I am so fucking tired of you faggots constantly complaining about the site

[Prometheus]

Just throwing this out there to all involved, your complaints about Arnox's site administration, and Equanimity's modding might carry more weight if it wasn't all mixed in with accusations of trannyisim, faggotry, and pussieness. Frankly, it makes you look like a bunch of whiny children. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not inclined to take seriously anyone who seems to be raging for the sake of raging.

Personally, I'm somewhat indifferent to Arnox, though he has my appreciation for creating this site. And I generally like what Equanimity has to say. That said, I did not see the alleged moderation failures that are being discussed, and am not weighing in those except in a meta way.

I swear, I'd ignore site politics entirely if not for my desire to help beat this into a functioning community.

[Vulture]

I swear, I'd ignore site politics entirely if not for my desire to help beat this into a functioning community.

This sentence actually just stopped me from leaving. I think either outcome is kinda sad at this point though.

[joe camel]

Just throwing this out there to all involved, your complaints about Arnox's site administration, and Equanimity's modding might carry more weight if it wasn't all mixed in with accusations of trannyisim, faggotry, and pussieness. Frankly, it makes you look like a bunch of whiny children. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not inclined to take seriously anyone who seems to be raging for the sake of raging.

Personally, I'm somewhat indifferent to Arnox, though he has my appreciation for creating this site. And I generally like what Equanimity has to say. That said, I did not see the alleged moderation failures that are being discussed, and am not weighing in those except in a meta way.

I swear, I'd ignore site politics entirely if not for my desire to help beat this into a functioning community.

Fucking thank you.

Why do people get so wrapped up in site politics? Its stupid. I think equaminity is a good poster as well. You people are just bitching and moaning over nothing. We could turn this place around if it wasn't for threads like these.

Everyone should make an effort to contribute content to the site.

[-SpectraL]

Many times, site politics and drama and open/relentless criticism are exactly what is required to save a community from sinking at the hands of known retards who couldn't tell their ass from a hole in the ground and couldn't tie their own shoelaces correctly given 20 consecutive tries at it. Once all other avenues have been explored and been senselessly rejected by the retarded powers that be, there's really only bitching and revenge left. Case in point: Zoklet.

[Vulture]

Drama and criticism are fine. It does make and save communities. The same tired drama and criticism ad nauseum nonstop for fucking weeks isn't. It kills them.

No fucking tact.

[Infinityshock]

Just throwing this out there to all involved, your complaints about Arnox's site administration, and Equanimity's modding might carry more weight if it wasn't all mixed in with accusations of trannyisim, faggotry, and pussieness. Frankly, it makes you look like a bunch of whiny children. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not inclined to take seriously anyone who seems to be raging for the sake of raging.

Personally, I'm somewhat indifferent to Arnox, though he has my appreciation for creating this site. And I generally like what Equanimity has to say. That said, I did not see the alleged moderation failures that are being discussed, and am not weighing in those except in a meta way.

I swear, I'd ignore site politics entirely if not for my desire to help beat this into a functioning community.

Fucking thank you.

Why do people get so wrapped up in site politics? Its stupid. I think equaminity is a good poster as well. You people are just bitching and moaning over nothing. We could turn this place around if it wasn't for threads like these.

Everyone should make an effort to contribute content to the site.

Dont give a sophisticated name to what is essentially someone saying one thing and doing something completely different. Another word for it is hypocrisy

There is no point in contributing.   There is no benefit or reward in doing so. Anyone with any potential to make useful,  viable content has been driven away by idiotic policies and behavior.

[starvingniglet]

Drama and criticism are fine. It does make and save communities. The same tired drama and criticism ad nauseum nonstop for fucking weeks isn't. It kills them.

No fucking tact.

How does it 'kill them'?  Maybe it doesn't kill them.  Maybe it just burns admins out and spawns corrupt moderators. 

If this place was truly 'dying' it would be like, dead....seems sort of lively enough to me, right now....

[-SpectraL]

Drama and criticism are fine. It does make and save communities. The same tired drama and criticism ad nauseum nonstop for fucking weeks isn't. It kills them.

No fucking tact.

Not at all. If you just make a half-assed approach to it, the retards simply wave it off as a minor annoyance. Once you start bitching them out, you have to keep it up relentlessly and brutally until either they pull their heads out of their dumb asses or everyone gets banned and they end up with nothing but a TTFN. Case in point: Zoklet.

[Vulture]

There is no incentive to contribute quality content when every thread devolves into a bitchfest. Period.

[-SpectraL]

There is no incentive to contribute quality content when every thread devolves into a bitchfest. Period.

And if the staff all have their heads stuck up their asses and refuse to listen to common sense and reason year after year, nobody should contribute anything anyways. Period.

[DaGuru]

There is no incentive to contribute quality content when every thread devolves into a bitchfest. Period.

If you think EVERY thread is turning into a bitchfest, either you are as blind as a bat, have a very demented agenda purposely misrepresenting things, or just a blithering nincompoop. You keep saying this time and time again...so which description fits?

D) All of the above?

[Vulture]

And they pull this incentive out of their asses amidst a constant bitchfest because...?

Do you know what a feedback loop is? What influences people's decisions? A multifactor iterated prisoner's dilemma with you would be a fucking nightmare.

[Vulture]

There is no incentive to contribute quality content when every thread devolves into a bitchfest. Period.

If you think EVERY thread is turning into a bitchfest, either you are as blind as a bat, have a very demented agenda purposely misrepresenting things, or just a blithering nincompoop. You keep saying this time and time again...so which description fits?

D) All of the above?

It should be noteworthy that I don't count shit threads as legitimate threads.

[joe camel]

There is no point in contributing.   There is no benefit or reward in doing so. Anyone with any potential to make useful,  viable content has been driven away by idiotic policies and behavior.

I disagree. Everyone can contribute quality information to the site. Just yesterday i posted a lot of information on how to beat the time release on the crush proof dilaudid, and other members helped me figure it out.

[Infinityshock]

There is no incentive to contribute quality content when every thread devolves into a bitchfest. Period.

Thats what mods are supposed to be for. They infract the stupidest shit but when there are posts made in serious threads that are fully off topic...nada. they dont even have the courtesy to delete the flagrant shit posts.