The Thanks Function

[Jedi Moped]

I thing instead of a thanks system this board should have a sports car.

Well you certainly are not a mindless button clicker but you are neither and adult or in possession of discussion/debate skills. And you certainly don't want to separate adults from children based on your self professed predilection for post pubescent females. So what is your position on the OP's topic exactly?

Poor Rodent....the guy still can't contain his butthurt or emotional impulses and stay on topic. Instead just keep on spamming and fail-flaming his usual derailing bullshit, all the while people are trying to have productive discourse.

Funny, coming from a Faggrt with two accounts that has done nothing but Bitch & Moan in every single post on multiple boards for the last five years.

 

[FON]

Yes, zoklet was overrun with shitposts, but as a community we are capable of far more. At least by ditching thanks we remove some incentive for people to make utterly retarded posts in the hopes that some spastic on the other side of the world gets a chuckle. Literally nothing bad can come from keeping it removed. If its main function was to allow people to acknowledge posts without typing then all we stand to gain is more posts. I know if I see something I really like and there isn't a thanks option I'll be at least trying to think of something to say.

[Proots]

Yes, zoklet was overrun with shitposts, but as a community we are capable of far more. At least by ditching thanks we remove some incentive for people to make utterly retarded posts in the hopes that some spastic on the other side of the world gets a chuckle. Literally nothing bad can come from keeping it removed. If its main function was to allow people to acknowledge posts without typing then all we stand to gain is more posts. I know if I see something I really like and there isn't a thanks option I'll be at least trying to think of something to say.

This right here. I think FON pointed out the main gripe I have with the "thanks" system, far more succinctly than I ever could have managed :

"If its main function was to allow people to acknowledge posts without typing then all we stand to gain is more posts"

[Deviant]

I think it's too early for this poll. People still have too much Zoklet nostalgia.

And someone said something about multiple accounts voting, I suspect this as well. Most of the people who want the Thanks system are the kind of people who would make multiple accounts just to influence a poll.

That being said, if this...

Just a reminder that if a Thanks system gets implemented, it will not count someone's total thanks at all. Thanks will be contained to threads.

is true, it doesn't really matter. But we do need a low number of available thanks to give per day, I say no more than 3. Also can we please have the option to remove thanks?

[RisiR]

When thanks are bound to threads, does it show up like this

RisiR is a faggot - 10000 thanks or like it was on Zoklet inside the thread under the OP?

Maybe we could try it for a week and then decide again.

Not that I have anything to say or whatever. 

[Spectre]

Yes, zoklet was overrun with shitposts, but as a community we are capable of far more. At least by ditching thanks we remove some incentive for people to make utterly retarded posts in the hopes that some spastic on the other side of the world gets a chuckle. Literally nothing bad can come from keeping it removed. If its main function was to allow people to acknowledge posts without typing then all we stand to gain is more posts. I know if I see something I really like and there isn't a thanks option I'll be at least trying to think of something to say.

This right here. I think FON pointed out the main gripe I have with the "thanks" system, far more succinctly than I ever could have managed :

"If its main function was to allow people to acknowledge posts without typing then all we stand to gain is more posts"

and the point I'm making is more posts do not = good posts on totse 2 we had entire threads on BLTC that were un moderatable messes I tried trust me and thanks would have been a much better way to keep those posts down there are plenty of posts now most of them are shit and having someone bump threads to go ^this is fucking retarded

[Proots]

Yes, zoklet was overrun with shitposts, but as a community we are capable of far more. At least by ditching thanks we remove some incentive for people to make utterly retarded posts in the hopes that some spastic on the other side of the world gets a chuckle. Literally nothing bad can come from keeping it removed. If its main function was to allow people to acknowledge posts without typing then all we stand to gain is more posts. I know if I see something I really like and there isn't a thanks option I'll be at least trying to think of something to say.

This right here. I think FON pointed out the main gripe I have with the "thanks" system, far more succinctly than I ever could have managed :

"If its main function was to allow people to acknowledge posts without typing then all we stand to gain is more posts"

and the point I'm making is more posts do not = good posts on totse 2 we had entire threads on BLTC that were un moderatable messes I tried trust me and thanks would have been a much better way to keep those posts down there are plenty of posts now most of them are shit and having someone bump threads to go ^this is fucking retarded

I agree with you that more posts don't necessarily equal good posts. And, people are going to bump threads, post "this" and generally make poor posts whether there is a "thanks" system or not. I see eye to eye with you there, I just don't see how a "thanks" system is going to improve anything.

