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Offline Lanny

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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2014, 03:10:30 am »
And in any case, hardly anyone here has a problem with the PI rule it looks like. You seem to be the only one who has a problem with it. Just saiyan.

So when/if enough people complain about PI or find the rule ambiguous then you'll repeal it? I'm the only person complaining now but I expect when a popular poster gets banned people will give a shit and they'll let you know, it's happened in the past.

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Posting a users PI is not only a huge annoyance to the user who's PI was posted, in some rare extreme cases, it can also become a serious identity theft hazard and some of our more crazy members may just take advantage of the PI and track down the user (Yes, I've heard of this happening legitly. Don't tell me it doesn't.) to harm him/her in some way.

You're right, it is annoying to be doxxed. Probably not dangerous to anyone here, but I'll give it to you for the sake of argument. The problem is that the rule doesn't stop anyone from doing it. It actually encourages it because PI becomes commoditized. The damage is done if the person posting the PI is banned or not (not to mention spreading PI through email and PM is absolutely trivial).

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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2014, 03:12:57 am »


So when/if enough people complain about PI or find the rule ambiguous then you'll repeal it? I'm the only person complaining now but I expect when a popular poster gets banned people will give a shit and they'll let you know, it's happened in the past.



You're right, it is annoying to be doxxed. Probably not dangerous to anyone here, but I'll give it to you for the sake of argument. The problem is that the rule doesn't stop anyone from doing it. It actually encourages it because PI becomes commoditized. The damage is done if the person posting the PI is banned or not (not to mention spreading PI through email and PM is absolutely trivial).

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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2014, 03:16:25 am »


So when/if enough people complain about PI or find the rule ambiguous then you'll repeal it? I'm the only person complaining now but I expect when a popular poster gets banned people will give a shit and they'll let you know, it's happened in the past.



You're right, it is annoying to be doxxed. Probably not dangerous to anyone here, but I'll give it to you for the sake of argument. The problem is that the rule doesn't stop anyone from doing it. It actually encourages it because PI becomes commoditized. The damage is done if the person posting the PI is banned or not (not to mention spreading PI through email and PM is absolutely trivial).

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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2014, 03:49:04 am »
I'm the only person complaining now but I expect when a popular poster gets banned people will give a shit and they'll let you know, it's happened in the past.

You're right, it is annoying to be doxxed. Probably not dangerous to anyone here, but I'll give it to you for the sake of argument. The problem is that the rule doesn't stop anyone from doing it. It actually encourages it because PI becomes commoditized. The damage is done if the person posting the PI is banned or not (not to mention spreading PI through email and PM is absolutely trivial).

If that happens, I'll just point them to the rules and tell them that they agreed to follow them when they were made. As to a lot of posters possibly complaining about it now, if they bring up good points against it, I'll remove it. (I really doubt it though.)

As to the rule making it a commodity, it already is a commodity simply by it being private information. And it has more of a purpose besides just removing PI. It's also a way to point out problem users. Chances are, if someone posts PI of somebody else here maliciously, that's a user we don't want here. However, there is one valid argument for removing the rule and that is that if someone posts PI of someone here, a lot of the time, there's no way for other members and guests to verify if that's really the users PI or not.


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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2014, 03:49:08 am »
lol this is lol
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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #50 on: October 28, 2014, 04:15:59 am »
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And in any case, hardly anyone here has a problem with the PI rule it looks like. You seem to be the only one who has a problem with it. Just saiyan.

So when/if enough people complain about PI or find the rule ambiguous then you'll repeal it? I'm the only person complaining now but I expect when a popular poster gets banned people will give a shit and they'll let you know, it's happened in the past.

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Posting a users PI is not only a huge annoyance to the user who's PI was posted, in some rare extreme cases, it can also become a serious identity theft hazard and some of our more crazy members may just take advantage of the PI and track down the user (Yes, I've heard of this happening legitly. Don't tell me it doesn't.) to harm him/her in some way.

You're right, it is annoying to be doxxed. Probably not dangerous to anyone here, but I'll give it to you for the sake of argument. The problem is that the rule doesn't stop anyone from doing it. It actually encourages it because PI becomes commoditized. The damage is done if the person posting the PI is banned or not (not to mention spreading PI through email and PM is absolutely trivial).

what the fuck is it with you zoklet faggots and needing so desperately to harvest and store people's information? just post on the forum without all this bullshit. i haven't seen any decent posts from you. post some decent content or fuck off to some other forum.

