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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2175 on: November 28, 2014, 12:21:01 am »
FFFFUUUU I quoted instead of editing, fail.

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2176 on: November 28, 2014, 12:43:48 am »
Happy thanksgiving my Ameritarded'ed friends!
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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2177 on: November 28, 2014, 03:57:20 am »
I hear turkeys give good head

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2178 on: November 28, 2014, 04:50:37 am »
Happy Boxing Day you stupid fuxk with a pathetic excuse for a country.

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2179 on: November 28, 2014, 04:51:45 am »
I hear turkeys give good head

I heard you were going to kill yourself.

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2181 on: November 28, 2014, 05:46:01 am »
I hear turkeys give good head

I heard you were going to kill yourself.
Tattered & Torn assured me he wouldn't do it.

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2182 on: November 28, 2014, 05:51:18 am »
I'm imagining the last few pages as everyone sitting around for thanksgiving and it paints a hilarious picture.
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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2183 on: November 28, 2014, 06:15:32 am »
Did anyone read this? http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-rise-and-fall-of-zoklet-the-forum-of-bad-ideas

1. lol @ vice for thinking Dfg is some voice of zoklet.
2. Who the fuck is Roisin Kiberd? She's from the UK apparently. Surely some random slut didn't just happen upon Zoklet as it closed, she had to post there, don't you think?

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2184 on: November 28, 2014, 08:20:40 am »
I found my left over tianeptine capsules and slammed 50mg. Holy shit, I can't believe how good it is. I an nodding my balls off and no worries about drug tests.
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1. First of all, the mixture with water being described as syrupy is an understatement. I used a whole mL of water, and cooked the shit out of it to get it to dissolve. I had to add even more water after cooking it to get it though a cotton. It should be slightly easier to filter if it was dry, pure powder but mine hot wet from humidity and gelled up to the consistency of a starburst candy, it reminded me of trying to shoot 30mg anti-abuse morphine tablets. They will dissolve and go through a cotton, but they will fight you every step. I read that people have to store their tianeptine with a silica gel packet tightly sealed because it is so hygroscopic, and I definitely agree.

2. There is a rush, but it's not particularly opoid-like. First I felt it in my wrist, distal from the injection site, then I felt it all the way up to my lungs. I was afraid I was going to collapse them because I had never felt something reacting so strongly (I have had a collapsed long a long time ago). I cough a few times when I IV fat opiate shots, and this made me cough a few times, too. I read online that tianeptine is hard on your veins, and it certainly felt like it was. I would advise against shooting it often, but I'm a junkie fuck, so my veins are fucked. Rotate, rotate rotate and hope you don't miss.

3. After the odd rush, there was a wave of opiod-like euphoria. I am nodding right now, no joke (t+45 minutes and it hasn't shown signs of wearing off). I haven't done any opiates for about two months, though, so YMMV. In one link I read about recreational tianeptine, a heroin addict said as long as he can get tianeptine powder legally online, he will stop using dope, and I can totally feel where he's coming from. I would say that the high is very similar to IV oxycodone, but it's itchy like morphine. It's certainly a good high. Now I'm gonna buy about 5 grams of powder, I'm glad I was lucky enough to find the capsules and try it.

Edit: Forgot to add, the nausea is pretty bad. I'm certain that 100mg would have made me throw up. I also had a big thanksgiving dinner and I was stuffed, so that probably contributes to it.

Ho ho, good man. Mine is also gelled, which isn't that hard to work with, sometimes even preferable. Just scrape a bit with a fingernail or tweezers. I've wondered what would happen if I ran some though a dehydrator. I also want me, or someone with a fresh batch, to place something on the tray of their milligram scale, like foil, then add 20mg of tianeptine powder and note the total weight, leave it out a few days in a place with normal humidity until it seems to have absorbed as much moisture as it's going to, then weigh it again to see how much moisture it absorbs, what the ratio between dry and gelled is.

This is relevant: PSA: seems tianeptine doesn't just clump with moisture, it degrades
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/2kqt6d/psa_seems_tianeptine_doesnt_just_clump_with/

I love the containers that my NSI-189 came in. Already using the empty ones for my parnate and DMT. I could scoop a bit of tianeptine into it and reseal it. Will look or ask if there are even better ones, reusable and durable, capacity I want, and a very good, preferably genuinely (near) air-tight, while still even easy to manipulate, open.