[Spectre]

I agree with you that more posts don't necessarily equal good posts. And, people are going to bump threads, post "this" and generally make poor posts whether there is a "thanks" system or not. I see eye to eye with you there, I just don't see how a "thanks" system is going to improve anything.

Than we are in agreement I don't think the thanks system will improve or ruin anything. I just think it will make it easier for users to interact is all

[Rowan]

Just a reminder that if a Thanks system gets implemented, it will not count someone's total thanks at all. Thanks will be contained to threads.

This system would at least curb the shitposting for thanks some. Shitposters are going to post shit no matter what system of thanks/no thanks is implemented and good posters are not going to just turn into shit posters to get the thanks. How do people let one little button dictate the quality of the contributions they make to this site? That is just sad and shallow. And although not having one might cause people to post a "thanks" type response to a post they like, having one so people can get on to other things might also create new posts in other threads/topics. The site has rules to curb shitposting and the mods have the ability to enforce them:

1. No spam. This means posts that are not relevant or do not add anything at all to the thread or the discussion in it. ('this's are allowed though) This also means threads which do not add anything to the sub-forum it's posted in. Necrobumping without contributing something to the thread and completely illegible posts or threads are also spam.

[DaGuru]

Funny, coming from a Faggrt with two accounts that has done nothing but Bitch & Moan in every single post on multiple boards for the last five years.

Oh look, more derailing nonsense from the pathetic little chump still clinging to my nuts all this time. You mind if we actually go back to the topic at hand, and leave your obsessive butthurt out of at least one thread? Bet you can't do it.....

Of course it does. The 'thanks' system rewards people for certain types of posting. There was a lot of shitposters on zoklet who encouraged each other with this sort of thing. The whole culture of the site was starting to form around shitposting.



Well, you - for one - apparently think it should be on the site. According to you it improves the site because it allows people to acknowledge a post without saying anything, because it's fun and because it's popular.

However, I think these are all shit reasons.

1. Who cares if you can't acknowledge a post? Are people really so starved of validation that this is necessary? Do others feel the need so bad to have their name seen on the page that this is necessary? Is it possible that by removing this aspect we might encourage people to put some thought in and make an actual response? Stop being a little bitch.

2. Fun? Are you some sort of fucking retard?

3. Shitposting was also popular on zoklet.

None of these pose even a significant improvement, other than avoiding a few faggots like you complaining in B&M about how you can't circle-jerk each other into homosexual oblivion anymore. We should try the forum without a system that didn't do much other than encourage shitposts and give me the occasional dopamine rush.

Absolutely this to a mutha-fuckin "T". Especially the part about "integrating with the site" and "acknowledging" a post. That IS the whole point in all of this, your integration IS the posting. Period. If someone is so desperate to "be part of a thread", and they can't express it in their OWN ORIGINAL OPINION, then they have no business doing or saying anything. And again, why would we want a userbase made up of people that have this childish impulse to "want to be part of something"....yet don't fit in because they can't express themselves through text? That IS the point of message boards, to use text to share your perception. Nothing more, nothing less.

A lot of people discuss "why" Totse and Zoklet ended up becoming havens for kidiots and idiocy in the last few years...and while I agree to some extent it somewhat went to bad management and perhaps the internet itself changed somewhat...anyone ever think that LESS WAS MORE? Meaning in the olden days of Totse ALL you had at your disposal was the text you put on the screen to develop the credibility (and for some I guess validation(?). You didn't have avatars, signatures, or silly thanks buttons to play with....instead your reputation and the way people recognized you was based on the consistency of your posts and the knowledge/opinion you brought to the masses. Everyone seems to agree that posting on forums is "worse" nowadays, you folks think some of that might be attributed to "posting" not being the focal point....instead the ideology of "experience", all based on bells, whistles, and fluff??

In regards to the poll, and whatever numbers it comes up to...I too believe the numbers lie, and significant analysis needs to be done in regard to who is voting which way. Arnox, if you are putting any sincerity behind this poll, you need to look at each and every vote, and examine the "quality" of every voter. Even if its a 10-1 ratio when its all said and done, if you have a bunch of alts and LOUSY posters so desperately asking for this thanks nonsense, you need to put more weight on the "quality" people/posters votes....as long as your endgame is still trying to maintain a "quality" userbase and website.

