Of course I'm 'Zek. The truth is, I wanted to come out with it as soon as I was modded, but Arnox thought it would result in less drama if I kept it a secret for now. He thought once things quieted down it would be a better time. Things aren't going to quiet down though. Even if I'm demoted, the drama will rage on.
Arnox, you covered Zek for long enough now. You ignored your own rules to cover Zek and therefor humiliated your whole userbase.
Instead of telling the truth you kept playing the game of "but she said herself that she is NOT Zek :rolleyes:" and kept lying to the whole fucking userbase, the internet and God fully knowing that equanimity IS Zek.
Kudos, you really fucked yourself over with this. :tup:
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 02:43:02 pm
lol Profezionalism iz ub da higest impotants
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 01, 2014, 02:43:16 pm
Everyone already knew, RisiR.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 02:46:37 pm
Held to a high standard huh more like held to a double standard ZING
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: MoaningLisa on November 01, 2014, 02:47:06 pm
the site drama over literally nothing continues...
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 02:48:36 pm
He lied to Jesus and Joseph Smith because he lusted over an abomination of a semi-humanlike creature.
That's not a Sanctuary sin that gets you banned, that shit will get you straight to hell.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 02:49:32 pm
the site drama over literally nothing continues...
except you know just this http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4.0
and all the hardline stances Arnie took on just about every thing else and the whole not listening to his users and the whole... nah you're right nothing
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 02:50:45 pm
the site drama over literally nothing continues...
What about the people who got banned over posting PI while the admin himself doesn't enforce the rules himself when it comes to covering his precious mod buddy.
I made a whole fucking topic full of Zek pics and other people get banned for posting the vizier.jpg?
BULLSHIT. Fuck yourself.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 01, 2014, 02:58:52 pm
My PI has not been verified.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Slave of the Beast on November 01, 2014, 02:59:43 pm
Arnox tells me he is disappointed in my character for calling Zek a cunt in B&M for lying about my posting habits, then continues to lie through his own teeth to the entire userbase when directly questioned about the identity of a staff member.
If hypocrisy was a saleable product Arnox would be a rich man.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 03:00:27 pm
You forgot the old saying, "Fuck teh Admin!". Anytime you listen to an Admin you are going to run into serious trouble. You would think you had learned that lesson from both &Totse and Zoklet. Admins are good for certain things within their own scope of perusal, but running a community, making policies, choosing leaders, etc, FORGET IT! This is why SLIM, SoTB, I, and a few others just told zok and wires to go fuck themselves when they decided to manipulate events to their own liking and try to force us to go along. You should have done the same thing. TRANSPARENCY and ACCOUNTABILITY. That's ALL that matters. So what if they're the Admin? Fuck them! You do the right thing and you'll ALWAYS come out on top. So consider this a final lesson learned and always be above-board and always hit above the belt when it comes to community spirit.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 01, 2014, 03:21:44 pm
Wow honestly I was a skeptic until now. hmmm.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 03:26:08 pm
You forgot the old saying, "Fuck teh Admin!". Anytime you listen to an Admin you are going to run into serious trouble. You would think you had learned that lesson from both &Totse and Zoklet. Admins are good for certain things within their own scope of perusal, but running a community, making policies, choosing leaders, etc, FORGET IT! This is why SLIM, SoTB, I, and a few others just told zok and wires to go fuck themselves when they decided to manipulate events to their own liking and try to force us to go along. You should have done the same thing. TRANSPARENCY and ACCOUNTABILITY. That's ALL that matters. So what if they're the Admin? Fuck them! You do the right thing and you'll ALWAYS come out on top. So consider this a final lesson learned and always be above-board and always hit above the belt when it comes to community spirit.
Hey Spectral, did you verify your PI?
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 01, 2014, 03:30:21 pm
To the rest of the userbase: Any time one of you refer to Zek as a "her" in the future, I'm going to scoff and laugh my ass off at your ridiculous attempts at political correctness all in the pursuit of satiating a very toxic and disturbed individual that is doing nothing more than playing "let's make pretend".
To Arnox: I told you within days if not hours that modding Zek would blowup in your face, and would create a lot of bullshit and drama that would be detrimental to the bigger picture and long term future of this website. Instead of heeding my words (and many other members) you instead dug your heels in....and lied, manipulated, and played countless games with us. You have sullied the website, your own reputation....but most importantly the trust and respect between yourself and the userbase.
I don't know what you plan on doing to "fix this"....but if you think coming back to us with yet ANOTHER 'Fresh Start Thread Part II Reloaded" is an answer, it certainly isn't. Unless you bring a lot of grovelling, apologies, and most importantly FIX THE FUCKIN PROBLEM and finally demod this toxic, parasitic attention whore. I told you many weeks ago that if Zek had any sense of personal responsibilty or integrity and actually CARED for the betterment of the website......he would have stepped down for everyone involved, but he didn't do that. Instead he dragged YOU into his games, drama, and immaturity....and now you only have yourself to blame for this absolute farce of a mess of a website that you've turned it into.
To Zek: Now that there is no denying it, how about answering the question I asked you a couple of months ago. Exactly HOW MUCH TIME have you spent associating with your children this calendar year? That is including phone calls, because we know actually visiting/spending physical time with them would take actual sacrifice and effort from you....and we all know what kind of self-centered creep you truly are. Tell us....how many hours have you spent even so much as talking to them in all of 2014 combined?
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 03:33:14 pm
To the rest of the userbase: Any time one of you refer to Zek as a "her" in the future, I'm going to scoff and laugh my ass off at your ridiculous attempts at political correctness all in the pursuit of satiating a very toxic and disturbed individual that is doing nothing more than playing "let's make pretend".
To Arnox: I told you within days if not hours that modding Zek would blowup in your face, and would create a lot of bullshit and drama that would be detrimental to the bigger picture and long term future of this website. Instead of heeding my words (and many other members) you instead dug your heels in....and lied, manipulated, and played countless games with us. You have sullied the website, your own reputation....but most importantly the trust and respect between yourself and the userbase.
I don't know what you plan on doing to "fix this"....but if you think coming back to us with yet ANOTHER 'Fresh Start Thread Part II Reloaded" is an answer, it certainly isn't. Unless you bring a lot of grovelling, apologies, and most importantly FIX THE FUCKIN PROBLEM and finally demod this toxic, parasitic attention whore. I told you many weeks ago that if Zek had any sense of personal responsibilty or integrity and actually CARED for the betterment of the website......he would have stepped down for everyone involved, but he didn't do that. Instead he dragged YOU into his games, drama, and immaturity....and now you only have yourself to blame for this absolute farce of a mess of a website that you've turned it into.
To Zek: Now that there is no denying it, how about answering the question I asked you a couple of months ago. Exactly HOW MUCH TIME have you spent associating with your children this calendar year? That is including phone calls, because we know actually visiting/spending physical time with them would take actual sacrifice and effort from you....and we all know what kind of self-centered creep you truly are. Tell us....how many hours have you spent even so much as talking to them in all of 2014 combined?
Bring the rain Guru
Fresh start 2 electric boogalo: I promise I won't be wildly dismissive and lie through my teeth guys edition
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Σ on November 01, 2014, 04:03:07 pm
Oh cool this is still going on.
Enjoy the pained anus's fellas!
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 04:04:11 pm
ITT people have been vindicated for all the things they said while Arnox dismisses and lies through his teeth but we're the asshurt ones
gold
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 01, 2014, 04:14:24 pm
C'mon, guys. We're not here to make mincemeat out of anybody. We'd just like it if the staff would finally get their shit together and do things right, that's all. It doesn't have to be an Us vs Them mentality at all, as long as this fiasco doesn't continue. But as for Zek, I'd suggest just change your nick to Zek and start considering taking more accountability in your comments across the board. You're held to a higher standard now, so you just can't come across as anything less than professional. Your personal life is irrelevant.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 04:18:32 pm
C'mon, guys. We're not here to make mincemeat out of anybody. We'd just like it if the staff would finally get their shit together and do things right, that's all. It doesn't have to be an Us vs Them mentality at all, as long as this fiasco doesn't continue. But as for Zek, I'd suggest just change your nick to Zek and start considering taking more accountability in your comments across the board. You're held to a higher standard now, so you just can't come across as anything less than professional. Your personal life is irrelevant.
that would be a reasonable stance if people were just upfront when this started as it is it has driven away posters had the admin compress everything into containment threads an clearly demonstrated double standards and unprofessional behavior by someone who constantly berates his user base for not being "civil" while lying to them through his teeth and mocking legitimate complaints
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 01, 2014, 04:19:18 pm
C'mon, guys. We're not here to make mincemeat out of anybody. We'd just like it if the staff would finally get their shit together and do things right, that's all. It doesn't have to be an Us vs Them mentality at all, as long as this fiasco doesn't continue. But as for Zek, I'd suggest just change your nick to Zek and start considering taking more accountability in your comments across the board. You're held to a higher standard now, so you just can't come across as anything less than professional. Your personal life is irrelevant.
Thanks, SpectraL. What do you mean about taking more accountability in my comments, though? I feel I've been very open about my moderating.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 04:20:19 pm
C'mon, guys. We're not here to make mincemeat out of anybody. We'd just like it if the staff would finally get their shit together and do things right, that's all. It doesn't have to be an Us vs Them mentality at all, as long as this fiasco doesn't continue. But as for Zek, I'd suggest just change your nick to Zek and start considering taking more accountability in your comments across the board. You're held to a higher standard now, so you just can't come across as anything less than professional. Your personal life is irrelevant.
I know what you're trying to do. ;) You should rather answer my question, though.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 01, 2014, 04:24:11 pm
C'mon, guys. We're not here to make mincemeat out of anybody. We'd just like it if the staff would finally get their shit together and do things right, that's all. It doesn't have to be an Us vs Them mentality at all, as long as this fiasco doesn't continue. But as for Zek, I'd suggest just change your nick to Zek and start considering taking more accountability in your comments across the board. You're held to a higher standard now, so you just can't come across as anything less than professional. Your personal life is irrelevant.
I know what you're trying to do. ;) You should rather answer my question, though.
Are you DarkHunter?
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 04:31:10 pm
Fuck no.
I'm a legitimate newbie. :D
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 01, 2014, 04:37:25 pm
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 04:40:37 pm
I grew up on a small farm in Dallas in the late 60's and.... wait a minute. :suspect:
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 01, 2014, 04:50:01 pm
What I especially love about this latest twist now that we know Arnox has been lying and manipulating all these weeks, is how it reminds me of a lot of people I've dealt with IRL many times over the years. People like Arnox DESPISE up front, brutally honest folks. They try to portray my style as being a weakness....as if not being nice enough, polite enough, or having a rough delivery is somehow bad. All the while they try to champion their very soft, passive outlook as being a "positive".
But just like in Arnox's case, when it all comes out in the end....these holier than thou passive little bitches usually end up being liars, backstabbers, game players and manipulators. In their demented minds because on the OUTSIDE they acted "nice" they think they are better than everyone else....when in truth they have some of the darkest and most selfish hearts imaginable. The reason they try to demonize and admonish people like me that are up front and in your face....is because they are just stupid little cowards, not having the backbone to stand up to folks and call a spade a spade. Instead, they just hide in the shadows like squirrely little rodents clinging onto the rhetoric of....."but I'm much calmer/nicer/more polite than that guy", when in the end they are just snivelling little scumbags.
As I've been mocking Arnox for several weeks now...."being nice" isn't necessarily a commodity that is something to always be valued or relevant in a lot of things in this world. And now as it turns out, someone that cares TOO MUCH about "niceness" is just hiding behind that facade, all the while being even more despicable and ugly than the people that don't give a fuck about delivery or tone when discussing the cold hard truths about this world.
ELL OH FUCKIN ELL @ you Arnox, for being just as toxic and cowardly as so many other FAKE passive/nice/ polite jackasses in the real world. :D
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 05:14:37 pm
Around what time does Arnox get online normally?
I hate waiting.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 01, 2014, 05:16:37 pm
Dunno, it's Saturday. Most people do stuff on Saturday.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 05:19:11 pm
Mormons don't.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Zanick on November 01, 2014, 05:48:59 pm
What I especially love about this latest twist now that we know Arnox has been lying and manipulating all these weeks, is how it reminds me of a lot of people I've dealt with IRL many times over the years. People like Arnox DESPISE up front, brutally honest folks. They try to portray my style as being a weakness....as if not being nice enough, polite enough, or having a rough delivery is somehow bad. All the while they try to champion their very soft, passive outlook as being a "positive".
But just like in Arnox's case, when it all comes out in the end....these holier than thou passive little bitches usually end up being liars, backstabbers, game players and manipulators. In their demented minds because on the OUTSIDE they acted "nice" they think they are better than everyone else....when in truth they have some of the darkest and most selfish hearts imaginable. The reason they try to demonize and admonish people like me that are up front and in your face....is because they are just stupid little cowards, not having the backbone to stand up to folks and call a spade a spade. Instead, they just hide in the shadows like squirrely little rodents clinging onto the rhetoric of....."but I'm much calmer/nicer/more polite than that guy", when in the end they are just snivelling little scumbags.