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2185 on: November 28, 2014, 09:19:04 am »
All of their tianeptine is backordered, thanks though. I'm just going to use an ebay vendor that includes a GCMS.

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« Reply #2186 on: November 28, 2014, 10:19:51 am »
I think DMT might effect me very differently than normal people. Probably a very bad sign, unless I haven't broken through. I've said before that it wouldn't surprise me if it turned out I had a brain tumor, neurodegenerative disease, my brain was riddled with cancer, or various other disorders and deformities.

(Yesterday) Had mild mini-ayuahuasca like trip first, which left me feeling positive and warm, and helped identify and answer some problems. Maybe an hour later I loaded 40mg and swapped in a big turkey sized bag for my vape, finished it all with no problem. DMT (extract) has such a unique smell, flower like, but there's also something cold and alien about it, inorganic.

I remember having set a sequence I would follow, to make it easier under an impaired state, although it seems self-discipline, control, can have a large impact on how well I function. Have trip spot in place (seat cushions in front of a large rice bag, one behind head), eye shades on head, blanket draped over. Then inhale from bag, hold it, and press k to begin song at low volume, go sit down. After starting the song, there was the feeling of "something big is about to happen", and I rushed to sit down and take another hit. Then I noticed the volume seemed to low to hear, and I scrambled to sloppily raise it. Then the hot plate turned on, which wouldn't have really been a problem, but I scrambled again to turn it off, and also had the thought that the speakers, not headphones were on, and I may have turned the volume up enough to potentially disturb the upstairs, so I scrambled to turn it down/off.

I remember as it was coming on and time seemed dilated, the tiles began to look very interesting in a way, and thought what a terrible way to start this was, rushed, potentially anxiety producing, although I didn't feel that way. Then I thought how laughable it was that I thought I could influence this.

"I've been here before". I'm not sure if I can bring the image to mind, but I remember thinking how ordered the visualization, then area in my mind's eye, looked. It reminded me of something that might be from a bizarre 90's CGI cartoon or computer game. Just empty, yet perfectly ordered, and robotic in way. Like something a computer program would produce to live in. Cold, alien, unemotional. The feelings that come on during a moderate trip. "If this is DMT, I don't like it." Then thinking about how simple that really was, and there was no need for it to seem particularly negative. That even if this is what it was like in my current state, there was the possibility of change.

Then I thought whether it was a reflection of my mind, of myself and inability to let go, the need to have everything structured, how dead my imagination was. Sometime later I shifted my awareness to my body and noted that my shoulders were hunched upward, a posture I regularly catch myself in, likely a symptom of anxiety and insecurity, almost like that of a child before a beating.
I had thought before or after this about how many aspects of my life may be strongly influenced by the desire to feel in control. I remember reading a report where the author noted that xanax didn't seem to negatively influence his trip and helped him to "let go". "Just let go" is a phrase that ran through my mind during my last attempt, and this one. I don't think I've ever, or at least in a very long time, felt fully relaxed. I don't even feel comfortable making facial expressions in public, let alone "letting go" and having the experience others do. How there are no people in my inner world, no thoughts of them with any feeling of empathy, they may as well be robots, largely just things to be analyzed and receive information from. How the strongest emotions are generally caused by others, the impact of engaging in conversation, of listening, noting tone and body language, facial expressions, forming a response and continuing to do so as you speak; the negative effects avoiding this for so long could have. How the strongest, best, memories people have are usually of situations involving other people, and I completely lacked that, with my past a black hole, an empty life. How many problems my lifestyle could have caused, how it could have impacted my development, along with being abnormal to begin with.

Trying to avoid going into a thought loop. Noting that the natural reaction of a higher dose seemed to be for my mouth to hang open, not in the manner that's caused from shock/surprise or awe, which may be associated with schizophrenia. Whether my defense mechanisms, the order, was preventing a chaotic stream from emerging, which wouldn't be bad as long as it wasn't psychotic. I had a very nice shroom session that started in the shower, and then I just sat on the floor with a light stream of water running and going through various visualizations and learning how to function in that state. I remembered the hypothesis in "The Spirit Molecule" that endogenous DMT could be a part of schizophrenia, a potential "schizo-toxin". If the pineal gland produces DMT then just due to genetic variation, mutations, I could see some people having having a defect in the system, just like ADD and differences in the dopaminergic system, anxiety and GABA, and many other examples.

