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Re: I was perma banned from zoklet after all the work I put into it
« Reply #225 on: September 05, 2014, 05:57:05 pm »

Was speaking about having some dignity and responsibility - really didn't think you get it.
Thanks for confirming.

And Infrared hasn't shown any of those traits you suddenly speak so highly of, as I said above.....Infra has his tongue firmly implanted up your ass, and no matter how many rules he breaks you looks the other way.

Most importantly, hearing you spew the words "dignity" and "responsibility" with any sense of seriousness is an absolute satirical farce. As so many people keep saying, you've haven't cared about any of those traits all the time you were an admin, and now suddenly you wax on poetically about all that in regards to Mark. Why do you suddenly care so much in the very last hours, when for so long you haven't tried to maintain even a modicum of dignity or responsibility at that website when it really mattered?

Wanna discuss some of the finite examples/questions I listed above, and prove your points refuting my statement? Of course you don't, because in typical Mizled style you'll just spew some vague one-liner making light of whatever situation, all the while completely avoiding the actual topics and problems that people bring to you.

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Re: I was perma banned from zoklet after all the work I put into it
« Reply #226 on: September 05, 2014, 06:06:11 pm »

Was speaking about having some dignity and responsibility - really didn't think you get it.
Thanks for confirming.

And Infrared hasn't shown any of those traits you suddenly speak so highly of, as I said above.....Infra has his tongue firmly implanted up your ass, and no matter how many rules he breaks you looks the other way.

Most importantly, hearing you spew the words "dignity" and "responsibility" with any sense of seriousness is an absolute satirical farce. As so many people keep saying, you've haven't cared about any of those traits all the time you were an admin, and now suddenly you wax on poetically about all that in regards to Mark. Why do you suddenly care so much in the very last hours, when for so long you haven't tried to maintain even a modicum of dignity or responsibility at that website when it really mattered?

Wanna discuss some of the finite examples/questions I listed above, and prove your points refuting my statement? Of course you don't, because in typical Mizled style you'll just spew some vague one-liner making light of whatever situation, all the while completely avoiding the actual topics and problems that people bring to you.
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Infrared is a power hungry ass kissing faggot. The account I was using for months had not a single infraction and as soon h as he was modded hit me with a spam bot infraction for no reason. Unwyred reversed it and then I received like eight more infractions immediately afterward for no reason. He is such a weak person lol. It's cool though I did some fucked up shit to him to get back kinda unproportionate but whatever he's a fag.

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Re: I was perma banned from zoklet after all the work I put into it
« Reply #227 on: September 05, 2014, 09:38:39 pm »


To be accurate and give whatever credit is due, mizled did try and go up against the fuckups on the staff during the PI fiasco and they came down on her like a ton of bricks. At that point, I would have simply informed them I'm the forum admin and that if they didn't like it to go fuck themselves. If they removed me for standing my ground, at least I'd know I did everything I could. But she decided her CrackerJack was much more important than standing up for the community, which is exactly where I have a problem with her.

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Re: I was perma banned from zoklet after all the work I put into it
« Reply #228 on: September 05, 2014, 10:06:54 pm »

Was speaking about having some dignity and responsibility - really didn't think you get it.
Thanks for confirming.

And Infrared hasn't shown any of those traits you suddenly speak so highly of, as I said above.....Infra has his tongue firmly implanted up your ass, and no matter how many rules he breaks you looks the other way.

Most importantly, hearing you spew the words "dignity" and "responsibility" with any sense of seriousness is an absolute satirical farce. As so many people keep saying, you've haven't cared about any of those traits all the time you were an admin, and now suddenly you wax on poetically about all that in regards to Mark. Why do you suddenly care so much in the very last hours, when for so long you haven't tried to maintain even a modicum of dignity or responsibility at that website when it really mattered?

