Totse2 is now completely shut down...

[Arnox]

I thought about making some type of announcement or decree, but I figured that it would be noticed in due time. It was best for me to let it have more of a silent departure, if you will. The notice ran for about 3 months, so those who would have benefited from it, and us from them, have probably mostly been realized.

snip

I might have to immortalize this post somewhere on the site. :/

[thedoctor]

Thank you for running one of the best sites on the web for all these years , it must have taken a great deal of your time . I apologise for not posting , no excuse .
I cannot understand the vitriol being post against you , it is ungracious and undeserved .

[Idiosyncrasy]

I am so glad that you posted this. I hope every member reads it. I shared your pm to me with Arnox yesterday. He sounded a little down. I want to thank you for considering my pm. I accepted and respect your decision 100%. When I was able to log into totse2darkbb along with tungsten a few weeks ago I sent you a pm from there. Did you ever get the chance to read it? If not it said " Yo Bitch!! I'm still here!". I believe that the last pm sent at totse2 was by me and the last one at totse2 to receive a pm was you. See, we are connected again. I love you brother!

I did read that PM. The guard was asleep on the job that day and some riffraff snuck in haha. You're right though, you sent the last PM of totse2 and I received the last PM of totse2, so we do have something special.

[Shiva]

Shit site is shit.

* Shiva goes back on to reddit.

Shiva, This is your conscience speaking. Your acting like an asshole!

Pretty sure I abandoned my conscience that second time I did shrooms. Also my conscience had better grammar.

[Σ]

Fuck nigga, why would it torment you to know totse2 is offline when we have this new place here in which we can do what we do. I know boo hoo no mas totse for us. But lets face it totse died with totse. Totse2 was totse2 not totse and it dies with totse2. Sanctuary is sanctuary neither totse nor totse2.

It seems we have a case of standing and looking behind us rather than looking ahead and walking forward.

So long totse's. You had your run but now it is time for the Sanctum.

[Arnox]

It seems we have a case of standing and looking behind us rather than looking ahead and walking forward.

I'm trying but every time I do, we have people like...

yeah I'm sure the only one seeing it that's why your sites bustling with activity

[Idiosyncrasy]

Every site will have a troll. It's best not to pay them any more attention than necessary. At least they spark discussion though, right?

[Spectre]

More like a poor admin that can handle he might be part of the reason his site's not doing well but sure we'll call it trolling when someone calls him out on it

cause I had such a track record of trolling on the previous site

[Idiosyncrasy]

Simply calling someone out on something has rarely had a positive effect, other than adding entertainment value, in any situation. If you want to discuss the etimology of the word troll, then it's disruptive, emotionally provocative, and generally does nothing but upset people, though we should have thicker skin if hanging around these parts.

Do you have any serious suggestions, with clear, attainable, and measurable goals? Can you motivate people to achieve these goals? I ask with earnest because is what a good leader is to do in his or her stripped down essence. I know you didn't offer to lead this place Spectre, but don't criticize the only one who has stepped up with good ideas, initiative, and follow through.

[Spectre]

I've brought up more than enough discussion in the shout box and in the irc with Arnox repeatedly, and the fact that his abrasive nature does not bring users or discussion to the site is pretty evident by the point I brought up that there are barely any users or discussions ON the site. It isn't a statement made to "troll" it's a statement of fact the only direction Arnox hasn't looked to when asking why the site is dying is himself. 

Also if all it took to not get criticized was the ability to host a website we should all be on Zoklet huh

[Idiosyncrasy]

I'm at both sites. Each one has their differences and serve different purposes.

I'm not saying you're wrong about everything Spectre, just saying there are more constructive ways to approach the issue and have your voice heard.

[Spectre]

Unfortunately "constructive" ways haven't particularly got through to some people

[oppenheimmer]

Right did a big comment now it gone wtf

[Arnox]

I've brought up more than enough discussion in the shout box and in the irc with Arnox repeatedly, and the fact that his abrasive nature does not bring users or discussion to the site is pretty evident by the point I brought up that there are barely any users or discussions ON the site. It isn't a statement made to "troll" it's a statement of fact the only direction Arnox hasn't looked to when asking why the site is dying is himself. 

Also if all it took to not get criticized was the ability to host a website we should all be on Zoklet huh

Fine, let me ask you something else. Besides my "attitude", what else do you see wrong with this site right now?

[Spectre]

Fine, let me ask you something else. Besides my "attitude", what else do you see wrong with this site right now?

That's the problem YOU are what's wrong with this site right now. Anyone can own and operate a website but if people have issues with someone who is owning and operating the website they likely won't use it. You're so unwilling to admit you might be doing something wrong but your interactions with a lot of users who haven't come back to the site are really poor.