Has anyone read the bible?

[Built To Last]

The Jewish people were originally not allowed to utter the name of God, only the priests, hence the term 'inutterable name' which was often used. The fact is, the name of God as translated from the tetragrammaton (which is YHVH or YHWH) has been lost. There are no vowels, the term Jehovah or Ye-ho-wah as it probably should be pronounced is one translation, as is Yahweh.

The only person allowed to utter the name of God was the high priest of the temple. He was only allowed to say the unutterable name once per year, on the day of atonement, Rosh Hashanah, when he would go behind the veil into the holy of holies to present the sacrificial blood. 

Actually, to pronounce YHWH as "yahweh" or "jehovah" is entirely inaccurate because, as we have already stated, that name wasn't allowed to be pronounced. The reason we think "yahweh" or "jehovah" is the name of God is because some ignorant person long ago tried to pronounce syllables that were never meant to be pronounced in the first place.
 

At the end of the day, Christ never referred to God as 'Jehovah' unless quoting from the ancient scrolls. As the model of the Christian walk, he referred to God as 'Father' which is how Christians should probably refer to God. Knowing his name is important yes, but in terms of the concept of a personal relationship with God the model of Father is far more logical (do you call your dad by his name?). I don't believe the bible translators were conspirators I just believe they were reflecting the traditions of the jewish people in their translations by using a supreme and all-encompassing title to reflect the name of God.

PS - the new world translation apparently had no qualified translators on board, and didn't use any of the ancient scrolls in translation. It's a contentious translation, but I guess so is the NIV for other reasons. There are biases.

PPS - the new world translation incorrently inserts the name of Jehovah into the new testament where titles such as Lord are used. There is also an interchangeable use of the term 'Lord' about Jesus and also God the Father, and they wanted to distinguish between those even though it didn't show that in the texts. they hate this obviously because they don't believe in the trinity.

yes, Bias all around.

Christianity turns the tables on the name of God. In Christianity the name of God is not "yahweh" or "jehovah" but Jesus. This is, Jesus is the name of God. Jesus is a name we can pronounce, call upon, and have a relationship with. Jesus is God incarnate in the flesh. This is why, when the Pharisees asks Jesus about his true identity, Jesus responds with, "I AM". Jesus is God, revealed.

"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" (John 8:58)

[Bad Company]

One thing that should be pointed out is that the catholic bible contains seven more books than the Protestant bible.

[Bad Company]

Actually, to pronounce YHWH as "yahweh" or "jehovah" is entirely inaccurate because, as we have already stated, that name wasn't allowed to be pronounced. The reason we think "yahweh" or "jehovah" is the name of God is because some ignorant person long ago tried to pronounce syllables that were never meant to be pronounced in the first place.

That ignorant person being the high priest correct?

[Prometheus]

One thing to keep in mind about the King James version is that one of the rules the translators were given was that nothing could challenge the fact that the royalty were superior to the commoners. And that is religion in a nutshell, as far as I'm concerned.

As far as accurate translations go, I've heard that NIV is the most accurate, and it's constantly being revised. Just don't forget that back in 375, the council of Nicea edited the shit out of everything, pretty much to make it say what they wanted it to say.

[ftlod]

Actually, to pronounce YHWH as "yahweh" or "jehovah" is entirely inaccurate because, as we have already stated, that name wasn't allowed to be pronounced. The reason we think "yahweh" or "jehovah" is the name of God is because some ignorant person long ago tried to pronounce syllables that were never meant to be pronounced in the first place.

Christianity turns the tables on the name of God. In Christianity the name of God is not "yahweh" or "jehovah" but Jesus. This is, Jesus is the name of God. Jesus is a name we can pronounce, call upon, and have a relationship with. Jesus is God incarnate in the flesh. This is why, when the Pharisees asks Jesus about his true identity, Jesus responds with, "I AM". Jesus is God, revealed.

"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" (John 8:58)

This is a trinitarian perspective. There are others that don't believe Jesus is God incarnate (JW's and restored church etc), and is the created being the divine Son, and don't worship him, so they obviously want to see the divine name restored and used. (1 cor 8:6, jer 16:21) By the way, just because the jews were too scared to pronounce the name of God because of religious dogma instilled into them by the pious pharisees and sadducees doesn't mean it should remain silent. Plenty of people have argued about the vowel order and there's nothing wrong with calling the God of the Bible Jehovah or Yahweh because they are the closest pronunciations we'll probably ever get.

Interestingly though, the hebrew letters in the tetragrammaton (yud hey vav hey as they'd be pronounced in english) have pictorial equivalent as does all hebrew. These equate to hand behold, nail behold. So it could be argued that in the name of the father is the name/identity of the Son, which I personally find pretty cool.

[Built To Last]

Actually, to pronounce YHWH as "yahweh" or "jehovah" is entirely inaccurate because, as we have already stated, that name wasn't allowed to be pronounced. The reason we think "yahweh" or "jehovah" is the name of God is because some ignorant person long ago tried to pronounce syllables that were never meant to be pronounced in the first place.

That ignorant person being the high priest correct?

No. The High Priest was the only person who knew how to pronounce the name of God and presumably he never told anyone except his successors. We have no way of knowing what the High Priest actually said when he pronounced the name of God.

[-SpectraL]

The vowels are guesswork, because there is no vowels in Hebrew, but what the vowels most probably are can be determined from looking at words of similar nature. From that in-depth research, we can take a highly educated guess that the mising vowels are in fact E, O, and A.

[splooge gook]

lol

[-SpectraL]

The closest we can come to God's actual name is (Moses asked God the question directly through the burning bush)  I Am Who I Shall Prove To Be.

Moses: Who are you?
God: I am who I shall prove to be.
Moses: But if they ask me who sent me, what shall I tell them?
God: Tell them, I Am Who I Shall Prove To Be has sent you.

[RisiR]

There is absolutely nothing comparable in the created world to the nature of God. Therefore, when humans attempt to describe God, we are forced to describe God by the things that God is not; to describe the Creator in terms of the creation. This is why all religious analogies ultimately fall short of the mark.

Christianity turns the tables on the name of God. In Christianity the name of God is not "yahweh" or "jehovah" but Jesus. This is, Jesus is the name of God. Jesus is a name we can pronounce, call upon, and have a relationship with. Jesus is God incarnate in the flesh.

This is contradictory. You contradict yourself.

[-SpectraL]

Research the word, Eheyeh.

[Jesus Christ]

i read it.  s'awright.

[Obbe]

Research the word, Eheyeh.

It would be interesting to read your take on it.

[-SpectraL]

Research the word, Eheyeh.

It would be interesting to read your take on it.

Eheyeh (אהיה) means "I will become." And when the phrase, "will become" is researched, we find it means that the person "will prove to be"... something... but we're left to guess what that something will be.

[Obbe]

Research the word, Eheyeh.

It would be interesting to read your take on it.

Eheyeh (אהיה) means "I will become." And when the phrase, "will become" is researched, we find it means that the person "will prove to be"... something... but we're left to guess what that something will be.

So basically it isn't important.