The Thanks Function

[Spectre]

As I've said in other threads....all thanks does is encourage, attract and motivate the WRONG kind of poster. Do you want mindless button clickers that actually need some cheesy validation by strangers while chasing a meaningless statistic? Or do you want intelligent adults with great discussion and debate skills? This really isn't about what makes a handful of people good for a few seconds, instead the BIGGER PICTURE of the long term future of this website. Period.

Arnox, just in case you do cave in to the slobber herd.....is there a way to opt out of the thanks feature? Meaning a user has a choice to disable having their posts thanked, kind of a way to separate the adults from the little children?

Holy fuck if it's a meaningless feature why would you care who thanks you or others? would you rather have threads clogged by shit posters going ^this repeatedly to the post above them. You can't say that it empirically motivates the "wrong" kind of user you have no fucking metric for that you also can't claim it has such a horrible impact while also saying thanks are meaningless, people like you are the ones making a big deal about them.

[Umbrella Corp]

So does the vote decide whether we get the thanks option?  Or does the discussion.

If you impliment thanks because a majority voted for it, that ironically represents the reason why thanks are retarded in the first place.  Consensus being made based on how many people think a certain way instead of on the quality of the arguments.

If I say IntoSanctuary Rules and then Infiniteshock says "Shut up faggot" and gets 10 Thanks, it looks like he won even tho immature non-contributing shitposters were the ones to hit thank.

Edit: I do not have a dog in this fight, it won't really matter to me one way or the other.  Just giving my honest assessment.

[Spectre]

So does the vote decide whether we get the thanks option?  Or does the discussion.

If you impliment thanks because a majority voted for it, that ironically represents the reason why thanks are retarded in the first place.  Consensus being made based on how many people think a certain way instead of on the quality of the arguments.

If I say IntoSanctuary Rules and then Infiniteshock says "Shut up faggot" and gets 10 Thanks, it looks like he won even tho immature non-contributing shitposters were the ones to hit thank.

or it just means there are 10 users who like/agree with his post and nobody "wins" or "loses" any-fucking-thing it sounds like people just don't want others to agree with posts they don't like which is fucking laughable if he has 10 thanks he has 10 thanks that has no god damn bearing on any statement you make

[Infinityshock]

you had to use me as an example for shit posting...

[aldra]

No. I've gotten a ton of thanks. 90% of it came from calling tacho a nigger.

The thanks system is stupid and goes against the point of the forum. Some of the worst posters had a ton of thanks and some of the good posters had few. People give thanks more for stupid one liners than well thought out posts, the entire concept doesn't work. also only faggots care about thanks in the first place therefore only faggots want a thanks system. Fuck faggots. And niggers. *waits for thanks*

this and I'm pretty sure vizier had the highest (actual) count on the site.

as for rep, it was mostly just used as a trolling gloryhole on totse2 - a few people built up massive rep counts through circle-jerks, then used them to smash the rep value of others and spam them with "faggot" or "nigger" or "niggerfaggot". which was pretty funny at the time, but ultimately meaningless.

the work needed to implement this would be more than nothing, so it'd vastly outweigh the value of implementing a system.

[Spectre]

you had to use me as an example for shit posting...

it's pretty accurate except the part where anyone would thank anything that came from your cum-bubble breathing mouth

[Spectre]

the work needed to implement this would be more than nothing, so it'd vastly outweigh the value of implementing a system.

so far this is the best and most compelling counter argument to thanks

[Umbrella Corp]

So does the vote decide whether we get the thanks option?  Or does the discussion.

If you impliment thanks because a majority voted for it, that ironically represents the reason why thanks are retarded in the first place.  Consensus being made based on how many people think a certain way instead of on the quality of the arguments.

If I say IntoSanctuary Rules and then Infiniteshock says "Shut up faggot" and gets 10 Thanks, it looks like he won even tho immature non-contributing shitposters were the ones to hit thank.

or it just means there are 10 users who like/agree with his post and nobody "wins" or "loses" any-fucking-thing it sounds like people just don't want others to agree with posts they don't like which is fucking laughable if he has 10 thanks he has 10 thanks that has no god damn bearing on any statement you make

The example was a bad one, it wasn't ment to be realistic.  I'm just making an argument for the No side because I lean that way.  You are getting way too serious about this for some reason. 

The only point in thanks is to get validation.  It isn't necessary unless you have a hungry ego.  The only argument I see for Thanks is that it is a fun way to approve of somebodies posts.. but damn you are getting so serious like it is more than that.

