Site Discussion => News of the Sanctuary => Topic started by: Arnox on October 03, 2014, 11:08:24 pm
Title: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 03, 2014, 11:08:24 pm
No, this is not a joke. We have finally elected two new moderators.
The first one is equanimity. The first member of Zoklet to be promoted to a staff position. However, as it's still kinda soon, she'll be on kind of a trial period of a sort. So we'll see how it goes.
The second one is Rocklin who was a longtime poster of totse2 who has recently become active again. He's a really good guy who has contributed a lot to both sites.
And there you go. Congratulations and good luck to both of you.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 03, 2014, 11:11:50 pm
No, this is not a joke. We have finally elected two new moderators.
The first one is equanimity. The first member of Zoklet to be promoted to a staff position. However, as it's still kinda soon, she'll be on kind of a trial period of a sort. So we'll see how it goes.
The second one is Rocklin who was a longtime poster of totse2 who has recently become active again. He's a really good guy who has contributed a lot to both sites.
And there you go. Congratulations and good luck to both of you.
:cosby:
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 03, 2014, 11:24:21 pm
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The first one is equanimity.
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Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 03, 2014, 11:31:58 pm
INB4 Massive wave of rage over equanimity getting modded.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 03, 2014, 11:34:26 pm
As long as she is 'neutral' and doesn't try to push some 'social justice' bullshit and try to censor my hate speech, I will have no problems with your choice, Arnox.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 03, 2014, 11:36:31 pm
As long as she is 'neutral' and doesn't try to push some 'social justice' bullshit and try to censor my hate speech, I will have no problems with your choice, Arnox.
I will make sure of that. Trust me.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 03, 2014, 11:38:29 pm
I'll get her banned within a week.
This was really your best move so far, Arnox. :tup:
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Bart the General on October 03, 2014, 11:38:50 pm
Lol, this site is so terrible
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 03, 2014, 11:40:36 pm
As long as she is 'neutral' and doesn't try to push some 'social justice' bullshit and try to censor my hate speech, I will have no problems with your choice, Arnox.
I will make sure of that. Trust me.
Thank you, and may your scales always glint in the sunlight, or some such gay dragon compliment.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 03, 2014, 11:53:11 pm
I look forward to serving the community.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 03, 2014, 11:53:41 pm
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Make no mistake. Who gets picked as staff here is treated INCREDIBLY seriously. If the admins pick someone to be staff (all global moderators, and admins must be approved by the existing admin or admins), it will be because they have excelled completely. The people we pick must be model posters. We will only accept the best and will expect a lot out of them no matter who they are. They will be held to a very high standard but, as a result, they will BE the standard and will also hold a very high level of respect from me and the other admins. They are the keepers of the Sanctuary.
I have no idea who those people are but first one to ban Infinity has my respect.
You're welcome. :tup:
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Bart the General on October 04, 2014, 01:02:42 am
You should mod people who contribute to intellectual discourse, Arnox not a shitpoasting tranny and some guy who never posts but you knew him not posting 3 months before people started posting here
Doesn't matter, this place is terrible and I'll never admit to posting here even under testicular electrocution
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: PurpleCow on October 04, 2014, 01:34:28 am
Rocklin was a great choice. Congrats to both.
BTW where's Edify?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: DaGuru on October 04, 2014, 01:36:04 am
INB4 Massive wave of rage over equanimity getting modded.
The only emotion I'll express anything towards "rage" is getting the very hearty chuckle filled with indignation when yourself or anyone else refers to Equaniminity/Zek as a "she". That's no she, its a crooked dick mutilator living out some freakish deviancy playing dressup. Period.
As for you modding HIM, this is completely contrary to the qualities you've posted both in the FAQ and in some of the discussion threads. He sure as fuck is not professional in any way, shape or form....and one only has to witness his complete emotional INSTABILITY to recognize that. One hour he is shitposting, the next hour he is suicidal, the next trolling idiocy again in HB.
Here's how this will go down for you Arnox, mark my words. He'll behave himself for a week or two, restraining himself not wanting to prove his detractors wrong. But eventually his whole unstable whacked out views on life and what a BBS should be will get the best of him, and he'll make a complete mess of things. And once you do knock him down to regular status, you'll be dealing with attention whoring and games for months, acting totally blameless and pointing fingers at everyone else (probably YOU more than anyone)....because he's been playing these kind of silly immature games for literally years at Zoklet and Totse.
I give this a month, tops.....
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Bart the General on October 04, 2014, 01:38:57 am
A year ago I thought I'd either be in jail right now or have forgotten zoklet was even a thing.
Hahaha, and look at you now. :tdown:
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: LostStranger on October 04, 2014, 02:04:11 am
New global moderators? That was rather fast, is there really a problem with spam or shitposting in the site? I don't see anything apparent though, not that I mind with the new mods.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: -SpectraL on October 04, 2014, 02:06:15 am
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Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Bart the General on October 04, 2014, 02:06:57 am
A year ago I thought I'd either be in jail right now or have forgotten zoklet was even a thing.
Hahaha, and look at you now. :tdown:
could be worse, I forgot about zoklet for like 4 months or something then got a new phone and remembered skygear made a good thread about android apps to get, looked around, read some of my old posts and decided to make a gimmick alt that was pretty funny all things considered
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Bart the General on October 04, 2014, 02:07:53 am
A year ago I thought I'd either be in jail right now or have forgotten zoklet was even a thing.
Hahaha, and look at you now. :tdown:
could be worse, I forgot about zoklet for like 4 months or something then got a new phone and remembered skygear made a good thread about android apps to get, looked around, read some of my old posts and decided to make a gimmick alt that was pretty funny all things considered
Cool.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Bart the General on October 04, 2014, 02:13:50 am
I posted with it for like a week then got banned on purpose but during that time I made this incredibly hilarious thread that begs the question of what was the median IQ of zoklet
Are you actually fucking serious, modding zek of all people?
Arnox is literally as dense as metallic osmium.
22.59 g
didn't google
Ima genius on houf awrist
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 04, 2014, 03:09:51 am
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dense
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22.59 g
Ok....
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Bart the General on October 04, 2014, 03:12:40 am
do you need things specified in cm^3?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 04, 2014, 03:13:21 am
All I've seen so far from pretty much everyone here is a bunch of trolling and crying and no legitimate reasons why equan would make a bad mod. The only one who actually spoke somewhat intelligently was DaGuru and even then, all I got mostly was "SHE'S A TRANNY/ZEK LOL."
In all seriousness, if she starts unmodding fairly, she will be unmodded. Simple as that.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 04, 2014, 03:15:45 am
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 04, 2014, 03:17:58 am
My actions will be judged by the community, and I trust that you'll all be fair about it. As Arnox said, I'll have to answer to him for any mistakes I make.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Bart the General on October 04, 2014, 03:18:13 am
All I've seen so far from pretty much everyone here is a bunch of trolling and crying and no legitimate reasons why equan would make a bad mod. The only one who actually spoke somewhat intelligently was DaGuru and even then, all I got mostly was "SHE'S A TRANNY/ZEK LOL."
In all seriousness, if she starts unmodding fairly, she will be unmodded. Simple as that.
It really doesn't matter, there are like 4-6 people who post here so it makes sense to mod one of them
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 04, 2014, 03:19:57 am
My actions will be judged by the community, and I trust that you'll all be fair about it. As Arnox said, I'll have to answer to him for any mistakes I make.
:tdown:
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 04, 2014, 03:21:07 am
All I've seen so far from pretty much everyone here is a bunch of trolling and crying and no legitimate reasons why equan would make a bad mod. The only one who actually spoke somewhat intelligently was DaGuru and even then, all I got mostly was "SHE'S A TRANNY/ZEK LOL."
In all seriousness, if she starts unmodding fairly, she will be unmodded. Simple as that.
Good man...let me buy you a beer...err no wait I mean...we should grab a cup of coffee sometime....uuh, sorry, damn, never mind.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: DaGuru on October 04, 2014, 03:57:19 am
All I've seen so far from pretty much everyone here is a bunch of trolling and crying and no legitimate reasons why equan would make a bad mod. The only one who actually spoke somewhat intelligently was DaGuru and even then, all I got mostly was "SHE'S A TRANNY/ZEK LOL."
In all seriousness, if she starts unmodding fairly, she will be unmodded. Simple as that.
Unbanned. You were really crossing the line there, equan.
You want more intellectual analysis than what I said earlier? Simple analogy for you. Its like you've made Richard Simmons the president of the Hells Angels.
Maybe I'm wrong in the kind of vibe/culture you want to create here, Arnox....maybe I've misread everything. In essence, if you want the ambiance of maybe a gardening club or some old ladies Tuesday afternoon bridge game, then sure Zek/Equanamity is your MAN. But for controversial subject matter with difficult (if not outright crazy) personalities of a vast mosaic of demographics? I'd swear this was an intricate troll/April Fool's Day/you were just bored and wanted to have a few laughs.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 04, 2014, 04:03:08 am
You want more intellectual analysis than what I said earlier? Simple analogy for you. Its like you've made Richard Simmons the president of the Hells Angels.
Maybe I'm wrong in the kind of vibe/culture you want to create here, Arnox....maybe I've misread everything. In essence, if you want the ambiance of maybe a gardening club or some old ladies Tuesday afternoon bridge game, then sure Zek/Equanamity is your MAN. But for controversial subject matter with difficult (if not outright crazy) personalities of a vast mosaic of demographics? I'd swear this was an intricate troll/April Fool's Day/you were just bored and wanted to have a few laughs.
The only "vibe" I want to create here is one of freedom of speech and information. We are not trying to win a Who Can Be The Most Hardcore contest. Totse grew hardcore BECAUSE of how much it allowed anyway, not because that was the image they were actively trying to foster.
are you gonna be stupid and ban people for good {REDACTED}?
I'll ban people for breaking the rules if that's what you mean.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 04, 2014, 04:51:43 am
Have users follow you from Totse 2. All but kill off anyone left's interest in being part of this community and drive all but a handful away. When the site is almost completely empty you get a god send of users from the shut down of zocklet. It appears you are doing your damnedest to drive all of them away too effectively killing this site a second time. I have to say it's pretty spectacular how awful someone can be at running a simple site with a damn near guaranteed user base it's hilarious
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Fuck Shit Stack on October 04, 2014, 04:51:49 am
What's your IQ?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 04, 2014, 04:52:56 am
Have users follow you from Totse 2. All but kill off anyone left's interest in being part of this community and drive all but a handful away. When the site is almost completely empty you get a god send of users from the shut down of zocklet. It appears you are doing your damnedest to drive all of them away too effectively killing this site a second time. I have to say it's pretty spectacular how awful someone can be at running a simple site with a damn near guaranteed user base it's hilarious
Yet you're still here.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 04, 2014, 04:54:19 am
well yeah like I said it's hilarious you're comically bad at this
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Max Headroom on October 04, 2014, 04:54:42 am
Arnox, in your opinion have you ever thought of me being a mod?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: aldra on October 04, 2014, 04:56:09 am
lol, what
seriously? what was the thought process that led to modding zek, of all people?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 04, 2014, 04:57:49 am
You want more intellectual analysis than what I said earlier? Simple analogy for you. Its like you've made Richard Simmons the president of the Hells Angels.
