbers in the world's gayest popularity contest?
ironic that you should call someone else a faggot in the same breath as saying the site should be more like popular social media networks.
I don't think you know what irony means
Also, I think "faggots" congregate to tumblr which I've never been on (other than http://criminalwisdom.tumblr.com/ which has cool shit sometimes) and I don't think there's a rep system there
To not have a "popularity contest" means everything has the same, shitty merit. Meritocracy is important in decent, god fearing societies and especially important on the internet as it's filled with horrible shit a lot of the time. No rep system means everything gets lumped into the same shitty cesspool.
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Thanks is fun, and as Idio said with no negative rep it shouldn't cause problems. Never did any harm on Zoklet.
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Thanks is fun, and as Idio said with no negative rep it shouldn't cause problems. Never did any harm on Zoklet.
why would negative rep cause problems? Are you going on about feelings getting hurt like Arnox for fucksake? Clearly no one cares about this except you two
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To not have a "popularity contest" means everything has the same, shitty merit. Meritocracy is important in decent, god fearing societies and especially important on the internet as it's filled with horrible shit a lot of the time. No rep system means everything gets lumped into the same shitty cesspool.
if you can't judge posts based on their content rather than a number beside the poster's name, twitter probably caters more to your attention span.
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To not have a "popularity contest" means everything has the same, shitty merit. Meritocracy is important in decent, god fearing societies and especially important on the internet as it's filled with horrible shit a lot of the time. No rep system means everything gets lumped into the same shitty cesspool.
if you can't judge posts based on their content rather than a number beside the poster's name, twitter probably caters more to your attention span.
I think you're purposely misrepresenting the issue because you're weird or possibly stupid.
Do you think someone wants to sift through a ton of threads, reading every word and looking for the best parts, or do they want "tried and tested" ones brought to their attention first. It's good for new users (assuming there is a distant future where there might be one) to see who's been established vs who's a mud farming scammer or whatever, was necessary in BI and is necessary on bitcointalk.org.
Seriously, if the only argument is "circlejerk of hurt feelings" then this website is so fucking disgracefully doomed it's sickening to be associated with it at all
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Seriously, if the only argument is "circlejerk of hurt feelings" then this website is so fucking disgracefully doomed it's sickening to be associated with it at all
this
mormons ruin everything
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All this website is is a fucking forum. So, people just post because they like to post? No incentive to do so. Any information you need you can find with google, no point in bringing anything from google here because theres absolutely no incentive to do so and since registration is closed, anyone who accidentally finds this site won't be able to post. Great idea, kid, really seems like you know what you're doing, a plethora of users on september 2nd and barely any since after seeing how shitty you made this place.
There is absolutely no reason to not have a rep system. Any rep system is better than none. It's one of those silly, fancy things we use on the internet in the 21st century. Ideally an in thread system is best, modeled after reddit. Jesus Christ, I shouldn't have to tell you this, how did you happen to become the Admin of this website anyway? Did you just make this place to jerk yourself off? Is that why when you register you have to type your name in (assuming anyone can/would/will ever register again)?
Word. :tup:
Never thought I'd say this but I *gulp* agree with RisiR 0_o
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Stop talking about me like a fucking teenage boygroup fangirl you faggot.
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why would negative rep cause problems? Are you going on about feelings getting hurt like Arnox for fucksake? Clearly no one cares about this except you two
There's enough negativity on this forum without including a button for it.
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why would negative rep cause problems? Are you going on about feelings getting hurt like Arnox for fucksake? Clearly no one cares about this except you two
There's enough negativity on this forum without including a button for it.
*sarcastically* Nuuuuuuuuuuh
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Seriously, there has to be someone better suited for this than you you'd trust to hand over the reins to.
You want 'em? I'll give 'em to you for a bargain deal. And then you can be the one people will call faggot and curse because you may have moved their precious thread over to another sub-forum. Then again, I don't think I'd wish this fate upon my worst enemy.
Can this happen, please?
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Do you not see the numbers at the bottom of the tweet? Do you not see it in users profiles? Do you even herp when you derp? Is that really all you have to say "well y dont u take over then and tweeting is not a rep system." Thanks for proving my point, you seem like a defensive and scolded very young child.
You're clearly not suited for this, I'd love to take the website off your hands, as I'm sure any number of people would when blessed with a situation such as yours; a barren forum reinvigorated with a huge userbase from a similar site you'd never been a part of, based off another site you'd never been a part of. Really, it was an opportunity for you to lose, people were optimistic and you did nothing but disappoint them.
Oh, so if it's got a number, it's a rep system. I guess post count is a rep system too.
And who the HELL are you that I should just hand this site over to? If this site is so bad, why are you still posting here?
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Don't be retarded, sell him the site.
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This like zoklet in a nutshell, only fast forwarded. As Spock would say, "Fascinating...".
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Do you not see the numbers at the bottom of the tweet? Do you not see it in users profiles? Do you even herp when you derp? Is that really all you have to say "well y dont u take over then and tweeting is not a rep system." Thanks for proving my point, you seem like a defensive and scolded very young child.
You're clearly not suited for this, I'd love to take the website off your hands, as I'm sure any number of people would when blessed with a situation such as yours; a barren forum reinvigorated with a huge userbase from a similar site you'd never been a part of, based off another site you'd never been a part of. Really, it was an opportunity for you to lose, people were optimistic and you did nothing but disappoint them.
Oh, so if it's got a number, it's a rep system. I guess post count is a rep system too.
And who the HELL are you that I should just hand this site over to? If this site is so bad, why are you still posting here?
You ignore everything but irrelevant trivialities you think you can "dig" at which is fucking pathetic, especially for the supposed owner of this site.
