MRE's. your friend in a survival situation?

[LOVE]

Pemmican is an ideal choice, ahead of biltong and other dried goods.

[1983]

m-80s in a lake with fish in it. You'll thank me.

Not really, The reason why they don't let you dynamite fish anymore is only about 1/4 will float, the other 3/4 will sink and rot.

You'd be better off setting up trot lines, Noodles, off shore snares, or nets / cages.

General tip: learn to process acorns for consumption. Those things are incredibly nutritious and plentiful during autumn.

You basically take out the flesh and leech out the tannins in water. Easiest way to do it is putting them in a cloth bag and hanging them in a stream. If you take them out and there's milky stuff coming from it, it isn't done yet. A stream isn't necessary, of course. Just regularly changing the water you leech them in, until you can put them in water and the water stays clear.

You can also boil the tannins out. You dump them and boiling water. When the water turns milky, you dump the acorns in another pot of boiling water. It has to already boil when you throw the acorns in. If it isn't boiling, the tannins will be locked in and you'll never get them out. You need to do that until the water no longer turns milky during boiling. Usually takes around 5 changes of water.

Processed acorns can be used for a lot of things. The taste is like chestnut. Cold processed acorns are a little more starchy and can be ground into a meal for bread or even pasta. You can grind them up and grill them until the meal is darkbrown and use it as coffee. You can mash up some acorns with milk or water and eat them as a puree. You can eat them whole..

Don't eat them unprocessed though, they're disgusting. And if you manage to get past the disgusting taste, unprocessed acorns can actually be poisonous because of the tannins in it. However, don't process them too long before you need them. Unprocessed they keep good for near forever.

You can use the tannin water to process and cure hides, You get a better nutritional value out of them if you don't boil them though because the acorns keep their natural oils in em.

Al

[Montane]

 You get a better nutritional value out of them if you don't boil them though because the acorns keep their natural oils in em.

Al

Thanks, I was wondering about that.

If you're going for a long period of time, you need a little bit more than pemmican. That's like trying to live off Clif Bars. Which this guy did kinda do, but that's hiker trash lifestyle, baby

[BORSH]

As stated before the sodium content is intense.

If you eat nothing but MREs for a while you WILL become constipated. If you keep it up you just might burst your asshole when it all comes out.

Its a just in case, last resort type shit. Its what you eat when you need to merely survive, when you're out in the field and there is nothing more, and you cant afford to carry lots of weight in food.

Nobody eats that shit by choice.

[starvingniglet]

If you're going for a long period of time, you need a little bit more than pemmican. That's like trying to live off Clif Bars. Which this guy did kinda do, but that's hiker trash lifestyle, baby

pemmican is basically meat, fat and fruit, smashed together, my normal diet is pretty similar, I eat nothing but meat and fruits and vegetables.  Been fine so far....

[Montane]

If you're going for a long period of time, you need a little bit more than pemmican. That's like trying to live off Clif Bars. Which this guy did kinda do, but that's hiker trash lifestyle, baby

pemmican is basically meat, fat and fruit, smashed together, my normal diet is pretty similar, I eat nothing but meat and fruits and vegetables.  Been fine so far....

Did not think fruits would be in it, but even so, don't dried fruits lack nutritional value? When SHTF, fresh food will be either impossible or impractical, so better get down on that enriched shit.

[starvingniglet]

don't dried fruits lack nutritional value?

fuck, I don't know.  I do know that pemmican can last for a decade or more if stored properly.

[1983]

If you're going for a long period of time, you need a little bit more than pemmican. That's like trying to live off Clif Bars. Which this guy did kinda do, but that's hiker trash lifestyle, baby

pemmican is basically meat, fat and fruit, smashed together, my normal diet is pretty similar, I eat nothing but meat and fruits and vegetables.  Been fine so far....

Did not think fruits would be in it, but even so, don't dried fruits lack nutritional value? When SHTF, fresh food will be either impossible or impractical, so better get down on that enriched shit.

Learn to eat what's around you, You'd be surprised how many weeds and plants are edible as well as different ways to fish, trap, and hunt. Too many people have a one tracked mind on how things are supposed to work and never look past what they think they "already know all about".

Myself I forage for wild mushrooms, fiddle heads, thimble berries, plantains, clovers, goose berries, cat tails, day lilies, ect. There's allot of fresh food just outside your front door if you know where to look for it.

