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Offline RustyShackleford

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Networking with people
« on: November 10, 2014, 12:46:06 am »
How do? I'm a very blunt and down to business person. Obviously I just want to know if they can help me find a job, but people also like a bit of foreplay. Should I ask right away, should I see if  they offer help, should I do it under the guise of asking them to critique my resume, etc. Lets assume they can help connect me with the right people, but can't directly help me, so I don't want to be going off about my skills and what I can give them etc. These are mostly family friends who I haven't spoken to in years or have only briefly talked to.

I'm shit at this and don't want to blow it and have them think I'm not sincere.

Right now I'm thinking of just saying something like 'hey this is what I'm doing/where I'm at do you have any advice...' but this ignores the aspect of warming them up.
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Re: Networking with people
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2014, 06:02:33 am »
I used to do that with big dreams of being connected to high up within 5 mins.

But everybody I spoke to was a retard in suit.

Total dreamers who thought if they stood around Success would come to them
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Re: Networking with people
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2014, 05:53:27 pm »
Just be friends with them first man. If they're buying what you're selling it'll come to the surface eventually.

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Re: Networking with people
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2014, 06:15:57 pm »
Lie as much as possible

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Re: Networking with people
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2014, 05:36:13 pm »
I wish I could help out, but Im lost here myself. Tried to do it once or twice at meetups, but I may be just too socially awkward at the moment to carry out these maneuvers. I've decided that the best way to learn was to learn to communicate so I'm making a conscious effort to communicate with people. I do know, however, that just reading about this, wont solve this. It seems practice is the only answer.

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Re: Networking with people
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2014, 11:00:47 pm »
Just be friends with them first man. If they're buying what you're selling it'll come to the surface eventually.
That is a great point, but I don't think it universally applies. Lets be real in the business world not everybody is friends, maybe the best salespeople can make it seem that way, but I don't think it would work or even be appropriate to try to become friends with a business contact before doing business. If you get along and the business goes well then you may develop a relationship that is beyond strictly business and this has no doubt played a role in peoples and businesses success.

Also the people I am talking about contacting are mainly family friends of my parents or parents of my friends. Basically people who can and would be willing to help but that I won't likely become friends with. It would be bizarre to try and be friends with them before asking for help, simultaneously it would be rude to ask for help without being friendly first. It is trying to walk that line.

Being that they are family friends many have told me to contact them, but then I waited on it and time happens and while the offer still stands it has to be approached right. I'm not normally too autistic about this kind of thing, but its got me in a bind.

I'm thinking something like: 'Hey its rusty, remember me from xyz? I am studying abc and hoping to get a job doing asdf.' would be appropriate.
Basically I don't want to sound like a nigger, but I want to be clear that I am asking them for a job or to point me towards someone who can.
I wish I could help out, but Im lost here myself. Tried to do it once or twice at meetups, but I may be just too socially awkward at the moment to carry out these maneuvers. I've decided that the best way to learn was to learn to communicate so I'm making a conscious effort to communicate with people. I do know, however, that just reading about this, wont solve this. It seems practice is the only answer.
Yeah at the moment I am worrying about contacting people who will be receptive, but that makes me doubly concerned about making a good impression. As far as meetups and in person networking events I dread those. I think you are right that it all comes down to practice. I used to dread doing presentations and now I've done enough that it doesn't bother me too much. It is definitely better to try and fail than to miss an opportunity.

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Re: Networking with people
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2014, 11:12:51 pm »
Just find out what pushes there buttons and offer that.

Once when I was selling wholesale to small shops I would offer sale or return for example just to get them in the door
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Re: Networking with people
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2014, 11:18:54 pm »
generally it's just making friends with people - forget about trying to match professional skills or anything like that; just having a few drinks with someone you work with will likely work out more in your favour.

they'll feel they can trust you more if they know you in a context outside of work.

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Re: Networking with people
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2014, 01:37:26 am »
The thing about mutually successful people who work together, is they are just as likely to be mainly concerned about what you have to bring to the table, as you are to them.. Different people have different standards and expectations. Professional relationships can be.. difficult. Manners and the portrayal of a genuinely nice demeanor go a long way in solidifying those relationships. You have to be reliable, show quality, and expect/receive the same. As far as making those connections, I feel you going about it the absolute right way. If I was serious about business, I'd ant to get down to it.. People say a lot of shit they don't mean over drinks as to not hinder the good time. If you wanting to make connections, you just have to put your ideals directly out there.. those who are like minded or believe in what your saying will want to be a part of it.. then its up to you to weed out who is a potential and who is not..
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Re: Networking with people
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2014, 05:03:15 am »
Hold their family hostage until they get you connected with the "high ups"

Jokes aside, communication is your best tool. Either that or its the bargain system

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