Maybe I'm wrong in the kind of vibe/culture you want to create here, Arnox....maybe I've misread everything. In essence, if you want the ambiance of maybe a gardening club or some old ladies Tuesday afternoon bridge game, then sure Zek/Equanamity is your MAN. But for controversial subject matter with difficult (if not outright crazy) personalities of a vast mosaic of demographics? I'd swear this was an intricate troll/April Fool's Day/you were just bored and wanted to have a few laughs.
The only "vibe" I want to create here is one of freedom of speech and information. We are not trying to win a Who Can Be The Most Hardcore contest. Totse grew hardcore BECAUSE of how much it allowed anyway, not because that was the image they were actively trying to foster.
I have no interest in who mods this place other than that they do a good job. A couple of obeservations though, Arnox, assuming I've read your post correctly:
1) You suggest that by allowing freedom of speech and information, which is your stated objective for this site, a 'hardcore' environment naturally evolves. This implies the current 'hardcore' environment on Sanctuary will at the very least be maintained if not encouraged.
2) Having established nature of this site's environment in the current and near future, what do you say to DaGuru's claim Equanamity is an unfit personality to mod such an environment? You have not engaged with him on that point.
Presumably you disagree?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: -SpectraL on October 04, 2014, 10:45:29 am
In reality, Arnox doesn't have a clue what he's doing, but he seems to be genuine enough in his desire to create something good.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 04, 2014, 11:02:56 am
2) Having established nature of this site's environment in the current and near future, what do you say to DaGuru's claim Equanamity is an unfit personality to mod such an environment? You have not engaged with him on that point.
Equanimity believes in freedom of speech and information as well. Actually, what's ironic is, contrary to popular belief, she's even more libertarian and less strict than I am.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Proots on October 04, 2014, 12:00:57 pm
Is the user who posts on the Equanimity account the same Zoklet user who used to post on the HandofZek, FaggotPrincess, etc, etc. accounts on Zoklet? Because, if so...LOL!
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: DaGuru on October 04, 2014, 12:06:46 pm
all he's ever contributed is drama and constantly derailed shit on zoklet. he was banned from W&C (yeah I know 556 was way too heavy handed) for that:
"how do you handle the recoil on [whatever]?" "guns are evil and should be illegal"
every few months he'd have a huff because nobody was taking him seriously, quit, and come back the next day with a different username.
^^^^^This!^^^^
This is a perfect summary of Zek's legacy all these years on message boards. And while I'll be the first person to light a torch burning 5.56 at the stake, and believe section specific bans are uncalled for 98% of the time....Zek WAS the poster boy for someone that rightfully earned that status (probably should have been forum banned in a lot of other sections too).
Equanimity believes in freedom of speech and information as well. Actually, what's ironic is, contrary to popular belief, she's even more libertarian and less strict than I am.
Arnox, can you give just a few finite examples that led you to this observation? We understand, its your site and you can do whatever the hell you want....but notice how Rocklin isn't getting any grief to any great degree, whereas your decision on Zek has created a "WTF?" moment in the minds of the majority of the userbase.
The old saying comes to mind...."common enemies make strange bedfellows"....and it is quite amazing how you've actually found a topic that can somewhat "unite" a userbase where there is common agreement about any topic or decision. Quite simply, old school Totsean contributor, horrific shitposter, attention whoring trolls....every one of those demographics are absolutely astounded you've given Zek this status. Don't you think there is ANY substance by such a strong communal dismay/disbelief over this decision?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: DaGuru on October 04, 2014, 12:07:05 pm
Is the user who posts on the Equanimity account the same Zoklet user who used to post on the HandofZek, FaggotPrincess, etc, etc. accounts on Zoklet? Because, if so...LOL!
Yes, Proots.....undeniably it is.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Juicebox on October 04, 2014, 12:11:43 pm
Is the user who posts on the Equanimity account the same Zoklet user who used to post on the HandofZek, FaggotPrincess, etc, etc. accounts on Zoklet? Because, if so...LOL!
That seems to be the consensus. The posting styles are certainly similar.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Proots on October 04, 2014, 12:12:05 pm
Is the user who posts on the Equanimity account the same Zoklet user who used to post on the HandofZek, FaggotPrincess, etc, etc. accounts on Zoklet? Because, if so...LOL!
Yes, Proots.....undeniably it is.
What an awful, awful decision, then. But, we cannot exactly blame Arnox - since, he wasn't at Zoklet and never saw what a drama queen and pathological liar Zek was. It (Zek) is also delusional, petty, selfish and stupid. Arnox will feel like he has to back the decision he made right now, but I give it about 2 months until the tranny cunt finally has a melt down and crashes and burns.
I think out of all the people that posted on Zoklet, Zek and Psychomanthis were the only two I genuinely, truly despised.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: mark311 on October 04, 2014, 12:15:31 pm
Wow lol this is going to be interesting to say the least I mean.... Wow I am at a loss for words I truly am.
Just wow lol
You should've just modded schplew lol
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 04, 2014, 12:16:01 pm
Is the user who posts on the Equanimity account the same Zoklet user who used to post on the HandofZek, FaggotPrincess, etc, etc. accounts on Zoklet? Because, if so...LOL!
Yes, Proots.....undeniably it is.
What an awful, awful decision, then. But, we cannot exactly blame Arnox - since, he wasn't at Zoklet and never saw what a drama queen and pathological liar Zek was. It (Zek) is also delusional, petty, selfish and stupid. Arnox will feel like he has to back the decision he made right now, but I give it about 2 months until the tranny cunt finally has a melt down and crashes and burns.
I think out of all the people that posted on Zoklet, Zek and Psychomanthis were the only two I genuinely, truly despised.
Give me a minute.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: splooge gook on October 04, 2014, 12:16:24 pm
Is the user who posts on the Equanimity account the same Zoklet user who used to post on the HandofZek, FaggotPrincess, etc, etc. accounts on Zoklet? Because, if so...LOL!
Yes, Proots.....undeniably it is.
What an awful, awful decision, then. But, we cannot exactly blame Arnox - since, he wasn't at Zoklet and never saw what a drama queen and pathological liar Zek was. It (Zek) is also delusional, petty, selfish and stupid. Arnox will feel like he has to back the decision he made right now, but I give it about 2 months until the tranny cunt finally has a melt down and crashes and burns.
I think out of all the people that posted on Zoklet, Zek and Psychomanthis were the only two I genuinely, truly despised.
Give me a minute.
We won't even have to do anything. Zek is a disgusting, gender bending faggot. It is notorious for being conceited, delusional, selfish, vain and stupid. All these traits combine make it so that every few weeks or months there's a guarantee it will have a melt down, do something stupid and self harming and leave the site - only to return a while later and repeat the process over again.
It happened on Zoklet every single time it made a new user name. It's a disgusting, biological error. It abandoned it's children. It's a fucking disgrace. The fact a human being so vile could actually exist in this world actually makes me feel faint. The most pathetic thing is that it tries to change it's behavior, but inevitably fails each and every time. Then, like I said before, it has a melt down - leaves the site...and returns a long while later, wash, rinse, repeat.
Fucking pathetic.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 04, 2014, 12:27:11 pm
I don't see any similarity in posting styles or any memory of certain zoklet events, to indicate that this is zek. They also argue way differently, and as I have typed countless times, zek hated my guts and it is not like it is a big secret who I was at zoklet, there is no way he would interact with me here like this equaniminnanity (whatever) person does. If this equa-whatever person was zek he would put me on ignore or type stuff like 'don't talk to me' like he did at zoklet. But if you guys want to think that this is zek, nothing I type will change your minds. Have fun.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 04, 2014, 12:40:27 pm
You know what guys, the truth is, I think if I made ANYONE from Zoklet a mod here, I can almost guarantee that no matter who it was, you guys would have something bad to say about that person.
I understand. I wasn't there at Zoklet. I don't know who anyone was there or what they did.
But I can tell you what I did. I was a crap poster too. I was a cringe-worthy one who didn't know what he was doing at all. I earned some enemies long past. Some people really did not like me. I guess my point is, people can change.
And even further, I just love how you all immediately go off the word of some random guy on the internet and just assume he is right about equan being Zek, no matter if he's right or not. All I know is, equan is one of the nicest posters on this site. And you know what? She's got problems. But I have problems. And you have problems. The point is, can she moderate well and fairly despite her problems? I believe so.
And if she really is the terrible terrible person you all say she is, than you can all look forward to the fact that she won't be modding for much longer.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 04, 2014, 12:44:43 pm
equan. :facepalm:
If Zek is not a user here, his PI is not against the rules right?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 04, 2014, 12:46:11 pm
If Zek is not a user here, his PI is not against the rules right?
You can post it but if I verify through equan that she really is Zek after you post it then you gonna get banned for a while. It's up to you whether you'd like to take that chance.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Slave of the Beast on October 04, 2014, 12:53:31 pm
You can post it but if I verify through equan that she really is Zek after you post it then you gonna get banned for a while. It's up to you whether you'd like to take that chance.
So if he posts this 'PI' and is banned right after, then we confirm that it is zek? Pass that PI to me, I will risk a ban to find out either way.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Slave of the Beast on October 04, 2014, 01:05:44 pm
If Zek is not a user here, his PI is not against the rules right?
You can post it but if I verify through equan that she really is Zek after you post it then you gonna get banned for a while. It's up to you whether you'd like to take that chance.
Why, prior to any confirmation that they are the same poster, should people be banned for posting Zek's PI when 'Equan' has already strongly implied she isn't Zek?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: splooge gook on October 04, 2014, 01:10:11 pm
sploo 4 mod of trash can
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 04, 2014, 01:19:09 pm
Why, prior to any confirmation that they are the same poster, should people be banned for posting Zek's PI when 'Equan' has already strongly implied she isn't Zek?
Then I guess there's nothing to worry about if she isn't Zek.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: mark311 on October 04, 2014, 01:34:12 pm
Arnox is still the worst faggot lover white knight bitch I've ever seen on the internet.
And he's a bad admin and a Mormon.
