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Offline equanimity

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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2014, 02:35:27 am »
I forgot about this thread.

This is just your opinion, I rarely even think about my firearms unless they need cleaned or moved or something.

Yes, that piece is just my opinion.  There are probably ways to roughly quantify psychological distress and perform studies, but it probably hasn't been done in this way.  I believe with all my heart that it is true, for what it's worth.  Some of my personal experiences have led me here.  The overarching theme of being fearful of one another is the bigger concern here.  That people feel it is wise to invest in weapons for the sole purpose of killing other people for x and y reasons.  It's kind of depressing.

People are good.  All of them.  This is something I have to believe.  I'm not sure what I'd do if I didn't trust in humanity.

You will never get polio either, but I bet you still got vaccinated against it, didn't you?

We're required vaccinations for work.  Vaccinations are different.  Purchasing a weapon just in case you have to kill someone is a lot different than protecting yourself from infection.


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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2014, 05:44:57 am »
My parents let me have a shotgun when I was 12, and I kept it in my closet all through high school.  I grew up around guns and hunting, and that is all a gun is to me, a tool that I keep in my closet.  You need to put in a screw, you use a screwdriver.  You need to hammer in a nail, you use a hammer.  You need to put a hole in living flesh, you use a gun.  It is just a tool.

It's a tool intended to end life, and must be handled with great presence and care.  Lots of tools are dangerous and they each impact the human mind to some extent.  Or rather, the human mind affects itself in response to the tools.  It's usually not common for us to consider what sort of relationship we have with inanimate objects, but it's there for everything we interact with.

And I approve of your right to own firearms and use them as you will (as long as it's legal and you're never shooting or threatening another person), but to look at the link in OP and say, "Oh, this is useful information!" or even go further and practice searching for and murdering people in your house or another building is an exercise in fear.

I work hard to love people, and hope that it helps make me into the sort of person I want to be.  If you want to be the sort of person that is suspicious of friends, family and neighbors, and cynical as a default; then that's good too. But don't tell me you're not affected by your relationship with your firearms.


No more than you are affected by your relationship with your insurance provider
« Last Edit: September 30, 2014, 05:52:48 am by ricomock »
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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2014, 08:37:23 am »
Me and my guns have never murdered anyone, and I doubt they and I ever will.

You were born with fleshy appendages on the end of your arms, complete with phalanges that you can curl into a dense mass and strike other living things with it.  Is being born with natural means to harm opponents just a way to 'exacerbate feelings of mistrust and lower your faith in the goodness found in other people?'  What about cats and their claws, alligators and their teeth?  Is it more likely that we were given natural and created weapons to foment violence and evil in this world, or that god gave us 'tools' to facilitate our existence and create the society and life that we have now? 

Reality works counterintuitively...one would think that a world where everyone works as one and we all are peaceful, would be the best way, but it is not.  Our world is one where competition and striving are the order of the day.  This 'survival of the fittest' type of mechanism ensures that the ones who rise to the top are the stronger or more determined among us, and their talents and strengths can contribute to our world in the best way.  Do you really want mr or ms. average running the show?  No, you want the best, and competition does this very nicely.

Keep your hand clenched tightly into a fist for 60 seconds.  Then spend 60 seconds with it held open gently.

Notice a difference?

And that's not how "survival of the fittest" always works :P

Male rhinoceros beetles compete with each other for mating rights by ramming one another with their "horns".  They see another male and they fight him in this way, and oftentimes the winner does get to mate.  But there are many smaller, "weaker" males that get to mate without ever being at risk for fighting.  They look like female rhinoceros beetles, and the other males ignore them while they're busy being macho and mean, giving them ample opportunity to mate to their heart's content.

This can definitely be seen as just another example of competition, but my point is that even within a competitive system the values aren't always blargh violence death strength!  Peacefulness, community and compassion are never weaknesses.  They're beautiful strengths ;)

God-fucking-dammit you guys shouldn't have fed this troll.  This thread was about room clearing, not the merits of self defense and gun ownership. 
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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2014, 12:18:59 pm »
This thread was about room clearing, not the merits of self defense and gun ownership.

A simple solution of 1 part vinegar to 10 parts water can be used to replace household cleaning products, such as those containing bleach.  It's economical and green! :)


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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2014, 11:08:21 pm »
This thread was about room clearing, not the merits of self defense and gun ownership.

A simple solution of 1 part vinegar to 10 parts water can be used to replace household cleaning products, such as those containing bleach.  It's economical and green! :)

wholly on topic

id buy that for a dollar

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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2014, 11:37:07 pm »
Why would this ever be useful information?

Y'all watch too many action films lol.

Hope no one robs your ass.... oh wait yes I do.

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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2014, 12:14:30 am »
Why would this ever be useful information?

Y'all watch too many action films lol.

Hope no one robs your ass.... oh wait yes I do.

Surprisingly this is one of only a very few decent tutorials I have seen about navigating a building with armed intruders
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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2014, 05:30:57 am »
This thread just goes to show that every citizen, from the mentally disturbed to the affluent need access to nuclear weapons. After all, nuclear weapons are simply a tool to be used in defense of our livelihoods. You can pry my trident nuclear submarine from my cold dead hands. How you like them apples Obama?
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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2014, 06:19:00 am »
Lol, never thought I'd agree with the sentiment expressed in a louis cypher post and yet here I am.

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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2014, 07:01:14 am »
Not a bad how to, but they left out of the most important part. Having a fucking change of underwear if and when you shit yourself. If you have ever cleared a house or some type of multiroom building by your self then you would exactly what I mean. But none the less it is good for giving you the bare basics. 

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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2014, 11:33:54 am »
Not a bad how to, but they left out of the most important part. Having a fucking change of underwear if and when you shit yourself. If you have ever cleared a house or some type of multiroom building by your self then you would exactly what I mean. But none the less it is good for giving you the bare basics.

Anyone that needs to wear a diaper to play with the big boys shouldn't be allowed access to firearms in the first place.

They should stick to playing house with their barbie dolls

Much safer for everyone

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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2014, 04:02:00 pm »
Why would this ever be useful information?

Y'all watch too many action films lol.

Yeah, because in real life, no one ever needs to defend themselves or their property with armed force.

No amount of property is worth killing someone over.   If my family had kept guns around when I was a teenager I'd probably be dead.  Just sayin'.

Bullshit. Have you ever worked for anything in your life?

Bleeding heart liberal faggot.
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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2014, 04:06:59 pm »
Anyone that needs to wear a diaper to play with the big boys shouldn't be allowed access to firearms in the first place.

They should stick to playing house with their barbie dolls

Much safer for everyone

easy to say that sitting in a chair safe in your house.  if you are faced with the possibility of mortal danger, you would have to be an automaton to not feel fear and apprehension.
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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2014, 04:47:47 pm »
Anyone that needs to wear a diaper to play with the big boys shouldn't be allowed access to firearms in the first place.

They should stick to playing house with their barbie dolls

Much safer for everyone

easy to say that sitting in a chair safe in your house.  if you are faced with the possibility of mortal danger, you would have to be an automaton to not feel fear and apprehension.

You use 'you' entirely too liberally

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Re: Wikihow to clear a building w a firearm
« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2014, 04:51:46 pm »
Bullshit. Have you ever worked for anything in your life?

Bleeding heart liberal faggot.

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