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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2220 on: November 30, 2014, 02:53:04 am »
Malice, sorry to tell you this, but what you described wasn't a breakthrough. You got close but the fact that you were still aware of your surroundings means you were jut tripping really hard. When you actually break through you will have 0 concept of reality. Try doubling your dose and hold the hit untill you fall off the face of the earth.

Also there are plenty of MAOI's in tobacco.

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« Reply #2221 on: November 30, 2014, 03:37:59 am »
Hehehe, you know, it felt fun in away to stir up trouble and quickly strategize and manipulate my way out of the situation. Interact with the world and others in my own evil ways once again.

Woke up feeling pretty chipper, feeling happier (not too happy, of course) and looking forward to doing things more than I had in a while. Just staying home, reading good books and other valuable information, playing games, and watching a film. I completely forgot it was Black Friday yesterday, but I wasn't even planning on buying anything. And now (left for a few hours) the good mood is gone.

I genuinely wanted to try again and almost felt like it was a challenge. Make a quick trip to home depot to buy the tubing, then use the silicone I already have as a sealant. Even if I were to yank on it and know the bottle over, nothing would happen. But then I realized that even if I didn't freak out due to thinking I had burned myself I could still freak out and scream from experiencing a breakthrough.

Before the trip I had actually thought about having a heat resistant open top box shaped item to put the hot plate in, short enough to still be able to reach the wine bottle top, so that if I fell onto it I wouldn't be hurt. Didn't have anything suitable, though.

Also inb4 Malice knocks over something explosive onto the hot plate during a drug frenzy and burns a whole Mexican family to death

I don't even have anything explosive, and I certainly wouldn't keep it where it could be knocked over onto it.

What if you didn't actually shout out and just tripped it, and thus the note is pretty insane explaining a situation which didn't occur.

Yeah, I thought of that, and hope it was the case. Didn't seem like it, though. I said that I couldn't remember everything that happened and thought I may have yelled. I wish had thought to record the audio. Video would have been even better.

Malice, sorry to tell you this, but what you described wasn't a breakthrough. You got close but the fact that you were still aware of your surroundings means you were jut tripping really hard. When you actually break through you will have 0 concept of reality. Try doubling your dose and hold the hit untill you fall off the face of the earth.

Also there are plenty of MAOI's in tobacco.

It's possible that beginning to lose my concept of reality is what made me possibly black out for a second and freak out. Double the dose? That would be 160mg! It may have been even more than 80 due to the leftover that I wasn't sure was DMT or impurities.

I remember thinking/feeling "This is different". I mean, goddamn, just from reading descriptions you know a breakthrough is far beyond what you experience during sub-breakthrough doses.

The nicotine was from an vaporizer.

I wan't to go far off trail in a regional park (easily accessible) and try this again, but I'm going to have to buy a meth pipe and lighter, or something else. I remember seeing some teks using glass bottles, like mini-alcohol bottles, on DMT-Nexus.

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2222 on: November 30, 2014, 04:06:48 am »
I once poured roughly a half gram of dmt into a pipe and me and a friend passed it back and forth untill I lost reality. My friend has only ever been able to trip on dmt roughly equivalent to 2-3 hits of acid. That's why we used so much and even with such a large amount he was unable to get beyond that point.

This all happened in a car at a music festival.

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« Reply #2223 on: November 30, 2014, 04:58:08 am »
Maybe it's inhalation technique? Ihad a friend who couldn't break through either but he hit it like a pussy and held it like weed.
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« Reply #2224 on: November 30, 2014, 06:07:54 am »
Maybe it's inhalation technique? Ihad a friend who couldn't break through either but he hit it like a pussy and held it like weed.

Dude has dreds past his waist and eats ten strips to have fun at concerts. Trust me when I say he knows what he's doing.

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« Reply #2225 on: November 30, 2014, 07:34:06 am »
Malice have you ever thought of suicide? This isn't a troll post it maybe what you need, to just let go. One more huge drug binge then realease your soul. All your pain, misery and depression will vanish, and you will feel the happiest you have ever felt.

It could be cathartic somewhat.
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« Reply #2226 on: November 30, 2014, 07:35:57 am »
What if...I taped my mouth closed really well, but left a small hole for the tube to go in, which I would suck DMT vapor through? You could even inhale it through your nose, having it go through the mucous membrane of your sinus cavity may change bioavailability and onset, and then you wouldn't need a hole.

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« Reply #2227 on: November 30, 2014, 07:36:48 am »
Malice have you ever thought of suicide? This isn't a troll post it maybe what you need, to just let go. One more huge drug binge then realease your soul. All your pain, misery and depression will vanish, and you will feel the happiest you have ever felt.

It could be cathartic somewhat.