So angry... :homo:
Angry, sad and disappointed. :'(
This is how Jesus must feel when he thinks of you.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 04, 2014, 03:19:06 pm
It's really impressive you're able to get two user bases to hate you Arnox you must have a rough time in life if you can't even get totse runoffs to think you can handle this. Everyone on this site has seen more fail admins than they should have and I find it hilarious that you are just one more of them it seems to be the track record for totse spin off sites.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 04, 2014, 03:21:45 pm
Spectre = SpectraL ????
Let me go put on my conspiracy pants, and we'll do some digging ;)
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 04, 2014, 03:23:21 pm
Let me go put on my conspiracy pants, and we'll do some digging ;)
Oh no. Spectre's a bitter old man who used to post under the username "The Smith" on totse2. Woudn't you know, he actually used to be a good poster. Lately though, he's gotten so angry. That or he just wants to troll me all day because he has nothing better to do. Both equally sad really.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 04, 2014, 03:24:48 pm
Let me go put on my conspiracy pants, and we'll do some digging ;)
Oh no. Spectre's a bitter old man who used to post under the username "The Smith". Lately though, he's gotten so angry too. That or he just wants to troll me all day because he has nothing better to do. Both equally sad really.
don't worry though nothing can be as sad as your hilarious white knighting and speed at which you run forums into the ground
also LOL at old man I'm glad I come of as that
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 04, 2014, 03:31:08 pm
You're right. Old man's giving you too much credit. How about neckbeard?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: -SpectraL on October 04, 2014, 03:31:37 pm
Two things:
Allowing the posting of the personal information of a member who may join later is incredibly stupid, short-sighted and childishly weak in the first place. Posting PI drives off prospective members. Nobody should be posting anyone's PI, whether they're here or not.
Appointing a mod shouldn't be based on who will like it or who will not like it, it should be a decision based on qualifications alone. Nobody should give two warm shits what anyone thinks of a user who is able to handle the job. For example, DaGuru and Slave of the Beast are more than capable of handling the position, but some won't like it, but my point is nobody should really care who likes it or doesn't like it. It's a matter of qualifications, not likability. Likability is for the losing faggots who sunk both Totse and Zoklet.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 04, 2014, 03:33:55 pm
You're right. Old man's giving you too much credit. How about neckbeard?
HAHAHAHA Says the Mormon who loves dragons and promotes someone to moderator solely because he thinks she's a woman. Than you wonder why I stick around here you should have your own fucking show Arnox watching someone as pathetic as you daily would be fucking gold.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: MoaningLisa on October 04, 2014, 03:38:00 pm
Welcome to the staff Rocklin and Equanimity!
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 04, 2014, 03:39:42 pm
Allowing the posting of the personal information of a member who may join later is incredibly stupid, short-sighted and childishly weak in the first place. Posting PI drives off prospective members. Nobody should be posting anyone's PI, whether they're here or not.
Appointing a mod shouldn't be based on who will like it or who will not like it, it should be a decision based on qualifications alone. Nobody should give two warm shits what anyone thinks of a user who is able to handle the job. For example, DaGuru and Slave of the Beast are more than capable of handling the position, but some won't like it, but my point is nobody should really care who likes it or doesn't like it. It's a matter of qualifications, not likability. Likability is for the losing faggots who sunk both Totse and Zoklet.
If I make a mess of things Arnox will demote me. That's been made clear.
And judging by this thread I'm not the most likable poster anyway lol. That qualifies me, right? ;)
Allowing the posting of the personal information of a member who may join later is incredibly stupid, short-sighted and childishly weak in the first place. Posting PI drives off prospective members. Nobody should be posting anyone's PI, whether they're here or not.
PI scares you, kid.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: -SpectraL on October 04, 2014, 03:50:43 pm
Yeah, like tolerance for bullshit would be an excellent qualification to have. That way we can overrun the site with kidiots even faster and get that TTFN up before anybody wastes too much time and effort making actual contributions. We'll just go to the ICQ-Chat-Lite "Retards Have Rights Too" mission statement for guidance on this thing.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 04, 2014, 03:54:35 pm
I will say it is nice to see rocklin showing back up again maybe he can motivate me to post in W&C again he was a good contributor even if he had weird music preferences
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: komokazi on October 04, 2014, 04:00:16 pm
The ones who harp on PI are the ones most afraid of it.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Slave of the Beast on October 04, 2014, 04:04:55 pm
For example, DaGuru and Slave of the Beast are more than capable of handling the position, but some won't like it, but my point is nobody should really care who likes it or doesn't like it. It's a matter of qualifications, not likability. Likability is for the losing faggots who sunk both Totse and Zoklet.
Yeah, like tolerance for bullshit would be an excellent qualification to have. That way we can overrun the site with kidiots even faster and get that TTFN up before anybody wastes too much time and effort making actual contributions. We'll just go to the ICQ-Chat-Lite "Retards Have Rights Too" mission statement for guidance on this thing.
If you have any suggestions to improve the website, feel free to post them in the suggestions forum. Arnox isn't absent and uninvolved as Zok was, and if you make good suggestions I'm sure he'd take them into consideration.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: komokazi on October 04, 2014, 04:19:29 pm
Yeah, like tolerance for bullshit would be an excellent qualification to have. That way we can overrun the site with kidiots even faster and get that TTFN up before anybody wastes too much time and effort making actual contributions. We'll just go to the ICQ-Chat-Lite "Retards Have Rights Too" mission statement for guidance on this thing.
If you have any suggestions to improve the website, feel free to post them in the suggestions forum. Arnox isn't absent and uninvolved as Zok was, and if you make good suggestions I'm sure he'd take them into consideration.
Obvious Zek is obvious.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: -SpectraL on October 04, 2014, 04:30:09 pm
If you have any suggestions to improve the website, feel free to post them in the suggestions forum. Arnox isn't absent and uninvolved as Zok was, and if you make good suggestions I'm sure he'd take them into consideration.
I've already stated my stance on this many times over many moons. To make a new thread on it would be entirely redundant. Common sense shouldn't need a thread or discussion anyways.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Proots on October 04, 2014, 10:02:31 pm
So much drama, and I haven't yet been mod for a full 24 hours.
I'm not zek. There's not much else to say about it.
So then, you never posted on Zoklet as HandOfZek(sp?) or Lady Julily(sp?)? You never made a single post on Zokelt under either of those accounts (spelling errors of said account names aside)?
Because, if indeed you never posted on Zoklet with an account name identical or similar to the ones above, then I rescind all comments I have made about you thus far.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Homosapien on October 04, 2014, 10:48:34 pm
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Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: fanglekai on October 05, 2014, 12:59:55 am
These moderators were bad choices. More bad choices from Arnox.....what's new LOLLLLLLL
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: fanglekai on October 05, 2014, 01:05:04 am
Change the fucking "New Members of Staff" bullshit. It should be "New Staff Members" fucking :facepalm:
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Juicebox on October 05, 2014, 01:35:26 am
So then, you never posted on Zoklet as HandOfZek(sp?) or Lady Julily(sp?)? You never made a single post on Zokelt under either of those accounts (spelling errors of said account names aside)?
Because, if indeed you never posted on Zoklet with an account name identical or similar to the ones above, then I rescind all comments I have made about you thus far.
You won't ever have to rescind anything, Proots....because now that there is a big fat spotlight on him, people will be watching him closer than ever and his OBVIOUS personality will shine through as it has for so many others already on here. It doesn't matter that Arnox "believes him", because all he's doing is taking his word for it. Arnox said it himself, he didn't spend much time on Zoklet, so he doesn't know Zek's personality.
And along with all of the other ACCURATE descriptions you've made of Zek, another one is he is a pathological liar and consumate GAME PLAYER. How many of the other alts did he go through where in the very beginning he would play the game of denying being Zek, but after a long enough time he finally just came clean? This is all just more of an elaborate troll, an attempt at a "long con" with the idea his most vocal detractors will be made to look silly if all the noobs not knowing his personna buy into his bullshit.
But there is no doubting it, not in the least. Same outlook on life, constantly spewing the peace/love/goodwill towards all men drivel. Same games of playing stupid and naive in threads, passive trolling at its best. Same emotional swings. Same depression/suicidal attention whoring. Same interest in juvenile bullshit like kitty smilies and other queer idiocy. Etc ad nauseum.
Granted, once his lie IS exposed (and it most certainly will be, it always does with Zek) Arnox probably won't demod him for it....because as everyone can see Arnox is already an apologist for him. I can already hear the excuse..."Zek felt he HAD to lie, because so many of his enemies make it hard for him to be himself and enjoy his Sanctuary experience"....just further enforcing the "victim" label that Zek holds onto so dearly.
But like you and I and so many others do know, eventually what WILL get him demodded is all the reasons that have already been stated. He's a selfish weirdo looking out ONLY for his interests, and in time he'll self implode and make a complete mess of things. The only question about any of this is not "if" but "when"....and basically that is when Arnox finally loses patience of him "playing stupid" and quite putting so much weight on the empty rhetoric of "but he really is a nice guy".
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 05, 2014, 02:54:42 am
Holy hell DaGuru, it's gotta hurt holding on to that rage so tightly.
Bottom line: Whoever I am, Arnox has decided to give me a chance. The reality is that I am your mod until (and if) he decides otherwise. I am choosing to maintain anonymity on the "Zoklet identity" front for my own reasons, but it's fine with me if you want to think I'm Zek. Trust me when I say we're all well aware that my actions will be scrutinized very closely for the foreseeable future. If I make any major mistakes Arnox will know, and if that happens I'm fully expecting to lose my moderator status.
And while I can't speak for him, the impression I got was that being disliked or unpopular with a few people is not grounds for dismissal. Maybe he could clarify this if you feel you need him to. Ask nicely imo.
I wouldn't have taken this job if I didn't think I could do it well. This is a website I care about, with the "free speech bbs" unfortunately being a dying breed. My approach to moderation is based on the simple fact that I believe each poster has something unique and worthwhile to add to the forum. It doesn't matter if you hate me or give me a hard time; I don't want to see you go. I don't want to have to ban anyone, and in the event I do my hope is that you come back soon and get to expressing yourselves again in a way that is conducive to thoughtful and funny discussion. Really I want to do the least moderating possible, while still keeping things on track.
We should all be allowed to share our thoughts and opinions without fear of being banned for doing so. Choose to despise me for your uncertain reasons if you would like, but I really hope you recognize that I will not be taking any of that into account when moderating.
Believe it or not, I'm one of the good guys :)
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Lord hang man on October 05, 2014, 03:14:23 am
Yooo I don't even know who anyone on this website is!! haha, mod whoever.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: DaGuru on October 05, 2014, 04:06:07 am
Anytime someone keeps it real and calls a spade a spade without blowing smoke up another person's ass, you ALWAYS quantify it as "rage".
And then your "ask nicely" mindset. As long as the question or request is "polite" you always think it will work or be justified. Just be niiiicccceeeee, and everything will be honky dory, right?
