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Offline Idiosyncrasy

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Re: How to survive without getting a real job.
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2014, 10:24:31 pm »
Buy and sell......its so simple. I'm not talking drugs!! Decide on a product, find good suppliers, buy and resell in smaller amounts else where.

This style of trading has kept me from having a real job for some time now.

There is always something that can be bought cheap of Alibaba and sold elsewhere.

Picking up change......are you having a laugh? A grown man waliking round looking for change, what kind of life is that for yourself?

Very good, you just described retail.

From a more existential perspective, how does one define a "real" job? What is a job? Are we fooling others, or are we fooling ourselves?

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Re: How to survive without getting a real job.
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2014, 05:41:52 am »
I'm confused.  This whole guide was designed to get me beer money, but then you tell me to save money by not buying beer?  WTF!
Smoke some weed and get laid!  Doctor's orders!

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Re: How to survive without getting a real job.
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2014, 05:44:04 am »
Well I'm the dopeman, yeah boy, wear a courderoy
Money up to here but unemployed
You keep smokin that rock and my pockets gettin bigger

This is how you make da money, stupid ass niggaa
You are now about witness the strength of street knowledge.

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Re: How to survive without getting a real job.
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2014, 06:01:52 am »
Very good, you just described retail.

From a more existential perspective, how does one define a "real" job? What is a job? Are we fooling others, or are we fooling ourselves?

I described a basic form of retail that can be implemented from home very easily giving huge amounts of spare time. It totally negates the need to seek employment from someone else. It can be as big or small as OP requires.

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Re: How to survive without getting a real job.
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2014, 01:54:04 pm »
Very good, you just described retail.

From a more existential perspective, how does one define a "real" job? What is a job? Are we fooling others, or are we fooling ourselves?

I described a basic form of retail that can be implemented from home very easily giving huge amounts of spare time. It totally negates the need to seek employment from someone else. It can be as big or small as OP requires.

Indeed. I meant you described the racket of retail. Like you said, instead of being the lowly cashier, you can be Sam Walton himself. There are a few factors to consider, but just pick your items, set your margins, and keep all the profits instead of sending them back to corporate.

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Re: How to survive without getting a real job.
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2014, 05:19:41 pm »
Indeed. I meant you described the racket of retail. Like you said, instead of being the lowly cashier, you can be Sam Walton himself. There are a few factors to consider, but just pick your items, set your margins, and keep all the profits instead of sending them back to corporate.

The key is being clever when picking your product. Do not choose something that thousands of other people are selling. I was lucky enough to discover a small range of products on eBay of which there was only 1 UK seller, his prices are extortionately high. I established sellers on Ali baba with great success and marketed my product in a way that looked more professional, was cheaper and of good quality.

I have been successful on 2 occasions now where I have taken the place of the single seller.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2014, 05:23:45 pm by silentchemist »

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Re: How to survive without getting a real job.
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2014, 05:53:51 pm »
Buy and sell......its so simple. I'm not talking drugs!! Decide on a product, find good suppliers, buy and resell in smaller amounts else where.

This style of trading has kept me from having a real job for some time now.

There is always something that can be bought cheap of Alibaba and sold elsewhere.

Picking up change......are you having a laugh? A grown man waliking round looking for change, what kind of life is that for yourself?

Very good, you just described retail.

From a more existential perspective, how does one define a "real" job? What is a job? Are we fooling others, or are we fooling ourselves?

a "real" job is one that provides steady income regardless of.. the winds. no need to overcomplicate it

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Re: How to survive without getting a real job.
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2014, 06:16:58 am »
-Apply for College
-Get Student Loans
-Purchase cheap but reliable vehicle (find a good bargain at an auto auction)
-Call/Research when your county holds either tax lien auctions, or houses being forclosed and auctioned due to failure to pay tax lein holders
or - Check Zillow for cheap properties new you under $10k. (You can find houses doing either for under $10k, but if you find a nice lot, thats something to work with)
-Try to do well in school, or atleast pass your classes.. A's arent neccesary
- Take CLEP Tests for $80 a piece, each one account for 3-12 accredited College credit hours.. Figure out which ones you want to do to get your associates..
-Save as much money as you can, but you may end up spending it all depending if the house/property needs work.
-Take out more loans the next semester
- Repeat steps till you own at least 2 properties, 2 vehicles, and have an associates degree. Expected completion time is around 1.5-2 years, but you'll have a degree, a home, transportation + back-up transportation, and a rental property all while other people are graduating and have nothing short of debt. Use the rental property to pay of your student loans.. you might even be able to score or work things out in such a way that you may have more than one.. depending the area, market values, and demand for rentals.