For everything else keep some fish oil pills and one a day vitamin tabs around to supplement your diet and possibly some whey powder if you need added protein unless you want to eat bugs, fish, or if you're lucky some bush beef.

Al

[LOVE]

If you're going for a long period of time, you need a little bit more than pemmican. That's like trying to live off Clif Bars. Which this guy did kinda do, but that's hiker trash lifestyle, baby

Your requirements of nutrition depend on what your efforts in survival consist of. Pemmican is all around pretty ideal, but of course variety of food as you come across it should be capitalised on, but stocks never depleted fully (for numerous reasons) in order to supplement your diet with fibre vitamins and minerals when possible. For most purposes the calorie rich pemmican is ideal - and you can survive quite healthily on it for several months at a time.

Also, it should be noted that if you're actively participating in hunting - or avoiding being hunted - constipation can be in your favour. You're compromised for the duration of your movement up until you can move well enough away from your scent marker. You may also lose too much fluid.

These are the reasons for which food poisoning and water cleanliness are very serious issues. One bought of diahorrea could end you.

[GothicSeraph]

What are the expiration on MRE's? I would be worried about that than just hunting for meat? Plus who knows what chemicals they put in it to infect all of the preppers to get them out of the way?

[Satyr]

If you're going for a long period of time, you need a little bit more than pemmican. That's like trying to live off Clif Bars. Which this guy did kinda do, but that's hiker trash lifestyle, baby

pemmican is basically meat, fat and fruit, smashed together, my normal diet is pretty similar, I eat nothing but meat and fruits and vegetables.  Been fine so far....

Did not think fruits would be in it, but even so, don't dried fruits lack nutritional value? When SHTF, fresh food will be either impossible or impractical, so better get down on that enriched shit.

Learn to eat what's around you, You'd be surprised how many weeds and plants are edible as well as different ways to fish, trap, and hunt. Too many people have a one tracked mind on how things are supposed to work and never look past what they think they "already know all about".

Myself I forage for wild mushrooms, fiddle heads, thimble berries, plantains, clovers, goose berries, cat tails, day lilies, ect. There's allot of fresh food just outside your front door if you know where to look for it.

For everything else keep some fish oil pills and one a day vitamin tabs around to supplement your diet and possibly some whey powder if you need added protein unless you want to eat bugs, fish, or if you're lucky some bush beef.

Al

If this was Zoklet, you would get a thanks.

Exactly. I don't have the balls to forage my own mushrooms, but there are so many edibles out there. And a lot of it tastes really good as well.

[Montane]

But in a SHTF scenario, is foraging still even possible? Will there be forests left to forage? Will you get shot going there?

[1983]

If this was Zoklet, you would get a thanks.

Exactly. I don't have the balls to forage my own mushrooms, but there are so many edibles out there. And a lot of it tastes really good as well.

There's one in my area called the pheasant's back mushroom or Dryad's Saddle and I'd fuck a hole in a sped for some of these. I usually find them in the summer living off decaying hardwood trees in my area and you can also seed them into new areas.

They're safe to eat and there's nothing else out there to mistake them with.



You eat the flat fleshy part and usually cut out the stem, You can eat the stem as well but it's woody in texture. You can also cut them into strips and dry them out to use them in fry pans with steak to soak up the juices to extend your meal or used in soups.

There is also the puffball.



There is some things to watch out for for these ones but on the most part they're good and grow friggin huge!

There is also the Shaggy mane.


You want to get them while they're young before they look like this.


They're too far gone at this point and not edible, If memory serves me you can't drink alcohol with this one for a day or so after as well.

Morels are good too.


A book I'd highly suggest if ever you really want to get into it is Mushrooms of Ontario and Eastern Canada.


This is one of a few that I own but there's lots of pictures and the likes and I find its a good general knowledge book.

Al

[Goats]

I ordered a bunch of them yoyo reels.

But I can't find them in non-shiny or in non-metal (plastic).

[1983]

I ordered a bunch of them yoyo reels.

But I can't find them in non-shiny or in non-metal (plastic).

See if you can find a trappers surplus store or look online for trap stain, I'm not sure how it will act on the line of the reel but I use it on my 110 and 220 conerbear traps as well and my # 1, 1 1/2, 2, 2 1/2, 3 leg traps.

It's kinda like bluing a gun but simpler... Just make sure to wear gloves or you'll be a different color for a while.

Another cheaper alternative is use patches of bark and make a kind of "slip cover" out of it. Nobody cares about old floating wet bark.

Al