Keep on keepin' on Zek, your Mary Poppins mindset is only betraying (and eventually ending) your long con that has a very scant couple of people fooled. :P
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 05, 2014, 04:16:21 am
Pretty sure I'm nicer and more polite than Zek ever was... but whatever :)
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 05, 2014, 04:37:45 am
Anytime someone keeps it real and calls a spade a spade without blowing smoke up another person's ass, you ALWAYS quantify it as "rage".
And then your "ask nicely" mindset. As long as the question or request is "polite" you always think it will work or be justified. Just be niiiicccceeeee, and everything will be honky dory, right?
Keep on keepin' on Zek, your Mary Poppins mindset is only betraying (and eventually ending) your long con that has a very scant couple of people fooled. :P
Waiting for zek to be zek in 3 2 1.....
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: splooge gook on October 05, 2014, 05:50:53 am
So much drama, and I haven't yet been mod for a full 24 hours.
I'm not zek. There's not much else to say about it.
So then, you never posted on Zoklet as HandOfZek(sp?) or Lady Julily(sp?)? You never made a single post on Zokelt under either of those accounts (spelling errors of said account names aside)?
Because, if indeed you never posted on Zoklet with an account name identical or similar to the ones above, then I rescind all comments I have made about you thus far.
Don't be so quick to take back your comments friend. Trust me.
Oh and beers are on me when I get back home!
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Michael Myers on October 05, 2014, 11:37:06 am
I first thought equanimity was a troll but then I found out she's actually Zek so she (or he) can stay.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Proots on October 05, 2014, 11:56:15 am
Holy hell DaGuru, it's gotta hurt holding on to that rage so tightly.
Bottom line: Whoever I am, Arnox has decided to give me a chance. The reality is that I am your mod until (and if) he decides otherwise. I am choosing to maintain anonymity on the "Zoklet identity" front for my own reasons, but it's fine with me if you want to think I'm Zek. Trust me when I say we're all well aware that my actions will be scrutinized very closely for the foreseeable future. If I make any major mistakes Arnox will know, and if that happens I'm fully expecting to lose my moderator status.
And while I can't speak for him, the impression I got was that being disliked or unpopular with a few people is not grounds for dismissal. Maybe he could clarify this if you feel you need him to. Ask nicely imo.
I wouldn't have taken this job if I didn't think I could do it well. This is a website I care about, with the "free speech bbs" unfortunately being a dying breed. My approach to moderation is based on the simple fact that I believe each poster has something unique and worthwhile to add to the forum. It doesn't matter if you hate me or give me a hard time; I don't want to see you go. I don't want to have to ban anyone, and in the event I do my hope is that you come back soon and get to expressing yourselves again in a way that is conducive to thoughtful and funny discussion. Really I want to do the least moderating possible, while still keeping things on track.
We should all be allowed to share our thoughts and opinions without fear of being banned for doing so. Choose to despise me for your uncertain reasons if you would like, but I really hope you recognize that I will not be taking any of that into account when moderating.
Believe it or not, I'm one of the good guys :)
I asked you a very simple, very direct question. Have you ever posted on Zoklet using the HandofZek and/or Lady Julily accounts? I'm more than inclined to believe you are Zek now, since the word "ME" appears in your post almost a dozen times.
I'm so glad you can show this forum more love and care than you ever showed the two children you abandoned. You're a disgusting, twisted freak and a faggot. Fuck you. A gender bending tranny cunt, self obsessed and incapable of not telling lies decides to shift to yet ANOTHER identity. This won't last. You hate yourself just as much as I hate you. You've never been consistent in choosing a personality and the fact you actually have to choose one in the first place is alarming enough.
I suppose, that if I were as broken and fucked up as you, I'd try to convince myself I was someone different, too. God, you're fucking pathetic. You had two children and abandoned them. Okay, that's not so bad I guess - if my father was a delusional faggot who thought he was a woman, I probably would never want to see him, either.
Instead of sending them money or giving them anything, directly or indirectly, you decided to live with your parents and spend all your money chasing the faggot pipe dream of gender reassignment. FUCK YOU, Zek.
Delusional, dead beat father. Pathological liar. Gender bender tranny cunt. Multiple personalities. Incredibly stupid, faggot, left wing crybaby. Poor, broke, destitute moron. Prostitute. Disgusting piece of shit.
Yeah, those sound like some great qualities for a human being to possess! LOL!
P.S. - It's only a matter of time before you start censoring people because they're saying things you don't agree with and/or, you have one of your typical, crybaby, drama cunt, faggot melt downs like you had on Zoklet. How many of those did you have on Zoklet, you stupid confused faggot? 10? 20? 30?
LOL!
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: mark311 on October 05, 2014, 12:16:42 pm
Holy hell DaGuru, it's gotta hurt holding on to that rage so tightly.
Bottom line: Whoever I am, Arnox has decided to give me a chance. The reality is that I am your mod until (and if) he decides otherwise. I am choosing to maintain anonymity on the "Zoklet identity" front for my own reasons, but it's fine with me if you want to think I'm Zek. Trust me when I say we're all well aware that my actions will be scrutinized very closely for the foreseeable future. If I make any major mistakes Arnox will know, and if that happens I'm fully expecting to lose my moderator status.
And while I can't speak for him, the impression I got was that being disliked or unpopular with a few people is not grounds for dismissal. Maybe he could clarify this if you feel you need him to. Ask nicely imo.
I wouldn't have taken this job if I didn't think I could do it well. This is a website I care about, with the "free speech bbs" unfortunately being a dying breed. My approach to moderation is based on the simple fact that I believe each poster has something unique and worthwhile to add to the forum. It doesn't matter if you hate me or give me a hard time; I don't want to see you go. I don't want to have to ban anyone, and in the event I do my hope is that you come back soon and get to expressing yourselves again in a way that is conducive to thoughtful and funny discussion. Really I want to do the least moderating possible, while still keeping things on track.
We should all be allowed to share our thoughts and opinions without fear of being banned for doing so. Choose to despise me for your uncertain reasons if you would like, but I really hope you recognize that I will not be taking any of that into account when moderating.
Believe it or not, I'm one of the good guys :)
I asked you a very simple, very direct question. Have you ever posted on Zoklet using the HandofZek and/or Lady Julily accounts? I'm more than inclined to believe you are Zek now, since the word "ME" appears in your post almost a dozen times.
I'm so glad you can show this forum more love and care than you ever showed the two children you abandoned. You're a disgusting, twisted freak and a faggot. Fuck you. A gender bending tranny cunt, self obsessed and incapable of not telling lies decides to shift to yet ANOTHER identity. This won't last. You hate yourself just as much as I hate you. You've never been consistent in choosing a personality and the fact you actually have to choose one in the first place is alarming enough.
I suppose, that if I were as broken and fucked up as you, I'd try to convince myself I was someone different, too. God, you're fucking pathetic. You had two children and abandoned them. Okay, that's not so bad I guess - if my father was a delusional faggot who thought he was a woman, I probably would never want to see him, either.
Instead of sending them money or giving them anything, directly or indirectly, you decided to live with your parents and spend all your money chasing the faggot pipe dream of gender reassignment. FUCK YOU, Zek.
Delusional, dead beat father. Pathological liar. Gender bender tranny cunt. Multiple personalities. Incredibly stupid, faggot, left wing crybaby. Poor, broke, destitute moron. Prostitute. Disgusting piece of shit.
Yeah, those sound like some great qualities for a human being to possess! LOL!
P.S. - It's only a matter of time before you start censoring people because they're saying things you don't agree with and/or, you have one of your typical, crybaby, drama cunt, faggot melt downs like you had on Zoklet. How many of those did you have on Zoklet, you stupid confused faggot? 10? 20? 30?
LOL!
Damn Proots why don't you just say how you really feel about it lol
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: DaGuru on October 05, 2014, 12:40:32 pm
P.S. - It's only a matter of time before you start censoring people because they're saying things you don't agree with
Zek is already trying to very subtly censor certain sections, because amazingly enough quite a few threads have been moved out of one section into B&M. He already IS throwing his weight around, because its funny....in a month's time I can't remember seeing even one thread moved to a different section (other than the Trashcan), yet in just 24 hours after Zek is modded several are getting moved around willy nilly. Just one example of that....
The true irony of Proots post above, is if we really wanted to analyze who one of the "nicest" posters on these boards would be...Proots himself would be at the top of most people's list. This is a guy that genuinely is cordial and generous, having given people money and other things countless time in the past....along with his great life wisdom he's shared with everyone. But unlike Zek he still IS a human being with values and principles, and when he comes along a person/poster so vile, so toxic, so hypocritical....then like any REAL MAN with a spine he stands by those principles and still calls a spade a spade.
But in Arnox's mind because Proots puts up some scathing commentary 1/100th of the time towards one of the most useless and disgusting people to ever walk the earth much less post on a BBS.....he'll more than likely not be able understand the truths he spews and forever have a bias towards him because he isn't skipping around the world with some fake personna thinking EVERYTHING in the world is about rainbows and sunshine.
Keep on keeping it real Proots, you are a role model and mentor for all of us....and despite having to state the obvious about this sickening parasite on society, you very much ARE one of the nicest people I've ever "met". Online or off.....
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 05, 2014, 12:58:10 pm
PROOTS!
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 05, 2014, 01:02:23 pm
Proots wasn't made a moderator because he's not active enough (or at least wasn't in the recent past) and I've seen him get flippant a few times such as right now.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: DaGuru on October 05, 2014, 01:34:43 pm
Proots wasn't made a moderator because he's not active enough (or at least wasn't in the recent past) and I've seen him get flippant a few times such as right now.
WTF???? Where did anyone (including Proots himself) imply or suggest we are talking about him being modded? Instead, I'm talking about GENUINE niceness.
And he wasn't "flippant"....instead he's a human being with real morals and lines drawn in the sand, and when you cross them sure he's bound to get a bit emotional and inflammatory towards people that breach his standards.
This is exactly why I was quizzing you a few weeks ago in regard to what you think a "capable" or "professional" moderator trait would be. Because you are looking for unfeeling, unthinking robots.....your whole mantra of "ALWAYS keeping their cool, and NEVER being provoked" is not a reasonable expectation for any human being that is a productive member of society. And again, this isn't about modship, but your very demented idea of what makes a "good" person in general. People that are on a CONSTANT even keel without any mood swings no matter their environment or current experiences are NOT genuine or normal in any sense. They are either just playing out a gimmick, outright sociopaths, or suffering from some other mental malady.