Like 5 times today you've told people "well if it sucks so bad y r u still here? y don't u go then haha bye" which is beyond fucking juvenile. It's almost like people have an interest in the community and don't like seeing it destroyed, which is especially disheartening when the "admin" of it meets people who genuinely care about its concerns with "haha well leave then I'll make MY site as terrible as I want." The fact that would even be your reaction says a LOT about your competence to run this site.
I'm someone (along with many others) who has a good idea of what it takes to make this site better. The longer you're pulling the strings the worse things are going to get, that much is apparent to anybody. The sooner you realize this and go into damage control by distancing yourself from it the better. You're obviously not enjoying yourself and nothing turned out as you planned. Theres an adversarial relationship between the administration and the users and no incentive to make it any better, no expansion plan etc. instead you decide to close registration for unknown reasons, I assume so people you banned wouldn't come back and make it look like the website actually gets traffic.
The status quo isn't working Arnox. In this forum you've got like 5 "revamp 2.1"s and they're all pretty fucking facepalm worthy. I think its time to admit that you tried and it didn't work out, so "plan B" would be handing it over to another more skillful party to try to bring it out the gutter and capitalize on the vacuum you were bestowed with and squandered.
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Now I have no fucking idea about this buuuuut is it possible to have two admins? If so then why not just say fuck it and do it and why not start putting alot of shit to vote run this bitch like a democracy... it is a community based forum right? I feel like that would cut 80+% of the bullshit completely out
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It'll save headaches and I feel like it could simplify alot of the assanine things people are bitching about/ wanting... people want a thanks button... fuck it put it to a vote... it seems like most everyone has a legitimate want for this site to thrive why not give it a try
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You ignore everything but irrelevant trivialities you think you can "dig" at which is fucking pathetic, especially for the supposed owner of this site.
You know, I don't wanna talk about social media rep systems anymore. The rest of this is much more interesting.
Like 5 times today you've told people "well if it sucks so bad y r u still here? y don't u go then haha bye" which is beyond fucking juvenile. It's almost like people have an interest in the community and don't like seeing it destroyed, which is especially disheartening when the "admin" of it meets people who genuinely care about its concerns with "haha well leave then I'll make MY site as terrible as I want." The fact that would even be your reaction says a LOT about your competence to run this site.
Uh huh. So you care about this community. So what better way to help it than to start harassing the admin, right? That will really solve everything! Let's talk about Arnox's incompetence. Incredibly helpful! That will get the community back together. What a joke...
I'm someone (along with many others) who has a good idea of what it takes to make this site better.
Wow. So informative. That's all I need to know. You're SOMEONE and you know how to make this site BETTER along with a mysterious group of people which you conveniently haven't named but OK. Where's your credentials? Experience? Technical knowledge? Financial situation? What do you plan to do differently in general? You've answered exactly none of those things. The rest of what you said has nothing to do with yourself.
It'll save headaches and I feel like it could simplify alot of the assanine things people are bitching about/ wanting... people want a thanks button... fuck it put it to a vote... it seems like most everyone has a legitimate want for this site to thrive why not give it a try
I DID put it to a vote and I TRIED to implement one that would suit our needs and I couldn't. Furthermore, anyone with admin privileges will be able to look at PM's whenever they want to and further, will have access to everyone's email. It has to be someone that can be trusted.
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Let the people choose majority rules im sure over half if not more of the posters on this site have somewhat known one another for a long while now lets have an admin election... when I said try to run it like a democracy I was being dead ass, cant you create something that is somewhat like an admin. Minus the detrimental stuff like p.I. etc? Theres people on here that seem to know their shit im sure its possible
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Let the people choose majority rules im sure over half if not more of the posters on this site have somewhat known one another for a long while now lets have an admin election... when I said try to run it like a democracy I was being dead ass, cant you create something that is somewhat like an admin. Minus the detrimental stuff like p.I. etc? Theres people on here that seem to know their shit im sure its possible
democracy works poorly enough in real life, let alone in a place with zero accountability. at least with one person in charge we have some semblance of structure...
I'm not sure what you mean by the rest though.
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Admin, Secondary Admin, global mod, mods, retards etc... put everything to a vote, in a place where majority rules the majority will stay happy
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You ignore everything but irrelevant trivialities you think you can "dig" at which is fucking pathetic, especially for the supposed owner of this site.
You know, I don't wanna talk about social media rep systems anymore. The rest of this is much more interesting.
Like 5 times today you've told people "well if it sucks so bad y r u still here? y don't u go then haha bye" which is beyond fucking juvenile. It's almost like people have an interest in the community and don't like seeing it destroyed, which is especially disheartening when the "admin" of it meets people who genuinely care about its concerns with "haha well leave then I'll make MY site as terrible as I want." The fact that would even be your reaction says a LOT about your competence to run this site.
Uh huh. So you care about this community. So what better way to help it than to start harassing the admin, right? That will really solve everything! Let's talk about Arnox's incompetence. Incredibly helpful! That will get the community back together. What a joke...
I'm someone (along with many others) who has a good idea of what it takes to make this site better.
Wow. So informative. That's all I need to know. You're SOMEONE and you know how to make this site BETTER along with a mysterious group of people which you conveniently haven't named but OK. Where's your credentials? Experience? Technical knowledge? Financial situation? What do you plan to do differently in general? You've answered exactly none of those things. The rest of what you said has nothing to do with yourself.
