Carnality => Money Money Money... => Topic started by: Idiosyncrasy on May 23, 2014, 12:22:21 am
Title: How to survive without getting a real job.
Post by: Idiosyncrasy on May 23, 2014, 12:22:21 am
By buddha, totse2 Originally posted 10/08/2011 --
Hopefully this won't be as long winded as it is in my head.
I see a lot of threads of people wanting to make money, small amounts. Well, here we go.
I'm going to try and list most of the ways I have avoided having to get a real job for over 6 years. You won't ever get rich doing this shit, but it will keep you stocked up on pop-tarts and beer.
1.) Pick up change. This one may seem a bit silly, but really, you see pennies, nickles, dimes, all over the place, but rarely do I see most people pick them up. Don't be too proud to stoop down in the crosswalk to grab that penny. That shit adds up. Get a big water jug, and put it in there. Save it for a rainy day, or when you really need a beer.
2.) Recycle. Pretty much the same as number 1. Carry a backpack with you, and a grocery bag (plastic). When you see a can, bottle, pick it up. Not only are you doing a good thing by helping to clean up the environment, but cans are worth almost $2 a pound here in CA. When you are bored, sitting at home watching asian ass porn, go for a walk down any street. There is usually a pound or two of cans along a mile long street.
3.) Invest. Oh yeah. When you have an extra $20-30 laying around, consider buying an ounce of silver, or something. If you look at silver prices over the last year, shit is going way up. Search sites like CL and ebay for people selling silver coins and such below spot price. Also stay up to date on the price of silver. If the market keeps going well, and you are able to find some good deals, you can pull in some good money depending on the size of your hoard. Granted you have to sell it to get that money, but you'd be surprised at the amount of businesses that will let you buy shit with silver. I have been known to purchase beer and smokes, at local stores with silver, when I had no cash. All you have to do is ask. Not to mention chicks dig it when they come over, and see silver coins and shit laying everywhere, makes your broke ass that much sexier.
4.) Work for websites like oDesk.com or Amazon's Mechanical Turk (mturk.com). I have covered this one pretty well I think, in this thread.
http://www.totse.info/bbs/showthread.php?t=5937
5.) Do real work. For yourself I mean, physical labor is something most people HATE doing. Most will pay good money to not have to do it. Ask around, friends, family, someone knows someone, that needs help with something. Weeding is a big one, people hate doing it. I have made $300 in 2 days pulling weeds. Try to bid by the job, and then bust your ass to get it done quickly, not only are the people more likely to find other work for you and recommend you to friends, but you maximize you money that way. You live in a snowy area? Go door to door and shovel driveways in the morning, before people go to work. Offer to do it for $10, a LOT of people will tip extra. This is the best way. Yeah it seems more like real work, but you won't feel that way when you have a pocket full of cash a stomach full of beer, and you make your own hours. Makes working for someone else a lot easier.
6.) Not really a way to MAKE money. More of a way to keep it. Pretty simple. STOP BUYING SHIT YOU DON'T NEED. Nothing I can't stand more than people always complaining how they are broke, or they don't make enough. Well maybe if you didn't spend all your money of shit you don't need, and likely will only use 1 time, you'd have more money to spend on the better things in life. Like travelling to a far off place. Do you really need 10 pairs of shoes?
Stop driving/get a bike. This isn't always an option depending on where you live, but for 99% of the population it is. I assure you, with a bit of practice you will have no problem riding 30 miles to town in a decent amount of time.
Stop smoking/drinking, add up how much you spend on smokes and beer in a week, now times that times some arbitrary number, now put a minus sign in front of it. That's what it does to your health. Knock it off, not only will you be able to ride your bike to town, but you'll have money to spend when you get there.
Well I hope this gave some of you an idea of where to start. There are literally hundreds of thousands of ways to make a buck. Get creative. If you think it's a dumbass idea, chances are others do to, look at it as you all ready having the market cornered, learn to sell it.
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Post by: Infinityshock on May 23, 2014, 12:41:22 am
or become a minority and get free stuffs without ever having to get a job.
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Post by: Arnox on May 23, 2014, 12:58:11 am
Nice little guide. Also, remember to budget everything. Always have an idea, of course, how much money's in your bank account.
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Post by: Hex535 on May 25, 2014, 02:46:19 pm
Actually tried #1 while I was in highschool, I would wait for all the scrubby scrub scrubs to get in the snack line to buy their "blue Doritos and cup of cheese" (inner city school) and i'd stand at the other side of the line when they'd all get their change in like nickles and dimes and I'd just if they needed it and because they're all idiots of course they don't. The problem is unless you're a scrounge god, you NEED to do it with #2 to make a real impact. I think made 30 bucks in a month. yaaaaay. Fun to do if you have OCD and attention span on the side for it.
#3 buddha was always a funny one. 20 or 30 dollars of silver. ACTUALLY, if you have an eye for the proper type of antiques, you can make proper investments with 20 or 30 bucks and almost double or triple your money sometimes. I watched someone buy a military art tin for like 15 bucks and flipped it for around 150. Its more like some pawn stars type of shit, but IMO i think it's more affective than buying 20 or 30 bucks worth of gold or silver here and there.