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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #51 on: October 28, 2014, 04:28:40 am »
If that happens, I'll just point them to the rules and tell them that they agreed to follow them when they were made. As to a lot of posters possibly complaining about it now, if they bring up good points against it, I'll remove it. (I really doubt it though.)

Wouldn't it be better to actually avoid pissing people off rather than pointing to the rules and saying tough luck?

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As to the rule making it a commodity, it already is a commodity simply by it being private information.

I disagree. There's actual research demonstrating that making something forbidden actually makes it more attractive. Even if it didn't increase the appeal of PI there's still the fact that the PI rule helps no one.

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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2014, 04:30:47 am »
what the fuck is it with you zoklet faggots and needing so desperately to harvest and store people's information? just post on the forum without all this bullshit. i haven't seen any decent posts from you. post some decent content or fuck off to some other forum.

I couldn't imagine giving less of a fuck if my posting habits measure up to your bullshit quality standards.

All I've ever seen you do is meta-bitch about other people bitching. You're doing everything they are except you're an extraordinary hypocrite for doing so.

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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #53 on: October 28, 2014, 04:34:51 am »
hey could you change the CP rule for a few hours so I can unload my stash and exclaim good riddance? mmthanks in advance

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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #54 on: October 28, 2014, 04:38:17 am »
what the fuck is it with you zoklet faggots and needing so desperately to harvest and store people's information? just post on the forum without all this bullshit. i haven't seen any decent posts from you. post some decent content or fuck off to some other forum.

I couldn't imagine giving less of a fuck if my posting habits measure up to your bullshit quality standards.

All I've ever seen you do is meta-bitch about other people bitching. You're doing everything they are except you're an extraordinary hypocrite for doing so.

All you do is cry and moan trying to get PI allowed on here. You're less than worthless by anyone's standards. It's sad you can't post any real worthwhile content. Make your own PI forum and see how that goes.

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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #55 on: October 28, 2014, 05:04:05 am »
All you do is cry and moan trying to get PI allowed on here. You're less than worthless by anyone's standards. It's sad you can't post any real worthwhile content. Make your own PI forum and see how that goes.

I'll continue posting here as long as it pleases me and if it makes you mad in the process then all the better.

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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #56 on: October 28, 2014, 06:40:27 am »
No more advertising your things, guys ;)
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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #57 on: October 28, 2014, 07:08:00 am »
Rules seem legit.. no quarrels here.
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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #58 on: October 28, 2014, 10:54:24 am »
- If you repeatedly violate a rule, or if we think you are just bringing the site down, you may be banned for a long time or permabanned.

Does this mean someone can be banned for their post style, e.g. being direct, persistent and ruthless in discussion? I ask because I can imagine a scenario whereby a mod' recommends a user be permabanned because they are consistently 'mean and unfriendly'. On the basis of what I've seen so far on this site I doubt they'd even be required to validate their claim before action was considered.

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Re: The New Rules (Currently in Beta)
« Reply #59 on: October 28, 2014, 11:12:53 am »

what the fuck is it with you zoklet faggots and needing so desperately to harvest and store people's information? just post on the forum without all this bullshit. i haven't seen any decent posts from you. post some decent content or fuck off to some other forum.

For those of you new to Lanny, he's not just a troll....but a very dedicated troll. This is a guy that got significant amusement at posing as a girl back at Zoklet....and not just for a couple of days or week or so, but for literally close to 2 years. :facepalm: Of course in the middle of the ambiguity/uncertainty someone made him a mod because of the slight possibility of him possessing a vagina, and that too ended very badly. The sad little shit got so butthurt at a user that constantly embarrassed him and made him look the fool, he ended up writing some code that gave said user several thousand infraction/bans all at the same time. He was of course demodded and perma-banned immediately, and nothing was really lost at all in the process.

Sure Lanny may know a little about techy computer bullshit, but that is only a product of the fact he lives/breathes all things computers as he has no socialization outside the internet and hardly any "life experience" to speak of. You NEVER hear him talk about things like..."I was at a party and this happened"..."I was with this girl and that happened"...."I was doing these drugs and ______"....he has ZERO anecdotes about real life things that most of us engage in, which is why trolling and immature idiocy is ALL he brings to the table.