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Ego => Spurious Generalities => Topic started by: Idiosyncrasy on October 20, 2014, 05:02:50 pm

Title: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Idiosyncrasy on October 20, 2014, 05:02:50 pm
Leading the witness?  Would there be as many complaints against the staff if the thread topic were not highlighted and magnified at the top of every page?  For me personally, after every page I visit, I get a gentle reminder that I should go complain about the staff, even if I don't currently have a problem with them.

Is it a self-fulfilling prophecy?  We should experiment.  Display the link to half of the userbase and hide it from the other half.  Run a statistical analysis, maybe a multiple linear regression model with a bell-shaped curve, and let's see what we get.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Slave of the Beast on October 20, 2014, 05:05:14 pm
People didn't start complaining because there was a big sign telling them to do so.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: starvingniglet on October 20, 2014, 05:07:45 pm
Leading the witness?  Would there be as many complaints against the staff if the thread topic were not highlighted and magnified at the top of every page?  For me personally, after every page I visit, I get a gentle reminder that I should go complain about the staff, even if I don't currently have a problem with them.

Is it a self-fulfilling prophecy?  We should experiment.  Display the link to half of the userbase and hide it from the other half.  Run a statistical analysis, maybe a multiple linear regression model with a bell-shaped curve, and let's see what we get.

The real prophet is whoever predicted that thread would wildly backfire.  Nice post btw
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: RisiR on October 20, 2014, 05:12:05 pm
Everybody who still posts in that thread is an idiot and got trolled. It is a farce beyond compare.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Infinityshock on October 20, 2014, 05:17:25 pm
If there weren't valid complaints they wouldnt be made
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Spectre on October 20, 2014, 05:35:51 pm
People didn't start complaining because there was a big sign telling them to do so.

^ yeah this complaints supposedly necessitated that thread so I'd say no however it does highlight how Arnox treats legitimate complaints by users with dismissiveness and ridiculous poorly thought out measures
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: RisiR on October 20, 2014, 05:37:45 pm
He couldn't handle the heat. Kinda ironic considering he's a faggot for dragons.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: DaGuru on October 20, 2014, 06:08:37 pm


^ yeah this complaints supposedly necessitated that thread so I'd say no however it does highlight how Arnox treats legitimate complaints by users with dismissiveness and ridiculous poorly thought out measures

^^^^Mostly this!!! ^^^^

What's funny, is how Arnox himself brings so much attention to the thread....then cries and moans because people are actually using it.


Also, the irony doesn't escape me.....but considering THIS very thread we are on right now.....if a regular user had created it, there is a good chance they would have been infracted because of Arnox's current attitude, along with NIMFing the thread because "it wasn't posted in the proper section/thread". :roll:
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Slave of the Beast on October 20, 2014, 08:06:43 pm
Soon the Staff Complaint thread will, in terms of posts, become the most popular thread on the site barring "The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition".

Looks like Arnox and Dr Frankenstein now have something in common.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Arnox on October 21, 2014, 10:21:52 pm
Actually, I think it's served its sole purpose quite well no matter how many posts go into it.

People kept thinking it was about suppressing complaints and hate when it was really just made to made things more efficient and less repetitive and annoying. In that regard, it's done an amazing job.

INB4 NO IT HASN'T!!!
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Lanny on October 21, 2014, 10:28:06 pm
I don't know dude, maybe you're not keeping up to date with it but that thread is pretty damn repetitive and annoying
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Lanny on October 21, 2014, 10:28:42 pm
P.S. inafter NO IT HASN'T!!!
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: mashleshmash on October 21, 2014, 10:29:45 pm
God I don't even understand the OP I just felt lik emaking a ppost fucfk
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Lanny on October 21, 2014, 10:30:51 pm
4:30 PST, how high are you right now mash?
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Arnox on October 21, 2014, 10:31:12 pm
I don't know dude, maybe you're not keeping up to date with it but that thread is pretty damn repetitive and annoying

You're talking about the actual posts made in it. Those we can't and won't do anything about. To do so would be to actually start suppressing complaints and hate. However, ask yourself this. What would you rather see? One thread being bumped a lot or a whole bunch of the same threads created over and over again with the same drama and nonsense in them?
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Lanny on October 21, 2014, 10:38:20 pm
I mean a deluge of staff complaint threads is kinda annoying, to be sure, but merging everything into one thread really does look like you're suppressing people trying to complain. There's a lot of shit posts in that thread that any sane person would ignore. If I actually had a complaint I wanted to make public I have no faith that posting it in that thread will get it read by anyone I want it to be read by. I don't really care since I'm not interested in making staff callout threads, but it's not what I would do if it was up to me.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: starvingniglet on October 21, 2014, 10:41:21 pm
I mean a deluge of staff complaint threads is kinda annoying, to be sure, but merging everything into one thread really does look like you're suppressing people trying to complain. There's a lot of shit posts in that thread that any sane person would ignore. If I actually had a complaint I wanted to make public I have no faith that posting it in that thread will get it read by anyone I want it to be read by. I don't really care since I'm not interested in making staff callout threads, but it's not what I would do if it was up to me.