Terrible effort. Be more creative.

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« Reply #2228 on: November 30, 2014, 08:34:39 am »
Vaped some pot and I think I may be remembering some of what had happened. I have a faint feeling of a possible memory of seeing/experiencing something mind shattering, blowing, or terrifying, possibly alien, or maybe something that made me think I had lost my sanity, then coming to or opening my eyes and yelling in a terrified voice "Oh fuck. OH FUCK! IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED!", possibly like knowing there was the possibility of something going wrong before doing them DMT, an enormous consequence, not thinking it was likely, and it actually happens like a cannot shot in your mind, like realizing an IED had gone off and your leg's been blown off, maybe milder. This is very speculative/uncertain, though. Not sure if anything ever happened, and I do have the memory of panicking because I thought I had fallen onto the hot plate, which I had also considered and thought unlikely. and would account for the yelling. Or maybe I did glimpse something/had an incredible trip, forgot it almost immediately after it was over or due to the panic of thinking I had fallen onto the hot plate, and it had nothing to do with the panic. Information could be highly confused due to still being effected by DMT.

Oh, and, damn, if I was yelling like that this adds another level to what most would feel as embarrassment. It contributes to the effect on memory and possible changes in perception of you and the effects they may have, making you sound insane.

Although I do feel fine, not like anything traumatic has happened. Although tianeptine attenuates the neurological changes caused by stress, and I also take etizolam, and there's also the severe blunted affect and various other personality variables. Too many potential confounders. But, if it was the DMT experience and I immediately forgot it and latched onto the idea that I had fallen onto the hot plate, then that memory may not be strong enough to cause trauma.

_____ level theory: I remember the hot plate and vape taking on this really bizarre, possibly alien and malevolent, appearance. I can't remember what it looked like now. What if a being from the DMT realm, malevolent, trickster, sadist, or teacher of lesson's learned the hard way (don't take DMT lightly (I may have, since I may not have really been prepared to break through, in part due to being focused on other preparations, even gathering things that may be interesting to look at, so I may have been expecting a visual trip.) which then caused the false image/belief that I had fallen onto the hot plate? Or maybe I did it, subconsciously, or a part of my subconscious, out of self hatred or some other reason (teach a lesson). It's also possible that my mind created the idea of danger to stop the trip, because it was terrified of something, maybe ego death.

If it turns out that what I experienced during the DMT turned out to have caused this, I'm really interested in going back there and hopefully being able to withstand it this time, experience what it is but be able to sustain it, maybe even remember. I've always been very good at adapting quickly, as quickly as the next day at times to significant events.

Well, with the tape, even if it did go wrong, I wouldn't be able to scream.
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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2229 on: November 30, 2014, 11:45:56 am »
Yeah man I always tape my mouth shut while tripping

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« Reply #2230 on: November 30, 2014, 03:57:56 pm »
I don't blame those kids for peeking in on you malice, you're entertaining as fuck
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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2231 on: November 30, 2014, 06:19:09 pm »
lol
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« Reply #2232 on: December 01, 2014, 01:57:35 am »
I'm serious too. I was looking through this to see if there was a particular type of gag that would suit my needs: www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gag_(BDSM)

Unfortunately it doesn't seem like it. I don't want anything stuffed in my mouth, and others seem ineffective. There might be something they use in psych wards/mental hospitals to stop patients from screaming their heads off, or for autistic children/retards.

Don't know if I could feasibly paralyze the vocal cords. Making a mistake and having my throat close off would be a disaster, although I do have a nasopharyngeal  airway tube w/ a lubricant pack and a bag mask resuscitator to force air into my lungs.

I remember a story from Hyperbole and a Half  where her parents ended up making her a cheap and effective sound proof fort around her bed out of sound board. I don't have a problem with claustrophobia and could add a light source, and would be able to leave quickly if I needed to.

I've also thought of new excuses if I have a screaming fit or the police/paramedics show up at my door. I've just started taking a new (sleep) medication and it causes me to have horrible nigh terrors and scream in my sleep. Option 2: War vet and I have PTSD and sometimes scream in my sleep, which would fit my demeanor very well, I've had comments about the military multiple times in my life.

Oh, cool, it's reversible: http://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/opinion-surgery-stop-autistic-boys-screams-was-right-decision-f8C11296293

I bet I could get it for free on Medicaid due to being (officially) autistic and disabled as hell. No, I may need to yell loudly one day and this could endanger me.

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2233 on: December 01, 2014, 02:19:53 am »
you can gag on my ball sack right after a breakthrough dmt trip that you can't quite understand.
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« Reply #2234 on: December 01, 2014, 03:01:07 am »
I pull my nutsack up over my dick so it looks like a bullfrog