Anger, disgust, indignancy are all NORMAL and very productive emotions that do have its place in a regular person's makeup. The fact you believe a "quality" human being is devoid of EVER expressing themselves with those emotions to any degree is ridiculous. I'm gonna try my best to not attack your character/personna in all of this, but the people you feel "comfortable"(?) with are NOT thriving or sensible human beings at all....instead unthinking/unfeeling automatons that are just empty shells of humanity.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: inb4bowden on October 05, 2014, 01:41:16 pm
I think proots tries to be super diplomatic and cordial on zoklet/sanc for some reason and it's nice to see him drop that facade a bit, it doesn't have to be on such easy targets all the time you know.
Arnox literally modded HandofZek
Just let that sink in for a minute, especially if you were on totse
I don't care enough to link to the encyclopediadramatica page but it's pretty lulzy and fucked up. The word "abomination" comes to mind
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: 47 47 47 on October 05, 2014, 01:45:16 pm
My memory is not so great, but didnt zek stick highlighters up his ass or was that someone else?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: inb4bowden on October 05, 2014, 01:47:35 pm
Zek is already trying to very subtly censor certain sections, because amazingly enough quite a few threads have been moved out of one section into B&M. He already IS throwing his weight around, because its funny....in a month's time I can't remember seeing even one thread moved to a different section (other than the Trashcan), yet in just 24 hours after Zek is modded several are getting moved around willy nilly. Just one example of that....
I had been following the thread for a while, and it was only after there had been several pages of you, SpectraL and Lanny going at each other about the "compatibility" of various operating systems that I moved it. Before that, it was largely full of baseless accusations against a poster with people like SpectraL being especially incendiary. No offense DaGuru, but most any thread you're posting in frequently probably belongs in the complaining forum.
This thread being an interesting exception :P
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: -SpectraL on October 05, 2014, 02:12:06 pm
"Incendiary". I've never been called that before. I kinda like it.
*continues polishing apple on chest*
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 05, 2014, 02:16:31 pm
and when you cross them sure he's bound to get a bit emotional and inflammatory towards people that breach his standards.
The best mods are the ones that, even though they're raging underneath, even though they're incredibly depressed or are feeling betrayed or perhaps even all of that, do not let it interfere in any way with the responsibility that they have. You also may not believe it but people do look up to the site staff as an example, even if it's only subconsciously. As such, they need to be a good example. Is it a tragedy that they let their anger show sometimes? No, but that leads into my second point.
Part of my job is deciding from among the userbase who would be a good mod. Who would be a good leader. And right now, I don't have very much to go off of when it comes to the Zoklet crowd. So, I have to make a decision with what sparse information I have or think I have. I have to analyze everything. And no matter who this equan person may have been in the past, during her time here, I have noticed that she has been active, nice, intelligent, easy-going, and hasn't ever flown off the handle at anyone here at all. I have discussed this with my staff and they have all agreed with me.
So with that in mind, when you guys tell me that this person is one of the most unfit people for modding, I think you'll understand me when I say that it's a little unbelievable to hear considering what I've seen so far.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 05, 2014, 02:19:08 pm
and when you cross them sure he's bound to get a bit emotional and inflammatory towards people that breach his standards.
The best mods are the ones that, even though they're raging underneath, even though they're incredibly depressed or are feeling betrayed or perhaps even all of that, do not let it interfere in any way with the responsibility that they have. You also may not believe it but people do look up to the site staff as an example, even if it's only subconsciously. As such, they need to be a good example. Is it a tragedy that they let their anger show sometimes? No, but that leads into my second point.
Part of my job is deciding from among the userbase who would be a good mod. Who would be a good leader. And right now, I don't have very much to go off of when it comes to the Zoklet crowd. So, I have to make a decision with what sparse information I have or think I have. I have to analyze everything. And no matter who this equan person may have been in the past, during her time here, I have noticed that she has been active, nice, intelligent, easy-going, and hasn't ever flown off the handle at anyone here at all. I have discussed this with my staff and they have all agreed with me.
So with that in mind, when you guys tell me that this person is one of the most unfit people for modding, I think you'll understand me when I say that it's a little unbelievable to hear considering what I've seen so far.
One question: why didn't you mod slave of the beast?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 05, 2014, 02:22:49 pm
'Getting flippant'? what the fuck does that even mean? Proots fucking rules, end of story.
He doesn't seem all that cool to me 8)
Well, you can either be a 'good mod' by staying above the fray and ignoring things like this, or you could try to slum it with the users, but then you will be taken even less seriously than you are now. You are a mod now, and are no longer 'one of us'.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 05, 2014, 02:39:18 pm
Well, you can either be a 'good mod' by staying above the fray and ignoring things like this, or you could try to slum it with the users, but then you will be taken even less seriously than you are now. You are a mod now, and are no longer 'one of us'.
Proots is being kind of a jerk. Acknowledging this isn't really "slumming it up", and ignoring it is honestly most of what I'm doing. And anyway, in my opinion, there's not much difference between users and moderators here. We can still speak our minds as we see fit.
Attacks on Zek's character add nothing constructive to this thread, and have very little to do with the decision to mod me.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 05, 2014, 03:27:51 pm
in my opinion, there's not much difference between users and moderators here.
You are also of the opinion that your cats are 'cannibals' if they eat you, their owner, and 'in your opinion', everyone and everything is one and lambs lay down with lions and the perfect diet is vegan and gun ownership is wrong and violence has no place in the world and that humanity is, at this point in history, ready to leave behind our 'old ways' of disharmony and hate, and that a new, peaceful utopia is being ushered in.
In other words, another example of wishful thinking.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: -SpectraL on October 05, 2014, 03:41:44 pm
Let me break this down for you into a nutshell: if your posts show a zero tolerance for kidiotic nonsense and pointless drivel, you won't be modding here. The mindset is still what sunk both Zoklet and Totse, even at this late date; kidiots can still be considered a "member", and we don't want to ruffle any of their feathers for fear of losing any. "Post more" actually means: let me see if you would boot any proven children off this webspace and we'll make a decision based entirely from that.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 05, 2014, 03:42:54 pm
in my opinion, there's not much difference between users and moderators here.
You are also of the opinion that your cats are 'cannibals' if they eat you, their owner, and 'in your opinion', everyone and everything is one and lambs lay down with lions and the perfect diet is vegan and gun ownership is wrong and violence has no place in the world and that humanity is, at this point in history, ready to leave behind our 'old ways' of disharmony and hate, and that a new, peaceful utopia is being ushered in.
In other words, another example of wishful thinking.
While cutting itself into pieces with razor blades.
One Love.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 05, 2014, 03:48:25 pm
While cutting itself into pieces with razor blades.
One Love.
Hey, I am just 'treating her as an equal' by saying exactly what I want to say, no holds barred. Isn't that what feminists want, to be 'treated as equals'? Well, equa-howthefuckeveryouspellit, I will treat you like you are just another poster here. When you type stupid shit, I will be there to point it out.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 05, 2014, 03:50:29 pm
in my opinion, there's not much difference between users and moderators here.
You are also of the opinion that your cats are 'cannibals' if they eat you, their owner, and 'in your opinion', everyone and everything is one and lambs lay down with lions and the perfect diet is vegan and gun ownership is wrong and violence has no place in the world and that humanity is, at this point in history, ready to leave behind our 'old ways' of disharmony and hate, and that a new, peaceful utopia is being ushered in.
In other words, another example of wishful thinking.
Psh, I only believe half those things ;)
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 05, 2014, 04:01:28 pm
It is fine that you believe what you want to believe, but I have noticed a disturbing tendency of you to place an inordinate amount of importance to these beliefs, in some cases considering them 'facts' rather than 'opinions'. Stop. Stop that.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: DaGuru on October 05, 2014, 04:05:50 pm
The best mods are the ones that, even though they're raging underneath, even though they're incredibly depressed or are feeling betrayed or perhaps even all of that, do not let it interfere in any way with the responsibility that they have. You also may not believe it but people do look up to the site staff as an example, even if it's only subconsciously. As such, they need to be a good example. Is it a tragedy that they let their anger show sometimes? No, but that leads into my second point.
Part of my job is deciding from among the userbase who would be a good mod. Who would be a good leader. And right now, I don't have very much to go off of when it comes to the Zoklet crowd. So, I have to make a decision with what sparse information I have or think I have. I have to analyze everything. And no matter who this equan person may have been in the past, during her time here, I have noticed that she has been active, nice, intelligent, easy-going, and hasn't ever flown off the handle at anyone here at all. I have discussed this with my staff and they have all agreed with me.
So with that in mind, when you guys tell me that this person is one of the most unfit people for modding, I think you'll understand me when I say that it's a little unbelievable to hear considering what I've seen so far.
I'm glad you brought out the "leadership" aspect as a requisite of being a mod, because it was always my belief mods should also be good if not great contributors most of the time when they do post. Since the entire purpose to a message board is to share information, give helpful advice, or at least give a thought provoking opinion....one would hope people that are modded have those necessary attributes.
But in Zek's case,exactly WHERE is all of that? 90% of the time his contribution(?) to a topic is some milquetoast one-liner, and usually its just emotional feel good tripe. Oh sure occasionally he'll make some comment about eating whatever food or "weapons are bad m'kay"....but you NEVER see Zek put up a paragraph or two of much of anything that is informative or thought provoking. Even as despised as I am because of my hard hitting truths about certain members....when I do post about regular topics at the end of the day I can give a sound, informative, and thought provoking opinion...even if you don't agree with it. But Zek comes out with nothing more than grade school babble, with a very simplistic mindset that doesn't show much of an adult outlook much less displaying any "leadership" quality.
Also, I would like to ask....you keep making this grandiose statement of..."this and this makes the BEST kind of moderator". Besides Zek or anyone else on Sanctuary staff, could you please give a couple of finite examples of past "best" moderators in your mind? Knowing you are unfamiliar with Zoklet, go back to Totse if you have to. Because in my mind, the "best ever" on Totse were Jackketch, Slave of the Beast, Arms Merchant, Angry Femme, and Spectral. ALL of these people displayed wonderful leadership qualities, had loads of entertaining contributions, but still had EMOTIONS in play....and could kick ass and takes names when they had to (with or without this dreaded "anger" directing their moderating abilities).
None of them came off as steady robots like you claim is an ideal quality, so I'm very curious to know some of the people you respected as being the "best" moderators you've seen in action.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 05, 2014, 04:09:44 pm
None of them came off as steady robots like you claim is an ideal quality, so I'm very curious to know some of the people you respected as being the "best" moderators you've seen in action.
Yeah, I find it laughable that he disqualifies potential moderators if they have been, how did he put it again? If they...Haha omg, if they 'get flippant'. Having a strong opinion or arguing with other users is an automatic disqualifier. This place is fucked.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 05, 2014, 04:10:30 pm
The best mods are the ones that, even though they're raging underneath, even though they're incredibly depressed or are feeling betrayed or perhaps even all of that, do not let it interfere in any way with the responsibility that they have. You also may not believe it but people do look up to the site staff as an example, even if it's only subconsciously. As such, they need to be a good example. Is it a tragedy that they let their anger show sometimes? No, but that leads into my second point.