#4 lol surveys for lyfe
#5 THIS HERE is a basic description of what you do if you are not meant for school in most cases. you work your ass off. That's what I'm doing for the time being. Until I can go back to school. Cause fuck this hard work shit. Nobody pays you what you're really worth when you're honest. You are nothing but a proper and savvy business investment.
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Post by: pzangel on June 22, 2014, 07:49:55 pm
Become a webcam girl..... or guy....... You set your own price and get paid to play with yourself. Most webcam sites have a small link at the very bottom of page to join them.
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Post by: buddha on June 24, 2014, 01:37:42 pm
Wow I wrote this a while ago. :)
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Post by: pzangel on June 24, 2014, 01:50:18 pm
Buddha your sexy
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Post by: oppenheimmer on August 04, 2014, 11:52:31 am
also if you go bin picking( dumpster diving) you can run the delightful risk off finding something to black mail some one with a tip for black mailing dont get greedy a low monuthly payment is better then them just paying to have you killed
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Post by: RustyShackleford on September 03, 2014, 01:43:19 am
With the silver thing you have to really know what to look for. Some things are obviously not gold and silver, but when its old tarnished and antiquey looking you need to know your shit. Some people claim to tell silver by the sound it makes, but that must take a lot of practice - you also have to account for the shape of the object etc.
Since you are keeping your change always check quarters and dimes for silver ones. A silver dime is worth like $2, if you work for tips you'll end up going through shit tons of change. Or if you work at a register at all keep an eye out. I wouldn't keep my coins sitting around either, sounds like a good way for the bitch to rob you.
Fuck I really got to start biking again too.
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Post by: RustyShackleford on September 03, 2014, 01:46:14 am
I don't think any of these will put a roof over your head though. In the winter you wouldn't survive. But certain things can be turned into a job without being considered a 'real job'. Its something I've been thinking about quite a bit recently.
Also buy btc and litecoin and wait for the USD to crash.
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Post by: Soso0 on September 10, 2014, 05:11:23 am
If you live near a fast food restaurant or any place with a drive thru make sure to stroll by and pick up any dropped change. While working at Mcshits when ever it wasn't too busy I would quickly pick up all the change left outside the drive thru window with a broom and a scooper. You won't make a fortune off this but you are sure to get enough for bus change or a snack.
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Post by: Calzone on September 10, 2014, 06:06:02 am
No shit. I went through the entire summer without having a job but I always managed to get cash somehow. I used to stop by walmart every few weeks with a big-ass bag of change and leave without about $30-$40.
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Post by: GothicSeraph on September 10, 2014, 02:36:09 pm
How about fat chicks? They need love.
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Post by: silentchemist on September 16, 2014, 11:55:12 am
Buy and sell......its so simple. I'm not talking drugs!! Decide on a product, find good suppliers, buy and resell in smaller amounts else where.
This style of trading has kept me from having a real job for some time now.
There is always something that can be bought cheap of Alibaba and sold elsewhere.
Picking up change......are you having a laugh? A grown man waliking round looking for change, what kind of life is that for yourself?
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Post by: GothicSeraph on September 16, 2014, 12:07:49 pm
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Post by: Idiosyncrasy on September 16, 2014, 10:24:31 pm
From a more existential perspective, how does one define a "real" job? What is a job? Are we fooling others, or are we fooling ourselves?
I described a basic form of retail that can be implemented from home very easily giving huge amounts of spare time. It totally negates the need to seek employment from someone else. It can be as big or small as OP requires.
Title: Re: How to survive without getting a real job.
Post by: Idiosyncrasy on September 17, 2014, 01:54:04 pm
From a more existential perspective, how does one define a "real" job? What is a job? Are we fooling others, or are we fooling ourselves?
I described a basic form of retail that can be implemented from home very easily giving huge amounts of spare time. It totally negates the need to seek employment from someone else. It can be as big or small as OP requires.
Indeed. I meant you described the racket of retail. Like you said, instead of being the lowly cashier, you can be Sam Walton himself. There are a few factors to consider, but just pick your items, set your margins, and keep all the profits instead of sending them back to corporate.
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Post by: silentchemist on September 17, 2014, 05:19:41 pm
Indeed. I meant you described the racket of retail. Like you said, instead of being the lowly cashier, you can be Sam Walton himself. There are a few factors to consider, but just pick your items, set your margins, and keep all the profits instead of sending them back to corporate.
The key is being clever when picking your product. Do not choose something that thousands of other people are selling. I was lucky enough to discover a small range of products on eBay of which there was only 1 UK seller, his prices are extortionately high. I established sellers on Ali baba with great success and marketed my product in a way that looked more professional, was cheaper and of good quality.
I have been successful on 2 occasions now where I have taken the place of the single seller.
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Post by: WS on September 17, 2014, 05:53:51 pm
Buy and sell......its so simple. I'm not talking drugs!! Decide on a product, find good suppliers, buy and resell in smaller amounts else where.