[Spectre]

The only point in thanks is to get validation.  It isn't necessary unless you have a hungry ego.  The only argument I see for Thanks is that it is a fun way to approve of somebodies posts.. but damn you are getting so serious like it is more than that.

Except I'm not that's the exact point I'm arguing the people that are getting serious are the ones that come into every thread like this and doomsay like adding a like button is the equivalent of driving the site into a wall at 100mph. How does someone else getting their own validation effect anyone but themselves. People take this too seriously in that they don't want someone else to get validation because they're too insecure in their own damn selves to deal with the fact someone might be liked more than them.

[Lucifer]

you had to use me as an example for shit posting...

You have yet to make a single worthwhile post here, despite registering 4 months prior to most of these faggots. You are the epitome of shitposter. Kill yourself.

[RisiR]

10/10 thread. Would make again.   

[Infinityshock]

you had to use me as an example for shit posting...

You have yet to make a single worthwhile post here, despite registering 4 months prior to most of these faggots. You are the epitome of shitposter. Kill yourself.

if there is anything here you dont enjoy reading make use of the ignore feature

other wise stfu and go deepthroat a flaming porcupine

[Umbrella Corp]

The only point in thanks is to get validation.  It isn't necessary unless you have a hungry ego.  The only argument I see for Thanks is that it is a fun way to approve of somebodies posts.. but damn you are getting so serious like it is more than that.

Except I'm not that's the exact point I'm arguing the people that are getting serious are the ones that come into every thread like this and doomsay like adding a like button is the equivalent of driving the site into a wall at 100mph. How does someone else getting their own validation effect anyone but themselves. People take this too seriously in that they don't want someone else to get validation because they're too insecure in their own damn selves to deal with the fact someone might be liked more than them.

Seemed like you were getting serious with the 4 letter words.

I made it clear I don't really care one way or the other.  I have an opinion on the matter which may or may not be wrong just throwing it out there.  Tho I do see what you mean, some people acting like it would single handedly destroy the community.

[Spectre]

I made it clear I don't really care one way or the other.  I have an opinion on the matter which may or may not be wrong just throwing it out there.  Tho I do see what you mean, some people acting like it would single handedly destroy the community.

That's where I disagree with them is that a thanks system would ruin the site in someway

I'm also just fond of four letter words

[DaGuru]

Holy fuck if it's a meaningless feature why would you care who thanks you or others? would you rather have threads clogged by shit posters going ^this repeatedly to the post above them. You can't say that it empirically motivates the "wrong" kind of user you have no fucking metric for that you also can't claim it has such a horrible impact while also saying thanks are meaningless, people like you are the ones making a big deal about them.

Because I don't think websites like this should be a popularity contest, nor should it be about seeking some kind of social validation or even acceptance. That was a strong core part of Totse itself..."going against the grain". I'm not looking for posters that are agreeable or even well liked, I would rather mingle with a bunch of people that have the intellect and enough sauce in their step to stand by their perceptions/opinions and to hell with whatever anyone else thinks (including myself). The kind of person who IRL has enough fortitude to stand up in a room full of people and say "I don't agree with ANY of you and here is why....." and then proceed to give a well thought out argument that nobody else has brought up yet before.

And yeah, when you have a small herd of people thinking/acting alike with such an obvious group mentality...it can ruin the vibe of some forums. By the end of Zoklet, you couldn't even go into the Conspiracy or Religious forums, because it was filled with trolls just jumping on any new or different opinion. Someone makes a thread..."I believe in aliens because....". And then someone says, "herp derp, you are just a kook" or some other grade school insult. 5 or 6 people jump on that post and thank the troll, how is that inciting sincere discourse about the subject matter?

Most importantly in that scenario, if someone NEW comes here and discovers the Conspiracy forum, what will they walk away thinking? "Well, I can't talk about aliens on this website, because the communal attitude is just to act the fool and shoot down other people's experiences by childish naysayers". They then logout and never return because of these silly antics, and we probably lost a great mind, a great poster, and great ideas....all because people don't want to be subjected to what appears on the surface as childish trolling and stupid antics.

Again, this isn't so much about the CURRENT posters, but the ones you are looking to attract tomorrow, next month, next year. And if you have  a bunch of spastic children just piggy-backing each other's fail flames and 4-channing one-liners, then that is EXACTLY the kind of poster you'll attract and retain in the years to come. Just like on Zoklet.....