As I've been mocking Arnox for several weeks now...."being nice" isn't necessarily a commodity that is something to always be valued or relevant in a lot of things in this world. And now as it turns out, someone that cares TOO MUCH about "niceness" is just hiding behind that facade, all the while being even more despicable and ugly than the people that don't give a fuck about delivery or tone when discussing the cold hard truths about this world.
ELL OH FUCKIN ELL @ you Arnox, for being just as toxic and cowardly as so many other FAKE passive/nice/ polite jackasses in the real world. :D
Proots is nice and brutal. Your refusal to accomodate others' basic emotional needs is still a moral shortcoming on your part just like your desire to fuck children.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: zok jr. on November 01, 2014, 05:50:06 pm
Arnox and zek sitting in a tree k i s s i n g
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 05:50:35 pm
No.
Don't turn this thread into one of your debates. This is not the place for it.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 05:52:21 pm
C'mon, guys. We're not here to make mincemeat out of anybody. We'd just like it if the staff would finally get their shit together and do things right, that's all. It doesn't have to be an Us vs Them mentality at all, as long as this fiasco doesn't continue. But as for Zek, I'd suggest just change your nick to Zek and start considering taking more accountability in your comments across the board. You're held to a higher standard now, so you just can't come across as anything less than professional. Your personal life is irrelevant.
Shit, that sounds pretty reasonable. Not being familiar with Zek's modding style beforehand, I haven't really seen cause for alarm thus far. I don't think the nick really matters, but I'm trying to understand why it was felt that this required secrecy.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 01, 2014, 05:56:58 pm
Shit, that sounds pretty reasonable. Not being familiar with Zek's modding style beforehand, I haven't really seen cause for alarm thus far. I don't think the nick really matters, but I'm trying to understand why it was felt that this required secrecy.
I first registered hoping I could just post without the boring harassment that happened on zoklet, so I was decidedly not Zek. Then when I was modded it remained a "secret" to hopefully cut down on drama. By the time RisiR outed me most of the site knew who I was regardless.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 06:00:17 pm
you not being Zek was also used by the Admin and your self to flippantly dismiss any misgivings and legitimate concerns held by a lot of users while you and the Badmin lied repeatedly just to make his dismissals seem reasonable when they were not Badmin even going so far as to try to crush all dissent with containment threads
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 01, 2014, 06:03:44 pm
you not being Zek was also used by the Admin and your self to flippantly dismiss any misgivings and legitimate concerns held by a lot of users while you and the Badmin lied repeatedly just to make his dismissals seem reasonable when they were not Badmin even going so far as to try to crush all dissent with containment threads
Which misgivings and legitimate concerns were flippantly dismissed?
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 06:06:21 pm
you not being Zek was also used by the Admin and your self to flippantly dismiss any misgivings and legitimate concerns held by a lot of users while you and the Badmin lied repeatedly just to make his dismissals seem reasonable when they were not Badmin even going so far as to try to crush all dissent with containment threads
Which misgivings and legitimate concerns were flippantly dismissed?
Stop playing games. You've been here the whole fucking time, too. You know what happened. Stop acting dumb.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: zok jr. on November 01, 2014, 06:06:26 pm
you not being Zek was also used by the Admin and your self to flippantly dismiss any misgivings and legitimate concerns held by a lot of users while you and the Badmin lied repeatedly just to make his dismissals seem reasonable when they were not Badmin even going so far as to try to crush all dissent with containment threads
Which misgivings and legitimate concerns were flippantly dismissed?
that you are a terrorist
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 06:08:57 pm
you not being Zek was also used by the Admin and your self to flippantly dismiss any misgivings and legitimate concerns held by a lot of users while you and the Badmin lied repeatedly just to make his dismissals seem reasonable when they were not Badmin even going so far as to try to crush all dissent with containment threads
Which misgivings and legitimate concerns were flippantly dismissed?
Stop playing games. You've been here the whole fucking time, too. You know what happened. Stop acting dumb.
^fucking this you've been in damn near everyone of those threads dipping and dodging right along side the badmin
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 01, 2014, 06:13:48 pm
I do my best to address your concerns. Have been really open about my moderating. Really I don't know what you mean about being dismissive, unless you mean the baseless internet drama. Drama for drama's sake.
And we all know not to take that seriously, right?
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 06:23:26 pm
I do my best to address your concerns. Have been really open about my moderating. Really I don't know what you mean about being dismissive, unless you mean the baseless internet drama. Drama for drama's sake.
And we all know not to take that seriously, right?
pretty much anytime anything has been brought up to arnox he's responded with an "I'm not going to answer that" response that would be pretty fucking dismissive but I'm sure if you'll look through damn near every thread you've been the subject of you'll see all the ridiculous double stands applied to you and the lack of your own "professionalism" arnox holds so dear
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 06:26:01 pm
I'm pretty sure he's talking about that weapons thread you derailed and how you and Arnox reacted to it as it was brought up.
Compressing all staff complaints in one thread is pretty dismissive but that wasn't your idea, I guess.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 06:29:00 pm
I'm pretty sure he's talking about that weapons thread you derailed and how you and Arnox reacted to it as it was brought up.
Compressing all staff complaints in one thread is pretty dismissive but that wasn't your idea, I guess.
^ this is also the example I brought up repeatedly in the past
at the end of the day it comes to the admin who apparently holds his staff to "a high standard" which is clearly not your case zek if you've noticed there has been little to no complaints about other members of the team
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 01, 2014, 06:36:03 pm
I first registered hoping I could just post without the boring harassment that happened on zoklet, so I was decidedly not Zek. Then when I was modded it remained a "secret" to hopefully cut down on drama. By the time RisiR outed me most of the site knew who I was regardless.
And this is why both you and Arnox are incredibly stupid and naive. The fact you thought you could actually pull off an alt without any suspicion, when most people that post with any regularity usually get discovered sooner than later. Unstable Matter always sticks out. Dark Rodent always stick out. And someone as quirky/weird/fucked up as you would most CERTAINLY stick out.
The fact you both thought it would just "blow over"in time proves how neither of you have any social awareness, and a total lack of understanding of just how much you are hated and despised for being the derailing malcontent that you are. Most of this userbase already knew what kind of gameplaying attention whore you were for so many years, and THAT is why everyone was pissed off at you being modded...it had nothing to do with what kind of pathetic mutilating freak you are IRL. The fact you went right back to your derailing idiocy along with gameplaying and immaturity with your control panel has now validated each and every user that made these claims for all these weeks.
I asked Arnox multiple times..."how is this going to work out positively for the userbase and the website over the long haul in the bigger picture"....and he avoided that question each and every time. Now that we know he just hoped it would all eventually just "go away" in time with wishful thinking and passive nonsense, shows how little prepared he is for any of this....and how completely UNqualified he is to have ownership/admin abilities for a community of these kind of demographics. I really hope your happy with yourself Zek, and you consider this the apex of your existence....because all of your trolling, attention whoring, and other blatant weirdo immaturity has now not just made YOU look like a pathetic juvenile fuck-up....its completely put egg on Arnox's face that he may never be able to wipe off, along with possibly ruining this website to an extent it may never recover from.
20/10 Trolling Zek.....you should be so proud of yourself, as its the culmination of your tattered existence that you mistakenly call a "life"(?).
"Oh the tangle web we weave, when at first we incessantly and adamantly claim that being "nice" is the only legitimate qualification for being a moderator"~~~~One really stupid and naive fuckin Admin
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 01, 2014, 06:43:48 pm
How much ass did you have to kiss to get the mod gig, zek?
I don't see why you were modded in the first place.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 06:47:41 pm
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Arnox on November 01, 2014, 06:50:20 pm
There is nothing really to say here. The people who are actually reasonable already understand and the the people who are unreasonable won't understand and think I'm the devil. (They already do. What's the difference?)
I'm not going to apologize for what I did at all. I still stand by my decision to mod him/her. I talked to eq for a while and asked her a lot of questions about her posting history on Zoklet. (got upset with the unfair moderation and basically gave up on the site) I was satisfied with the answers. And if you really need to ask why I lied, it was both an experiment and done to keep unnecessary drama down.
A little warning though. If I see anyone start pulling threads wildly off-topic just to spread the drama around, there's gonna be some infractions getting handed out. That is all.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 01, 2014, 06:50:45 pm
How much ass did you have to kiss to get the mod gig, zek?
I don't see why you were modded in the first place.
Arnox comes across to me as one of those "do-gooder" types that will make absurd decisions over rhetoric and hubris while completely ignoring the practical realities of life. This whole situation reminds me of a grocer that would take a learning disabled retard and make him a bagger in the checkout line.
In the grocer's mind he thinks he is doing something "nice" for the retard, the rhetoric of giving him purpose and responsibility. Meanwhile, he's made all of the rest of the worker's jobs that much harder, along with ruining the experience of the shoppers. Because while the retard is merrily bagging groceries with a shit eating grin misbelieving how "important" he is to the store....everyone else is standing around tapping their feet because its taking him so long to do his job. And then end up with irate customers once they get home and see their eggs broken and their bread smashed because the stupid lame brain put the milk and cannned goods on top of the crushables.
Exact. Same. Scenario. :(
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 01, 2014, 06:52:26 pm
And if you really need to ask why I lied, it was both an experiment and done to keep unnecessary drama down.
And just like Dr. Frankenstein the monster has an abnormal brain, and is running roughshod over the town. Great plan "keeping the drama down" wasn't it? *giggles*
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 01, 2014, 06:54:43 pm
Zek, why waste your time and energy on a community that hates you? Seems really pathetic.. If I got half the hate that you attract I would leave. Do you have no self esteem? Like not even a little?? Nice try, thought you could wipe the slate clean n start off as a new person.. this is even more pathetic. So I was right before when I said "Not even Zek wants to be Zek".. you'e a masochist for sure.
Arnox, He has got to go. In fact he's already gone. The only ones who don't see it are you and himself.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 06:56:23 pm
Oh Arnox... you keep killing me.
:laugh:
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 01, 2014, 06:58:19 pm
Zek, why waste your time and energy on a community that hates you? Seems really pathetic.. If I got half the hate that you attract I would leave. Do you have no self esteem? Like not even a little?? Nice try, thought you could wipe the slate clean n start off as a new person.. this is even more pathetic. So I was right before when I said "Not even Zek wants to be Zek".. you'e a masochist for sure.
You're worth my time and effort.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 01, 2014, 06:58:38 pm
If you got me and RisiR agreeing with each other then u know something is really wrong lol
@zek you shouldn't have come out. Caz I was "in your corner" in that I wasn't going to believe the Zek Truthers until there was definitive proof. Now there is no doubt in anybodies mind that you have got to go.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 06:58:59 pm
There is nothing really to say here. The people who are actually reasonable already understand and the the people who are unreasonable won't understand and think I'm the devil. (They already do. What's the difference?)
I'm not going to apologize for what I did at all. I still stand by my decision to mod him/her. I talked to eq for a while and asked her a lot of questions about her posting history on Zoklet. (got upset with the unfair moderation and basically gave up on the site) I was satisfied with the answers. And if you really need to ask why I lied, it was both an experiment and done to keep unnecessary drama down.
A little warning though. If I see anyone start pulling threads wildly off-topic just to spread the drama around, there's gonna be some infractions getting handed out. That is all.
"I did it as an experiment guize I'm not wildly inept and outlandishly hypocritical" I should have known you'd come in here still unwilling just to admit you were wrong you have a legitimate problem with always have to be the one who's right and you constantly do mental gymnastics to justify even your poorest of choices
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 07:00:53 pm
There is nothing really to say here. The people who are actually reasonable already understand and the the people who are unreasonable won't understand and think I'm the devil. (They already do. What's the difference?)
I'm not going to apologize for what I did at all. I still stand by my decision to mod him/her. I talked to eq for a while and asked her a lot of questions about her posting history on Zoklet. (got upset with the unfair moderation and basically gave up on the site) I was satisfied with the answers. And if you really need to ask why I lied, it was both an experiment and done to keep unnecessary drama down.
A little warning though. If I see anyone start pulling threads wildly off-topic just to spread the drama around, there's gonna be some infractions getting handed out. That is all.
"I did it as an experiment guize I'm not wildly inept and outlandishly hypocritical" I should have known you'd come in here still unwilling just to admit you were wrong you have a legitimate problem with always have to be the one who's right and you constantly do mental gymnastics to justify even your poorest of choices
Word.
Arnox, I'll help you fix this mess when you apologize for being a liar and an ignoramus.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Slave of the Beast on November 01, 2014, 07:12:49 pm
And if you really need to ask why I lied, it was both an experiment and done to keep unnecessary drama down.
So you thought hypocrisy and lies directed at the userbase, many of whom were smart enough to quickly see through 'Equanimity', would keep drama down. I see. The experiment appears to have been to assess levels of stupidity; both ours and yours.
I doubt the results are what you hoped for.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 07:15:58 pm
And if you really need to ask why I lied, it was both an experiment and done to keep unnecessary drama down.