It'll save headaches and I feel like it could simplify alot of the assanine things people are bitching about/ wanting... people want a thanks button... fuck it put it to a vote... it seems like most everyone has a legitimate want for this site to thrive why not give it a try
I DID put it to a vote and I TRIED to implement one that would suit our needs and I couldn't. Furthermore, anyone with admin privileges will be able to look at PM's whenever they want to and further, will have access to everyone's email. It has to be someone that can be trusted.
look Arnox, I was on zoklet, I was on totse from 2005-2009. The two main precursors to this website you were never a part of, then wonder why you seem so out of touch. I know a fair bit of python, modded forums with much more traffic than here before, am relatively well off financially, have a good idea what to do. The totse/zoklet "brand" has undoubtedly been sullied by this website. There is no emphasis on fostering the content (bad ideas/BLTC, BB) that brought everyone to the community in the first place, people are banned for the most trivial of fucking things and moderation is ENTIRELY micromanaged. There's been no advertising on other websites, even with fucking spambots. Nobody is copying and pasting shit they find on other social media platforums/the internet and vice versa because there's no incentive to do so and things are overmodded into oblivion.
The "fringe" quality has been abandoned in the name of one that satiates your desire for control or making a friendship circle or something, I dunno really, but I can tell is that it's in direct conflict with what the community should be about and what everyone wants it to be about. I don't expect you to sell the website to me, although I would likely be willing to pay the fees and whatnot for the opportunity and work steadfastly towards making it better, you should just consider how everything (that I've seen) you've done since sept 2nd has only served to disenfranchise the userbase.
And please, you think anyone gives a fuck about the burner emails and uninteresting PMs of users on a website with a few dozen people on it? Nobody does, why would that be anyones intention, even coming from a "bad ideas" background, I believe anyone would have higher aspirations than that
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Admin, Secondary Admin, global mod, mods, retards etc... put everything to a vote, in a place where majority rules the majority will stay happy
This is a good idea
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And by the rest I mean have a main admin (arnox) and have another person with almost the same privileges just not privy to people's conversations and PI. Basically a pres and vice pres
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And by the rest I mean have a main admin (arnox) and have another person with almost the same privileges just not privy to people's conversations and PI. Basically a pres and vice pres
As much as I agree with the principle of privacy, especially in this day and age, PMs, emails,IP's, logs, etc. is basically what's to be expected on any server and is necessary, if they're to be trusted with this info is really the only qualification.
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Then fuck it Arnox why not start looking for a second in command...obviously not a fucktard and someone who legitimately knows their shit? Keep it in house and see what the community thinks of this idea?
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Chiefchicken best user. :tup:
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So I started a poll to see who would be in favor and who would be against this and asked who they would nominate... Vote away mothafuckas ballots are open all day. P.s. be serious about it this could possibly implement some serious changes
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So I started a poll to see who would be in favor and who would be against this and asked who they would nominate... Vote away mothafuckas ballots are open all day. P.s. be serious about it this could possibly implement some serious changes
I admire your hope.
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I also have hope
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I lurked on zok for what seemed like forever I would definitely like to see this site have as large a user base and variety of topics given it'll take time but why not make this shit as good as possible in the meantime..., given flaming is going to happen im all for that shit but the way people argue on here is ridiculous im trying to come up with a solution that keeps the majority of users happy
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Plus why dont we all push the fuck out of this site? Register with other forums and steals their users FTW! Post about sanc everywhere, spam the shit out of everything we can
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Im sure if we mention ISIS ebola and bomb making enough we can get a quick free advertisement on CNN or some such bullshit can't beat negative media attention people flock
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Plus why dont we all push the fuck out of this site? Register with other forums and steals their users FTW! Post about sanc everywhere, spam the shit out of everything we can
How is advertising "stealing?" Promoting a forum elsewhere is a better idea than closing registration to keep people out! Imagine that novel concept
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^agreed
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Arnox... your the admin what're your thoughts on all this
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Yeah, opening regs does seems like a good idea. Closing them never did zoklet any good. And I'd be down for some forum raiding/astroturfing considering we have so few people actually posting these days.
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Do we have a facebook page?
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I'm pretty sure arnox said regs were back open again in another thread
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He's been lurking this thread for hours, I think he left it open and is gonna sleep on it
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Im kinda interested to see if this goes anywhere
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I'm actively not insulting him. :tup:
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We are proud RiseR haha look at me increasing the peace and shit
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Fucking autocorrect RisiR *
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Dude, I was seriously gonna flip my shit at that. *phew*
Relax.
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Yea never quite tried this site on mobile before tonight and autocorrect is fucking my life up
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I'm pretty sure arnox said regs were back open again in another thread
When I try and register it says it's closed :\
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Yeah, opening regs does seems like a good idea. Closing them never did zoklet any good. And I'd be down for some forum raiding/astroturfing considering we have so few people actually posting these days.
Regs are not going to be closed permanently at all or even for a long time. It's just until I get some serious advertising done.
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Oh I completely forgot to say. Totse2 had a rep system. And then we took out because it led to (surprise surprise) circle-jerking and rep abuse. Ask Spectre about it if you like.
That is a specious analogy; 1) The Zoklet pos' rep system was different from Totse2's pos'/neg' rep system. As Equanimity might say 'people can only be nice to each other' with the Zoklet system. 2) The majority of this userbase is from Zoklet, not Totse2.
And actually, the general consensus (even from you I think) seems to be that Zoklet was terrible and poorly managed and run. Are you saying now that Zok had the right idea?
You seem to have a chronic desire to conflate general and specific situations when it suits you. I'm not sure who you are trying to fool; yourself or me. I would say that statement about Zoklet is generally correct but the thanks system was not specifically part of the problem.
And even FURTHER, others here DID NOT want it at all. Admittedly, it was less than the people who did but I already tried finding a Thanks system for us and I couldn't so it's not like I didn't try.
You've already conceded to the will of the majority on the site logo issue. And I think I've made a reasonable case for why a positive thanks system could at least be trialled.
We could just try it. If it fails, then remove it.
Sometimes we gotta do things we don't want to do, just to keep our customers happy.