[Idiosyncrasy]

I'm glad to see that people are concerned about post quality.  If there was no concern, then we would be hosed.

Sorry for comparing everything to Facebook, but it is a good reference for this.  I think about myself and how I interact with people on Facebook.  Though it seems shallow to admit it, since Facebook uses 'likes,' I now always think about how many likes I might get by my peers when I post something.

Pro:  It encourages me to post things that are pleasing to the community, thus keeping them interested and engaged.

Con: It limits what I feel is acceptable to say.

That is the great thing about a place like this.  Here, we can and do say anything we want with no fear of being shunned by our peers.  That is, of course, largely due to the shroud of anonymity and the disconnect we have with each other from our real-world reputations, but we have to think about how a 'thanks' system would change that.

Back to Facebook, I notice a lot of people who I have "friended" who post a lot of mindless drivel, however it contains a certain level of wit.  A lot of these posts generate a lot of likes.  On the flip side, I have seen a lot of well-thought, logically formed, and well-articulated posts that have not generated the same level of acceptance.  Is this because of the community of which they choose to be a part?  Maybe.  But I bet it discourages them from making a ton of controversial, thought-provoking posts because they do not garner the appreciation implied by the load of 'likes' that one gets when he or she posts their little punch line.

So are we like Facebook?  No, we are not.  I do think that those controversial topics would generate a lot of 'thanks' here.  But I think the "shit-posts" would get a lot more, as evident by precedent.  Do we want our focus to be on stimulating discussion, or on marketing our message to generate a conditioned response?

I like that Arnox said there would not be a running tally.  That takes a lot of implied importance off of it.  But people will still keep a rough tally in their mind, and they will notice trends.  If someone typed a short essay with several distinctive points with supporting information, and they remember that they only got a fraction of the 'thanks' that someone else got for posting a singular fragmented racial remark, then what is the motivation?  This place is not a blog or a journal.  We do not post here just for ourselves.  We post here to engage in discussions with others.  When the discussion stops, then so does the livelihood of the site.

It is up to you to decide how to keep the discussion alive, and how to rejuvenate it.  Well, it's really up to Arnox, but it's up to you to decide how to apply influence.  After all, he is here to engage in discussion with you in ways that cannot be done elsewhere.  That is our unique value proposition.

[Rizzo in a box]

Totse didn't need thanks.

[John Smith]

  On the flip side, I have seen a lot of well-thought, logically formed, and well-articulated posts that have not generated the same level of acceptance.  Is this because of the community of which they choose to be a part?  Maybe.  But I bet it discourages them from making a ton of controversial, thought-provoking posts because they do not garner the appreciation implied by the load of 'likes' that one gets when he or she posts their little punch line.

It's a reflection of the common man! They want cheap laughs, not deep thoughts. Who actually has a positive perception of the average person?

If someone typed a short essay with several distinctive points with supporting information, and they remember that they only got a fraction of the 'thanks' that someone else got for posting a singular fragmented racial remark, then what is the motivation?

For the same reason as the above, it's a reflection of  the TL;DR users. Why compare it? Thanks are still appreciated and are likely deeper felt by the giver to valuable content like you described, while those comments will be forgotten.

[xbcnfujv]

no fuck.

[Jedi Moped]

Yes, zoklet was overrun with shitposts, but as a community we are capable of far more. At least by ditching thanks we remove some incentive for people to make utterly retarded posts in the hopes that some spastic on the other side of the world gets a chuckle. Literally nothing bad can come from keeping it removed. If its main function was to allow people to acknowledge posts without typing then all we stand to gain is more posts. I know if I see something I really like and there isn't a thanks option I'll be at least trying to think of something to say.

This right here. I think FON pointed out the main gripe I have with the "thanks" system, far more succinctly than I ever could have managed :

"If its main function was to allow people to acknowledge posts without typing then all we stand to gain is more posts"

and the point I'm making is more posts do not = good posts on totse 2 we had entire threads on BLTC that were un moderatable messes I tried trust me and thanks would have been a much better way to keep those posts down there are plenty of posts now most of them are shit and having someone bump threads to go ^this is fucking retarded

We could cut the shit posting by 65% if you would delete DaGuru and another 25% if you killed yourself.