Part of my job is deciding from among the userbase who would be a good mod. Who would be a good leader. And right now, I don't have very much to go off of when it comes to the Zoklet crowd. So, I have to make a decision with what sparse information I have or think I have. I have to analyze everything. And no matter who this equan person may have been in the past, during her time here, I have noticed that she has been active, nice, intelligent, easy-going, and hasn't ever flown off the handle at anyone here at all. I have discussed this with my staff and they have all agreed with me.
So with that in mind, when you guys tell me that this person is one of the most unfit people for modding, I think you'll understand me when I say that it's a little unbelievable to hear considering what I've seen so far.
I'm glad you brought out the "leadership" aspect as a requisite of being a mod, because it was always my belief mods should also be good if not great contributors most of the time when they do post. Since the entire purpose to a message board is to share information, give helpful advice, or at least give a thought provoking opinion....one would hope people that are modded have those necessary attributes.
But in Zek's case,exactly WHERE is all of that? 90% of the time his contribution(?) to a topic is some milquetoast one-liner, and usually its just emotional feel good tripe. Oh sure occasionally he'll make some comment about eating whatever food or "weapons are bad m'kay"....but you NEVER see Zek put up a paragraph or two of much of anything that is informative or thought provoking. Even as despised as I am because of my hard hitting truths about certain members....when I do post about regular topics at the end of the day I can give a sound, informative, and thought provoking opinion...even if you don't agree with it. But Zek comes out with nothing more than grade school babble, with a very simplistic mindset that doesn't show much of an adult outlook much less displaying any "leadership" quality.
Also, I would like to ask....you keep making this grandiose statement of..."this and this makes the BEST kind of moderator". Besides Zek or anyone else on Sanctuary staff, could you please give a couple of finite examples of past "best" moderators in your mind? Knowing you are unfamiliar with Zoklet, go back to Totse if you have to. Because in my mind, the "best ever" on Totse were Jackketch, Slave of the Beast, Arms Merchant, Angry Femme, and Spectral. ALL of these people displayed wonderful leadership qualities, had loads of entertaining contributions, but still had EMOTIONS in play....and could kick ass and takes names when they had to (with or without this dreaded "anger" directing their moderating abilities).
None of them came off as steady robots like you claim is an ideal quality, so I'm very curious to know some of the people you respected as being the "best" moderators you've seen in action.
Arnox is a Totse 2 baby that never visited and of the serious discussion forums and had no idea what was going on outside of HB and a few masturbatory threads in GPP who had no idea what a good mod was back then when he was modded on that site then DE MODDED cause he couldn't handle his shit then RE MODDED when the site was going down the tubes and he begged his way back on the staff
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 05, 2014, 04:14:18 pm
It is fine that you believe what you want to believe, but I have noticed a disturbing tendency of you to place an inordinate amount of importance to these beliefs, in some cases considering them 'facts' rather than 'opinions'. Stop. Stop that.
Most (all?) of what you're seeing there is expression of faith in "religious truth". Language is messy business by nature, and I think you've misunderstood some of mine.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 05, 2014, 04:19:43 pm
Most (all?) of what you're seeing there is expression of faith in "religious truth". Language is messy business by nature, and I think you've misunderstood some of mine.
Language is only 'messy' in retrospect. I own anything and everything I type, and it is hard to misunderstand or mistake what I am typing. What is your excuse?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 05, 2014, 04:23:55 pm
Language is only 'messy' in retrospect. I own anything and everything I type, and it is hard to misunderstand or mistake what I am typing. What is your excuse?
Much is lost in translation with language. Always...
What's my excuse? I don't really know. Can you provide me some examples about what you're even talking about? It's easier to talk specifics.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 05, 2014, 04:28:05 pm
Arnox is a Totse 2 baby that never visited and of the serious discussion forums and had no idea what was going on outside of HB and a few masturbatory threads in GPP who had no idea what a good mod was back then when he was modded on that site then DE MODDED cause he couldn't handle his shit then RE MODDED when the site was going down the tubes and he begged his way back on the staff
I'm glad you brought out the "leadership" aspect as a requisite of being a mod, because it was always my belief mods should also be good if not great contributors most of the time when they do post. Since the entire purpose to a message board is to share information, give helpful advice, or at least give a thought provoking opinion....one would hope people that are modded have those necessary attributes.
But in Zek's case,exactly WHERE is all of that? 90% of the time his contribution(?) to a topic is some milquetoast one-liner, and usually its just emotional feel good tripe. Oh sure occasionally he'll make some comment about eating whatever food or "weapons are bad m'kay"....but you NEVER see Zek put up a paragraph or two of much of anything that is informative or thought provoking. Even as despised as I am because of my hard hitting truths about certain members....when I do post about regular topics at the end of the day I can give a sound, informative, and thought provoking opinion...even if you don't agree with it. But Zek comes out with nothing more than grade school babble, with a very simplistic mindset that doesn't show much of an adult outlook much less displaying any "leadership" quality.
Also, I would like to ask....you keep making this grandiose statement of..."this and this makes the BEST kind of moderator". Besides Zek or anyone else on Sanctuary staff, could you please give a couple of finite examples of past "best" moderators in your mind? Knowing you are unfamiliar with Zoklet, go back to Totse if you have to. Because in my mind, the "best ever" on Totse were Jackketch, Slave of the Beast, Arms Merchant, Angry Femme, and Spectral. ALL of these people displayed wonderful leadership qualities, had loads of entertaining contributions, but still had EMOTIONS in play....and could kick ass and takes names when they had to (with or without this dreaded "anger" directing their moderating abilities).
None of them came off as steady robots like you claim is an ideal quality, so I'm very curious to know some of the people you respected as being the "best" moderators you've seen in action.
You know, I just wanna set this all aside for a second and ask you one thing. Why are you so dead set on trying to convince me that equan is a bad mod considering that if she really does start modding unfairly, she'll be demoted right away? If she really is as bad as you say then it's only a matter of time, right?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 05, 2014, 04:31:17 pm
Arnox is a Totse 2 baby that never visited and of the serious discussion forums and had no idea what was going on outside of HB and a few masturbatory threads in GPP who had no idea what a good mod was back then when he was modded on that site then DE MODDED cause he couldn't handle his shit then RE MODDED when the site was going down the tubes and he begged his way back on the staff
(http://i.imgur.com/me3v4I6.gif)
Please feel free to dispute the inconsistencies and mind you I was a mod at the time and got to see and hrar all of your begging to be made a mod again. I was also witness first hand at your inability to comprehend or be a part of multiple threads on any subforum with real informational discussion.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 05, 2014, 04:31:49 pm
Much is lost in translation with language. Always...
This is only true if one is unable to fully articulate their statement. In such a situation, one can always qualify the language used by pointing out the intent behind the words.
Can you provide me some examples about what you're even talking about? It's easier to talk specifics.
No it isn't necessarily easier, but there is a time and place to talk specifics. Now is not one of them, because bogging the argument down further by dicing it to pieces will do no good here. But because I am high, I will, off the top of my head, provide two statements and we can compare them.
Me: 'I don't want to be rude and tell you to shut the fuck up, but...shut the fuck up'
You: 'We are all one with the rivers and the plants and the earth and the universe'
Now, which statement is unclear, and full of assumptions, and has elements that are 'lost in translation'? Certainly not mine.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 05, 2014, 04:35:05 pm
Please feel free to dispute the inconsistencies and mind you I was a mod at the time and got to see and here all of your begging to be made a mod again. I was also witness first hand at your inability to comprehend or be a part of multiple threads on any subforum with real informational discussion.
Well, personally, I thought the part where you said I never contributed to the "serious" forums ever was pretty good stuff. But either way, I think I'm done feeding you for the day. Go find something else to do.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 05, 2014, 04:40:16 pm
Please feel free to dispute the inconsistencies and mind you I was a mod at the time and got to see and here all of your begging to be made a mod again. I was also witness first hand at your inability to comprehend or be a part of multiple threads on any subforum with real informational discussion.
Well, personally, I thought the part where you said I never contributed to the "serious" forums ever was pretty good stuff. But either way, I think I'm done feeding you for the day. Go find something else to do.
Well I surely would amend my statement if it were not true I remember quite well how you got laughed out of multiple discussions on the In the woods forum W&C and even some of your own GPP threads for posting BS and generally not doing any research of topics you wrote on.
But as usual you dismiss your criticisms with your typical high horse attitude but it's ok I know you can't refute most of them so go ahead and try to play it off to this crowd as "trolling" you're a joke
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 05, 2014, 04:43:19 pm
This is only true if one is unable to fully articulate their statement. In such a situation, one can always qualify the language used by pointing out the intent behind the words.
This is my religious belief. Much of who we are, what we understand, and wish to express is lost in the translation from mind to speech. In many ways we can never really know a person. Even if we share a belief, our understanding of and relationship to that belief will be different. Our own subjective experiences are the only experiences we can verify. That's not to say that you don't exist except in my mind, just that our realities are sort of irreconcilably separated in this way. We'll find our way back together again in the end, and it will be beautiful, but that is probably a loooong ways off.
No it isn't necessarily easier, but there is a time and place to talk specifics. Now is not one of them, because bogging the argument down further by dicing it to pieces will do no good here. But because I am high, I will, off the top of my head, provide two statements and we can compare them.
Me: 'I don't want to be rude and tell you to shut the fuck up, but...shut the fuck up'
You: 'We are all one with the rivers and the plants and the earth and the universe'
Now, which statement is unclear, and full of assumptions, and has elements that are 'lost in translation'? Certainly not mine.
Both of them. Mine was kind of facetious and I'm actually surprised you didn't pick up on that haha. It's fun to laugh at yourself from time to time :)
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 05, 2014, 04:45:09 pm
The best mods are the ones that, even though they're raging underneath, even though they're incredibly depressed or are feeling betrayed or perhaps even all of that, do not let it interfere in any way with the responsibility that they have. You also may not believe it but people do look up to the site staff as an example, even if it's only subconsciously. As such, they need to be a good example. Is it a tragedy that they let their anger show sometimes? No, but that leads into my second point.
Part of my job is deciding from among the userbase who would be a good mod. Who would be a good leader. And right now, I don't have very much to go off of when it comes to the Zoklet crowd. So, I have to make a decision with what sparse information I have or think I have. I have to analyze everything. And no matter who this equan person may have been in the past, during her time here, I have noticed that she has been active, nice, intelligent, easy-going, and hasn't ever flown off the handle at anyone here at all. I have discussed this with my staff and they have all agreed with me.