Thanks is fun, and as Idio said with no negative rep it shouldn't cause problems. Never did any harm on Zoklet.
Finally, you appear to think the userbase is significantly retarded and/or not to be trusted (for the sake of balance the feeling appears to be mutual), but consider the fact that half of your beloved "council" agree with me.
Are there any other "FURTHER" comments you'd like to make?
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Totse 2 did have a rep system and there were 2 major posters that complained about it YOU and Fangy and you both complained that it was because Hazza was neg rep spamming which lead to more people neg repping you two for crying and then the meth spammers started writing in complaints about their rep that was also getting spammed however for good reason as most of the posts I looked into were gibberish
Honestly most of the people on T2 liked the rep system and were disappointed but didn't care much when it was gone. Easy made the choice to remove to stop the threads of people going WAAAH I'm neg rep spammed most people didn't give a shit and were just mildly disappointed they couldn't use it the way it was intended after it was gone, because a lot of people DID use it as intended hence why I had one of the highest reps on the site for not posting like a faggot and make informational and instructional threads.
this is why I backed the suggested thanks system because it's an active user input to show support to other posters with no "negative" equivalent to hurt peoples feelings who get neg repped
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lolyeah, fangletears
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lolyeah, fangletears
moar leik fanglecry amirite lol
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Good memories. Yeah, fang, hazza, and infinityshock made up the bulk of the abuse/complaints.
I think it could be an okay thing we didn't have the neg option. Neggers be neggin', amirite?
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Good memories. Yeah, fang, hazza, and infinityshock made up the bulk of the abuse/complaints.
I think it could be an okay thing we didn't have the neg option. Neggers be neggin', amirite?
that's true I remember finny having issues too although a lot of his posts he was IMO getting neg repped fairly for just calling people faggots I just remember the S&B thread getting up in arms after awhile about it and it was causing more drama at that point although I think removing it wasn't the right call per say but with no negative option there really won't be any cases of "abuse" of thanks
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Hey Arnox....remember the last time people were debating the whole thanks/rep feature on here? Just a month or so ago, you have several posters (myself included) that stood right by your side, supporting you and your decision not to implement thanks with a lot of well thought out and logical reasons.
Where did all that support go? You think suddenly everyone changed their mind, or do you think maybe it had something to do with just not wanting to support YOU.... no matter what the issue or subject matter is? See, this is what happens when you turn into such an ungrateful, hypocritical, and immature little punk and alienate your userbase. Now you are on your own little island pretty much by yourself, and even when you are right people stay far away from you and your ideas.
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He won't ever get it, daguru...he is a solipsist of the highest degree, as evidenced by his dragon faggotry and his mormonism.
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4274.msg55068#msg55068
You think suddenly everyone changed their mind
He probably does think this
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lolyeah, fangletears
Aw you didn't appreciate our little e-drama :( hazaa helped me keep it going. lots of fun had by all.
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lolyeah, fangletears
Aw you didn't appreciate our little e-drama :( hazaa helped me keep it going. lots of fun had by all.
fanglecry e-drama was best e-drama :(
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lolyeah, fangletears
Aw you didn't appreciate our little e-drama :( hazaa helped me keep it going. lots of fun had by all.
fanglecry e-drama was best e-drama :(
I tell you what it took a decent amount of work to keep up that e-drama. I had to keep making shitty threads for people to respond to since the site was basically dead. Or I'd have to rehash old threads to try to perpetuate the e-drama. It was a neverending task.
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Respect.
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"Site overhaul finished! A herp da derp da diddily dumb!"
What the fucking fuck are you on about, noob cunt? What site overhaul? The site looks exactly the same. You've made up some phony, invisible ideals like "rules" and "promises" which mean fucking nothing to anyone who aren't autistic members who actually give a shit about that.
YOU'VE DONE NOTHING. THIS SITE STILL LOOKS THE SAME. IT'S A PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT. THIS SITE IS A PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT YOU FAT CUNT.
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"Site overhaul finished! A herp da derp da diddily dumb!"
What the fucking fuck are you on about, noob cunt? What site overhaul? The site looks exactly the same. You've made up some phony, invisible ideals like "rules" and "promises" which mean fucking nothing to anyone who aren't autistic members who actually give a shit about that.
YOU'VE DONE NOTHING. THIS SITE STILL LOOKS THE SAME. IT'S A PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT. THIS SITE IS A PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT YOU FAT CUNT.
No shit.
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I am so fucking sick of this shit! Mark Zuckerberg wouldn't make an announcement on Facebook saying, "there's been a site overhaul! We're changing the criteria for how we choose our staff!" or whatever the fuck you went on about in the OP.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND A REAL WEBMASTER NOW? STOP MAKING THESE SHITTY "UPDATE" ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT DON'T ANNOUNCE ANYTHING, YOU FAT WASTE OF FUCKING SPACE.
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Arnox doesn't want to be admin anymore but he feels invested in this website and his mormonism/stupidity won't allow him to give up control of it, even though he knows he should.
If I could have PMed him without being so insulting he probly would have given it to me but whatever, can't help it.
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It's impossible to not insult him. That could be his thing.
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I was on totse2 for a few years. When I found out that Arnox was the one who made a site to basically totse3.com I about fell out of my chair laughing. Arnox was always an outsider even on totse2. He was a moderator for a brief time but he was demodded because he had no idea how to moderate. He posted about anime and video games. He never understood anything about trolling, managing anything, or dealing with fringe topics. He has no business running this site and he needs to hand it over to someone who will actually continue the totse legacy. Totse2 was basically a little circlejerk when I showed up. It stayed mostly a little circlejerk, but I tried to get people to be more open to what the real totse was like, even though I didn't succeed because hardly any of them even know what totse was.
