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Music Producers?
« on: November 16, 2014, 08:45:45 pm »
Anyone else around here produce any music? I've gotten into it over the last few years, starting with Propellerhead's Reason and now onto Ableton. The switch was weird and I still know how to create some patches faster in Reason, but Ableton definitely has more you can do with it. I've been releasin' some tracks on Ableton now, but had a whole "EP" released with only Reason (and some audacity)

Recording is way easier in Ableton too, given the warping feature. So I've been recording various instruments for my music like my bass guitar, didgeridoo, banjo, and vocal effects. You guys make anything? I know there's some punk rockers and grungy types on here.

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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2014, 06:59:19 am »
Ages ago I made some really atrocious sample based kinda bro-stepish stuff in fruityloops and embarrassingly it's the only thing on my soundcloud. It will not be linked for everyone's good. Since then I've taken a couple stabs at writing software additive synthesizers and generative music. I approached it mostly as a technical project though, so the output isn't particularly compelling but the code that generated it was pretty fun to write and well put together, if I get to make that assessment. The one I did kinda like was this reverb demo thing I did that used a rolling average from an RNG and a very high alpha. It ended up sounding like a Sunn O))) chord that just went on forever slowly rising and falling

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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2014, 03:33:38 pm »
You wrote code to create your own devices from scratch?
What OS are you on, and how did you do that?

I guess I prefer the graphic interface of things, but i'm curious.

Link anyways, not like my shit is that good either.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2014, 04:39:07 pm »
You wrote code to create your own devices from scratch?
What OS are you on, and how did you do that?

I guess I prefer the graphic interface of things, but i'm curious.

Yeah, for me it seemed simpler to write it myself because I already knew how to push bytes around in memory whereas there's a lot to learn with any given DAW. Of course when things get more complicated that changes because like the guys who wrote ableton obviously know a lot more than me, the complexity of the software becomes greater than the learning overhead.

As for platform, it was in theory OS independent. The original I wrote was in Python and I tested it on the three major OSs, but later I wanted a bit more performance and concurrency out of it so I rewrote it in Go and only ever tested it on OSX. It used portaudio in both cases so really all it has to do is generate PCM internally. I suspect there might be some endianness issues on some systems but nothing that can't be fixed. The mechanics of the thing are actually pretty simple, you have generators and modifiers. Generators produce a signal (a stream of numbers between -1 and 1 (usually) at the sample rate) and modifiers that take a signal as an input and return a signal as an output. So like adjusting volume is just a matter multiplying each number in the stream by a constant in a modifier, but they can have memory too so things like normalization are possible.

The only part that's kind of icky is guessing buffer sizes. If you go too high or too low your output gets choppy (because it takes too long for one buffer to work its way through all the modifiers, or too much time is spent passing these small buffers around respectively) and the only way I figured out to do it was to just fiddle with the numbers until I started getting steady audio.

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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2014, 05:10:51 pm »
Makes sense, people use what they know, and sometimes I wish I could adjust the code on a synth because I know just where I want a property to be. Also makes me wish I continued to learn Python, cuz I've definitely had that basic understanding. I just find using someone else's program easier Especially since I'd end up making distorted messes.

How about a buffer knob?  ;D
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2014, 06:24:54 pm »
I am more of a sound engineer and also guitarist/bass player
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 06:47:41 pm »
someone post some of their music or something
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2014, 08:01:30 pm »
Yeah, I made a chill out song, inspired by Earth a while back.

http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/58738120/file.html

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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2014, 08:10:34 pm »
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2014, 08:22:33 pm »
What did schplew and bling do on the latest release?

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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2014, 08:24:09 pm »
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2014, 08:25:14 pm »
Yeah, I made a chill out song, inspired by Earth a while back.

http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/58738120/file.html

Is it just me or does this sound like an alt take of Angle off of Boris' latest?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwsaFvp0iOs

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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2014, 08:25:47 pm »
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2014, 08:48:41 pm »
Yeah, I made a chill out song, inspired by Earth a while back.

http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/58738120/file.html

Is it just me or does this sound like an alt take of Angle off of Boris' latest?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwsaFvp0iOs

I can hear some similarities at the start, but it's still quite different, I think. Didn't know it, anyways.

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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2014, 08:59:27 pm »
Yeah, it diverges as the song goes on but the riff and drumming just struck me as similar. I didn't mean to imply it was a rip off or anything. I'm a big Boris fan so I'd take it as a complement :p