I can verify that this plan, although not incredibly precise, is solid and proven. Sure, you can tinker with it a bit, and I implore you to do so. Make your own path.. but if your looking for a nice template that doesn't require you to do what 80% of other people doing, this may just be for you.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, and miles to go before I sleep.
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Re: How to survive without getting a real job.
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2014, 05:09:35 pm »
-Apply for College
-Get Student Loans
-Purchase cheap but reliable vehicle (find a good bargain at an auto auction)
-Call/Research when your county holds either tax lien auctions, or houses being forclosed and auctioned due to failure to pay tax lein holders
or - Check Zillow for cheap properties new you under $10k. (You can find houses doing either for under $10k, but if you find a nice lot, thats something to work with)
-Try to do well in school, or atleast pass your classes.. A's arent neccesary
- Take CLEP Tests for $80 a piece, each one account for 3-12 accredited College credit hours.. Figure out which ones you want to do to get your associates..
-Save as much money as you can, but you may end up spending it all depending if the house/property needs work.
-Take out more loans the next semester
- Repeat steps till you own at least 2 properties, 2 vehicles, and have an associates degree. Expected completion time is around 1.5-2 years, but you'll have a degree, a home, transportation + back-up transportation, and a rental property all while other people are graduating and have nothing short of debt. Use the rental property to pay of your student loans.. you might even be able to score or work things out in such a way that you may have more than one.. depending the area, market values, and demand for rentals.

I can verify that this plan, although not incredibly precise, is solid and proven. Sure, you can tinker with it a bit, and I implore you to do so. Make your own path.. but if your looking for a nice template that doesn't require you to do what 80% of other people doing, this may just be for you.

This is almost exactly what I did, and I'm in a strong place these days because of it.

Though I should say that I used BI-money saved up from my high school years to cover most of the cost of college, so I didn't have the debt to worry about.

But using rental income from one property to pay off the mortgage on another is brilliant, and a great way to chart a path to becoming a slum lord/landlord with good passive income. Just don't forget that the more rental properties you own, the more the work you put into them rises.

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Re: How to survive without getting a real job.
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2014, 05:58:17 pm »
Part time minmum wage will litrally get u more money than thus and you get to meet new people and co-worker s and sometimes make friends with them its p cool to have job also to contribute to the country's wealth by paying income tax.

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Re: How to survive without getting a real job.
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2014, 09:22:28 am »
There is nothing wrong with finding a stable job that you enjoy.. if you can indeed find such a thing. It really depends on your location, what kind of competition you have in your area, your general skill set, and your ability to sell yourself. In most situations, its not so much your experience level or skill as it is your ability to market yourself. Physical presence, personality, portraying yourself as smart, humble, and generally likable are key in landing a decent job.

 There is nothing wrong with being an employee in the service industry.. our nation thrives and survives on such people, and those experiences instill a greater understanding on the value of ones work and presence in the work world. It more of less helps give you a sense of direction of what you want to do with your life.. I've had my fair share, and its inspired my current path.

 Then again, money is money. You can just as easily succeed racking up hours doing a part-time or minimum wage job, if you spend your money wisely and save.. That's just it though, most people cant.. whether for reasons they can control or other they cant.. fuel prices, insurance (medical and auto), lunch each day, tabacco products (if you partake), rent, bills, groceries, etc.. Its often hard to get ahead, let alone.. stay afloat. Its rough out there.. not for everyone, but especially people from small towns with little work to find.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, and miles to go before I sleep.
-Robert Frost