So you thought hypocrisy and lies directed at the userbase, many of whom were smart enough to quickly see through 'Equanimity', would keep drama down. I see. The experiment appears to have been to assess levels of stupidity; both ours and yours.
I doubt the results are what you hoped for.
Hahahaha.... I doubt he even gets it. Oh God...
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 07:18:16 pm
And if you really need to ask why I lied, it was both an experiment and done to keep unnecessary drama down.
So you thought hypocrisy and lies directed at the userbase, many of whom were smart enough to quickly see through 'Equanimity', would keep drama down. I see. The experiment appears to have been to assess levels of stupidity; both ours and yours.
I doubt the results are what you hoped for.
Hahahaha.... I doubt he even gets it. Oh God...
and that's the problem it's why his cheap deflections are so laughable mind you he disappeared real fast after his cheap and frankly asinine I DON'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT and threatening nebulous infractions
so much professionalism here man SO MUCH
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Arnox on November 01, 2014, 07:20:29 pm
Lying to YOUR community for the sake of an "experiment".. that's not cool at all Arnox. You got so much egg on your face right now.
1. It wasn't just an experiment at all. Again, it was done to keep the drama to a minimum level. In fact that's the main reason.
2. The lie affected precisely NOTHING. I have looked through all her actions and have found none of them to be demod worthy and neither has my staff. And that was what really mattered. Her actions as a mod and if she followed the rules. (She did.) What difference does it really make if she was really Zek or Chuck Jones or Jeff Hunter?
3. I didn't WANT to lie but this is one of those you-can't-handle-the-truth moments as this thread so wonderfully proves. And besides, as eq said, it wasn't going to be forever. She decided to tell everyone though at the wrong time in somewhat the wrong way.
If you still think it was a poor decision, so be it. Again though, I stand by everything I've done. Oh, and actually, even if I WANTED to step down, there's no one suitable to take my place right now. Sorry.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 01, 2014, 07:25:17 pm
Demodding zek would keep the drama to a minimum. Which is why I say he's already gone you just don't know it yet. Regardless of his modding "skills". You can have an equally active dedicated mod without all the baggage.. think about it.
The only reason I see for you keeping him at this point is because you've developed a friendship and don't want to hurt his feelings.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 01, 2014, 07:27:43 pm
He's hosting the website for us, and maintaining its upkeep. We really should be grateful that someone takes the time to deal with our nonsense.
Please let's stop with the internet drama.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 07:29:56 pm
He doesn't follow the rules, that's a blatant lie.
He abused his mod power to change my name, derailed threads and spammed.
I can fucking link you to everything but YOU'VE BEEN THERE, TOO. You just fucking ignore it.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 07:30:11 pm
Demodding zek would keep the drama to a minimum. Which is why I say he's already gone you just don't know it yet. Regardless of his modding "skills". You can have an equally active dedicated mod without all the baggage.. think about it.
The only reason I see for you keeping him at this point is because you've developed a friendship and don't want to hurt his feelings.
Pretty much this. Demodding zek when people initially brought issue with it would have made "drama" non existent, and apart from you not wanting to be wrong and fighting tooth and nail to justify that you made the right call. There was no reason to not demod Zek if you were concerned with "drama". Look at the state of the fucking site for christ's sake
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Arnox on November 01, 2014, 07:33:25 pm
The only reason I see for you keeping him at this point is because you've developed a friendship and don't want to hurt his feelings.
Except she's done NOTHING WRONG. Seriously, why should I demod her? Popular demand? I'm not some mindless tool of the trolls. In fact, even if we consider who's responsible right now, that would be me because I told her to lie.
She won't be demodded unless she steps down. It's as simple as that.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: RisiR on November 01, 2014, 07:34:57 pm
The only reason I see for you keeping him at this point is because you've developed a friendship and don't want to hurt his feelings.
Except she's done NOTHING WRONG. Seriously, why should I demod her? Popular demand? I'm not some mindless tool of the trolls. In fact, even if we consider who's responsible right now, that would be me because I told her to lie.
She won't be demodded unless she steps down. It's as simple as that.
thread after thread after thread has been posted on why Zek doesn't make a good mod HE was modded under shady pretenses and against your own staffing policies
the fact is zek should never have been a mod in the first place full stop
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Arnox on November 01, 2014, 07:40:54 pm
Was only a suggestion for the banner; everyone chill out please. Let's get back to the topic of how to improve the site and bring in new people. My idea was kittens, let's see if you can top it.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 07:42:16 pm
Was only a suggestion for the banner; everyone chill out please. Let's get back to the topic of how to improve the site and bring in new people. My idea was kittens, let's see if you can top it.
too bad he didn't get banned immediately like the other poster did and had time to make an excuse for posting off topic shit cause even it being a banner suggestion was off topic
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 01, 2014, 07:42:28 pm
N look I'm not really a Zek hater. Don't know much of his past although from what I have heard he doesn't seem like the most responsible level headed thing.
I am not angry like some people. Just think that it's in the best interest of the site that he go. n I'm going to speak what I think. Whether you listen or not is up to you.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 01, 2014, 07:44:05 pm
Was only a suggestion for the banner; everyone chill out please. Let's get back to the topic of how to improve the site and bring in new people. My idea was kittens, let's see if you can top it.
That was an obvious cop out caz he was caught red handed. That wasn't a "choose a banner" thread. I know nobody is perfect either. RisiR had some better examples of zek's tomfoolery.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Arnox on November 01, 2014, 07:48:19 pm
Just as before, I am perfectly willing to listen if one isn't condescending, flaming, etc. And the thing is, I see no reason why I should demod her. I could go through every one of her posts I'm sure and explain how each one was just fine.
She doesn't need to go. If anything, you guys have a problem with her posting and even if she was demodded, that STILL WOULDN'T CHANGE.
Seriously, so much this:
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 01, 2014, 07:49:49 pm
Alright then. You are the boss at the end of the day.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 07:50:40 pm
Just as before, I am perfectly willing to listen if one isn't condescending, flaming, etc. And the thing is, I see no reason why I should demod her. I could go through every one of her posts I'm sure and explain how each one was just fine.
She doesn't need to go. If anything, you guys have a problem with her posting and even if she was demodded, that STILL WOULDN'T CHANGE.
Seriously, so much this:
you keep missing the point no one is saying he can't post they're saying HE HAS NO REASON TO HAVE BEEN MADE A MOD which is obviously a truth you yourself can't handle
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Slave of the Beast on November 01, 2014, 07:50:56 pm
2. The lie affected precisely NOTHING. I have looked through all her actions and have found none of them to be demod worthy and neither has my staff. And that was what really mattered. Her actions as a mod and if she followed the rules. (She did.) What difference does it really make if she was really Zek or Chuck Jones or Jeff Hunter?
No. It very effectively established that you think the users are sufficiently cretinous that you can deceive them at will and without repercussion, thereby vandalizing your own reputation and character.
3. I didn't WANT to lie but this is one of those you-can't-handle-the-truth moments as this thread so wonderfully proves. And besides, as eq said, it wasn't going to be forever. She decided to tell everyone though at the wrong time in somewhat the wrong way.
That sentence makes so little sense it borders on the delusional. As Zek has already stated, the truth was essentially already known; no grand relevation has occurred here. The only thing that confirmation of the truth proves is that we cannot tolerate the hypocrisy of being bullshitted by a moralizing admin.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Not An Alt on November 01, 2014, 08:06:18 pm
you people have to consider arnolds position, zek has already been modded and if arnox were to unmod or ban the tranny it would be perceived as weakness so he has to show the userbase how much of a 15 year old hardass alpha virgin mormon he can be.
but arno, you should have realized by now that that the tranny is a backstabbing freak.
You ordered him not to tell anyone that he's zek, and he followed your orders only to fuck you over, after what? three weeks?
if zek had any dignity to begin with, he should have told you to go screw yourself and should have openly admitted to who he is, but no, no. he has to pretend be someone else and then stabs you in the back by admitting who he is and that it was your idea to keep it a secret.
telling zek to stay an alt is stupid enough but you getting fucked in the ass by the good natured trannsexual, and nicest poster on this site, is really delicious.
the zecke truly is the model poster we should all aspire to be like.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 01, 2014, 08:08:09 pm
I could go through every one of her posts I'm sure and explain how each one was just fine.
Of course you could. You are a proven liar and manipulator, and could justify any of HIS (you dumb fuck it is HIS, not her) derailing and not give a shit in the least about the truth or your own reputation. You are still doing it now. Instead of taking accountability for your stupidity and bad decisions, you are demonizing the entire userbase now for daring having a sense of ethics and being offended that you lied to us in such a way.
We've already seen your "scorecard" Arnox. Because when you can justify(?) Zek derailing a thread for page after page after pager...and just brush it off with, "meh, it wasn't useful information or a good thread any how"....then you've already set a precedent. As well as exposed how biased you are and how nobody can trust your judgement or word about much of anything.
And you really think STILL digging your heels in and not trying to "fix this", is actually going to "end" the drama? LOL...you are STILL a naive little simpleton, because you are losing supporters with every hour....this is literally the tip of the iceberg in regards to drama if you think just "wishing it away" with empty threats is going to "fix" anything.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 01, 2014, 08:11:26 pm
you people have to consider arnolds position, zek has already been modded and if arnox were to unmod or ban the tranny it would be perceived as weakness
Actually the BEST leaders are willing to admit their mistakes and show some humbleness in front of their subordinates. The kind of thought process you just described are possessed by people that have never led anything, or are so insecure with lousy self-esteem they don't know how to handle making mistakes. People are humans, they WILL make mistakes....but when you come across anti-social weirdos with a god complex, those are the ones that can't ever admit to mistakes and own up to them.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 01, 2014, 08:14:18 pm
you people have to consider arnolds position, zek has already been modded and if arnox were to unmod or ban the tranny it would be perceived as weakness
Actually the BEST leaders are willing to admit their mistakes and show some humbleness in front of their subordinates. The kind of thought process you just described are possessed by people that have never led anything, or are so insecure with lousy self-esteem they don't know how to handle making mistakes. People are humans, they WILL make mistakes....but when you come across anti-social weirdos with a god complex, those are the ones that can't ever admit to mistakes and own up to them.
^fucking this Arnie needs to drop his Christ complex first and foremost it's the death of most badmins
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Not An Alt on November 01, 2014, 08:24:49 pm
Actually the BEST leaders are willing to admit their mistakes and show some humbleness in front of their subordinates. The kind of thought process you just described are possessed by people that have never led anything, or are so insecure with lousy self-esteem they don't know how to handle making mistakes. People are humans, they WILL make mistakes....but when you come across anti-social weirdos with a god complex, those are the ones that can't ever admit to mistakes and own up to them.
reading arnoxs posts, i think he's probably around 16 years old. And most teens just aren't able to admit their own weaknesses or mistakes. it's all a part of growing up. Just like mike said in another thread, if you call a beta (arnox) a beta, he has to prove to you how alpha he can be.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Arnox on November 01, 2014, 08:45:41 pm
Eq was made a mod because of the reasons listed as desirable qualities in the Staffing Policies thread. Simple as that. If you don't see that, I'm sorry. All of my staff were consulted and they never saw a problem with her. This goes all the way back to her modding. I stand by what I said back then.
And I'm perfectly willing to admit my mistakes. I've done so a couple times. But this wasn't a mistake.
You guys see what you want to see. And had she just kept silent instead of throwing herself to the wolves, it would have been just fine. The truth isn't that she's Zek. The truth is that I lied about her identity, quite simply. You guys seem to think the former is such a huge deal. What I DO understand though is that it's now hard for any of you to trust me. I do understand and I can't really do anything about that.
So, you guys have two choices. You can either leave or you can stay. I will understand if you want to leave. But don't waste my time trying to whine and/or troll.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 01, 2014, 08:51:44 pm
You're right. It wasn't a mistake. It was two mistakes, because you based your choice of mod off of your own preference for one (someone nice and cuddly) instead of what's best for the community. You then compounded the error by not being transparent with the community.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mark311 on November 01, 2014, 09:18:32 pm
It's a he or it not a she
Its only a matter of time before he has a meltdown and fucks everything it up. Everyone from zoklet knows this will happen its just a matter of when. It probably won't be soon because it wants to not let you down Arnox but it will happen. The users wanting it demoded aren't saying these things because they don't like it but they know that it's a really bad pick for a position of power and the user base enjoys this site and community that's why they come here.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Infinityshock on November 01, 2014, 09:46:10 pm
Eq was made a mod because of the reasons listed as desirable qualities in the Staffing Policies thread. Simple as that. If you don't see that, I'm sorry. All of my staff were consulted and they never saw a problem with her. This goes all the way back to her modding. I stand by what I said back then.
And I'm perfectly willing to admit my mistakes. I've done so a couple times. But this wasn't a mistake.
You guys see what you want to see. And had she just kept silent instead of throwing herself to the wolves, it would have been just fine. The truth isn't that she's Zek. The truth is that I lied about her identity, quite simply. You guys seem to think the former is such a huge deal. What I DO understand though is that it's now hard for any of you to trust me. I do understand and I can't really do anything about that.
