ATTN: Zek Skeptics and Arnox Nuthuggers

[Slave of the Beast]

How is anyone going to trust a lying piece of shit?

Dude, I told her to lie. If you have a problem, it should be with me.

And he had the choice to follow that instruction or not. It's called being complicit.

[DaGuru]

It truly is amazing how Arnox is spinning this whole thing now after the fact, making himself out to be pure and pristine and all the users that are aghast and offended by his actions as the ones that are "wrong". He has no understanding of the implications of any of this, and is trying to brush this off as some minor misunderstanding for some pseudo altruistic reasons.

I think back on the thread a few weeks ago where people were discussing if Arnox would sell us out to the cops or feds if given the chance, and now that isn't even a question any more. If he would play off this deception and ruse for something as petty and insignificant just to validate his decision on modding a toxic, derailing freakazoid when he had dozens of other actual qualified people to choose from.....then its quite clear he would sell out his own family if it meant making a nickel or protecting his own selfish interests.

And no Arnox, I ain't going anywhere any time soon....because DESPITE you and the pathetic troll/undaddy I'm going to still post and take great amusement watching the continued hypocrisy and fuckups you'll inevitably continue to perpetuate and cling to with such embarrassing  and backwards pride.

[Spectre]

he'd rather tell people to leave than actually face facts and try to make this place worthy of decent conversations no wonder it's a fucking ghost town with that attitude

you'd rather watch an entire userbase turn against you one by one then just be a good fucking admin

[equanimity]

[zok jr.]

I'm not sure how i feel about all of this...

[-SpectraL]

moar lyke..

[Slave of the Beast]

Even if you had a valid point, you are in no position to mock:

If the mods start pulling threads apart whenever there's an off-topic post made we really run that risk of micromanaging and possibly overstepping our bounds, which some other members mentioned as concerns.  Post removal might have its place, but we would do well to approach it very mindfully.

If Arnox decided it was best and tasked us with removing off-topic posts, we of course could all manage it.

So the risks that you thought were "really" possible no longer exist, despite the mod team in question being exactly the same as it was 24 hrs ago when you made that statement.

What precisely has changed?

If micromanagement is what turns you on, we can move and edit posts 'til you get yours.  It wouldn't be my policy if I were Arnox, and it would cause a hopefully small amount of strife.  But it's his website, and we're plenty capable of moving posts around if that becomes our job around here.

Even if that were true, it's completely irrelevant to the question; why have you fully reversed your opinion of the mod teams' abilities within the space of 24hrs?

I'm going to keep on asking this question until I get a direct answer.

Less than 20 minutes later via PM...

This forum drama is really tiring.  Don't you agree?  I'm not a big fan of your leading questions, either.  In the end we both want the same thing: a fun place to post and hang out with e-friends.

Is all the drama really worth it?

.... you cry to me about asking difficult questions based directly on what you've said "leading questions".

A question you still haven't answered.

[-SpectraL]

Asking difficult questions can be considered a crime against the current regime, and labeled as such. Free speech is only as good as long the person on the receiving end doesn't get too butthurt about them. Advice? Grow a thicker skin or just get the fuck out.

[mizled]

"I love it when a plan finally comes to fruition"

[equanimity]

"I love it when a plan finally comes to fruition"

Yeah, I'll just tell everyone I'm not 'Zek when they ask.  That's sure to work!  Another great idea, thanks brain!

[Umbrella Corp]

A house divided against zek CANNOT stand

[mizled]

"I love it when a plan finally comes to fruition"

Yeah, I'll just tell everyone I'm not 'Zek when they ask.  That's sure to work!  Another great idea, thanks brain!

[Hazza32]

The truth is that I lied

[DaGuru]

  This was something really minor, and it's so crazy watching the drama get out of hand the more people talk about it.

If you really wanted the drama to end, you would step down from the moderator position. Simple question for you, why do you HAVE to be a moderator on here any how? If all you really want to do is "mess around" on here, you can still do that to your heart's content as a poster. Why is it so vital for you to maintain some sense of "control" over eveyrone else's experience on here?

You step down, you still post, very little drama left. You maintain modship, you still post, only drama left is you whining when the other mods infract you for your constant derailing. If you really wanted LESS drama, you would do the right thing. But everyone knows those are empty words above, because your attention whoring agenda is ALL this is about.

And it wasn't "something minor". It was a lie, deception, and severe manipulation that lasted for several weeks. With a very immature and disruptive agenda behind that deception. All over the rhetoric of "herp, derp. I was doing an experiment"....and coddling both of your very fragile and backwards egos. If there was any bigger picture, long term goal that could have benefitted the ENTIRE userbase over lies and manipulation it might have some "purpose" in theory. But it didn't, it was all about the 2 of you playing games and betraying the entire website. Period.

[-SpectraL]