Arnox has no idea what totse was. His idea of totse is discussing anime and video games. He has literally no idea. It's really too bad that totse2 is gone because I wish I could copy paste some arnox shit from there. Oh man.
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I was on totse2 for a few years. When I found out that Arnox was the one who made a site to basically totse3.com I about fell out of my chair laughing. Arnox was always an outsider even on totse2. He was a moderator for a brief time but he was demodded because he had no idea how to moderate. He posted about anime and video games. He never understood anything about trolling, managing anything, or dealing with fringe topics. He has no business running this site and he needs to hand it over to someone who will actually continue the totse legacy. Totse2 was basically a little circlejerk when I showed up. It stayed mostly a little circlejerk, but I tried to get people to be more open to what the real totse was like, even though I didn't succeed because hardly any of them even know what totse was.
Arnox has no idea what totse was. His idea of totse is discussing anime and video games. He has literally no idea. It's really too bad that totse2 is gone because I wish I could copy paste some arnox shit from there. Oh man.
This should surprise absolutely no one
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I was on totse2 for a few years. When I found out that Arnox was the one who made a site to basically totse3.com I about fell out of my chair laughing. Arnox was always an outsider even on totse2. He was a moderator for a brief time but he was demodded because he had no idea how to moderate. He posted about anime and video games. He never understood anything about trolling, managing anything, or dealing with fringe topics. He has no business running this site and he needs to hand it over to someone who will actually continue the totse legacy. Totse2 was basically a little circlejerk when I showed up. It stayed mostly a little circlejerk, but I tried to get people to be more open to what the real totse was like, even though I didn't succeed because hardly any of them even know what totse was.
Arnox has no idea what totse was. His idea of totse is discussing anime and video games. He has literally no idea. It's really too bad that totse2 is gone because I wish I could copy paste some arnox shit from there. Oh man.
This should surprise absolutely no one
Any half intelligent person can figure it out, but I thought it'd be nice to give a first hand account for those that don't know his history.
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Thank you.
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NEVERMIND THIS POST
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Thank you.
you're welcome (if you were responding to me)
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Thank you.
you're welcome (if you were responding to me)
Yes but I want to thank the other people here as well. It's been a true pleasure so far.
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I was on totse2 for a few years. When I found out that Arnox was the one who made a site to basically totse3.com I about fell out of my chair laughing. Arnox was always an outsider even on totse2. He was a moderator for a brief time but he was demodded because he had no idea how to moderate. He posted about anime and video games. He never understood anything about trolling, managing anything, or dealing with fringe topics. He has no business running this site and he needs to hand it over to someone who will actually continue the totse legacy. Totse2 was basically a little circlejerk when I showed up. It stayed mostly a little circlejerk, but I tried to get people to be more open to what the real totse was like, even though I didn't succeed because hardly any of them even know what totse was.
Arnox has no idea what totse was. His idea of totse is discussing anime and video games. He has literally no idea. It's really too bad that totse2 is gone because I wish I could copy paste some arnox shit from there. Oh man.
there's 2 outa three of those totse 2 users you were asking me to back up my story about you with Arnox
also yeah I wish we had access to that there was some hilarious fucking posts on there
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I wish we had access to that there was some hilarious fucking posts on there
*has access* - to the .com, not the .net.
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I was on totse2 for a few years. When I found out that Arnox was the one who made a site to basically totse3.com I about fell out of my chair laughing. Arnox was always an outsider even on totse2. He was a moderator for a brief time but he was demodded because he had no idea how to moderate. He posted about anime and video games. He never understood anything about trolling, managing anything, or dealing with fringe topics. He has no business running this site and he needs to hand it over to someone who will actually continue the totse legacy. Totse2 was basically a little circlejerk when I showed up. It stayed mostly a little circlejerk, but I tried to get people to be more open to what the real totse was like, even though I didn't succeed because hardly any of them even know what totse was.
Arnox has no idea what totse was. His idea of totse is discussing anime and video games. He has literally no idea. It's really too bad that totse2 is gone because I wish I could copy paste some arnox shit from there. Oh man.
there's 2 outa three of those totse 2 users you were asking me to back up my story about you with Arnox
also yeah I wish we had access to that there was some hilarious fucking posts on there
Man I wish I had those ragethreads people made about me. I also wish I had access to all that shit that I did to get Arnox demodded. HILARITY
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I wish we had access to that there was some hilarious fucking posts on there
*has access* - to the .com, not the .net.
really can you see the .com stuff that was where a majority of my posts are
Man I wish I had those ragethreads people made about me. I also wish I had access to all that shit that I did to get Arnox demodded. HILARITY
I wish I had the shit I said about badze there was some hilarious shit in that
there's also a thread on there Arnox made an ATTN: The Smith trying to talk shit on me with a harry potter meme in it it was fucking priceless the lol's from that thread
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It would be great for our zoklet friends to see what we saw about Arnox lol
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It would be great for our zoklet friends to see what we saw about Arnox lol
Yeah I would love that he had the balls to call me a liar in this thread for brining up T2 stuff
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4274.15
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It would be great for our zoklet friends to see what we saw about Arnox lol
Yeah I would love that he had the balls to call me a liar in this thread for brining up T2 stuff
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4274.15
Fucking hilarious. Arnox was tolerated. I was a polarizing poster on t2 and I am on other forums. It's part of what I enjoy about forums in general. You were always a level-headed poster and I appreciated the content you delivered. It's too bad Arnox is trying to tarnish your reputation.
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It would be great for our zoklet friends to see what we saw about Arnox lol
mormons gonna mormon
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The access I have to it is pretty buggy. The old host of totse2 left it for us for some testing purposes, but it's super slow and bugs out. They wanted us to switch to a different server and pay more money.