This style of trading has kept me from having a real job for some time now.
There is always something that can be bought cheap of Alibaba and sold elsewhere.
Picking up change......are you having a laugh? A grown man waliking round looking for change, what kind of life is that for yourself?
Very good, you just described retail.
From a more existential perspective, how does one define a "real" job? What is a job? Are we fooling others, or are we fooling ourselves?
a "real" job is one that provides steady income regardless of.. the winds. no need to overcomplicate it
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Post by: Rook on October 12, 2014, 06:16:58 am
-Apply for College -Get Student Loans -Purchase cheap but reliable vehicle (find a good bargain at an auto auction) -Call/Research when your county holds either tax lien auctions, or houses being forclosed and auctioned due to failure to pay tax lein holders or - Check Zillow for cheap properties new you under $10k. (You can find houses doing either for under $10k, but if you find a nice lot, thats something to work with) -Try to do well in school, or atleast pass your classes.. A's arent neccesary - Take CLEP Tests for $80 a piece, each one account for 3-12 accredited College credit hours.. Figure out which ones you want to do to get your associates.. -Save as much money as you can, but you may end up spending it all depending if the house/property needs work. -Take out more loans the next semester - Repeat steps till you own at least 2 properties, 2 vehicles, and have an associates degree. Expected completion time is around 1.5-2 years, but you'll have a degree, a home, transportation + back-up transportation, and a rental property all while other people are graduating and have nothing short of debt. Use the rental property to pay of your student loans.. you might even be able to score or work things out in such a way that you may have more than one.. depending the area, market values, and demand for rentals.
I can verify that this plan, although not incredibly precise, is solid and proven. Sure, you can tinker with it a bit, and I implore you to do so. Make your own path.. but if your looking for a nice template that doesn't require you to do what 80% of other people doing, this may just be for you.
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Post by: crazzyass on October 12, 2014, 05:09:35 pm
-Apply for College -Get Student Loans -Purchase cheap but reliable vehicle (find a good bargain at an auto auction) -Call/Research when your county holds either tax lien auctions, or houses being forclosed and auctioned due to failure to pay tax lein holders or - Check Zillow for cheap properties new you under $10k. (You can find houses doing either for under $10k, but if you find a nice lot, thats something to work with) -Try to do well in school, or atleast pass your classes.. A's arent neccesary - Take CLEP Tests for $80 a piece, each one account for 3-12 accredited College credit hours.. Figure out which ones you want to do to get your associates.. -Save as much money as you can, but you may end up spending it all depending if the house/property needs work. -Take out more loans the next semester - Repeat steps till you own at least 2 properties, 2 vehicles, and have an associates degree. Expected completion time is around 1.5-2 years, but you'll have a degree, a home, transportation + back-up transportation, and a rental property all while other people are graduating and have nothing short of debt. Use the rental property to pay of your student loans.. you might even be able to score or work things out in such a way that you may have more than one.. depending the area, market values, and demand for rentals.
I can verify that this plan, although not incredibly precise, is solid and proven. Sure, you can tinker with it a bit, and I implore you to do so. Make your own path.. but if your looking for a nice template that doesn't require you to do what 80% of other people doing, this may just be for you.
This is almost exactly what I did, and I'm in a strong place these days because of it.
Though I should say that I used BI-money saved up from my high school years to cover most of the cost of college, so I didn't have the debt to worry about.
But using rental income from one property to pay off the mortgage on another is brilliant, and a great way to chart a path to becoming a slum lord/landlord with good passive income. Just don't forget that the more rental properties you own, the more the work you put into them rises.
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Post by: HaitiSpaceAgency on October 12, 2014, 05:58:17 pm
Part time minmum wage will litrally get u more money than thus and you get to meet new people and co-worker s and sometimes make friends with them its p cool to have job also to contribute to the country's wealth by paying income tax.
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Post by: Rook on October 14, 2014, 09:22:28 am
There is nothing wrong with finding a stable job that you enjoy.. if you can indeed find such a thing. It really depends on your location, what kind of competition you have in your area, your general skill set, and your ability to sell yourself. In most situations, its not so much your experience level or skill as it is your ability to market yourself. Physical presence, personality, portraying yourself as smart, humble, and generally likable are key in landing a decent job.
There is nothing wrong with being an employee in the service industry.. our nation thrives and survives on such people, and those experiences instill a greater understanding on the value of ones work and presence in the work world. It more of less helps give you a sense of direction of what you want to do with your life.. I've had my fair share, and its inspired my current path.
Then again, money is money. You can just as easily succeed racking up hours doing a part-time or minimum wage job, if you spend your money wisely and save.. That's just it though, most people cant.. whether for reasons they can control or other they cant.. fuel prices, insurance (medical and auto), lunch each day, tabacco products (if you partake), rent, bills, groceries, etc.. Its often hard to get ahead, let alone.. stay afloat. Its rough out there.. not for everyone, but especially people from small towns with little work to find.