So, you guys have two choices. You can either leave or you can stay. I will understand if you want to leave. But don't waste my time trying to whine and/or troll.
From two specific examples on eq I know of, you suck hardcore at selecting mods
Example 1...changing a users name Example 2...nimf-ing a thread and banning the poster for spam. The thread wasnt spam. And a preemptive fuck you to any staff that says im mistaken considering I have more admin/modding experience than all of u combined
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: BallsDeep69 on November 01, 2014, 10:57:48 pm
Eq was made a mod because of the reasons listed as desirable qualities in the Staffing Policies thread. Simple as that. If you don't see that, I'm sorry. All of my staff were consulted and they never saw a problem with her. This goes all the way back to her modding. I stand by what I said back then.
And I'm perfectly willing to admit my mistakes. I've done so a couple times. But this wasn't a mistake.
You guys see what you want to see. And had she just kept silent instead of throwing herself to the wolves, it would have been just fine. The truth isn't that she's Zek. The truth is that I lied about her identity, quite simply. You guys seem to think the former is such a huge deal. What I DO understand though is that it's now hard for any of you to trust me. I do understand and I can't really do anything about that.
So, you guys have two choices. You can either leave or you can stay. I will understand if you want to leave. But don't waste my time trying to whine and/or troll.
Ahhh so equanimity is Zek.... I see.... Welp, I don't see anything wrong with the way (s)he is doing his/her job and I really have nothing personal against... equanimity so.... Chill out guys.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mark311 on November 02, 2014, 12:22:50 am
Eq was made a mod because of the reasons listed as desirable qualities in the Staffing Policies thread. Simple as that. If you don't see that, I'm sorry. All of my staff were consulted and they never saw a problem with her. This goes all the way back to her modding. I stand by what I said back then.
And I'm perfectly willing to admit my mistakes. I've done so a couple times. But this wasn't a mistake.
You guys see what you want to see. And had she just kept silent instead of throwing herself to the wolves, it would have been just fine. The truth isn't that she's Zek. The truth is that I lied about her identity, quite simply. You guys seem to think the former is such a huge deal. What I DO understand though is that it's now hard for any of you to trust me. I do understand and I can't really do anything about that.
So, you guys have two choices. You can either leave or you can stay. I will understand if you want to leave. But don't waste my time trying to whine and/or troll.
Ahhh so equanimity is Zek.... I see.... Welp, I don't see anything wrong with the way (s)he is doing his/her job and I really have nothing personal against... equanimity so.... Chill out guys.
Be patient it will happen he will have a meltdown and screw everything up
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Zanick on November 02, 2014, 03:34:51 am
Shit, that sounds pretty reasonable. Not being familiar with Zek's modding style beforehand, I haven't really seen cause for alarm thus far. I don't think the nick really matters, but I'm trying to understand why it was felt that this required secrecy.
I first registered hoping I could just post without the boring harassment that happened on zoklet, so I was decidedly not Zek. Then when I was modded it remained a "secret" to hopefully cut down on drama. By the time RisiR outed me most of the site knew who I was regardless.
Ah, I don't think that's possible. Your style is distinctive and recognizable, they were bound to pick up on it. If it helps, Zek is not without her friends in this community.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 02, 2014, 04:23:53 am
Ah, I don't think that's possible. Your style is distinctive and recognizable, they were bound to pick up on it. If it helps, Zek is not without her friends in this community.
Suppose it is fairly distinctive. I only know how to be myself :(
And thank you. Of course she's not without friends here. It's really nice to hear it, especially when there's so much meanness being directed my way. Means a lot, Zanick :)
I don't understand why we can't just post fun things and have a good time, without all the drama.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: fanglekai on November 02, 2014, 04:30:36 am
Ah, I don't think that's possible. Your style is distinctive and recognizable, they were bound to pick up on it. If it helps, Zek is not without her friends in this community.
Suppose it is fairly distinctive. I only know how to be myself :(
And thank you. Of course she's not without friends here. It's really nice to hear it, especially when there's so much meanness being directed my way. Means a lot, Zanick :)
I don't understand why we can't just post fun things and have a good time, without all the drama.
YOU caused the drama :facepalm:
You and arnox lied to everyone. You're too fucking retarded for words.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 02, 2014, 05:03:17 am
You and arnox lied to everyone. You're too fucking retarded for words.
Aww Arnox was just doing something nice for me really. Don't blame him. And I'm sure you understand why I wanted to keep it a secret, what with the way people froth at the mouth over me. It wasn't a serious breach of trust by any stretch of the imagination.
And anyway, shhh. No more drama. Only smiles and hugs now :)
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: fanglekai on November 02, 2014, 05:09:33 am
You and arnox lied to everyone. You're too fucking retarded for words.
Aww Arnox was just doing something nice for me really. Don't blame him. And I'm sure you understand why I wanted to keep it a secret, what with the way people froth at the mouth over me. It wasn't a serious breach of trust by any stretch of the imagination.
And anyway, shhh. No more drama. Only smiles and hugs now :)
You're a stupid fucking niggerlover. How is anyone going to trust a lying piece of shit? Answer: they won't. If you had any integrity you'd quit.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 02, 2014, 07:38:04 am
Arnox and zek can go fuck themselves.
I'm sure they already planned on that tho.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mashleshmash on November 02, 2014, 07:41:04 am
Of course I'm 'Zek. The truth is, I wanted to come out with it as soon as I was modded, but Arnox thought it would result in less drama if I kept it a secret for now. He thought once things quieted down it would be a better time. Things aren't going to quiet down though. Even if I'm demoted, the drama will rage on.
Arnox, you covered Zek for long enough now. You ignored your own rules to cover Zek and therefor humiliated your whole userbase.
Instead of telling the truth you kept playing the game of "but she said herself that she is NOT Zek :rolleyes:" and kept lying to the whole fucking userbase, the internet and God fully knowing that equanimity IS Zek.
Kudos, you really fucked yourself over with this. :tup:
Totally missed this fucking thread.
I really don't know why Arnox would lie for zek. I mean, who gives a fuck if Zek is mod? :roll:
(EVERYONE but me apparently)
In fact, I'm inclined to affirm that Zek is doing a good job.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Arnox on November 02, 2014, 07:52:00 am
How is anyone going to trust a lying piece of shit?
Dude, I told her to lie. If you have a problem, it should be with me.
Well... I was lying about it before you and I had ever said a word to the other. To be fair.
Let's just say we both lied to community, so that everyone wins haha :P
But yeah. This was something really minor, and it's so crazy watching the drama get out of hand the more people talk about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_polarization
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mashleshmash on November 02, 2014, 08:14:48 am
lol I had a feeling it was you I just didn't push the subject
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 02, 2014, 08:17:49 am
Don't lie you were totally fooled.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mashleshmash on November 02, 2014, 08:27:04 am
You can only be suspicious when everyone is going "OMG IT'S ZEK!"
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 02, 2014, 08:30:58 am
Yeah but you were probably like, "What are these people talking about? 'Zek wouldn't lie; she's like a paragon of honesty and morality and whatever. And besides, this equanimity chick is way cooler than 'Zek ever was..."
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mashleshmash on November 02, 2014, 08:33:43 am
I was hoping that it was a new member but I'm content with you Zekky poo.
I feel like we're the only two members online right now
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 02, 2014, 08:37:16 am
"Content"? Ouch. Well gee, sorry for not being someone else I guess.
And yeah it's just us and the feds quietly spying.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mashleshmash on November 02, 2014, 08:37:51 am
DON'T TAKE IT THE WRONG WAY.
Or please do, it could go somewhere. 8)
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 02, 2014, 08:39:31 am
dunno what you mean go somewhere.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mashleshmash on November 02, 2014, 08:43:20 am
Oh I'm just awkwardly hitting on you over the forums since no one else has got the BALLS to do it.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 02, 2014, 08:45:19 am
lol gross.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mashleshmash on November 02, 2014, 08:47:19 am
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/53676205.jpg)
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 02, 2014, 08:48:41 am
oh god
i'm going to bed now.
quit spamming the fucking forums, mash :suspect:
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mashleshmash on November 02, 2014, 08:50:27 am
This is totally NOT spam.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: ed rush on November 02, 2014, 08:59:15 am
LOL. I knew I was going to log in and find this thread eventually. Nice fucking job Arnox. Really fucking nice.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Slave of the Beast on November 02, 2014, 09:27:11 am
How is anyone going to trust a lying piece of shit?
Dude, I told her to lie. If you have a problem, it should be with me.
And he had the choice to follow that instruction or not. It's called being complicit.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 02, 2014, 11:59:05 am
It truly is amazing how Arnox is spinning this whole thing now after the fact, making himself out to be pure and pristine and all the users that are aghast and offended by his actions as the ones that are "wrong". He has no understanding of the implications of any of this, and is trying to brush this off as some minor misunderstanding for some pseudo altruistic reasons.
I think back on the thread a few weeks ago where people were discussing if Arnox would sell us out to the cops or feds if given the chance, and now that isn't even a question any more. If he would play off this deception and ruse for something as petty and insignificant just to validate his decision on modding a toxic, derailing freakazoid when he had dozens of other actual qualified people to choose from.....then its quite clear he would sell out his own family if it meant making a nickel or protecting his own selfish interests.
And no Arnox, I ain't going anywhere any time soon....because DESPITE you and the pathetic troll/undaddy I'm going to still post and take great amusement watching the continued hypocrisy and fuckups you'll inevitably continue to perpetuate and cling to with such embarrassing and backwards pride.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 02, 2014, 01:05:11 pm
he'd rather tell people to leave than actually face facts and try to make this place worthy of decent conversations no wonder it's a fucking ghost town with that attitude
you'd rather watch an entire userbase turn against you one by one then just be a good fucking admin
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 02, 2014, 04:40:00 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/KDVhjlU.gif)
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: zok jr. on November 02, 2014, 04:42:22 pm
I'm not sure how i feel about all of this...
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 02, 2014, 04:46:37 pm
moar lyke..
(http://i.imgur.com/LfakH5n.gif)
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Slave of the Beast on November 02, 2014, 05:14:38 pm
If the mods start pulling threads apart whenever there's an off-topic post made we really run that risk of micromanaging and possibly overstepping our bounds, which some other members mentioned as concerns. Post removal might have its place, but we would do well to approach it very mindfully.
So the risks that you thought were "really" possible no longer exist, despite the mod team in question being exactly the same as it was 24 hrs ago when you made that statement.
If micromanagement is what turns you on, we can move and edit posts 'til you get yours. It wouldn't be my policy if I were Arnox, and it would cause a hopefully small amount of strife. But it's his website, and we're plenty capable of moving posts around if that becomes our job around here.
Even if that were true, it's completely irrelevant to the question; why have you fully reversed your opinion of the mod teams' abilities within the space of 24hrs?
I'm going to keep on asking this question until I get a direct answer.
This forum drama is really tiring. Don't you agree? I'm not a big fan of your leading questions, either. In the end we both want the same thing: a fun place to post and hang out with e-friends.
Is all the drama really worth it?
.... you cry to me about asking difficult questions based directly on what you've said "leading questions".
A question you still haven't answered.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 02, 2014, 05:17:45 pm
Asking difficult questions can be considered a crime against the current regime, and labeled as such. Free speech is only as good as long the person on the receiving end doesn't get too butthurt about them. Advice? Grow a thicker skin or just get the fuck out.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mizled on November 02, 2014, 05:31:49 pm
"I love it when a plan finally comes to fruition"
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 02, 2014, 07:30:37 pm
This was something really minor, and it's so crazy watching the drama get out of hand the more people talk about it.
If you really wanted the drama to end, you would step down from the moderator position. Simple question for you, why do you HAVE to be a moderator on here any how? If all you really want to do is "mess around" on here, you can still do that to your heart's content as a poster. Why is it so vital for you to maintain some sense of "control" over eveyrone else's experience on here?
You step down, you still post, very little drama left. You maintain modship, you still post, only drama left is you whining when the other mods infract you for your constant derailing. If you really wanted LESS drama, you would do the right thing. But everyone knows those are empty words above, because your attention whoring agenda is ALL this is about.
And it wasn't "something minor". It was a lie, deception, and severe manipulation that lasted for several weeks. With a very immature and disruptive agenda behind that deception. All over the rhetoric of "herp, derp. I was doing an experiment"....and coddling both of your very fragile and backwards egos. If there was any bigger picture, long term goal that could have benefitted the ENTIRE userbase over lies and manipulation it might have some "purpose" in theory. But it didn't, it was all about the 2 of you playing games and betraying the entire website. Period.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 03, 2014, 01:15:09 pm
This was something really minor, and it's so crazy watching the drama get out of hand the more people talk about it.
If you really wanted the drama to end, you would step down from the moderator position. Simple question for you, why do you HAVE to be a moderator on here any how? If all you really want to do is "mess around" on here, you can still do that to your heart's content as a poster. Why is it so vital for you to maintain some sense of "control" over eveyrone else's experience on here?
You step down, you still post, very little drama left. You maintain modship, you still post, only drama left is you whining when the other mods infract you for your constant derailing. If you really wanted LESS drama, you would do the right thing. But everyone knows those are empty words above, because your attention whoring agenda is ALL this is about.