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It would be great for our zoklet friends to see what we saw about Arnox lol
Yeah I would love that he had the balls to call me a liar in this thread for brining up T2 stuff
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4274.15
Fucking hilarious. Arnox was tolerated. I was a polarizing poster on t2 and I am on other forums. It's part of what I enjoy about forums in general. You were always a level-headed poster and I appreciated the content you delivered. It's too bad Arnox is trying to tarnish your reputation.
I appreciate it your posts on W&C was what made me sign up for the site it's hilarious how he tries to twist who we were on there to make himself seem better it legit rustles my jimmies
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Real recognize real. Nuff said.
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It would be great for our zoklet friends to see what we saw about Arnox lol
Yeah I would love that he had the balls to call me a liar in this thread for brining up T2 stuff
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4274.15
Fucking hilarious. Arnox was tolerated. I was a polarizing poster on t2 and I am on other forums. It's part of what I enjoy about forums in general. You were always a level-headed poster and I appreciated the content you delivered. It's too bad Arnox is trying to tarnish your reputation.
I appreciate it your posts on W&C was what made me sign up for the site it's hilarious how he tries to twist who we were on there to make himself seem better it legit rustles my jimmies
I posted legitimate content all the time. People tried to claim I was copypasting it all, which was bs. I wrote a ton of stuff in my free time because it was fun. I know your content was legit too. Seeing someone try to twist what we did is pretty sad. It speaks volumes to his character. Hilariously enough I've learned even more in the past few years than I knew when I wrote all my old content. I have much more to offer now but almost no desire to cast pearls before swine (arnox) on here.
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It would be great for our zoklet friends to see what we saw about Arnox lol
Yeah I would love that he had the balls to call me a liar in this thread for brining up T2 stuff
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4274.15
Fucking hilarious. Arnox was tolerated. I was a polarizing poster on t2 and I am on other forums. It's part of what I enjoy about forums in general. You were always a level-headed poster and I appreciated the content you delivered. It's too bad Arnox is trying to tarnish your reputation.
I appreciate it your posts on W&C was what made me sign up for the site it's hilarious how he tries to twist who we were on there to make himself seem better it legit rustles my jimmies
I posted legitimate content all the time. People tried to claim I was copypasting it all, which was bs. I wrote a ton of stuff in my free time because it was fun. I know your content was legit too. Seeing someone try to twist what we did is pretty sad. It speaks volumes to his character. Hilariously enough I've learned even more in the past few years than I knew when I wrote all my old content. I have much more to offer now but almost no desire to cast pearls before swine (arnox) on here.
fucking ditto especially when he dismisses shit about zek derailing threads in W&C with "the info wasn't important anyway"
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It would be great for our zoklet friends to see what we saw about Arnox lol
Yeah I would love that he had the balls to call me a liar in this thread for brining up T2 stuff
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4274.15
Fucking hilarious. Arnox was tolerated. I was a polarizing poster on t2 and I am on other forums. It's part of what I enjoy about forums in general. You were always a level-headed poster and I appreciated the content you delivered. It's too bad Arnox is trying to tarnish your reputation.
I appreciate it your posts on W&C was what made me sign up for the site it's hilarious how he tries to twist who we were on there to make himself seem better it legit rustles my jimmies
I posted legitimate content all the time. People tried to claim I was copypasting it all, which was bs. I wrote a ton of stuff in my free time because it was fun. I know your content was legit too. Seeing someone try to twist what we did is pretty sad. It speaks volumes to his character. Hilariously enough I've learned even more in the past few years than I knew when I wrote all my old content. I have much more to offer now but almost no desire to cast pearls before swine (arnox) on here.
fucking ditto especially when he dismisses shit about zek derailing threads in W&C with "the info wasn't important anyway"
yeah when I see that I say fuck it. Why bother guides on knives, metallurgy, outdoors skills, gear, etc. when it's all going to get derailed or have 4 pageviews? LOL
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It would be great for our zoklet friends to see what we saw about Arnox lol
Yeah I would love that he had the balls to call me a liar in this thread for brining up T2 stuff
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4274.15
Fucking hilarious. Arnox was tolerated. I was a polarizing poster on t2 and I am on other forums. It's part of what I enjoy about forums in general. You were always a level-headed poster and I appreciated the content you delivered. It's too bad Arnox is trying to tarnish your reputation.
I appreciate it your posts on W&C was what made me sign up for the site it's hilarious how he tries to twist who we were on there to make himself seem better it legit rustles my jimmies
I posted legitimate content all the time. People tried to claim I was copypasting it all, which was bs. I wrote a ton of stuff in my free time because it was fun. I know your content was legit too. Seeing someone try to twist what we did is pretty sad. It speaks volumes to his character. Hilariously enough I've learned even more in the past few years than I knew when I wrote all my old content. I have much more to offer now but almost no desire to cast pearls before swine (arnox) on here.
fucking ditto especially when he dismisses shit about zek derailing threads in W&C with "the info wasn't important anyway"
yeah when I see that I say fuck it. Why bother guides on knives, metallurgy, outdoors skills, gear, etc. when it's all going to get derailed or have 4 pageviews? LOL
no shit you better be careful cause just like in your recipe threads the admin might come in and insult your contribution because you managed to hurt his asshole in B&M
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It would be great for our zoklet friends to see what we saw about Arnox lol
Yeah I would love that he had the balls to call me a liar in this thread for brining up T2 stuff
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4274.15
Fucking hilarious. Arnox was tolerated. I was a polarizing poster on t2 and I am on other forums. It's part of what I enjoy about forums in general. You were always a level-headed poster and I appreciated the content you delivered. It's too bad Arnox is trying to tarnish your reputation.