Wanna discuss some of the finite examples/questions I listed above, and prove your points refuting my statement? Of course you don't, because in typical Mizled style you'll just spew some vague one-liner making light of whatever situation, all the while completely avoiding the actual topics and problems that people bring to you.
All you ever bring is rants.
I seldom answer your threads for the same reason I avoided going to visit grandpa once he  started going 'soft in the head' - it won't make any difference. You'll just ramble and go off on a tangent and convince yourself that it's relevant. But it's not. It's just a monotonous droning babble that doesn't bear responding to. Half baked nonsense that only matters to yourself and whichever temporary sycophants that may have attached themselves to various parts of your lower anatomy (this is part where zok jr says "huh? oh, yeah, she means 'me'").
Infrared is just helping keep the spam out till we 404. If he's pissed you off, suck it up. It doesn't really matter. All sales final, everything must go. Note to staff, please keep the rabble from defecating in the aisles. Other than that, just keep it dignified. Speaking of which...
There, now I've dignified your rant with a response; feel better?
As far as responsibility, that's irrelevant in context of this discussion, you were never offered any and nothing was ever expected of you, not so with the moderators who had a meltdown at zoks decision.
You know - I actually never banned you, your diatribes never really bothered me, I found your sheer tirelessness in sefl righteous demagogy irrelevant but harmless, but you used to really piss off some of the mods.  So when they banned you out of sheer unbridled butthurt, I intervened at first, then finally just I let it be.
My responsibility was to the staff and to zok, not to your ego. So if your remonstrations of indignation failed to coincide with the staffs, oh ell oh ell, so it goes.
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Re: I was perma banned from zoklet after all the work I put into it
« Reply #229 on: September 05, 2014, 10:11:17 pm »


To be accurate and give whatever credit is due, mizled did try and go up against the fuckups on the staff during the PI fiasco and they came down on her like a ton of bricks. At that point, I would have simply informed them I'm the forum admin and that if they didn't like it to go fuck themselves. If they removed me for standing my ground, at least I'd know I did everything I could. But she decided her CrackerJack was much more important than standing up for the community, which is exactly where I have a problem with her.
We've discussed this before, I respect your position on this, but no one ever accomplished anything by leaving. There is no CrackerJack prize involved. We differ on this, as on many things, and yes - I could have done more, but it really wouldn't have made any difference. (No Todd Rundgren reference intended)
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« Reply #230 on: September 05, 2014, 10:31:45 pm »

Was speaking about having some dignity and responsibility - really didn't think you get it.
Thanks for confirming.

And Infrared hasn't shown any of those traits you suddenly speak so highly of, as I said above.....Infra has his tongue firmly implanted up your ass, and no matter how many rules he breaks you looks the other way.

Most importantly, hearing you spew the words "dignity" and "responsibility" with any sense of seriousness is an absolute satirical farce. As so many people keep saying, you've haven't cared about any of those traits all the time you were an admin, and now suddenly you wax on poetically about all that in regards to Mark. Why do you suddenly care so much in the very last hours, when for so long you haven't tried to maintain even a modicum of dignity or responsibility at that website when it really mattered?

Wanna discuss some of the finite examples/questions I listed above, and prove your points refuting my statement? Of course you don't, because in typical Mizled style you'll just spew some vague one-liner making light of whatever situation, all the while completely avoiding the actual topics and problems that people bring to you.
All you ever bring is rants.
I seldom answer your threads for the same reason I avoided going to visit grandpa once he  started going 'soft in the head' - it won't make any difference. You'll just ramble and go off on a tangent and convince yourself that it's relevant. But it's not. It's just a monotonous droning babble that doesn't bear responding to. Half baked nonsense that only matters to yourself and whichever temporary sycophants that may have attached themselves to various parts of your lower anatomy (this is part where zok jr says "huh? oh, yeah, she means 'me'").
Infrared is just helping keep the spam out till we 404. If he's pissed you off, suck it up. It doesn't really matter. All sales final, everything must go. Note to staff, please keep the rabble from defecating in the aisles. Other than that, just keep it dignified. Speaking of which...
There, now I've dignified your rant with a response; feel better?
As far as responsibility, that's irrelevant in context of this discussion, you were never offered any and nothing was ever expected of you, not so with the moderators who had a meltdown at zoks decision.
You know - I actually never banned you, your diatribes never really bothered me, I found your sheer tirelessness in sefl righteous demagogy irrelevant but harmless, but you used to really piss off some of the mods.  So when they banned you out of sheer unbridled butthurt, I intervened at first, then finally just I let it be.
My responsibility was to the staff and to zok, not to your ego. So if your remonstrations of indignation failed to coincide with the staffs, oh ell oh ell, so it goes.
Sorry I didn't kiss your ass enough to get my name put on the "do not ban for no reason" list. Shoot if I spent just a few hours a day kissing your ass I could've been put on the "make him a moderator even though hes barely part of the community but who cares he kissed up to me" list.

