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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #225 on: October 06, 2014, 02:23:52 am »

Everyone is permitted two accounts. One is to be used when banned, the other is to be employed for posting CP, PI and other assorted no-nos.

*this has been a Public Service Announcement from the Better Business of Bad Guys*

He really is a quality poster when he's not being dumb.  Hoping he'll see the light, but if not... :(


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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #226 on: October 06, 2014, 02:35:40 am »
Y did u ban inb4bowden??

fucking this


here we go

You can see the reasons listed in the ban list.  He still has an active account, FYI.

I saw the "PI" which was screenshots of zocklet which is insane to call that pi, and I saw him bringing up negative points in threads about the way this site is looks like you love looking for reasons to ban someone you don't like this one might be semi legit but it's a good indication of how things are gonna go very quickly with you as a mod

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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #227 on: October 06, 2014, 02:41:21 am »
I saw the "PI" which was screenshots of zocklet which is insane to call that pi, and I saw him bringing up negative points in threads about the way this site is looks like you love looking for reasons to ban someone you don't like this one might be semi legit but it's a good indication of how things are gonna go very quickly with you as a mod

You're trolling me, right? ;)


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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #228 on: October 06, 2014, 08:09:31 am »
Why, prior to any confirmation that they are the same poster, should people be banned for posting Zek's PI when 'Equan' has already strongly implied she isn't Zek?

Then I guess there's nothing to worry about if she isn't Zek.

You haven't answered my question. I'll rephrase it: would you retrospectively ban Poster A for posting PI of Poster B, when Poster B has previously denied (explicitly or otherwise) being the owner of said PI, only to later claim they are the owner of the PI?

In this case Equanimity implied she was not Zek, Zek's PI was then posted, the PI poster was then threatened with a ban if Equanimity changed her story and claimed she was Zek. In essence a ban would have been handed out to a member as a consequence of you being trolled by one of your own mods.

Is this how the scenario would have played out, Arnox?

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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #229 on: October 06, 2014, 08:53:11 am »
Why, prior to any confirmation that they are the same poster, should people be banned for posting Zek's PI when 'Equan' has already strongly implied she isn't Zek?

Then I guess there's nothing to worry about if she isn't Zek.

You haven't answered my question. I'll rephrase it: would you retrospectively ban Poster A for posting PI of Poster B, when Poster B has previously denied (explicitly or otherwise) being the owner of said PI, only to later claim they are the owner of the PI?

In this case Equanimity implied she was not Zek, Zek's PI was then posted, the PI poster was then threatened with a ban if Equanimity changed her story and claimed she was Zek. In essence a ban would have been handed out to a member as a consequence of you being trolled by one of your own mods.

Is this how the scenario would have played out, Arnox?

My understanding is that anyone choosing to post known PI is assuming the risk for doing so. Just because I'm insisting I'm not Zek doesn't mean she's not posting on another account, and that risk has been there from the start.  If she comes forward and is verified on any account this will be considered PI.


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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #230 on: October 06, 2014, 09:05:04 am »
You haven't answered my question. I'll rephrase it: would you retrospectively ban Poster A for posting PI of Poster B, when Poster B has previously denied (explicitly or otherwise) being the owner of said PI, only to later claim they are the owner of the PI?

In this case Equanimity implied she was not Zek, Zek's PI was then posted, the PI poster was then threatened with a ban if Equanimity changed her story and claimed she was Zek. In essence a ban would have been handed out to a member as a consequence of you being trolled by one of your own mods.

Is this how the scenario would have played out, Arnox?

No. If a poster says something is not PI and then later turns around and says it is, the person posting it will still not be banned. HOWEVER, wherever the person's PI is found, it will now be deleted. And any more future posting of PI of that person will be punished from then on.


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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #231 on: October 06, 2014, 09:33:39 am »
Why, prior to any confirmation that they are the same poster, should people be banned for posting Zek's PI when 'Equan' has already strongly implied she isn't Zek?

Then I guess there's nothing to worry about if she isn't Zek.

You haven't answered my question. I'll rephrase it: would you retrospectively ban Poster A for posting PI of Poster B, when Poster B has previously denied (explicitly or otherwise) being the owner of said PI, only to later claim they are the owner of the PI?

In this case Equanimity implied she was not Zek, Zek's PI was then posted, the PI poster was then threatened with a ban if Equanimity changed her story and claimed she was Zek. In essence a ban would have been handed out to a member as a consequence of you being trolled by one of your own mods.

Is this how the scenario would have played out, Arnox?

My understanding is that anyone choosing to post known PI is assuming the risk for doing so. Just because I'm insisting I'm not Zek doesn't mean she's not posting on another account, and that risk has been there from the start.  If she comes forward and is verified on any account this will be considered PI.

You are raising a different issue, that notwithstanding:

Members are currently freely allowed by Arnox to post 'known PI' of non-members. He, and by extension every member of his staff, is therefore complicite in the non-member-PI poster's actions. The PI, if complained about by the PI-owner after the fact, should be removed and any further attempt to post it should be met with punishment.

The alternative is banning people for someone that the staff have tacitly sanctioned, by allowing it to remain on the board in the first place. Such a 'post at the risk of us banning you for something we let slide as little as a few minutes ago' policy will cause Arnox considerable drama in the long run.