And it wasn't "something minor". It was a lie, deception, and severe manipulation that lasted for several weeks. With a very immature and disruptive agenda behind that deception. All over the rhetoric of "herp, derp. I was doing an experiment"....and coddling both of your very fragile and backwards egos. If there was any bigger picture, long term goal that could have benefitted the ENTIRE userbase over lies and manipulation it might have some "purpose" in theory. But it didn't, it was all about the 2 of you playing games and betraying the entire website. Period.
lol you really care if ol zekky is mod? :roll:
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 03, 2014, 01:35:46 pm
At this point, it would most probably be best to offset things by creating mods for individual forums and adding users like DaGuru and Slave of the Beast and Ed Rush and Spectre and fang and some other more serious users as mod/leaders of those boards, while eliminating the global mod position altogether. That's your best bet. Anything else and the drama will continue and many will end up banned, and that in itself is more a threat to the stability of the community than anything else. So what if they're not really needed.. it enables the board to be ran by different mentalities, which adds variety and stability and allows all sides to have their say in the running of the BBS.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mashleshmash on November 03, 2014, 01:40:38 pm
I think individual forum mods is a good thing but the forum is too small right now.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 03, 2014, 01:50:42 pm
Well, with the literal army of mods, there's very little chance sock puppets, CP and PI will prosper for more than a few minutes. In that case, registration could be safety and confidently opened again.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mashleshmash on November 03, 2014, 01:57:35 pm
Good point
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 03, 2014, 02:30:46 pm
I thought Zoklet seemed kinda sad there near the end, with half the names in the list being bold. Who would you guys pick to mod each forum, though?
Slave for humanities Zanick religion Lanny tech place Jerome and Mash you guys can do SG together. More traffic and she's around less Σ could maybe do the news place or something CFL for HB
Dunno who else.
oh and daguru is banned xD
jk DaGuru <3
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: zok jr. on November 03, 2014, 03:21:01 pm
I thought Zoklet seemed kinda sad there near the end, with half the names in the list being bold. Who would you guys pick to mod each forum, though?
Slave for humanities Zanick religion Lanny tech place Jerome and Mash you guys can do SG together. More traffic and she's around less Σ could maybe do the news place or something CFL for HB
Dunno who else.
oh and daguru is banned xD
jk DaGuru <3
Nobody that modded on zoklet should be able to mod here because they were all terrible. This place is supposed to be a fresh start why bring the same regime back.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Evan on November 03, 2014, 04:41:26 pm
It is really bad to rethrone terrorists and fascists and mentally-ill, the constipated.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Slave of the Beast on November 03, 2014, 05:57:56 pm
I thought Zoklet seemed kinda sad there near the end, with half the names in the list being bold. Who would you guys pick to mod each forum, though?
Slave for humanities Zanick religion Lanny tech place Jerome and Mash you guys can do SG together. More traffic and she's around less Σ could maybe do the news place or something CFL for HB
Dunno who else.
oh and daguru is banned xD
jk DaGuru <3
Nobody that modded on zoklet should be able to mod here because they were all terrible. This place is supposed to be a fresh start why bring the same regime back.
Out of curiosity, why was I "terrible"?
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Evan on November 03, 2014, 06:04:09 pm
And which board did BeastSlav have lordship over? Memory evades Ivan.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: kroz on November 03, 2014, 06:26:40 pm
all you guys are gay...
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: kroz on November 03, 2014, 06:47:07 pm
lol i just got an infraction for SAYing you guys are gay "off topic spam" it was actually very on topic
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Evan on November 03, 2014, 06:55:23 pm
Highly deserved, due to poor grammer. Faggot.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Arnox on November 03, 2014, 07:02:15 pm
And which board did BeastSlav have lordship over? Memory evades Ivan.
Conspiracy and SotD on Totse and Zoklet.
I stepped down as a mod of Zoklet several years ago when the outcome for the site became inevitable. I gave no explanation at the time because there's only so long you can piss into the wind before the laundry bill becomes financially crippling.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 03, 2014, 07:47:09 pm
And which board did BeastSlav have lordship over? Memory evades Ivan.
Conspiracy and SotD on Totse and Zoklet.
I stepped down as a mod of Zoklet several years ago when the outcome for the site became inevitable. I gave no explanation at the time because there's only so long you can piss into the wind before the laundry bill becomes financially crippling.
Was it because your fellow mods were banning everyone, or another reason? Curious. And I thought you modded the humanities forum? Wonder why I have that wrong.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 03, 2014, 09:03:15 pm
I thought Zoklet seemed kinda sad there near the end, with half the names in the list being bold. Who would you guys pick to mod each forum, though?
Slave for humanities Zanick religion Lanny tech place Jerome and Mash you guys can do SG together. More traffic and she's around less Σ could maybe do the news place or something CFL for HB
Dunno who else.
oh and daguru is banned xD
jk DaGuru <3
Yeah, well, if you'd been keeping score you'd know that Lanny is unsuitable for any staff position, being a known and chronic PI-rat. Zanick already sold out to the hive mentality on Zoklet, so there's no reason to trust him with any kind of authority.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 03, 2014, 09:06:38 pm
I thought Zoklet seemed kinda sad there near the end, with half the names in the list being bold. Who would you guys pick to mod each forum, though?
Slave for humanities Zanick religion Lanny tech place Jerome and Mash you guys can do SG together. More traffic and she's around less Σ could maybe do the news place or something CFL for HB
Dunno who else.
oh and daguru is banned xD
jk DaGuru <3
Nobody that modded on zoklet should be able to mod here because they were all terrible. This place is supposed to be a fresh start why bring the same regime back.
Out of curiosity, why was I "terrible"?
You weren't terrible. Zok jr. is just a mindless imbecile who has no clue who would make a great staff member. Just talks right out of his ass 99% of the time and causes more problems than solutions..
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 03, 2014, 09:12:39 pm
I thought Zoklet seemed kinda sad there near the end, with half the names in the list being bold. Who would you guys pick to mod each forum, though?
Slave for humanities Zanick religion Lanny tech place Jerome and Mash you guys can do SG together. More traffic and she's around less Σ could maybe do the news place or something CFL for HB
Dunno who else.
oh and daguru is banned xD
jk DaGuru <3
-cringe-
Way to ignore the question. Why MUST you be a mod? Are you so full of yourself that you think this place NEEDS you as a mod despite the hatred and drama that you elicit?
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Arnox on November 03, 2014, 09:18:03 pm
Way to ignore the question. Why MUST you be a mod? Are you so full of yourself that you think this place NEEDS you as a mod despite the hatred and drama that you elicit?
People are promoted based on merit here. Not out of need. Just saiyan.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Slave of the Beast on November 03, 2014, 09:21:01 pm
Was it because your fellow mods were banning everyone,...
The infraction system was over used/abused by a significant number of mods. Despite this reflecting badly on the entire team, the mods as a group never 'banned everyone'.
By accumulation I've written a small pamphlet on this topic, I'm not going to go through more of the same. Suffice to say Zok tried to build a culture around himself that ultimately served a few and fucked over many. When I realized, far too late TBH, that his position was never going to change I left his staff.
And I thought you modded the humanities forum? Wonder why I have that wrong.
This is quite understandable. Numerous reports have indicated my presence as a poster can be felt from several forums away. This feeling usually manifests itself in an inexplicable desire to kill something cute and harmless; puppies, kittens, the occasional small child.
I do feel guilty about it sometimes.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 03, 2014, 09:22:28 pm
I don't see the merits.. granted it is not my decision and I have no idea what criteria you based the decision on. Still, he is obviously FAKE FAKE FAKE and I don't just mean his half man half female body.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 03, 2014, 09:22:54 pm
Way to ignore the question. Why MUST you be a mod? Are you so full of yourself that you think this place NEEDS you as a mod despite the hatred and drama that you elicit?
Yes, you all need me. I'm the glue that holds Sanctuary together. Were it not for me moving your threads around and banning everyone this place would fall to pieces.
But it's okay. You really don't have to thank me. Serving the community is its own reward (http://www.smilies.be/k/katten/6112.gif)
This is quite understandable. Numerous reports have indicated my presence as a poster can be felt from several forums away. This feeling usually manifests itself in an inexplicable desire to kill something cute and harmless; puppies, kittens, the occasional small child.
I do feel guilty about it sometimes.
Oh, but that's... :(
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 03, 2014, 09:28:51 pm
Way to ignore the question. Why MUST you be a mod? Are you so full of yourself that you think this place NEEDS you as a mod despite the hatred and drama that you elicit?
Yes, you all need me. I'm the glue that holds Sanctuary together. Were it not for me moving your threads around and banning everyone this place would fall to pieces.
But it's okay. You really don't have to thank me. Serving the community is its own reward (http://www.smilies.be/k/katten/6112.gif)
This is quite understandable. Numerous reports have indicated my presence as a poster can be felt from several forums away. This feeling usually manifests itself in an inexplicable desire to kill something cute and harmless; puppies, kittens, the occasional small child.
I do feel guilty about it sometimes.
Oh, but that's... :(
-cringe-
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Arnox on November 03, 2014, 09:29:22 pm
I don't see the merits.. granted it is not my decision and I have no idea what criteria you based the decision on. Still, he is obviously FAKE FAKE FAKE and I don't just mean his half man half female body.
Even if she was, I can reverse pretty much anything she does anyway so once again, even if she does crack or something, it's no big deal.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 03, 2014, 09:37:33 pm
Arnox has nothing but the highest confidence in me, I'm sure.
:P
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 03, 2014, 09:51:14 pm
See sig.
Will be waiting for that self destruction.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 03, 2014, 10:31:07 pm
Yes, you all need me. I'm the glue that holds Sanctuary together. Were it not for me moving your threads around and banning everyone this place would fall to pieces.
But it's okay. You really don't have to thank me. Serving the community is its own reward
You seem to be reveling in all the attention.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: zok jr. on November 04, 2014, 03:23:37 am
I thought Zoklet seemed kinda sad there near the end, with half the names in the list being bold. Who would you guys pick to mod each forum, though?
Slave for humanities Zanick religion Lanny tech place Jerome and Mash you guys can do SG together. More traffic and she's around less Σ could maybe do the news place or something CFL for HB
Dunno who else.
oh and daguru is banned xD
jk DaGuru <3
Nobody that modded on zoklet should be able to mod here because they were all terrible. This place is supposed to be a fresh start why bring the same regime back.
Out of curiosity, why was I "terrible"?
i don't really remember your as a mod but I'm pretty sure you are spectral considering your always post in the same thread within a minute or two of each other
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: aldra on November 04, 2014, 04:40:40 am
nah, pretty sure the real SotB is back. Spectral had his account for a while on zoklet, but they seem to have fairly distinct posting styles nowadays.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: fanglekai on November 04, 2014, 05:44:32 am
Way to ignore the question. Why MUST you be a mod? Are you so full of yourself that you think this place NEEDS you as a mod despite the hatred and drama that you elicit?
People are promoted based on merit here. Not out of need. Just saiyan.
Link to examples of zek showing his merit on here. Since you can't we know you're full of shit. Also stop calling zek she.
I sent idio a pm that it seems he ignored. This site is going to fail within a couple months and it's all your fault. Congrats, Arnox. You'll be easy-e #2.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: komokazi on November 04, 2014, 05:55:47 am
This shit is just fuckin' rich.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Slave of the Beast on November 04, 2014, 09:39:53 am
i don't really remember your as a mod but I'm pretty sure you are spectral...
If you're blind to posting styles I suppose that's plausible. I'm surprised you haven't thrown DaGuru into the mix; he's a perennial favourite in the Ed Rush-Daguru-SotB-Spectral character roleplaying game.
nah, pretty sure the real SotB is back. Spectral had his account for a while on zoklet, but they seem to have fairly distinct posting styles nowadays.
For the record Spectral has never had control of any of my SotB accounts. I had to go to the lengths of posting a video from Trafalgar Square, London, in order to demonstrate to some of the retards on Zok's staff who I was after Yggdrasil infracted me, without any justification, for being an alt. To their credit the admins (Mizled and Waterbottle) supported me.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 04, 2014, 10:43:44 am
Like I said, Zok Jr. is a retard, just like his father.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: zok jr. on November 04, 2014, 03:27:01 pm
People are promoted based on merit here. Not out of need. Just saiyan.
And you STILL (after all these weeks) haven't given even one example of Zek's "merit".....and instead continue to fall on the crutch of "he's a nice guy".
InB4 "I'm tired of this conversation" despite the fact he's never even engaged in it yet. :facepalm:
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 04, 2014, 09:08:08 pm
"Oh come on Daguru I'm not that bad. Do you need a hug? :P"
^ zek response
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Arnox on November 04, 2014, 09:16:36 pm
And you STILL (after all these weeks) haven't given even one example of Zek's "merit".....and instead continue to fall on the crutch of "he's a nice guy".