I appreciate it your posts on W&C was what made me sign up for the site it's hilarious how he tries to twist who we were on there to make himself seem better it legit rustles my jimmies
I posted legitimate content all the time. People tried to claim I was copypasting it all, which was bs. I wrote a ton of stuff in my free time because it was fun. I know your content was legit too. Seeing someone try to twist what we did is pretty sad. It speaks volumes to his character. Hilariously enough I've learned even more in the past few years than I knew when I wrote all my old content. I have much more to offer now but almost no desire to cast pearls before swine (arnox) on here.
fucking ditto especially when he dismisses shit about zek derailing threads in W&C with "the info wasn't important anyway"
yeah when I see that I say fuck it. Why bother guides on knives, metallurgy, outdoors skills, gear, etc. when it's all going to get derailed or have 4 pageviews? LOL
no shit you better be careful cause just like in your recipe threads the admin might come in and insult your contribution because you managed to hurt his asshole in B&M
omfg i still cannot believe he came into my "real salsa" thread to insult me when there were about 5 people on this site and i was one of the only ones posting any real content. too fucking funny.
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I like how Arnox moved the one thread with 10K + views to "not in my forum" because he's far more retarded without drugs than all members of the retarded thread together while overdosing
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It would be great for our zoklet friends to see what we saw about Arnox lol
Yeah I would love that he had the balls to call me a liar in this thread for brining up T2 stuff
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4274.15
Fucking hilarious. Arnox was tolerated. I was a polarizing poster on t2 and I am on other forums. It's part of what I enjoy about forums in general. You were always a level-headed poster and I appreciated the content you delivered. It's too bad Arnox is trying to tarnish your reputation.
I appreciate it your posts on W&C was what made me sign up for the site it's hilarious how he tries to twist who we were on there to make himself seem better it legit rustles my jimmies
I posted legitimate content all the time. People tried to claim I was copypasting it all, which was bs. I wrote a ton of stuff in my free time because it was fun. I know your content was legit too. Seeing someone try to twist what we did is pretty sad. It speaks volumes to his character. Hilariously enough I've learned even more in the past few years than I knew when I wrote all my old content. I have much more to offer now but almost no desire to cast pearls before swine (arnox) on here.
fucking ditto especially when he dismisses shit about zek derailing threads in W&C with "the info wasn't important anyway"
yeah when I see that I say fuck it. Why bother guides on knives, metallurgy, outdoors skills, gear, etc. when it's all going to get derailed or have 4 pageviews? LOL
no shit you better be careful cause just like in your recipe threads the admin might come in and insult your contribution because you managed to hurt his asshole in B&M
omfg i still cannot believe he came into my "real salsa" thread to insult me when there were about 5 people on this site and i was one of the only ones posting any real content. too fucking funny.
that shit was hilarious and it set a real good tone for how he acts for anything that isn't some other shit that only he is interested in
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I like how Arnox moved the one thread with 10K + views to "not in my forum" because he's far more retarded without drugs than all members of the retarded thread together while overdosing
I lol'd. TRT really does need to get moved back out of NMIF.
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TRT really does need to get moved back out of NMIF.
Why? Just post in NIMF now. There's no reason for the thread other than tradition.
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TRT really does need to get moved back out of NMIF.
Why? Just post in NIMF now. There's no reason for the thread other than tradition.
"what are page views and google indexes?"
Arnox, are you really this stupid?
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There's no reason for the thread other than tradition.
what a fucking solipsistic douche bag you are
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LOL YEAH GUYS FUCK TOTSE IT'S ONLY TRADITION :FACEPALM:
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DRAGONS ARE THE FUTURE YOU'RE IN MY GAY TRANNY MORMON WORLD NOW GUYS DEAL WITH IT HAHAHAHA I MADE A FORUM WITH MY ALLOWANCE
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what a great "major sanctuary update" this turned out to be
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TRT really does need to get moved back out of NMIF.
Why? Just post in NIMF now. There's no reason for the thread other than tradition.
Pretty much
LOL YEAH GUYS FUCK TOTSE IT'S ONLY TRADITION :FACEPALM:
Maybe it's nothing more than tradition but you're telling a group of people they belong in the trash for upholding one of the longest standing traditions this community has. What was it hurting in HB? How does it fail to fit in HB? You personally told people to ignore the entirety of NIMF, what does that say to people regularly contributing to a thread in that forum?
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Awwww, am I 'harassing' you, arnox?
you fucking thin skinned petty little fuck
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Maybe it's nothing more than tradition but you're telling a group of people they belong in the trash
Ah but it's not a trash can anymore really. It has evolved into something else entirely. We have a forum trash can. It is not that. I'm sorry if you're perceiving it as such.
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TRT really does need to get moved back out of NMIF.
Why? Just post in NIMF now. There's no reason for the thread other than tradition.
Pretty much
LOL YEAH GUYS FUCK TOTSE IT'S ONLY TRADITION :FACEPALM:
Maybe it's nothing more than tradition but you're telling a group of people they belong in the trash for upholding one of the longest standing traditions this community has. What was it hurting in HB? How does it fail to fit in HB? You personally told people to ignore the entirety of NIMF, what does that say to people regularly contributing to a thread in that forum?
I think you misread what I was saying. I was agreeing with the tradition. I was disagreeing with arnox's retardation. The thread is totse tradition and it needs to be preserved.
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I havent been posting much lately. Too much on my plate working around the ole homestead. Seems decent to me, and I approve of the changes.. especially the smilies.. Im just reading the first page of replies, I'm hoping those other 12 are of positive reviews.
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Maybe it's nothing more than tradition but you're telling a group of people they belong in the trash
Ah but it's not a trash can anymore really. It has evolved into something else entirely. We have a forum trash can. It is not that. I'm sorry if you're perceiving it as such.