So with that in mind, when you guys tell me that this person is one of the most unfit people for modding, I think you'll understand me when I say that it's a little unbelievable to hear considering what I've seen so far.
I'm glad you brought out the "leadership" aspect as a requisite of being a mod, because it was always my belief mods should also be good if not great contributors most of the time when they do post. Since the entire purpose to a message board is to share information, give helpful advice, or at least give a thought provoking opinion....one would hope people that are modded have those necessary attributes.
But in Zek's case,exactly WHERE is all of that? 90% of the time his contribution(?) to a topic is some milquetoast one-liner, and usually its just emotional feel good tripe. Oh sure occasionally he'll make some comment about eating whatever food or "weapons are bad m'kay"....but you NEVER see Zek put up a paragraph or two of much of anything that is informative or thought provoking. Even as despised as I am because of my hard hitting truths about certain members....when I do post about regular topics at the end of the day I can give a sound, informative, and thought provoking opinion...even if you don't agree with it. But Zek comes out with nothing more than grade school babble, with a very simplistic mindset that doesn't show much of an adult outlook much less displaying any "leadership" quality.
Also, I would like to ask....you keep making this grandiose statement of..."this and this makes the BEST kind of moderator". Besides Zek or anyone else on Sanctuary staff, could you please give a couple of finite examples of past "best" moderators in your mind? Knowing you are unfamiliar with Zoklet, go back to Totse if you have to. Because in my mind, the "best ever" on Totse were Jackketch, Slave of the Beast, Arms Merchant, Angry Femme, and Spectral. ALL of these people displayed wonderful leadership qualities, had loads of entertaining contributions, but still had EMOTIONS in play....and could kick ass and takes names when they had to (with or without this dreaded "anger" directing their moderating abilities).
None of them came off as steady robots like you claim is an ideal quality, so I'm very curious to know some of the people you respected as being the "best" moderators you've seen in action.
Don't just ignore this one, yo.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 05, 2014, 04:53:12 pm
Both of them. Mine was kind of facetious and I'm actually surprised you didn't pick up on that haha
I don't believe this for a second, because there when you made the original statement, there was no humorous subtext going on. You were 100% serious as a heart attack.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 05, 2014, 04:53:15 pm
All Arnox does when called out is ignore it's his modus operandi he consistently has ignored any factual statements anyone has put in front of him
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 05, 2014, 04:54:44 pm
This is only true if one is unable to fully articulate their statement. In such a situation, one can always qualify the language used by pointing out the intent behind the words.
This is my religious belief. Much of who we are, what we understand, and wish to express is lost in the translation from mind to speech. In many ways we can never really know a person. Even if we share a belief, our understanding of and relationship to that belief will be different. Our own subjective experiences are the only experiences we can verify. That's not to say that you don't exist except in my mind, just that our realities are sort of irreconcilably separated in this way. We'll find our way back together again in the end, and it will be beautiful, but that is probably a loooong ways off.
No it isn't necessarily easier, but there is a time and place to talk specifics. Now is not one of them, because bogging the argument down further by dicing it to pieces will do no good here. But because I am high, I will, off the top of my head, provide two statements and we can compare them.
Me: 'I don't want to be rude and tell you to shut the fuck up, but...shut the fuck up'
You: 'We are all one with the rivers and the plants and the earth and the universe'
Now, which statement is unclear, and full of assumptions, and has elements that are 'lost in translation'? Certainly not mine.
Both of them. Mine was kind of facetious and I'm actually surprised you didn't pick up on that haha. It's fun to laugh at yourself from time to time :)
Your description of lost in translation sounds a lot more like an autism spectrum disorder of not being able to differentiate social cues and norms
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 05, 2014, 04:55:18 pm
Both of them. Mine was kind of facetious and I'm actually surprised you didn't pick up on that haha
I don't believe this for a second, because there when you made the original statement, there was no humorous subtext going on. You were 100% serious as a heart attack.
Well I was being 100% serious too! But I made myself smile writing that, knowing how ridiculous you would find it.
*shrug*
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: zok jr. on October 05, 2014, 04:55:25 pm
Who cares if zek is a mod I think its funny, personally.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: splooge gook on October 05, 2014, 04:56:56 pm
this thread has run its course, time to watch the first 3 seasons of spongebob
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: DaGuru on October 05, 2014, 04:57:44 pm
You know, I just wanna set this all aside for a second and ask you one thing. Why are you so dead set on trying to convince me that equan is a bad mod considering that if she really does start modding unfairly, she'll be demoted right away? If she really is as bad as you say then it's only a matter of time, right?
2 reasons. The first being picking apart your own logic in regards to your decision in modding Zek. I'm not really trying to convince you of anything....instead point out the conflict between what you discuss in "theory" versus the actual practical application of those theories. As I said, you talk about "leadership", but Zek hasn't shown any of those traits. And you also talk about "professionalism", and Zek hasn't shown any of that either. Lastly, you talk about vague ideologies of what makes "the best moderators"....but won't produce finite examples of people you respected as moderator in the past.
Second reason is my own ego in all of his. Because WHEN (not if) this all does play out exactly as myself and several others have described to you...it will just add further delight and whimsy to this whole farcical chapter of Sanctuary's history. Kinda like Babe Ruth calling his shots before he blasts one over the fence, my prophecy/expectations in all of this ARE that certain.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 05, 2014, 04:59:25 pm
I believe 100% in what I said, but it was funny to me knowing that you think I'm full of hot air. And I chose to word it as I did thinking you would catch on about me poking fun at our differences. Kinda ruins it spelling it out like that, but there you go :P
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 05, 2014, 05:17:23 pm
No, I actually accused you of being deadly serious. And I was right. Don't go trying to revise your intent to try to seem cool, because I wake up pretty early in the morning to fool me...err wait, you gotta wake up early in the morning to fool me...or something.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 05, 2014, 05:18:45 pm
The early bird gets the worm?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 05, 2014, 05:21:56 pm
Dammit cats. We derailed the fuck out of this thread. If it goes much further I'm gonna have to infract myself :P
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 05, 2014, 05:23:34 pm
I'll just post this link here because everyone seems to read this thread.
Dammit cats. We derailed the fuck out of this thread. If it goes much further I'm gonna have to infract myself :P
I am a goddamn locomotive. But a good part of this thread is discussing your appointment as moderator, so consider this part of the 'vetting' process, applied retroactively.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 05, 2014, 05:39:26 pm
Proots wasn't made a moderator because he's not active enough (or at least wasn't in the recent past) and I've seen him get flippant a few times such as right now.
I will say this right now for all to see - and, I've said it on Zoklet before. I will never, ever volunteer my time to moderate a website. Not this one, not anyone. Ever.
Also, it is worth mentioning that I have absolutely no qualms with the other moderator Arnox elected.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 05, 2014, 11:40:28 pm
I will say this right now for all to see - and, I've said it on Zoklet before. I will never, ever volunteer my time to moderate a website. Not this one, not anyone. Ever.
Also, it is worth mentioning that I have absolutely no qualms with the other moderator Arnox elected.
Look out, arnox! Proots is 'getting flippant' again!
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 05, 2014, 11:41:54 pm
flippancy the enemy of free speech
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Proots on October 05, 2014, 11:42:11 pm
Well, you can either be a 'good mod' by staying above the fray and ignoring things like this, or you could try to slum it with the users, but then you will be taken even less seriously than you are now. You are a mod now, and are no longer 'one of us'.
Proots is being kind of a jerk. Acknowledging this isn't really "slumming it up", and ignoring it is honestly most of what I'm doing. And anyway, in my opinion, there's not much difference between users and moderators here. We can still speak our minds as we see fit.
Attacks on Zek's character add nothing constructive to this thread, and have very little to do with the decision to mod me.
Actually, they have everything to do with the decision to mod you, since time and time and time and time and time and time and time again, you've proven yourself to be a deceitful, lying, delusional, mentally ill, borderline schizophrenic, tranny cunt, deadbeat piece of shit.
I also think that in your stupid, warped, tranny cunt, faggot brain - you think I'm "being a jerk". Let's break it down :
1. You abandoned your children. You're a deadbeat dad and have never spent a CENT towards them, instead, choosing to spend all of your money on yourself and your own faggot desires.
2. You're a pathological liar.
3. You're conceited, self absorbed, selfish and delusional. You never think about anything or anyone other than yourself.
Yes, I'm the jerk here. LOL!
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 05, 2014, 11:52:46 pm
Dammit cats. We derailed the fuck out of this thread. If it goes much further I'm gonna have to infract myself :P
Are you HandofZek?
[ ] Yes [ ] No [ ] Maybe
It's definitely Zek, because any other well adjusted person would have said "No" if they weren't. Instead, Zek relishes the attention that the ambiguity brings it.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Juicebox on October 06, 2014, 01:37:31 am
Y did u ban inb4bowden??
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 06, 2014, 01:38:18 am
You can see the reasons listed in the ban list. He still has an active account, FYI.
I saw the "PI" which was screenshots of zocklet which is insane to call that pi, and I saw him bringing up negative points in threads about the way this site is looks like you love looking for reasons to ban someone you don't like this one might be semi legit but it's a good indication of how things are gonna go very quickly with you as a mod
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 06, 2014, 02:41:21 am
I saw the "PI" which was screenshots of zocklet which is insane to call that pi, and I saw him bringing up negative points in threads about the way this site is looks like you love looking for reasons to ban someone you don't like this one might be semi legit but it's a good indication of how things are gonna go very quickly with you as a mod
You're trolling me, right? ;)
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Slave of the Beast on October 06, 2014, 08:09:31 am
Why, prior to any confirmation that they are the same poster, should people be banned for posting Zek's PI when 'Equan' has already strongly implied she isn't Zek?
Then I guess there's nothing to worry about if she isn't Zek.
You haven't answered my question. I'll rephrase it: would you retrospectively ban Poster A for posting PI of Poster B, when Poster B has previously denied (explicitly or otherwise) being the owner of said PI, only to later claim they are the owner of the PI?
In this case Equanimity implied she was not Zek, Zek's PI was then posted, the PI poster was then threatened with a ban if Equanimity changed her story and claimed she was Zek. In essence a ban would have been handed out to a member as a consequence of you being trolled by one of your own mods.
Is this how the scenario would have played out, Arnox?
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 06, 2014, 08:53:11 am
Why, prior to any confirmation that they are the same poster, should people be banned for posting Zek's PI when 'Equan' has already strongly implied she isn't Zek?
Then I guess there's nothing to worry about if she isn't Zek.
You haven't answered my question. I'll rephrase it: would you retrospectively ban Poster A for posting PI of Poster B, when Poster B has previously denied (explicitly or otherwise) being the owner of said PI, only to later claim they are the owner of the PI?