You are a dumb old bitch and everyone hates you. Delete you account here and go back to the site that you killed with your bullshit.

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Re: I was perma banned from zoklet after all the work I put into it
« Reply #231 on: September 05, 2014, 11:26:30 pm »

Was speaking about having some dignity and responsibility - really didn't think you get it.
Thanks for confirming.



I intervened at first, then finally just I let it be.
My responsibility was to the staff and to zok, not to your ego.

Sure... ignore and duck and dive on the valid points he brings up in favor of meaningless and empty insults about how old he might be. That's why zoklet failed in the first place, with you at the helm even. You're so busy ducking and diving that in the end that's all you can do.

Your responsibility was to zok and the staff? Really? Bullshit. Your primary duty and responsibility was the community. That's why your usertitle was FORUM ADMIN, not STAFF/ZOK ADMIN. If you knew you were powerless to do what was best for the communities best interests and welfare, you should have quit and let someone who had the cajones to do it properly do your job for you. Zok and the staff are big boys... they never need you to hold their hands, but the community DID need you, and you failed them... deliberately. No big deal, you say? Nothing on the Internet really matters anyways, you say? Worked up about nothing, you say? How about all the cool members who had their posts harassed, their accounts fucked with, their voices shat on... you know all the ones who YOU let down and all left? Were they just as trivial to you? Apparently.

If you want to try dignity, at least don't lie and shift blame and minimize things and try and rewrite the story just to try and justify your own erroneous actions. Dignity involves truth and consideration and honesty, not your double-talk and excuses.
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Re: I was perma banned from zoklet after all the work I put into it
« Reply #232 on: September 06, 2014, 02:15:10 am »

Was speaking about having some dignity and responsibility - really didn't think you get it.
Thanks for confirming.

And Infrared hasn't shown any of those traits you suddenly speak so highly of, as I said above.....Infra has his tongue firmly implanted up your ass, and no matter how many rules he breaks you looks the other way.

Most importantly, hearing you spew the words "dignity" and "responsibility" with any sense of seriousness is an absolute satirical farce. As so many people keep saying, you've haven't cared about any of those traits all the time you were an admin, and now suddenly you wax on poetically about all that in regards to Mark. Why do you suddenly care so much in the very last hours, when for so long you haven't tried to maintain even a modicum of dignity or responsibility at that website when it really mattered?

