Atheism

[Shark Jumper]

This thread is to talk about atheism. Tell stories of how you may or may not have become an atheist. Share your opinions. Argue. 

[Infinityshock]

simple:

show one...just one...example of evidence that follows evidentiary procedure that proves god exists. 

no one can.  ergo...there is no god, and all you religious zealots are submitting to the oldest and cheapest form of behavioral manipulation in human history

[Shark Jumper]

simple:

show one...just one...example of evidence that follows evidentiary procedure that proves god exists. 

no one can.  ergo...there is no god, and all you religious zealots are submitting to the oldest and cheapest form of behavioral manipulation in human history

And how would you reply to those who claim the Bible to be all the evidence they need?

[Infinityshock]

the bible isnt evidence.  it was written over thousands of years by individuals who have no cited sources or evidence.  the bible couldnt even be used as a paper submitted into any credible college course due to its lack of validity as well as citable sources

the bible is a combination of stories selected by a group of individuals to suit their agenda. 

[Shark Jumper]

the bible isnt evidence.  it was written over thousands of years by individuals who have no cited sources or evidence.  the bible couldnt even be used as a paper submitted into any credible college course due to its lack of validity as well as citable sources

the bible is a combination of stories selected by a group of individuals to suit their agenda.

Yeah. I usually ask people why they would pay attention to authors who were struggling to explain how the world around them worked. They didn't understand what caused sickness or natural disasters. Why let them tell you something like how the universe was made?

[Arnox]

show one...just one...example of evidence that follows evidentiary procedure that proves god exists.

*puts on Mormon hat*

Read the Book of Mormon and pray as to its validity with full purpose of heart and real intent (not just buzzwords there) and I guarantee you, you'll receive a witness to your core that the Church is true and God is real.

Of course, it's something that must be discovered for oneself and cannot be taken as proof by anyone else that hasn't done it.

[Shark Jumper]

Arnox, I really like your signature after your comments.

[Arnox]

Arnox, I really like your signature after your comments.

*bows* Thank you.

[burroughs]

I consider myself agnostic, I think.

Most arguments for Atheism I hear poke holes in various Christian beliefs. These might be totally valid arguments against Jesus and such but do nothing to disprove the existence of a creator, one who is not necessarily the God of Abraham. Other, more generalized arguments I've come across propose various paradoxes of a higher being, like, "If God is all powerful, can he create a being more powerful than himself?".

The latter arguments I find to be incredibly silly, because basically, the creator of the universe wouldn't be bound by the rules of his own creation. I.E., if God exists, 1 + 1 = 2 because he fucking said so and for no other reason at all. His being and existence would be so far beyond our comprehension that it's entirely laughable to try and trap him with a game you learned in Philosophy 101.

[Shark Jumper]

Most arguments for Atheism I hear poke holes in various Christian beliefs. These might be totally valid arguments against Jesus and such but do nothing to disprove the existence of a creator, one who is not necessarily the God of Abraham. Other, more generalized arguments I've come across propose various paradoxes of a higher being, like, "If God is all powerful, can he create a being more powerful than himself?".

I usually go by what Christopher Hitchens once said.
"That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."   

[Arnox]

Perhaps what I hate the most is that Atheism is becoming the cool thing to believe in now and if you're religious at all, you're automatically viewed as a sheep.

[buddha]

Perhaps what I hate the most is that Atheism is becoming the cool thing to believe in now and if you're religious at all, you're automatically viewed as a sheep.

Really, here (southern California) seems like everyone is a Christian, and vocal as fuck about it. That shit's annoying, talking to a girl, and after wasting 30 minutes you find out she's saving herself for Jesus or some shit. GAY

[Shark Jumper]

Perhaps what I hate the most is that Atheism is becoming the cool thing to believe in now and if you're religious at all, you're automatically viewed as a sheep.

Yeah. That does tend to be a problem. It pisses me off too when people ironically flock like sheep to an idea that has become symbolic of free thinking. Many have not come to that conclusion themselves after months or years of hard thought. They do it because they think it's rebellious or "trendy."

Personally, I was raised Christian, and believed it with all my heart. I started to doubt it around age 13. Over those next two years I slowly progressed my thinking and realized that I had no reason, nor did I want to believe in any religion. Been atheist for almost 5 years now. Dropping religion was actually one of the best things I ever did for myself because it helped me to reanalyze any other preconceptions or indoctrination I may have had in my life.

I don't go around militantly preaching atheism, because that makes you just as bad as a dogmatic street preacher. But, if someone engages me in debate of their own volition, I will destroy them. 

[Arnox]

Really, here (southern California) seems like everyone is a Christian, and vocal as fuck about it. That shit's annoying, talking to a girl, and after wasting 30 minutes you find out she's saving herself for Jesus or some shit. GAY

It has been my experience that a lot of people are either atheist for the wrong reasons or christian for the wrong reasons.

Yeah. That does tend to be a problem. It pisses me off too when people ironically flock like sheep to an idea that has become symbolic of free thinking. Many have not come to that conclusion themselves after months or years of hard thought. They do it because they think it's rebellious or "trendy."

Personally, I was raised Christian, and believed it with all my heart. I started to doubt it around age 13. Over those next two years I slowly progressed my thinking and realized that I had no reason, nor did I want to believe in any religion. Been atheist for almost 5 years now. Dropping religion was actually one of the best things I ever did for myself because it helped me to reanalyze any other preconceptions or indoctrination I may have had in my life.

I don't go around militantly preaching atheism, because that makes you just as bad as a dogmatic street preacher. But, if someone engages me in debate of their own volition, I will destroy them. 

What are your main reasons for disbelieving Christianity?

[buddha]

Really, here (southern California) seems like everyone is a Christian, and vocal as fuck about it. That shit's annoying, talking to a girl, and after wasting 30 minutes you find out she's saving herself for Jesus or some shit. GAY

It has been my experience that a lot of people are either atheist for the wrong reasons or christian for the wrong reasons.

Yeah. That does tend to be a problem. It pisses me off too when people ironically flock like sheep to an idea that has become symbolic of free thinking. Many have not come to that conclusion themselves after months or years of hard thought. They do it because they think it's rebellious or "trendy."

Personally, I was raised Christian, and believed it with all my heart. I started to doubt it around age 13. Over those next two years I slowly progressed my thinking and realized that I had no reason, nor did I want to believe in any religion. Been atheist for almost 5 years now. Dropping religion was actually one of the best things I ever did for myself because it helped me to reanalyze any other preconceptions or indoctrination I may have had in my life.

I don't go around militantly preaching atheism, because that makes you just as bad as a dogmatic street preacher. But, if someone engages me in debate of their own volition, I will destroy them. 

What are your main reasons for disbelieving Christianity?

I don't think I said that, or stated any religious preference.