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In contrast the scenario I described is not one were someone comes forward 'out of the blue' to claim their PI, but where a member of staff has changed their story in order, it could potentially seem, to get another member banned by the Admin. That would lead to more drama than a production by the Royal Shakespeare Company.

EDIT: I typed the above before seeing Arnox's response.

Still, he did say I needed to 'post moar'. Maybe he'll soon think I need to post less.  ;D

You haven't answered my question. I'll rephrase it: would you retrospectively ban Poster A for posting PI of Poster B, when Poster B has previously denied (explicitly or otherwise) being the owner of said PI, only to later claim they are the owner of the PI?

In this case Equanimity implied she was not Zek, Zek's PI was then posted, the PI poster was then threatened with a ban if Equanimity changed her story and claimed she was Zek. In essence a ban would have been handed out to a member as a consequence of you being trolled by one of your own mods.

Is this how the scenario would have played out, Arnox?

No. If a poster says something is not PI and then later turns around and says it is, the person posting it will still not be banned. HOWEVER, wherever the person's PI is found, it will now be deleted. And any more future posting of PI of that person will be punished from then on.

That is reassuringly sensible. Thank you for responding to and clarifying that point, Arnox.
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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #232 on: October 06, 2014, 10:09:14 am »
That is reassuringly sensible. Thank you for responding to and clarifying that point, Arnox.

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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #233 on: October 06, 2014, 06:29:46 pm »
Well, apparently, Arnox knows equinimity's Zoklet username so either Zek is lying to him and his shiny white armor blinds his eyes or he knows that Zek is Zek and actively broke his own fucking rules by allowing me to post the - absolutely publicly available - PI.

Arnox;

You say no stupid deals will be made with the userbase - You change Mike's username to fluffy cats or some shit because equan told you so.

You say no posts will be deleted - You put equan's post count down because it makes it feel better about itself(?)

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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #234 on: October 06, 2014, 06:31:12 pm »
Everybody hates you.
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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #235 on: October 06, 2014, 06:37:12 pm »


You say no posts will be deleted - You put equan's post count down because it makes it feel better about itself(?)



Wait a sec, this one must have gotten by me.....are you saying Arnox either deleted Zek's posts, or just fucked with the tally of Zek's postcount? Please elaborate just a little more......

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« Reply #236 on: October 06, 2014, 06:44:08 pm »


You say no posts will be deleted - You put equan's post count down because it makes it feel better about itself(?)



Wait a sec, this one must have gotten by me.....are you saying Arnox either deleted Zek's posts, or just fucked with the tally of Zek's postcount? Please elaborate just a little more......
I don't know? He(Zek) attention whored and his post count dropped. I don't know if he(Arnox) actually deleted any of his(Zek's) posts but I don't really give a shit either way.

I just know that he would only do this for Zekanimity because he's such a white knighting permavirgin Mormon faggot and it's pissing me off.
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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #237 on: October 06, 2014, 07:02:59 pm »


You say no posts will be deleted - You put equan's post count down because it makes it feel better about itself(?)



Wait a sec, this one must have gotten by me.....are you saying Arnox either deleted Zek's posts, or just fucked with the tally of Zek's postcount? Please elaborate just a little more......
I don't know? He(Zek) attention whored and his post count dropped. I don't know if he(Arnox) actually deleted any of his(Zek's) posts but I don't really give a shit either way.

I just know that he would only do this for Zekanimity because he's such a white knighting permavirgin Mormon faggot and it's pissing me off.

pretty much this Arnox's pathetic social interactions are shitting on the site even more than usual

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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #238 on: October 06, 2014, 07:17:53 pm »


You say no posts will be deleted - You put equan's post count down because it makes it feel better about itself(?)



Wait a sec, this one must have gotten by me.....are you saying Arnox either deleted Zek's posts, or just fucked with the tally of Zek's postcount? Please elaborate just a little more......

Actually, she has more than that but has asked me to drop them down to 0 for her once.

She probably has around... What, 500 posts I think in reality?

EDIT: Checked. Around 800.

This is the post I believe RisiR is referring to.

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Re: New Global Moderators
« Reply #239 on: October 06, 2014, 07:29:11 pm »


This is the post I believe RisiR is referring to.

Thanks for that find Slave, it did get lost on my radar because of Proots wisdom a few posts later.

Arnox, you didn't elaborate exactly WHY you changed Zek's post count....but Risir's theory holds completely true. That IS the kind of thing Zek would request.... bothering you with some stupid, nonsensical, idiotic favor to satiate whatever was going through his demented mind that hour.

Its funny, you actually were trying to "defend Zek" because of being modded with his low post count....but in the end you just put a huge fuckin spotlight on the fact of what kind of unstable weirdo he really is. Even if you are still going to play the "ignorant card" claiming you don't believe its Zek (even though that kind of request is Zek's M.O. to a "T")....there is no way you can explain how someone worrying about their post count (and how it makes them feel *giggles*) is in any weigh shape or form an aspect of someone exuding a "professional" mindset, much less should be "leading" anything involved with dealing with actual ADULTS.

Thanks again Risier and Slave....I appreciate you finding this golden nugget that sheds quite a bit of light on much.