InB4 "I'm tired of this conversation" despite the fact he's never even engaged in it yet. :facepalm:
I don't feel like wasting my time and I'm not going to go through every single post that eq has made. You and a couple others are determined to hate her and not listen to me. You guys aren't looking for a different perspective. You guys are looking for something you can argue about. Sorry, I got better things to do.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 04, 2014, 09:35:06 pm
And you STILL (after all these weeks) haven't given even one example of Zek's "merit".....and instead continue to fall on the crutch of "he's a nice guy".
InB4 "I'm tired of this conversation" despite the fact he's never even engaged in it yet. :facepalm:
I don't feel like wasting my time and I'm not going to go through every single post that eq has made. You and a couple others are determined to hate her and not listen to me. You guys aren't looking for a different perspective. You guys are looking for something you can argue about. Sorry, I got better things to do.
You sure told us. ;)
Errr... only problem with that scenario is it ain't just them.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Umbrella Corp on November 04, 2014, 09:37:59 pm
It looks like you are the one who won't listen.
When you insist Zek was modded based on "merit" but can't give a single example.. there has to be a reason, like a certain post or trend that made you mod him. Or he's a friend n u asked him to help out?
What is it about zek that you modded him for?
We can come up with many examples of zek being immature, unprofessional and just an immoral shitty person, without even trying let alone "going thru all of his posts"
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 04, 2014, 10:03:37 pm
And you STILL (after all these weeks) haven't given even one example of Zek's "merit".....and instead continue to fall on the crutch of "he's a nice guy".
InB4 "I'm tired of this conversation" despite the fact he's never even engaged in it yet. :facepalm:
I don't feel like wasting my time and I'm not going to go through every single post that eq has made. You and a couple others are determined to hate her and not listen to me. You guys aren't looking for a different perspective. You guys are looking for something you can argue about. Sorry, I got better things to do.
The outrageous sense of self importance in your responses are so telling "you guys can't handle the truth" "It was an experiment" "I don't have to provide any evidence to refute the piles of evidence users bring up" " I don't feel like wasting my time"
you have the reasoning and common sense of a wet sponge you are even worse than easy-e
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 04, 2014, 10:06:08 pm
Alright then. We throw Zek into the active volcano. Problem solved. We can use mizled for the hungry lions next month.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 04, 2014, 10:09:38 pm
I don't feel like wasting my time and I'm not going to go through every single post that eq has made. You and a couple others are determined to hate her and not listen to me. You guys aren't looking for a different perspective. You guys are looking for something you can argue about. Sorry, I got better things to do.
As expected! :D
What's funny is this is your pat answer every time it has been asked these last few weeks. And its one of the biggest reasons (if not THE biggest reason) you've lost the trust and respect of much of the userbase. We aren't asking you to go through Zek's posts, instead back your own words. Here is quick summary of how all of this evolved....
-In the site FAQ, and in followup conversations you discuss the "standards" and "quality" a poster must have for mod consideration....things such as "professionalism", "stability", and "fairness". -You then decide to mod Zek, who in the eyes of most of the userbase is the antithesis of all that. -When asked why was he modded when he possesses NONE of the previous qualities, your blase response is "cuz he is nice" -Plenty of people ask you what "Being nice" has anything relevant to the original prerequisites. -Your response to that is..."I don't have time to get into it, I don't have to explain myself"
Rinse/repeat the last 3 steps for literally weeks.
Exactly when the fuck are you going to understand, the reason people keep asking you the question....is because it IS a legitimate inquiry, and many of us DO care about the bigger picture/long term future of this place thriving. And when you GO AGAINST YOUR OWN WORD, not only are you betraying yourself, but the website as a whole along with common sense.
But hey, you keep playing this pissing match game that you keep thinking you'll eventually win..... and every time keep acting this way, you are only turning more of the website against you, along with tainting the relevancy and sincerity of everything you've ever said.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 04, 2014, 10:14:28 pm
The way I look at it, no matter what the amount of opposition, Arnox can't just demod Zek now that he's already committed to the decision and Zek is now a mod.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Fuck Shit Stack on November 04, 2014, 10:18:50 pm
zek is a suicidal tranny who got his wife and kids taken by another totse member, then stuck a coat hanger up his ass and decided to be a woman after posting "I'm depressed" a million times and tried to kill himself, got addicted to heroin, is completely incapable of functioning in society due to character weakness, not any "le fringe" quality, because he's a weird, weak tranny.
and Arnox says "hey, this really speaks to the low IQ mormon dragon in me, I want to give that abomination a position of limited authority on a message board made up of people who came here by default and already know his story and revile/laugh at him for it"
seriously, Arnox, I have to believe you're just being stubborn. Not that it really matters, this website sucks a bag of dicks and is only going to get worse. You're retarded and incompetent and being stubborn to make it seem like you think you made the right decision but I have to believe that deep down, you know it was retarded, and that you yourself and pretty retarded but you don't want to be told what to do by people who are smarter than you because that's probably the whole reason why you made this fucking website in the first place isn't it?
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Spectre on November 04, 2014, 10:21:34 pm
seriously, Arnox, I have to believe you're just being stubborn. Not that it really matters, this website sucks a bag of dicks and is only going to get worse. You're retarded and incompetent and being stubborn to make it seem like you think you made the right decision but I have to believe that deep down, you know it was retarded, and that you yourself and pretty retarded but you don't want to be told what to do by people who are smarter than you because that's probably the whole reason why you made this fucking website in the first place isn't it?
the accuracy of this post is outrageous 10/10 intuition
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mark311 on November 04, 2014, 10:25:00 pm
In all fairness I'm not sure if Arnox knows about zek's history. I mean of all people from zoklet to become a mod you really did pick one of the worst in the entire history of the Internet.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Arnox on November 04, 2014, 10:36:26 pm
Seriously, I want a reason, guys. Do you all really want to talk or are you just going to look for points of argument in an endless loop against her?
Also keep in mind that if you want to have her demodded, you need to provide specific examples of mod abuse. And no, that deal with the poll/name changing with RisiR hardly counts.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mark311 on November 04, 2014, 10:44:55 pm
Seriously, I want a reason, guys. Do you all really want to talk or are you just going to look for points of argument in an endless loop against her?
Also keep in mind that if you want to have her demodded, you need to provide specific examples of mod abuse. And no, that deal with the poll/name changing with RisiR hardly counts.
Just out of curiosity do you know zek's history of posting on zoklet? Everything will be fine for now and maybe a month or two but he will show his true self.
On a positive note I've never seen just about everyone in the community agree and be united to this extent.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Arnox on November 04, 2014, 10:49:08 pm
Just out of curiosity do you know zek's history of posting on zoklet? Everything will be fine for now and maybe a month or two but he will show his true self.
Nope. I was never on Zoklet as a matter of fact.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Bart the General on November 04, 2014, 10:59:50 pm
Just out of curiosity do you know zek's history of posting on zoklet? Everything will be fine for now and maybe a month or two but he will show his true self.
Nope. I was never on Zoklet as a matter of fact.
see, this could have been a good thing but you just make stupid mistakes. There were like 2 people posting here before people came by default from zoklet, it's safe to say this website wasn't going anywhere and instead of allowing your IQ to be boosted a few points, you try to lower everyone elses to confront your mormon dragon paradigm, the only person who doesn't laugh at it is a shitposting tranny so you decide to let that set the posting/moderation standard. When confronted with this fact you don't backpedal because you're too insecure to admit when you're wrong so you just act really fucking weird about it
Seriously, There have been more threads about how shitty zek is and how he shouldn't be a mod and how poorly it reflects on the website than there are threads with "content."
Can you add 2 + 2 and admit the answer you reached?
No one wants zek to be a mod. There are people who don't care and that's fine but literally no one goes "yeah, a fucking tranny who abandoned his kids and stuck a curtain rod up his ass after convincing a girl to commit suicide, that's the kinda forum I wanna contribute information to and develop!" because that's an absolutely insane way of thinking.
Arnox
I have to believe you are smarter than this. You've proven me wrong before though but this is fucking grade 2 public (non mormon) school shit.
Do the right (non transsexual) thing
Nobody wants zek to be a mod. Probably not even you, you just don't like the alternative. Man the fuck up and do what you know you should have done a long time ago
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Infinityshock on November 04, 2014, 11:02:09 pm
Seriously, I want a reason, guys. Do you all really want to talk or are you just going to look for points of argument in an endless loop against her?
Also keep in mind that if you want to have her demodded, you need to provide specific examples of mod abuse. And no, that deal with the poll/name changing with RisiR hardly counts.
The hell it doesn't count. That is an example of abuse of 'authority'...pure and simple. He/she/it said he/she/it realizes it was a fuckup and perhaps it can be overlooked, baring any further mod-tardery, however it is a telling insight into his/her/its mental state and ability to handle to 'authority'...or lack of ability
You saying it doesn't count minimizes the seriousness of it
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: BallsDeep69 on November 04, 2014, 11:05:15 pm
Okey dokey.... Since y'all are beating seven shades of shit outa equanimity and Ol' Arnox over here, let's just say it this way. First off, this is NOT Totse. This is NOT Zoklet. Whatever equanimity did over there as his/her time as Zek, it's in the past. It's on a dead website, months ago. I know y'all don't want to see a "Fresh Start 2.0" but Arnox is RIGHT. It IS a fresh start. Completely new website, and (mostly) old members. If you're gonna bitch about a 10 min name change, well looks like you've won the "Biggest Prat of 2014" Award RisiR, because it didn't affect you, it was for shits n giggles, you wern't banned, they apologised and you should've gotten over it.
Secondly, does it really matter that equanimity and Arnox chose to keep "Zek" under wraps? Hell, if I had a reputation like that I'd want to get a fresh start on a new forum, using my old username would've been, well not suicide, but.... It certainly wouldn't help one's reputation. I personally think that all the people Arnox has chosen do a fairly good job and when they muck around, it's all in fun.
TLDR: Stop bitching, it's unnecererally time consuming and a major put-down.
-Balls :picard:
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Infinityshock on November 04, 2014, 11:05:44 pm
Just out of curiosity do you know zek's history of posting on zoklet? Everything will be fine for now and maybe a month or two but he will show his true self.
Nope. I was never on Zoklet as a matter of fact.
see, this could have been a good thing but you just make stupid mistakes. There were like 2 people posting here before people came by default from zoklet, it's safe to say this website wasn't going anywhere and instead of allowing your IQ to be boosted a few points, you try to lower everyone elses to confront your mormon dragon paradigm, the only person who doesn't laugh at it is a shitposting tranny so you decide to let that set the posting/moderation standard. When confronted with this fact you don't backpedal because you're too insecure to admit when you're wrong so you just act really fucking weird about it
Seriously, There have been more threads about how shitty zek is and how he shouldn't be a mod and how poorly it reflects on the website than there are threads with "content."
Can you add 2 + 2 and admit the answer you reached?
No one wants zek to be a mod. There are people who don't care and that's fine but literally no one goes "yeah, a fucking tranny who abandoned his kids and stuck a curtain rod up his ass after convincing a girl to commit suicide, that's the kinda forum I wanna contribute information to and develop!" because that's an absolutely insane way of thinking.
Arnox
I have to believe you are smarter than this. You've proven me wrong before though but this is fucking grade 2 public (non mormon) school shit.
Do the right (non transsexual) thing
Nobody wants zek to be a mod. Probably not even you, you just don't like the alternative. Man the fuck up and do what you know you should have done a long time ago
Actually...the curtain rod enema and that other shit is hilarious. Those antics are the perfect qualifiers to mod this sort of site.
Out of curiosity....why doesn't anyone want equ-whatever to be a mod?
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: BallsDeep69 on November 04, 2014, 11:07:46 pm
Just out of curiosity do you know zek's history of posting on zoklet? Everything will be fine for now and maybe a month or two but he will show his true self.
Nope. I was never on Zoklet as a matter of fact.
see, this could have been a good thing but you just make stupid mistakes. There were like 2 people posting here before people came by default from zoklet, it's safe to say this website wasn't going anywhere and instead of allowing your IQ to be boosted a few points, you try to lower everyone elses to confront your mormon dragon paradigm, the only person who doesn't laugh at it is a shitposting tranny so you decide to let that set the posting/moderation standard. When confronted with this fact you don't backpedal because you're too insecure to admit when you're wrong so you just act really fucking weird about it
Seriously, There have been more threads about how shitty zek is and how he shouldn't be a mod and how poorly it reflects on the website than there are threads with "content."
Can you add 2 + 2 and admit the answer you reached?
No one wants zek to be a mod. There are people who don't care and that's fine but literally no one goes "yeah, a fucking tranny who abandoned his kids and stuck a curtain rod up his ass after convincing a girl to commit suicide, that's the kinda forum I wanna contribute information to and develop!" because that's an absolutely insane way of thinking.
Arnox
I have to believe you are smarter than this. You've proven me wrong before though but this is fucking grade 2 public (non mormon) school shit.
Do the right (non transsexual) thing
Nobody wants zek to be a mod. Probably not even you, you just don't like the alternative. Man the fuck up and do what you know you should have done a long time ago
Actually...the curtain rod enema and that other shit is hilarious. Those antics are the perfect qualifiers to mod this sort of site.
Out of curiosity....why doesn't anyone want equ-whatever to be a mod?