Whereas a low dose has a nice anti-depressant effect afterward, which I'm not sure how long it lasts, a larger one which sends me to that strange space seems to worsen my mood afterward and lead to dysfunctional behavior, possibly feeling somewhat "schizophrenic". I worry at times during the trip that, feel as if, it could devolve into an actual (quasi-)schizophrenic episode.

Fuck it, I'm just going to IV .5mg/kg about 30 minutes after having plugged parnate (MAOI) and see what happens.
While I noted that if that's what DMT is like for me, I don't like it, I also don't find it frightening, particularly after a low dose experience. This way I'll know for sure whether I'm experiencing "breaking through", which I doubt, or whether it effects me differently, or there's something interfering.

I may have mentioned before that  in "LSD: Doorway to the Numinous" and in "LSD Psychotherapy" they discussed which patients, which pathologies and traits, seem to have and cause the most resistance to it, and how not one symptom, even pupil dilation and visual distortions, where present in all sessions, and he conducted and observed thousands. There was one remarkable story of a patient where they eventually worked up to a 1500 mic IM of LSD and when the peak would normally be nothing, he was bored, felt nothing, and even asked and was allowed to get a snack and play chess in the social room. It took 38 high dose sessions before his defenses were lowered enough to the point where he began regressing into childhood and reliving traumatic experiences.

I wonder if it's possible for some rare people to actually resist DMT. My above plan should settle that. I'll also need to read about potential augmenters, combinations, tips and tricks while in the trip. So much to read and try, but this seems worth experimenting with. It hasn't been that long since I felt euphoric on a shroom combo, I shouldn't have degraded that much in the time being, things may only be dormant, not dead or strongly diminished for the time. I'm excited about trying rectal mescaline salt. If it has a positive effect on me, my mood and imagination, then I'll try DMT again during the trip and see how it effects it.

Then there's transcranial stimulation, which has enormous potential for being combined with psychedelics. It has the potential for anxiety elimination without interfering with the trip, and possibly augmentation like no other. This, the effects, could be like nothing anyone has ever tried before, far beyond them.

Idea: Rizzo mentioned before that he may be moving to the bay area. Since I am not a good subject, I could use him as a guinea pig for safe transcranial experiments with a few key psychedelics (LSD, DMT, "ayahuasca" (longer and milder DMT experience), and mescaline) along with various combinations with other drugs. With his experience and writing ability, capability for profound experiences, he could be a very good match for this. Along with (often) being poor, homeless, and addicted, it would lower "costs" considerably, raise the marginal utility of what I'm offering and make him more likely to accept. Free drugs, the potential for experiences like no other, participating in what could be the first major furthering of the psychedelic frontier, the field of study, in a very long time, food, comforts/a nice preparation for the trip, a well prepared setting, a trip sitter with a variety of pharmaceuticals and medical kit to handle any situation who can stay composed due to being a strong rationalist and unemotional and has a large knowledge base.

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2187 on: November 28, 2014, 11:30:46 am »
I hear turkeys give good head

I heard you were going to kill yourself.

I heard you still can't get off dope after "getting clean" for the billionth time

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2188 on: November 28, 2014, 11:45:47 am »
I got suspended from my one job because I left at my scheduled off time on Thanksgiving Day rather than hang out and help them for longer, even though no one bothered to ask me if I could/would stay and I told them when I walked in at 8 AM that I had to leave at 3 PM on the dot to have dinner with my family. I've wanted to quit this job anyways and I've been very vocal about it and try to tell my manager at least once a day how incompetent he is at his job and how much of a clusterfuck his restaurant is so maybe it's for the best, I didn't want to work all goddamn day on Black Friday anyways so I consider it a favor.

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2189 on: November 28, 2014, 12:00:03 pm »
I hear turkeys give good head

I heard you were going to kill yourself.

I heard you still can't get off dope after "getting clean" for the billionth time

C'mon bro, this is TRT. You can cut deeper than that.