Wanna discuss some of the finite examples/questions I listed above, and prove your points refuting my statement? Of course you don't, because in typical Mizled style you'll just spew some vague one-liner making light of whatever situation, all the while completely avoiding the actual topics and problems that people bring to you.
All you ever bring is rants.
I seldom answer your threads for the same reason I avoided going to visit grandpa once he  started going 'soft in the head' - it won't make any difference. You'll just ramble and go off on a tangent and convince yourself that it's relevant. But it's not. It's just a monotonous droning babble that doesn't bear responding to. Half baked nonsense that only matters to yourself and whichever temporary sycophants that may have attached themselves to various parts of your lower anatomy (this is part where zok jr says "huh? oh, yeah, she means 'me'").
Infrared is just helping keep the spam out till we 404. If he's pissed you off, suck it up. It doesn't really matter. All sales final, everything must go. Note to staff, please keep the rabble from defecating in the aisles. Other than that, just keep it dignified. Speaking of which...
There, now I've dignified your rant with a response; feel better?
As far as responsibility, that's irrelevant in context of this discussion, you were never offered any and nothing was ever expected of you, not so with the moderators who had a meltdown at zoks decision.
You know - I actually never banned you, your diatribes never really bothered me, I found your sheer tirelessness in sefl righteous demagogy irrelevant but harmless, but you used to really piss off some of the mods.  So when they banned you out of sheer unbridled butthurt, I intervened at first, then finally just I let it be.
My responsibility was to the staff and to zok, not to your ego. So if your remonstrations of indignation failed to coincide with the staffs, oh ell oh ell, so it goes.
Sorry I didn't kiss your ass enough to get my name put on the "do not ban for no reason" list. Shoot if I spent just a few hours a day kissing your ass I could've been put on the "make him a moderator even though hes barely part of the community but who cares he kissed up to me" list.

You are a dumb old bitch and everyone hates you. Delete you account here and go back to the site that you killed with your bullshit.

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Re: I was perma banned from zoklet after all the work I put into it
« Reply #233 on: September 06, 2014, 02:36:41 am »

All you ever bring is rants.
I seldom answer your threads for the same reason I avoided going to visit grandpa once he  started going 'soft in the head' - it won't make any difference. You'll just ramble and go off on a tangent and convince yourself that it's relevant. But it's not. It's just a monotonous droning babble that doesn't bear responding to. Half baked nonsense that only matters to yourself and whichever temporary sycophants that may have attached themselves to various parts of your lower anatomy (this is part where zok jr says "huh? oh, yeah, she means 'me'").
Infrared is just helping keep the spam out till we 404. If he's pissed you off, suck it up. It doesn't really matter. All sales final, everything must go. Note to staff, please keep the rabble from defecating in the aisles. Other than that, just keep it dignified. Speaking of which...
There, now I've dignified your rant with a response; feel better?
As far as responsibility, that's irrelevant in context of this discussion, you were never offered any and nothing was ever expected of you, not so with the moderators who had a meltdown at zoks decision.
You know - I actually never banned you, your diatribes never really bothered me, I found your sheer tirelessness in sefl righteous demagogy irrelevant but harmless, but you used to really piss off some of the mods.  So when they banned you out of sheer unbridled butthurt, I intervened at first, then finally just I let it be.
My responsibility was to the staff and to zok, not to your ego. So if your remonstrations of indignation failed to coincide with the staffs, oh ell oh ell, so it goes.

LOL...just listen to yourself and your feeble "response" about any of this. DaGuru, DaGuru, Daguru. Just like Zok, just like your predecessors, you use me and my posting habits as an excuse for not discussing a damn thing. "oh, but your posts are too long". "Oh but you insult us". "Oh, but your questions and verbiage isn't polite enough".

As Spectral already said better than I could....its very interesting how you claim you are there for the staff/Zok, and not to make the community better. Basically cover THEIR ass, and to hell with everyone else and their website experience.

So clearly, you refuse to address your cherry-picking ideologies in regard to "serious" modding....because you can't legitimately defend toxic mods like 5.56 that has been chasing off great posters for literally years, all the while you turn Mark into Public Enemy #1 over a couple of hours of fun. Its obvious to everyone at this point you are just a snivelling hypocrite, filled with spin and bullshit.

At this point, I'll ask you one last question....

Exactly WHEN is Zok going to finally pull the plug? Surely you know THAT answer, don't you? Or is he keeping the staff totally in the dark....in typical Zok's selfish power-hungry fashion, he is keeping even you in the dark in regards to that answer? And you are still an obedient little lackey lapdog, willing to eat shit and put your own personal integrity aside just to gain his respect and nobody else's.