Because he's Zek.... :picard:
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Infinityshock on November 04, 2014, 11:15:04 pm
Just out of curiosity do you know zek's history of posting on zoklet? Everything will be fine for now and maybe a month or two but he will show his true self.
Nope. I was never on Zoklet as a matter of fact.
see, this could have been a good thing but you just make stupid mistakes. There were like 2 people posting here before people came by default from zoklet, it's safe to say this website wasn't going anywhere and instead of allowing your IQ to be boosted a few points, you try to lower everyone elses to confront your mormon dragon paradigm, the only person who doesn't laugh at it is a shitposting tranny so you decide to let that set the posting/moderation standard. When confronted with this fact you don't backpedal because you're too insecure to admit when you're wrong so you just act really fucking weird about it
Seriously, There have been more threads about how shitty zek is and how he shouldn't be a mod and how poorly it reflects on the website than there are threads with "content."
Can you add 2 + 2 and admit the answer you reached?
No one wants zek to be a mod. There are people who don't care and that's fine but literally no one goes "yeah, a fucking tranny who abandoned his kids and stuck a curtain rod up his ass after convincing a girl to commit suicide, that's the kinda forum I wanna contribute information to and develop!" because that's an absolutely insane way of thinking.
Arnox
I have to believe you are smarter than this. You've proven me wrong before though but this is fucking grade 2 public (non mormon) school shit.
Do the right (non transsexual) thing
Nobody wants zek to be a mod. Probably not even you, you just don't like the alternative. Man the fuck up and do what you know you should have done a long time ago
Actually...the curtain rod enema and that other shit is hilarious. Those antics are the perfect qualifiers to mod this sort of site.
Out of curiosity....why doesn't anyone want equ-whatever to be a mod?
Because he's Zek.... :picard:
That means nothing. Ive never been on cocklet, much less have any idea what his antics were there
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: BallsDeep69 on November 04, 2014, 11:16:50 pm
Just out of curiosity do you know zek's history of posting on zoklet? Everything will be fine for now and maybe a month or two but he will show his true self.
Nope. I was never on Zoklet as a matter of fact.
see, this could have been a good thing but you just make stupid mistakes. There were like 2 people posting here before people came by default from zoklet, it's safe to say this website wasn't going anywhere and instead of allowing your IQ to be boosted a few points, you try to lower everyone elses to confront your mormon dragon paradigm, the only person who doesn't laugh at it is a shitposting tranny so you decide to let that set the posting/moderation standard. When confronted with this fact you don't backpedal because you're too insecure to admit when you're wrong so you just act really fucking weird about it
Seriously, There have been more threads about how shitty zek is and how he shouldn't be a mod and how poorly it reflects on the website than there are threads with "content."
Can you add 2 + 2 and admit the answer you reached?
No one wants zek to be a mod. There are people who don't care and that's fine but literally no one goes "yeah, a fucking tranny who abandoned his kids and stuck a curtain rod up his ass after convincing a girl to commit suicide, that's the kinda forum I wanna contribute information to and develop!" because that's an absolutely insane way of thinking.
Arnox
I have to believe you are smarter than this. You've proven me wrong before though but this is fucking grade 2 public (non mormon) school shit.
Do the right (non transsexual) thing
Nobody wants zek to be a mod. Probably not even you, you just don't like the alternative. Man the fuck up and do what you know you should have done a long time ago
Actually...the curtain rod enema and that other shit is hilarious. Those antics are the perfect qualifiers to mod this sort of site.
Out of curiosity....why doesn't anyone want equ-whatever to be a mod?
Because he's Zek.... :picard:
That means nothing. Ive never been on cocklet, much less have any idea what his antics were there
Zek apparently was suicidal, hated his kids and was a general nigger. No offence.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: equanimity on November 04, 2014, 11:18:04 pm
C'mon, guys. We're all adults here, and we have better things to do than be angry on the internet. I dunno what kind of life you think I must live, but it's pretty average. I'm a student and I work off and on as a CNA, full time in the summers. Cook a lot, and keep a relatively clean home. Don't have a rape dungeon or corpse shed. Enjoy reading, yoga and video games.
If you want me removed from the mod team, make a real case (respectfully) and PM it to Arnox and myself. The equivalent of showing up to a town hall meeting drunk and shouting about irrelevant things is not the way to get something done. No one is going to take you seriously.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: dragqueen slayer on November 04, 2014, 11:18:36 pm
Okey dokey.... Since y'all are beating seven shades of shit outa equanimity and Ol' Arnox over here, let's just say it this way. First off, this is NOT Totse. This is NOT Zoklet. Whatever equanimity did over there as his/her time as Zek, it's in the past. It's on a dead website, months ago. I know y'all don't want to see a "Fresh Start 2.0" but Arnox is RIGHT. It IS a fresh start. Completely new website, and (mostly) old members. If you're gonna bitch about a 10 min name change, well looks like you've won the "Biggest Prat of 2014" Award RisiR, because it didn't affect you, it was for shits n giggles, you wern't banned, they apologised and you should've gotten over it.
Secondly, does it really matter that equanimity and Arnox chose to keep "Zek" under wraps? Hell, if I had a reputation like that I'd want to get a fresh start on a new forum, using my old username would've been, well not suicide, but.... It certainly wouldn't help one's reputation. I personally think that all the people Arnox has chosen do a fairly good job and when they muck around, it's all in fun.
TLDR: Stop bitching, it's unnecererally time consuming and a major put-down.
-Balls :picard:
Shut the fuck up Infrared, I can find pictures of you in 3.5 seconds
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: BallsDeep69 on November 04, 2014, 11:19:12 pm
C'mon, guys. We're all adults here, and we have better things to do than be angry on the internet. I dunno what kind of life you think I must live, but it's pretty average. I'm a student and I work off and on as a CNA, full time in the summers. Cook a lot, and keep a relatively clean home. Don't have a rape dungeon or corpse shed. Enjoy reading, yoga and video games.
If you want me removed from the mod team, make a real case (respectfully) and PM it to Arnox and myself. The equivalent of showing up to a town hall meeting drunk and shouting about irrelevant things is not the way to get something done. No one is going to take you seriously.
FINALLY SOMEONE MADE SENSE ON THIS THREAD!
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Infinityshock on November 04, 2014, 11:20:39 pm
Okey dokey.... Since y'all are beating seven shades of shit outa equanimity and Ol' Arnox over here, let's just say it this way. First off, this is NOT Totse. This is NOT Zoklet. Whatever equanimity did over there as his/her time as Zek, it's in the past. It's on a dead website, months ago. I know y'all don't want to see a "Fresh Start 2.0" but Arnox is RIGHT. It IS a fresh start. Completely new website, and (mostly) old members. If you're gonna bitch about a 10 min name change, well looks like you've won the "Biggest Prat of 2014" Award RisiR, because it didn't affect you, it was for shits n giggles, you wern't banned, they apologised and you should've gotten over it.
Secondly, does it really matter that equanimity and Arnox chose to keep "Zek" under wraps? Hell, if I had a reputation like that I'd want to get a fresh start on a new forum, using my old username would've been, well not suicide, but.... It certainly wouldn't help one's reputation. I personally think that all the people Arnox has chosen do a fairly good job and when they muck around, it's all in fun.
TLDR: Stop bitching, it's unnecererally time consuming and a major put-down.
-Balls :picard:
Youre a member of the clueless crew when it comes to the name change. There are certain rules of etiquette that are universal within the internet and have been in effect since the first DOS bbs...using staff-only tools in an inappropriate manner is unacceptable. An unwarranted name change would be a de-modding offense on any semi-sane board. Here, spamming is a bannable offense but not inappropriate use of mod tools....
For arnie to minimize the seriousness of the offense goes to show how clueless he is. At this point it'd me more appropriate for him to be given punitive measures for encouraging it
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: dragqueen slayer on November 04, 2014, 11:20:58 pm
C'mon, guys. We're all adults here, and we have better things to do than be angry on the internet. I dunno what kind of life you think I must live, but it's pretty average. I'm a student and I work off and on as a CNA, full time in the summers. Cook a lot, and keep a relatively clean home. Don't have a rape dungeon or corpse shed. Enjoy reading, yoga and video games.
If you want me removed from the mod team, make a real case (respectfully) and PM it to Arnox and myself. The equivalent of showing up to a town hall meeting drunk and shouting about irrelevant things is not the way to get something done. No one is going to take you seriously.
FINALLY SOMEONE MADE SENSE ON THIS THREAD!
*cringe*
confirmed for infrared
kill yourself ugly
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: BallsDeep69 on November 04, 2014, 11:22:18 pm
C'mon, guys. We're all adults here, and we have better things to do than be angry on the internet. I dunno what kind of life you think I must live, but it's pretty average. I'm a student and I work off and on as a CNA, full time in the summers. Cook a lot, and keep a relatively clean home. Don't have a rape dungeon or corpse shed. Enjoy reading, yoga and video games.
If you want me removed from the mod team, make a real case (respectfully) and PM it to Arnox and myself. The equivalent of showing up to a town hall meeting drunk and shouting about irrelevant things is not the way to get something done. No one is going to take you seriously.
FINALLY SOMEONE MADE SENSE ON THIS THREAD!
*cringe*
confirmed for infrared
kill yourself ugly
I am Balls. I am the definition of beautiful. I shall kill no person. Except for Splooge maybe.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Infinityshock on November 04, 2014, 11:24:37 pm
Just out of curiosity do you know zek's history of posting on zoklet? Everything will be fine for now and maybe a month or two but he will show his true self.
Nope. I was never on Zoklet as a matter of fact.
see, this could have been a good thing but you just make stupid mistakes. There were like 2 people posting here before people came by default from zoklet, it's safe to say this website wasn't going anywhere and instead of allowing your IQ to be boosted a few points, you try to lower everyone elses to confront your mormon dragon paradigm, the only person who doesn't laugh at it is a shitposting tranny so you decide to let that set the posting/moderation standard. When confronted with this fact you don't backpedal because you're too insecure to admit when you're wrong so you just act really fucking weird about it
Seriously, There have been more threads about how shitty zek is and how he shouldn't be a mod and how poorly it reflects on the website than there are threads with "content."
Can you add 2 + 2 and admit the answer you reached?
No one wants zek to be a mod. There are people who don't care and that's fine but literally no one goes "yeah, a fucking tranny who abandoned his kids and stuck a curtain rod up his ass after convincing a girl to commit suicide, that's the kinda forum I wanna contribute information to and develop!" because that's an absolutely insane way of thinking.
Arnox
I have to believe you are smarter than this. You've proven me wrong before though but this is fucking grade 2 public (non mormon) school shit.
Do the right (non transsexual) thing
Nobody wants zek to be a mod. Probably not even you, you just don't like the alternative. Man the fuck up and do what you know you should have done a long time ago
Actually...the curtain rod enema and that other shit is hilarious. Those antics are the perfect qualifiers to mod this sort of site.
Out of curiosity....why doesn't anyone want equ-whatever to be a mod?
Because he's Zek.... :picard:
That means nothing. Ive never been on cocklet, much less have any idea what his antics were there
Zek apparently was suicidal, hated his kids and was a general nigger. No offence.
Those arent reasons to be demodded. Off-line activities are irrelevant to online ones
Being a modtard is reasons to be demodded. Something substantial and valid...such as the name change fiasco
Another example is the fiasco that street-crap brought upon himself a few months ago. Another demoddable offense for which he wasnt demodded for.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Infinityshock on November 04, 2014, 11:26:50 pm
C'mon, guys. We're all adults here, and we have better things to do than be angry on the internet. I dunno what kind of life you think I must live, but it's pretty average. I'm a student and I work off and on as a CNA, full time in the summers. Cook a lot, and keep a relatively clean home. Don't have a rape dungeon or corpse shed. Enjoy reading, yoga and video games.
If you want me removed from the mod team, make a real case (respectfully) and PM it to Arnox and myself. The equivalent of showing up to a town hall meeting drunk and shouting about irrelevant things is not the way to get something done. No one is going to take you seriously.
No. If someone has a case post it for everyone to read. That will provide either the support for u to stay a mod or gtfo. This may not be a democracy but without a user base what it will be is a ghost town
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: BallsDeep69 on November 04, 2014, 11:27:48 pm
Just out of curiosity do you know zek's history of posting on zoklet? Everything will be fine for now and maybe a month or two but he will show his true self.
Nope. I was never on Zoklet as a matter of fact.
see, this could have been a good thing but you just make stupid mistakes. There were like 2 people posting here before people came by default from zoklet, it's safe to say this website wasn't going anywhere and instead of allowing your IQ to be boosted a few points, you try to lower everyone elses to confront your mormon dragon paradigm, the only person who doesn't laugh at it is a shitposting tranny so you decide to let that set the posting/moderation standard. When confronted with this fact you don't backpedal because you're too insecure to admit when you're wrong so you just act really fucking weird about it
Seriously, There have been more threads about how shitty zek is and how he shouldn't be a mod and how poorly it reflects on the website than there are threads with "content."
Can you add 2 + 2 and admit the answer you reached?