If it really was about 'efficiency' and 'making things less annoying', they wouldn't be banning people for posting 'staff hate outside the thread'.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Arnox on October 21, 2014, 10:41:56 pm
I mean a deluge of staff complaint threads is kinda annoying, to be sure, but merging everything into one thread really does look like you're suppressing people trying to complain. There's a lot of shit posts in that thread that any sane person would ignore. If I actually had a complaint I wanted to make public I have no faith that posting it in that thread will get it read by anyone I want it to be read by. I don't really care since I'm not interested in making staff callout threads, but it's not what I would do if it was up to me.

You know, you don't need to make a public post. You can just (and in fact, probably should) just PM me whatever complaints with the staff you have.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: mashleshmash on October 21, 2014, 10:42:02 pm
the staff complaint threacd is a piceo f hist
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: starvingniglet on October 21, 2014, 10:44:51 pm
You know, you don't need to make a public post. You can just (and in fact, probably should) just PM me whatever complaints with the staff you have.

Are we going to be banned if we dont?


This place is fucked.  Its like this:  arnox and his staff want one sort of forum, and the forum residents want another.  No matter how much we raise our voices and agitate, he is still going to do things his way, no matter what. 

I know its arnox's website and all, but it is analogous to a restaurant that cooks all the owners favorite dishes, while the dining room slowly gets emptier and emptier every week because no one likes the food being served.  The owner thinks 'well, I love the food here, it must be that everyone else just has bad taste in cuisine' and then adds another one of his favorite dishes to the menu.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: mashleshmash on October 21, 2014, 10:46:07 pm
What do you mean by leading the witness?  explain please
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Arnox on October 21, 2014, 10:47:01 pm
If it really was about 'efficiency' and 'making things less annoying', they wouldn't be banning people for posting 'staff hate outside the thread'.

They are not banned outright. They are warned first, then banned as it's a light offense. Furthermore, why shouldn't people be infracted for willfully disobeying what the staff tells them to do in general? Are you telling me we shouldn't be infracting people for disobeying the rules?

And even further, WHY do you guys need to make a whole bunch of individual complaint threads? What's the purpose other than to get attention? Heck, even that purpose is made redundant too as you can just get attention by bumping the thread with your complaints.

Really, the only thing that's changed is that the complaints are more streamlined.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: mashleshmash on October 21, 2014, 10:48:17 pm
real:  keep yur head up arnox  niggas is tricky
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: starvingniglet on October 21, 2014, 10:51:27 pm
And even further, WHY do you guys need to make a whole bunch of individual complaint threads? What's the purpose other than to get attention?

because when someone complains, what do they want?  attention to their complaint. 
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: mashleshmash on October 21, 2014, 10:53:13 pm
And even further, WHY do you guys need to make a whole bunch of individual complaint threads? What's the purpose other than to get attention?

because when someone complains, what do they want?  attention to their complaint.

I agree with that comment by arnox

Why the need for individual complaint threads


at the same why do we need a complex complaint thread
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Lanny on October 21, 2014, 10:53:41 pm
You know, you don't need to make a public post. You can just (and in fact, probably should) just PM me whatever complaints with the staff you have.

I agree which is why I said I don't really care, but regardless of whether or not making a callout thread is a great idea, rolling them all together into a giant incoherent cesspool of a megathread does limit people's ability to raise complaints publicly.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: -SpectraL on October 21, 2014, 10:56:52 pm

Don't actually resolve the complaints. Just perpetuate them in eternity by corralling them all through abuse of authority and harassment of valid content. Makes perfect sense!! Give this man a cigar!!
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: DaGuru on October 22, 2014, 12:21:38 am
If I actually had a complaint I wanted to make public I have no faith that posting it in that thread will get it read by anyone I want it to be read by.

That actually IS the whole point and the purposeful strategy behind Arnox's tactics of having just one complaint thread.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Arnox on October 22, 2014, 12:57:59 am
I agree which is why I said I don't really care, but regardless of whether or not making a callout thread is a great idea, rolling them all together into a giant incoherent cesspool of a megathread does limit people's ability to raise complaints publicly.