*arnox dumps trash out of the trash can and kicks it across the floor to the userbase
"here, post in here....its not the trash can anymore, we call it 'the round file'"
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arnox stop fucking banning people there's hardly anyone left you stupid niggerlover
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I'm hoping those other 12 are of positive reviews.
Why, because any negative reviews will depress you or something? Or are you just another fucking ass-kisser like 'ballsdeep69'?
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arnox stop fucking banning people there's hardly anyone left you stupid niggerlover
I will be banned soon too, because I am not going to shut the fuck up, like, ever
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Why did you ban Vizier you.... Arnox, really?
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I think you misread what I was saying. I was agreeing with the tradition. I was disagreeing with arnox's retardation. The thread is totse tradition and it needs to be preserved.
I was agreeing with what you were saying. The tradition is significant. And even if it wasn't, TRT would still belong in HB rather than the "chaos zone" because HB is exactly what that kind of posting is for.
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heh I got a warning for 'harassing' arnox
what a sniveling little bitch
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R.I.P. viz, we loved you
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I think you misread what I was saying. I was agreeing with the tradition. I was disagreeing with arnox's retardation. The thread is totse tradition and it needs to be preserved.
I was agreeing with what you were saying. The tradition is significant. And even if it wasn't, TRT would still belong in HB rather than the "chaos zone" because HB is exactly what that kind of posting is for.
it belongs in bltc because it is basically a 'hb' for that forum...a place to post drug gibberish rather than making 10,000 threads with 'Im so wasted'.....you'd think arnox would jump on a chance to merge everything into one big thread....the only traditions he respects involve mormons or dragons
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I was agreeing with what you were saying. The tradition is significant. And even if it wasn't, TRT would still belong in HB rather than the "chaos zone" because HB is exactly what that kind of posting is for.
Well, in the past totse, yes. You would be right. But the sub-forum...
You know what? JUST BECAUSE you're being civil, I will move it back to BLTC/HB back just to drive a point home.
Where do you guys want the thread?
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I think you misread what I was saying. I was agreeing with the tradition. I was disagreeing with arnox's retardation. The thread is totse tradition and it needs to be preserved.
I was agreeing with what you were saying. The tradition is significant. And even if it wasn't, TRT would still belong in HB rather than the "chaos zone" because HB is exactly what that kind of posting is for.
then it's settled. TRT belongs in HB!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You know what? JUST BECAUSE you're being civil
you have the pettiness and passive aggressive tendencies of a woman, you know that, arnox?
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HB is home
<3 thanks bae
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We'll move it to HB and see if people mind it there.
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Oh I completely forgot to say. Totse2 had a rep system. And then we took out because it led to (surprise surprise) circle-jerking and rep abuse. Ask Spectre about it if you like.
That is a specious analogy; 1) The Zoklet pos' rep system was different from Totse2's pos'/neg' rep system. As Equanimity might say 'people can only be nice to each other' with the Zoklet system. 2) The majority of this userbase is from Zoklet, not Totse2.
And actually, the general consensus (even from you I think) seems to be that Zoklet was terrible and poorly managed and run. Are you saying now that Zok had the right idea?
You seem to have a chronic desire to conflate general and specific situations when it suits you. I'm not sure who you are trying to fool; yourself or me. I would say that statement about Zoklet is generally correct but the thanks system was not specifically part of the problem.
And even FURTHER, others here DID NOT want it at all. Admittedly, it was less than the people who did but I already tried finding a Thanks system for us and I couldn't so it's not like I didn't try.
You've already conceded to the will of the majority on the site logo issue. And I think I've made a reasonable case for why a positive thanks system could at least be trialled.
We could just try it. If it fails, then remove it.
Sometimes we gotta do things we don't want to do, just to keep our customers happy.
Thanks is fun, and as Idio said with no negative rep it shouldn't cause problems. Never did any harm on Zoklet.
Finally, you appear to think the userbase is significantly retarded and/or not to be trusted (for the sake of balance the feeling appears to be mutual), but consider the fact that half of your beloved "council" agree with me.
Are there any other "FURTHER" comments you'd like to make?
Are you going to respond to this Arnox?
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You know what? JUST BECAUSE you're being civil
you have the pettiness and passive aggressive tendencies of a woman, you know that, arnox?
Most definitely this. Is embarrassing to witness how dependent Arnox is to have people talking softly/nicely to him. Exactly WHAT is he doing here, any how?
Are you going to respond to this Arnox?
I wouldn't count on it. There are a whole host of things Arnox won't respond to, no matter how many times you ask. Just a grain of sand on a big beach of avoidance, stalling, and wishful thinking.
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There are a whole host of things Arnox won't respond to, no matter how many times you ask. Just a grain of sand on a big beach of avoidance, stalling, and wishful thinking.
fucking this
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If Arnox were drowning in deep water, I wouldn't pass him a bag stuffed with bricks OR a full-sized piano.
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You've used that line or variations on it too many times at this point spectral, get some new outdated expressions.
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You've used that line or variations on it too many times at this point spectral, get some new outdated expressions.
I need some new outdated expressions.
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maybe "tarnation" would be a good choice
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Are you going to respond to this Arnox?
Ultimately, I have nothing else to say. I'll have to do another poll first but right now I have other things I need to sort out.
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Are you going to respond to this Arnox?
Ultimately, I have nothing else to say. I'll have to do another poll first but right now I have other things I need to sort out.
You want me to throw one up?
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You want me to throw one up?
It's OK. I'll take care of it.
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You want me to throw one up?
You're restricted from running certain polls on your own initiative.
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It's just pathetic seeing a forum admin with 1700 and counting posts. If you want people to take you seriously arnox don't shit where you eat.