In this case Equanimity implied she was not Zek, Zek's PI was then posted, the PI poster was then threatened with a ban if Equanimity changed her story and claimed she was Zek. In essence a ban would have been handed out to a member as a consequence of you being trolled by one of your own mods.
Is this how the scenario would have played out, Arnox?
My understanding is that anyone choosing to post known PI is assuming the risk for doing so. Just because I'm insisting I'm not Zek doesn't mean she's not posting on another account, and that risk has been there from the start. If she comes forward and is verified on any account this will be considered PI.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 06, 2014, 09:05:04 am
You haven't answered my question. I'll rephrase it: would you retrospectively ban Poster A for posting PI of Poster B, when Poster B has previously denied (explicitly or otherwise) being the owner of said PI, only to later claim they are the owner of the PI?
In this case Equanimity implied she was not Zek, Zek's PI was then posted, the PI poster was then threatened with a ban if Equanimity changed her story and claimed she was Zek. In essence a ban would have been handed out to a member as a consequence of you being trolled by one of your own mods.
Is this how the scenario would have played out, Arnox?
No. If a poster says something is not PI and then later turns around and says it is, the person posting it will still not be banned. HOWEVER, wherever the person's PI is found, it will now be deleted. And any more future posting of PI of that person will be punished from then on.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Slave of the Beast on October 06, 2014, 09:33:39 am
Why, prior to any confirmation that they are the same poster, should people be banned for posting Zek's PI when 'Equan' has already strongly implied she isn't Zek?
Then I guess there's nothing to worry about if she isn't Zek.
You haven't answered my question. I'll rephrase it: would you retrospectively ban Poster A for posting PI of Poster B, when Poster B has previously denied (explicitly or otherwise) being the owner of said PI, only to later claim they are the owner of the PI?
In this case Equanimity implied she was not Zek, Zek's PI was then posted, the PI poster was then threatened with a ban if Equanimity changed her story and claimed she was Zek. In essence a ban would have been handed out to a member as a consequence of you being trolled by one of your own mods.
Is this how the scenario would have played out, Arnox?
My understanding is that anyone choosing to post known PI is assuming the risk for doing so. Just because I'm insisting I'm not Zek doesn't mean she's not posting on another account, and that risk has been there from the start. If she comes forward and is verified on any account this will be considered PI.
You are raising a different issue, that notwithstanding:
Members are currently freely allowed by Arnox to post 'known PI' of non-members. He, and by extension every member of his staff, is therefore complicite in the non-member-PI poster's actions. The PI, if complained about by the PI-owner after the fact, should be removed and any further attempt to post it should be met with punishment.
The alternative is banning people for someone that the staff have tacitly sanctioned, by allowing it to remain on the board in the first place. Such a 'post at the risk of us banning you for something we let slide as little as a few minutes ago' policy will cause Arnox considerable drama in the long run.
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In contrast the scenario I described is not one were someone comes forward 'out of the blue' to claim their PI, but where a member of staff has changed their story in order, it could potentially seem, to get another member banned by the Admin. That would lead to more drama than a production by the Royal Shakespeare Company.
EDIT: I typed the above before seeing Arnox's response.
Still, he did say I needed to 'post moar'. Maybe he'll soon think I need to post less. ;D
You haven't answered my question. I'll rephrase it: would you retrospectively ban Poster A for posting PI of Poster B, when Poster B has previously denied (explicitly or otherwise) being the owner of said PI, only to later claim they are the owner of the PI?
In this case Equanimity implied she was not Zek, Zek's PI was then posted, the PI poster was then threatened with a ban if Equanimity changed her story and claimed she was Zek. In essence a ban would have been handed out to a member as a consequence of you being trolled by one of your own mods.
Is this how the scenario would have played out, Arnox?
No. If a poster says something is not PI and then later turns around and says it is, the person posting it will still not be banned. HOWEVER, wherever the person's PI is found, it will now be deleted. And any more future posting of PI of that person will be punished from then on.
That is reassuringly sensible. Thank you for responding to and clarifying that point, Arnox.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 06, 2014, 10:09:14 am
That is reassuringly sensible. Thank you for responding to and clarifying that point, Arnox.
No prob.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 06, 2014, 06:29:46 pm
Well, apparently, Arnox knows equinimity's Zoklet username so either Zek is lying to him and his shiny white armor blinds his eyes or he knows that Zek is Zek and actively broke his own fucking rules by allowing me to post the - absolutely publicly available - PI.
Arnox;
You say no stupid deals will be made with the userbase - You change Mike's username to fluffy cats or some shit because equan told you so.
You say no posts will be deleted - You put equan's post count down because it makes it feel better about itself(?)
You say
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Make no mistake. Who gets picked as staff here is treated INCREDIBLY seriously. If the admins pick someone to be staff (all global moderators, and admins must be approved by the existing admin or admins), it will be because they have excelled completely. The people we pick must be model posters. We will only accept the best and will expect a lot out of them no matter who they are. They will be held to a very high standard but, as a result, they will BE the standard and will also hold a very high level of respect from me and the other admins. They are the keepers of the Sanctuary.
You mod equanimity.
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They will be held to a very high standard but, as a result, they will BE the standard.
equanimity.
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They are the keepers of the Sanctuary.
equanimity.
:facepalm:
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 06, 2014, 06:31:12 pm
Everybody hates you.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: DaGuru on October 06, 2014, 06:37:12 pm
You say no posts will be deleted - You put equan's post count down because it makes it feel better about itself(?)
Wait a sec, this one must have gotten by me.....are you saying Arnox either deleted Zek's posts, or just fucked with the tally of Zek's postcount? Please elaborate just a little more......
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 06, 2014, 06:44:08 pm
You say no posts will be deleted - You put equan's post count down because it makes it feel better about itself(?)
Wait a sec, this one must have gotten by me.....are you saying Arnox either deleted Zek's posts, or just fucked with the tally of Zek's postcount? Please elaborate just a little more......
I don't know? He(Zek) attention whored and his post count dropped. I don't know if he(Arnox) actually deleted any of his(Zek's) posts but I don't really give a shit either way.
I just know that he would only do this for Zekanimity because he's such a white knighting permavirgin Mormon faggot and it's pissing me off.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Spectre on October 06, 2014, 07:02:59 pm
You say no posts will be deleted - You put equan's post count down because it makes it feel better about itself(?)
Wait a sec, this one must have gotten by me.....are you saying Arnox either deleted Zek's posts, or just fucked with the tally of Zek's postcount? Please elaborate just a little more......
I don't know? He(Zek) attention whored and his post count dropped. I don't know if he(Arnox) actually deleted any of his(Zek's) posts but I don't really give a shit either way.
I just know that he would only do this for Zekanimity because he's such a white knighting permavirgin Mormon faggot and it's pissing me off.
pretty much this Arnox's pathetic social interactions are shitting on the site even more than usual
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Slave of the Beast on October 06, 2014, 07:17:53 pm
You say no posts will be deleted - You put equan's post count down because it makes it feel better about itself(?)
Wait a sec, this one must have gotten by me.....are you saying Arnox either deleted Zek's posts, or just fucked with the tally of Zek's postcount? Please elaborate just a little more......
Thanks for that find Slave, it did get lost on my radar because of Proots wisdom a few posts later.
Arnox, you didn't elaborate exactly WHY you changed Zek's post count....but Risir's theory holds completely true. That IS the kind of thing Zek would request.... bothering you with some stupid, nonsensical, idiotic favor to satiate whatever was going through his demented mind that hour.
Its funny, you actually were trying to "defend Zek" because of being modded with his low post count....but in the end you just put a huge fuckin spotlight on the fact of what kind of unstable weirdo he really is. Even if you are still going to play the "ignorant card" claiming you don't believe its Zek (even though that kind of request is Zek's M.O. to a "T")....there is no way you can explain how someone worrying about their post count (and how it makes them feel *giggles*) is in any weigh shape or form an aspect of someone exuding a "professional" mindset, much less should be "leading" anything involved with dealing with actual ADULTS.
Thanks again Risier and Slave....I appreciate you finding this golden nugget that sheds quite a bit of light on much.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 06, 2014, 07:37:39 pm
Don't do that with my name, yo.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 06, 2014, 07:38:03 pm
You say no stupid deals will be made with the userbase - You change Mike's username to fluffy cats or some shit because equan told you so.
You say no posts will be deleted - You put equan's post count down because it makes it feel better about itself(?)
That wasn't a deal. :P And literally lasted for all of 5 minutes.
No posts were deleted. Her post count was just reset all the way back to 0. You can still see all of her posts on the forum and view a list of all of them on her profile. Why? Do you want your post count reset as well? I can do that.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 06, 2014, 07:41:01 pm
Could you make my post count say 'Arnox is a faggot'? No? Go fuckyourself.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: RisiR on October 06, 2014, 07:43:58 pm
I'm not really that mad, actually.
Just let it be.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Arnox on October 06, 2014, 07:44:43 pm
Her post count was just reset all the way back to 0.
Why?
Because, when you're a delusional, self absorbed, mentally ill piece of shit - doing anything in your power to maintain the illusion and facade that you are whatever you say you are at any given time is a prerequisite to being someone as egotistical, yet mildly retarded as Zek.
It wants to appear to be more around the average of everyone else. Just another action symptomatic of a person whose entire identity is wrapped around being something it isn't.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: aldra on October 07, 2014, 01:53:11 am
zeklet.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: DaGuru on October 07, 2014, 02:55:36 am
Slight neuroticism. I feel better with a postcount near the perceived average. Didn't think it was a big deal for it to be changed (it's not).
Of course you don't think its a big deal, because you are mentally deranged and all this experience is, is some whimsical little GAME for you to play. But see, the rest of us see it exposing 2 things in all of this.
1) Your "please reset my post count" request IS very much the kind of inane and petty thing Zek would request.....so its just more breadcrumbs leading right to your door further proving what kind of game player and pathological liar you are.
2) Despite Arnox's requisites of a moderator being "professional" and somewhat "stable"....this nonsense proves you are neither, and absolutely do have mental and emotional hiccups. Its not just putting egg on YOUR face, but Arnox's as well....since as long as he continues to appease all of these silly quirks of yours he's betraying his own words in regard to what he really wanted from a moderator.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: equanimity on October 07, 2014, 03:36:04 am
Keep fighting the good fight, DaGuru. I have faith that someday, through the hard work and dedication of heroes such as yourself, discussion forums the world over will be free of injustice and cruelty.
Godspeed, soldier.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: fanglekai on October 07, 2014, 03:53:50 am
Keep fighting the good fight, DaGuru. I have faith that someday, through the hard work and dedication of heroes such as yourself, discussion forums the world over will be free of injustice and cruelty.
Godspeed, soldier.
you make this place shittier.
Title: Re: New Global Moderators
Post by: Rocklin on October 07, 2014, 04:25:19 am