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2 Admins a healthy sanctuary choice?

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Offline Slave of the Beast

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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2014, 08:28:38 am »
Arnox is the site owner; another admin' will not change the fact that he ultimately has absolute authority.

And if he truly does abide by this "council" system, and the OP wants to achieve some kind of balance via a wider distribution of personality types on the staff, then I think you'd have more chance of succeeding by getting a couple of users on the staff whose personalities don't cluster around Arnox's mindset. That might be slightly more palatable to Arnox than creating a co-Admin, but the chances of Arnox selecting someone whose personality is outside his comfort zone still appears to be near zero.

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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2014, 08:31:36 am »
If totse did not have multiple admins, it would not have survived (as long as it did). Jeff fucked off for months, almost years, at a time.

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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2014, 08:40:55 am »
If totse did not have multiple admins, it would not have survived (as long as it did). Jeff fucked off for months, almost years, at a time.

Very true, but I don't think Arnox is reaching the point of nervous breakdown just yet.

And if he does take a sabbatical he can always but Equanimity in charge.

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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2014, 08:43:12 am »
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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2014, 06:13:18 pm »
If totse did not have multiple admins, it would not have survived (as long as it did). Jeff fucked off for months, almost years, at a time.

The difference here though is that I don't take any sort of massive breaks like that. I can't afford to.


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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2014, 06:18:49 pm »
The difference here though is that I don't take any sort of massive breaks like that. I can't afford to.

If you need a break, throw me in the ring.  We'll get things where they need to be.

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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2014, 06:20:03 pm »
Equmin 2014!
who's the judge of if its funny and or clever? the mods. period.

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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2014, 06:30:05 pm »
The difference here though is that I don't take any sort of massive breaks like that. I can't afford to.

If you need a break, throw me in the ring.  We'll get things where they need to be.


Idio, you have a life. And this forum needs constant watching. I don't mind giving you admin at all but last time you said it just wasn't for you.


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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2014, 06:35:22 pm »
Idio, you have a life. And this forum needs constant watching. I don't mind giving you admin at all but last time you said it just wasn't for you.

I'm sure you would like one too.  That's why you have a staff too, for keeping tabs on the forum.  It might do a little good for us to relax the grip slightly as well.

I'm not sure it would be for me for the long-term, but I think you could use a breather.  I wouldn't offer if I wasn't sincere.

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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2014, 06:45:31 pm »
It might do a little good for us to relax the grip slightly as well.

This ^^^^

my main complaint was that the rules 'as written' were sort of vague, yet arnox tried a 'heavy hand' approach in some cases, and completely let other cases slide. 

we need less micromanaging and more benign neglect

remember the cp thing?  if you want to be a hardass, go hard on that sort of thing, and lay off some of the bannings for 'spam' and stupid shit.

I never thought arnox was unlikeable per se, matter of fact I used to play AD&D and I suspect arnox did too, and when I joined I was looking forward to maybe discussing it with him

but then mormonism reared its ugly, dragon-dildo shaped head, and now here we are......
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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2014, 06:57:16 pm »
matter of fact I used to play AD&D
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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2014, 06:57:30 pm »
It might do a little good for us to relax the grip slightly as well.

This ^^^^

my main complaint was that the rules 'as written' were sort of vague, yet arnox tried a 'heavy hand' approach in some cases, and completely let other cases slide.

1. We're not omniscient.

2. Things are decided on a case-by-case basis.

3. CP has already been cracked down on.



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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2014, 07:00:57 pm »
1. We're not omniscient.

2. Things are decided on a case-by-case basis.

3. CP has already been cracked down on.

We're not, but that's where the report button really helps.  One us usually responds pretty quickly when we see CP in the report subject.

As for using the report button because someone thinks somebody else is a "kidiot," well, I don't respond as quickly to that.

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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2014, 07:06:58 pm »
Things are decided on a case-by-case basis

Yes, this is why I was bitching, you make these decisions on the fly and they are just not good decisions sometimes



CP has already been cracked down on.

You literally told me 'let it be' when I bitched about the daily cp spam and how I had to make sure I was alone in my house before even opening a thread so that my family would not think I was some sort of sicko; and it took like a week longer until you 'cracked down on it' by instituting the 20 posts rule.

I somehow have a feeling that if the cp spammer was a bit more determined and less lazy, you wouldn't be able to claim that you 'cracked down' on shit because it could have been 10 times worse than it was.
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Re: WHO THINKS 2 ADMINS IS A POSSIBLE GOOD IDEA
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2014, 07:07:10 pm »

As for using the report button because someone thinks somebody else is a "kidiot," well, I don't respond as quickly to that.

Thanks for the info. We'll make sure and take note that you've admitted you don't take defacement of the BBS seriously.