I know exactly what you mean and it is a very valid concern. Regardless, I will make sure that I at least read and consider every complaint made in that thread so nothing gets left out. Also keep in mind too that this same thing (crowding out valid complaints with bad ones) could also happen with a lot of complaint threads. So if anything, I would actually say it makes it easier for one to stand out since all the staff has to do now is check the thread instead of having to sift through numerous individual threads and their replies as well.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: RisiR on October 22, 2014, 11:33:20 am
Fuck you, Arnox.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: starvingniglet on October 22, 2014, 12:16:03 pm
Fuck you, Arnox.


this^^^^.  I see myself being banned soon, the first time I will ever have been banned from a website, ever in my whole goddamn life.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: RisiR on October 22, 2014, 12:24:16 pm
I ain't that bad.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: RisiR on October 22, 2014, 01:14:26 pm
It ain't that bad.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: RisiR on October 22, 2014, 01:15:28 pm
Fuck that, I wanted to edit my post.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: starvingniglet on October 22, 2014, 01:30:02 pm
It ain't that bad.

its bad enough to piss me right the fuck off, and I have a long fuse.  The selective moving and deleting of threads and the uneven, farcical moderating here are wearing really thin.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: RisiR on October 22, 2014, 01:37:12 pm
Yea, I meant getting banned from this shithole. HTS Noob said he's making a new site, maybe it won't have a Monty-Pythonesque concentration camp sketch atmosphere.

Though, that sounds pretty cool now that I think of it. Just sad that the staff doesn't get the joke.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Arnox on October 22, 2014, 02:56:03 pm
this^^^^.  I see myself being banned soon

Why don't you stop talking about it and just get it done already?
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: starvingniglet on October 22, 2014, 02:58:23 pm
this^^^^.  I see myself being banned soon

Why don't you stop talking about it and just get it done already?

its an organic process.....it has to 'flow', and can't be rushed....patience, my dragonfag friend.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: RisiR on October 22, 2014, 03:01:27 pm
this^^^^.  I see myself being banned soon

Why don't you stop talking about it and just get it done already?
Why don't you make him get banned you fuc.... oh, you already do. Ok.

Fuck you.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Arnox on October 22, 2014, 03:13:53 pm
its an organic process.....it has to 'flow', and can't be rushed....patience, my dragonfag friend.

It better "flow" fast or else I will condemn you as one who doesn't deliver in this thread.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: RisiR on October 22, 2014, 03:23:24 pm
its an organic process.....it has to 'flow', and can't be rushed....patience, my dragonfag friend.

It better "flow" fast or else I will condemn you as one who doesn't deliver in this thread.
Your website will be a wasteland in two weeks you fucking idiot. Wake up if you still give a shit.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: starvingniglet on October 22, 2014, 03:28:06 pm
It better "flow" fast or else I will condemn you as one who doesn't deliver in this thread.

Is that supposed to make me salivate like pavlov's dogs or something?  Condemn away.  I thrive on conflict.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: starvingniglet on October 22, 2014, 03:29:47 pm
its an organic process.....it has to 'flow', and can't be rushed....patience, my dragonfag friend.

It better "flow" fast or else I will condemn you as one who doesn't deliver in this thread.
Your website will be a wasteland in two weeks you fucking idiot. Wake up if you still give a shit.

count blah and midnight sun have left, unstable doesnt come here anymore, others too....I wonder what they would say is the reason they left?
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: RisiR on October 22, 2014, 03:36:28 pm
its an organic process.....it has to 'flow', and can't be rushed....patience, my dragonfag friend.

It better "flow" fast or else I will condemn you as one who doesn't deliver in this thread.
Your website will be a wasteland in two weeks you fucking idiot. Wake up if you still give a shit.

count blah and midnight sun have left, unstable doesnt come here anymore, others too....I wonder what they would say is the reason they left?
Lack of unfaggotry.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Infinityshock on October 22, 2014, 03:37:34 pm
Fuck you, Arnox.


this^^^^.  I see myself being banned soon, the first time I will ever have been banned from a website, ever in my whole goddamn life.

Amateur

Ive been permabanned from so many sites ive lost count
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Infinityshock on October 22, 2014, 03:38:01 pm
It ain't that bad.

its bad enough to piss me right the fuck off, and I have a long fuse.  The selective moving and deleting of threads and the uneven, farcical moderating here are wearing really thin.

That sounds familiar

Youd think theyd get the hint by now
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: Infinityshock on October 22, 2014, 03:38:36 pm
this^^^^.  I see myself being banned soon

Why don't you stop talking about it and just get it done already?

How, pray tell, can this get done?

You already denied by request for a permaban
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: DaGuru on October 22, 2014, 03:51:22 pm
unstable doesnt come here anymore

Unstable still posts here under nick of Nasheeds and Lesbians. Every other point you made is valid however.
Title: Re: Is the staff complaint thread...
Post by: starvingniglet on October 22, 2014, 03:53:10 pm
unstable doesnt come here anymore

Unstable still posts here under nick of Nasheeds and Lesbians. Every other point you made is valid however.

yeah, I don't think he will post much if at all.  Not like he used to.