Funny how "Zoklet time" always works. They say I'll be back in a couple hours, weeks go by. They say they'll get right on it, sometimes months go by before they address anything, if they address it at all. So when Zok says, "I'm gonna shut it down in a couple of days", and here we are 5 days later....exactly what DOES any of that mean? More laziness and procrastination, and he'll get to it sometime around Halloween or Thanksgiving? Or did his health have another hiccup, and despite the fact he can LIVE in IRC, he isn't physically able to move his mouse over to the other window and take care of business....just like he has done (or is it NOT done) all of these years?

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Re: I was perma banned from zoklet after all the work I put into it
« Reply #234 on: September 06, 2014, 08:24:17 am »

Was speaking about having some dignity and responsibility - really didn't think you get it.
Thanks for confirming.



I intervened at first, then finally just I let it be.
My responsibility was to the staff and to zok, not to your ego.

Sure... ignore and duck and dive on the valid points he brings up in favor of meaningless and empty insults about how old he might be. That's why zoklet failed in the first place, with you at the helm even. You're so busy ducking and diving that in the end that's all you can do.

Your responsibility was to zok and the staff? Really? Bullshit. Your primary duty and responsibility was the community. That's why your usertitle was FORUM ADMIN, not STAFF/ZOK ADMIN. If you knew you were powerless to do what was best for the communities best interests and welfare, you should have quit and let someone who had the cajones to do it properly do your job for you. Zok and the staff are big boys... they never need you to hold their hands, but the community DID need you, and you failed them... deliberately. No big deal, you say? Nothing on the Internet really matters anyways, you say? Worked up about nothing, you say? How about all the cool members who had their posts harassed, their accounts fucked with, their voices shat on... you know all the ones who YOU let down and all left? Were they just as trivial to you? Apparently.

If you want to try dignity, at least don't lie and shift blame and minimize things and try and rewrite the story just to try and justify your own erroneous actions. Dignity involves truth and consideration and honesty, not your double-talk and excuses.
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« Reply #235 on: September 06, 2014, 08:29:09 am »
I'm just gonna say this, guys.

I don't know what happened at all at Zoklet but... Being a good admin can be MUCH harder than you think.


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« Reply #236 on: September 06, 2014, 11:50:06 am »
I'm just gonna say this, guys.

I don't know what happened at all at Zoklet but... Being a good admin can be MUCH harder than you think.

I agree with you, but being good and being deliberately destructive are worlds apart, though. This admin encouraged and supported the spamming of the boards, the release of member personal information, the illegitimate bans and perma-bans of decent contributors who broke no rules, the harassment of valid content... even sold out one of his contributing members to the FBI (special agent Andre Cicero). He also appointed countless power abusers and let the site deteriorate to the point of going from hundreds of great members to under 20 members at the end. A truly despicable Administrator in every respect. Aside from all that, he was a decent guy, but all that senseless bullshit just made me see red. Jeff Hunter basically handed him a fantastic community on a silver platter and all he could do was shit all over it for his own personal gain and personal glory. That's why his webspace is finished right now... because of him and his goon squad of anti-Totse traitors, such as psychomanthis, panthraz, mizled, LavaRed, 5.56, p6867, waterbottle and Unwyred. Hopefully, you won't fall for their patented bullshit and give them any kind of authority here whatsoever, because they would sink you and this community as well without a moment's hesitation.

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« Reply #237 on: September 06, 2014, 02:51:49 pm »
Are the DaGuru/Spectral vs zoklet staff contests going to stop in the next few weeks after zoklet closes? What will happen then?

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« Reply #238 on: September 06, 2014, 02:59:55 pm »
Are the DaGuru/Spectral vs zoklet staff contests going to stop in the next few weeks after zoklet closes? What will happen then?

I would prefer if things stayed mainly in the bitching forum. Of course those shitbirds are going to get ragged on here after Zoklet closes. They earned their negative rep the whole way, and now they have to live with it unfortunately.

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« Reply #239 on: September 07, 2014, 06:54:20 pm »
Spectral, did you happen to catch the M&A leak when it was posted?


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