No one wants zek to be a mod. There are people who don't care and that's fine but literally no one goes "yeah, a fucking tranny who abandoned his kids and stuck a curtain rod up his ass after convincing a girl to commit suicide, that's the kinda forum I wanna contribute information to and develop!" because that's an absolutely insane way of thinking.
Arnox
I have to believe you are smarter than this. You've proven me wrong before though but this is fucking grade 2 public (non mormon) school shit.
Do the right (non transsexual) thing
Nobody wants zek to be a mod. Probably not even you, you just don't like the alternative. Man the fuck up and do what you know you should have done a long time ago
Actually...the curtain rod enema and that other shit is hilarious. Those antics are the perfect qualifiers to mod this sort of site.
Out of curiosity....why doesn't anyone want equ-whatever to be a mod?
Because he's Zek.... :picard:
That means nothing. Ive never been on cocklet, much less have any idea what his antics were there
Zek apparently was suicidal, hated his kids and was a general nigger. No offence.
Those arent reasons to be demodded. Off-line activities are irrelevant to online ones
Being a modtard is reasons to be demodded. Something substantial and valid...such as the name change fiasco.
Name change 'fiasco'? So 5 mins of having an extra letter in your name is a 'fiasco'? Explain.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: BallsDeep69 on November 04, 2014, 11:28:54 pm
C'mon, guys. We're all adults here, and we have better things to do than be angry on the internet. I dunno what kind of life you think I must live, but it's pretty average. I'm a student and I work off and on as a CNA, full time in the summers. Cook a lot, and keep a relatively clean home. Don't have a rape dungeon or corpse shed. Enjoy reading, yoga and video games.
If you want me removed from the mod team, make a real case (respectfully) and PM it to Arnox and myself. The equivalent of showing up to a town hall meeting drunk and shouting about irrelevant things is not the way to get something done. No one is going to take you seriously.
No. If someone has a case post it for everyone to read. That will provide either the support for u to stay a mod or gtfo. This may not be a democracy but without a user base what it will be is a ghost town
ANOTHER GOOD POST! Wow, excluding mine and Arnox's... That makes a grand total of around 7 reasonable posts on this thread! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Infinityshock on November 04, 2014, 11:34:02 pm
Just out of curiosity do you know zek's history of posting on zoklet? Everything will be fine for now and maybe a month or two but he will show his true self.
Nope. I was never on Zoklet as a matter of fact.
see, this could have been a good thing but you just make stupid mistakes. There were like 2 people posting here before people came by default from zoklet, it's safe to say this website wasn't going anywhere and instead of allowing your IQ to be boosted a few points, you try to lower everyone elses to confront your mormon dragon paradigm, the only person who doesn't laugh at it is a shitposting tranny so you decide to let that set the posting/moderation standard. When confronted with this fact you don't backpedal because you're too insecure to admit when you're wrong so you just act really fucking weird about it
Seriously, There have been more threads about how shitty zek is and how he shouldn't be a mod and how poorly it reflects on the website than there are threads with "content."
Can you add 2 + 2 and admit the answer you reached?
No one wants zek to be a mod. There are people who don't care and that's fine but literally no one goes "yeah, a fucking tranny who abandoned his kids and stuck a curtain rod up his ass after convincing a girl to commit suicide, that's the kinda forum I wanna contribute information to and develop!" because that's an absolutely insane way of thinking.
Arnox
I have to believe you are smarter than this. You've proven me wrong before though but this is fucking grade 2 public (non mormon) school shit.
Do the right (non transsexual) thing
Nobody wants zek to be a mod. Probably not even you, you just don't like the alternative. Man the fuck up and do what you know you should have done a long time ago
Actually...the curtain rod enema and that other shit is hilarious. Those antics are the perfect qualifiers to mod this sort of site.
Out of curiosity....why doesn't anyone want equ-whatever to be a mod?
Because he's Zek.... :picard:
That means nothing. Ive never been on cocklet, much less have any idea what his antics were there
Zek apparently was suicidal, hated his kids and was a general nigger. No offence.
Those arent reasons to be demodded. Off-line activities are irrelevant to online ones
Being a modtard is reasons to be demodded. Something substantial and valid...such as the name change fiasco.
Name change 'fiasco'? So 5 mins of having an extra letter in your name is a 'fiasco'? Explain.
I did explain. The short version is abuse of 'authority' and the inability to handle ones self when endowed with it
This apparently isnt something someone who has never held real positions of authority would understand
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 04, 2014, 11:35:02 pm
Personally, I don't believe in fresh starts, because fresh starts do away with accountability. If you've been a retard on a site for years, that ain't gonna change with a different domain name. Plus, I believe that if somebody made their bed, then they fully deserve to sleep in it. Whether the bed is downstairs or upstairs makes no difference.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Infinityshock on November 04, 2014, 11:37:19 pm
Personally, I don't believe in fresh starts, because fresh starts do away with accountability. If you've been a retard on a site for years, that ain't gonna change with a different domain name. Plus, I believe that if somebody made their bed, then they fully deserve to sleep in it. Whether the bed is downstairs or upstairs makes no difference.
Maybe so but not only is this a completely different site but I havent seen any reasonable reasons posted why he shouldn't be a mod
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 05, 2014, 12:09:12 am
Seriously, I want a reason, guys. Do you all really want to talk or are you just going to look for points of argument in an endless loop against her?
Also keep in mind that if you want to have her demodded, you need to provide specific examples of mod abuse. And no, that deal with the poll/name changing with RisiR hardly counts.
We've given you several examples, and you've either ignored them completely....or just given excuses for HIS derailing nonsense ("the thread/information wasn't useful any how"). Those are his worst sins, but along with that is his constant immaturity and misuse of control panel. Worrying so much about smiliies. Changing his name, then hours later changing it back. Erroneously moving threads to other sections whether the OP didn't intend it to be. Moving threads to NIMF for no reason at all. Trying to outright CHANGE the purpose/culture to sections....I.E. "don't be mean or use bad language in B&M".
But again, what we've asked you YET AGAIN, is where is this "merit" that you claim Zek possessed which was why you modded HIM? You STILL haven't answered that question...other than the attribute of being "nice" (which was NOT a prerequiste for being modded in either the FAQ or past discussions) you haven't given one finite example yourself of a character trait that proves you could trust Zek with the job. And as I just rattled off and many many other users have given you examples, he absolutely HAS been fucking around and turning this place into an irrelevant and immature mess.
Now go ahead. Don't explain his "merit". Brush it off for the 18th time. Ignore all of his immaturity and derailing and other toxi nonsense, and this issue will never die.....and the website will continue to suffer because of it. In both traffic and quality. You are in denial, and thinking this will just "go away" eventually or you'll win this pissing match just proves your naivete, ignorance of your mistake and outright stubbornness.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 05, 2014, 12:17:34 am
Personally, I don't believe in fresh starts, because fresh starts do away with accountability. If you've been a retard on a site for years, that ain't gonna change with a different domain name. Plus, I believe that if somebody made their bed, then they fully deserve to sleep in it. Whether the bed is downstairs or upstairs makes no difference.
Of course the concept of "fresh starts" is idiotic, and its just a bunch of bleeding heart do-gooder nonsense that has little practical application that actually works. It would be like taking a guy that spent half his life robbing banks, and now giving him a job driving an armored car in charge of protecting bags of cash. Its absurd is what it is. Sure, maybe give the guy a job sweeping up the garage where the trucks are kept every night, but actually "being responsible"? There's no "merit" in that ideology, just like there's not "merit" in Zek's heart, mind or soul.....never has been, never will be.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 05, 2014, 12:22:02 am
Zek was not chosen on the basis of merit. Arnox just wanted to be nice. Is that a bad thing? Not in of itself, but it certainly reflects poor judgment if one were on the other hand to state they value community input in these matters and toward those who actually do have the "prerequisite" merit.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: fanglekai on November 05, 2014, 12:30:18 am
Here's a simple reason that Arnox has CONTINUED to ignore:
He posted up staff prerequisites. Zek does not meet those. Arnox never said how Zek meets those criteria.
We don't need to argue why he shouldn't be a mod. Arnox never even argued as to why he SHOULD be a mod. :facepalm:
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 05, 2014, 12:33:56 am
All anyone has to do is go back into Zek's posting history prior to him being modded on Oct 3rd, and they won't see even the remotest type of evidence that he had any of the qualities for the original standards Arnox had for modship. Not even close. There were literally dozens of other posters (and some old-timers before the Zoklet merge) that were a lot more qualified and exhibited those attributes being at least somewhat close to the standards he had in such high regard....but for whatever reason he chose this toxic derailing creep. Now after the fact those standards of Arnox's get totally thrown out the window, so much so he refuses to even talk about them.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 05, 2014, 12:35:29 am
Here's a simple reason that Arnox has CONTINUED to ignore:
He posted up staff prerequisites. Zek does not meet those. Arnox never said how Zek meets those criteria.
We don't need to argue why he shouldn't be a mod. Arnox never even argued as to why he SHOULD be a mod. :facepalm:
Exactly, and now his constant/pat excuse is..."I don't wanna talk about it". or "I don't have time for this". He just continues to put the onus of HIS mistakes on the userbase, even after he lied, manipulated, and played games with us. Some "professionalism", huh? :roll:
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: DaGuru on November 05, 2014, 12:36:30 am
Here's a simple reason that Arnox has CONTINUED to ignore:
He posted up staff prerequisites. Zek does not meet those. Arnox never said how Zek meets those criteria.
We don't need to argue why he shouldn't be a mod. Arnox never even argued as to why he SHOULD be a mod. :facepalm:
Exactly, and now his constant/pat excuse is..."I don't wanna talk about it". or "I don't have time for this". Or don't forget he ignores it completely and just says..."But Zek is niiiccccceee :facepalm: "He just continues to put the onus of HIS mistakes on the userbase, even after he lied, manipulated, and played games with us. Some "professionalism", huh? :roll:
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 05, 2014, 12:36:52 am
I'm sure that with Zek in charge, people will soon resort to eating each other in satanic orgy rituals while impaling newborn babies on freshly sharpened spears. We'll just have to wait until he makes his next move... when he moves... errr... if he moves. In the meantime, the HandofZek continues to rise in the North.
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: Zanick on November 05, 2014, 12:44:01 am
I'm sure that with Zek in charge, people will soon resort to eating each other in satanic orgy rituals while impaling newborn babies on freshly sharpened spears. We'll just have to wait until he makes his next move... when he moves... errr... if he moves. In the meantime, the HandofZek continues to rise in the North.
Is that a Tolkien reference?
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: BallsDeep69 on November 05, 2014, 01:11:41 am
Okey dokey.... Since y'all are beating seven shades of shit outa equanimity and Ol' Arnox over here, let's just say it this way. First off, this is NOT Totse. This is NOT Zoklet. Whatever equanimity did over there as his/her time as Zek, it's in the past. It's on a dead website, months ago. I know y'all don't want to see a "Fresh Start 2.0" but Arnox is RIGHT. It IS a fresh start. Completely new website, and (mostly) old members. If you're gonna bitch about a 10 min name change, well looks like you've won the "Biggest Prat of 2014" Award RisiR, because it didn't affect you, it was for shits n giggles, you wern't banned, they apologised and you should've gotten over it.
Secondly, does it really matter that equanimity and Arnox chose to keep "Zek" under wraps? Hell, if I had a reputation like that I'd want to get a fresh start on a new forum, using my old username would've been, well not suicide, but.... It certainly wouldn't help one's reputation. I personally think that all the people Arnox has chosen do a fairly good job and when they muck around, it's all in fun.
TLDR: Stop bitching, it's unnecererally time consuming and a major put-down.
-Balls :picard:
Shut the fuck up Infrared, I can find pictures of you in 3.5 seconds
Infrared?
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: mizled on November 05, 2014, 02:42:59 am
C'mon, guys. We're not here to make mincemeat out of anybody. We'd just like it if the staff would finally get their shit together and do things right, that's all. It doesn't have to be an Us vs Them mentality at all, as long as this fiasco doesn't continue. But as for Zek, I'd suggest just change your nick to Zek and start considering taking more accountability in your comments across the board. You're held to a higher standard now, so you just can't come across as anything less than professional. Your personal life is irrelevant.
Honestly, the only problem is butthurt little faggots like you who can't do anything except complain.
Shut the fuck up you fucking spastics. Do you have any idea how fucking boring you are?
Title: Re: ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers
Post by: -SpectraL on November 05, 2014, 11:07:36 am
C'mon, guys. We're not here to make mincemeat out of anybody. We'd just like it if the staff would finally get their shit together and do things right, that's all. It doesn't have to be an Us vs Them mentality at all, as long as this fiasco doesn't continue. But as for Zek, I'd suggest just change your nick to Zek and start considering taking more accountability in your comments across the board. You're held to a higher standard now, so you just can't come across as anything less than professional. Your personal life is irrelevant.
Honestly, the only problem is butthurt little faggots like you who can't do anything except complain.
Shut the fuck up you fucking spastics. Do you have any idea how fucking boring you are?
You seem to be doing a hell of a lot of complaining yourself, kid.