A fighter in Brazil molested his 1 year old boy & gets raped in jail

[constantinople]

Prisoners are people too, no matter what they may have done.  They should be protected from assaults like this.

So are you saying it was okay for him to do that? No one held a gun to his head and told him to molest his son.

Saying he doesn't deserve to be assaulted in a brutal manner doesn't equate to me absolving him of his guilt. I don't know how I can be any clearer about that.

[Suicidal Fish]

Prisoners are people too, no matter what they may have done.  They should be protected from assaults like this.

So are you saying it was okay for him to do that? No one held a gun to his head and told him to molest his son.

Saying he doesn't deserve to be assaulted in a brutal manner doesn't equate to me absolving him of his guilt. I don't know how I can be any clearer about that.

So do you believe that his punishment for ruining somebodies life should be a life of 3 meals a day, a roof over his head and full access to things some people cannot imagine having?

Because without the rape thats what he will have got.

Now he gets 4 meals a day

#EnjoyYourMealRapist

[Lanny]

So do you believe that his punishment for ruining somebodies life should be a life of 3 meals a day, a roof over his head and full access to things some people cannot imagine having?

Your life must be unimaginably pathetic if you think prison sans rape sounds like a jolly old time.

[Umbrella Corp]

Prisoners are people too, no matter what they may have done.  They should be protected from assaults like this.

So are you saying it was okay for him to do that? No one held a gun to his head and told him to molest his son.

Uhh no she wasn't saying it was okay to do it at all.  Reading comprehension fail.

When vigilante justice prevails it undermines the whole system.  It's bad enough that in this day and age people are often found guilty in the court of public opinion before they are even tried. 

It's important for everybody to get a fair trial and fair judgment even if they are "obviously" guilty.  Otherwise false accusations by people in power against those that threaten them will be the new law of the land. 

N Let's not forget that everybody that is found guilty is not actually guilty.  DNA has exhonorated many people since it's prominence. 

The basic primal part of me says "good, let that chomo get raped until he needs to wear depends" but we live in a society with rules that are there to suppress our primal instincts.

[equanimity]

So do you believe that his punishment for ruining somebodies life should be a life of 3 meals a day, a roof over his head and full access to things some people cannot imagine having?

Because without the rape thats what he will have got.

Now he gets 4 meals a day

#EnjoyYourMealRapist

Have you been to jail?  It's awful.  Prison is worse, even if you're not being violently raped and beaten on a regular basis.  Not that we should even be punishing him for what he did- the man probably suffers from mental illness and needs help.

[Infinityshock]

So do you believe that his punishment for ruining somebodies life should be a life of 3 meals a day, a roof over his head and full access to things some people cannot imagine having?

Because without the rape thats what he will have got.

Now he gets 4 meals a day

#EnjoyYourMealRapist

Have you been to jail?  It's awful.  Prison is worse, even if you're not being violently raped and beaten on a regular basis.  Not that we should even be punishing him for what he did- the man probably suffers from mental illness and needs help.

When youre the one doing the raping its not so bad. The added benefit is when youre bored with a particular wife you can rent her out in exchange for commissary

[Infinityshock]

No

This is why the universe invented karma

I'll take relies too stupid to respond to for $600 Alex

The only replies youre capable of

[Infinityshock]

No

This is why the universe invented karma

I'll take relies too stupid to respond to for $600 Alex

The only replies you're capable of

[Lanny]

be sure to post it twice so I can get twice the laughs

[Infinityshock]

be sure to post it twice so I can get twice the laughs

Moot point is moot

[Lanny]

what does that even mean?

[Slave of the Beast]

Degenerate mindsets cluster together, so I'm hardly surprised.

Lol, you really are an abrasive cunt. I realize you get mad when people point out you're unpersonable and unnecessarily hostile but try not to get your panties in a twist this time, k?

That's a matter of perspective. I think people use far too much moisturizer on their plump little cheeks, so when they brush against me they think they've been sandblasted when really I'm just tickling them. And I got "mad" because Equatits couldn't substantiate her claim about me. It's not the first time and I doubt it will be the last. As for the"people", who, the hordes of dismayed users that consist of... you, E and Arnox? Hah.

Anyway...

Paedophilia is incurable. Those who go so far as to rape children are a serious threat in terms of repeat offence. The alternative is to lock them up end indefinitely. This is extremely expensive and constitutes under law, they argue, a violation of their human rights. Better just to destroy them.

Well in the US a death sentence usually ends up being more expensive than lifetime imprisonment but that's besides the point. My point is that if we really think that no significant of pedophilic sex offenders can be rehabilitated (and unfortunately that does seem to be the case) then let's actually commit to that position and have the state permanently remove them from society instead of giving the task to "vigilante" inmates.

The problem with US death sentences is that someone can spend 25+ years waiting to receive the penalty (average is 15 years, as of 2010). What kind of deterrent is that? There's a good chance a death row inmate will die of natural causes before the state finally gets to him. Some of them wouldn't live as long back on the streets; by sentencing them to death they are in fact being granted a life extension. And the appeal system is a joke, for example: "John Wayne Gacy, who confessed to killing 33 young males, filed 523 separate appeals, none of them based on a claim of innocence, and so delayed his execution by 14 years." It's beyond parody.

Before saying the death penalty doesn't act as a deterrent first try killing people much, much faster.

[ngalo1983]

In the U.S. he would be placed in PC yards. He would have a good time there and he can get easy access to getting some male booty if he wanted some. That's why rapist and child molesters in the U.S. get out of jail and do it again because jail time was easy. That guy in Brazil had a rough experience and believe me when I say this, he will never molest another child ever again when he gets out of jail. When he gets the urges he will remember what happened to him in jail and will not do it. I'm not saying its right or wrong. That's for you to decide.

[Lanny]

That's a matter of perspective. I think people use far too much moisturizer on their plump little cheeks, so when they brush against me they think they've been sandblasted when really I'm just tickling them.

Oh you're so badass, all gruff, never sugar coating anything. Needlessly being an asshole really makes you seem cool, not like an autistic child at all.

The problem with US death sentences is that someone can spend 25+ years waiting to receive the penalty (average is 15 years, as of 2010). What kind of deterrent is that? There's a good chance a death row inmate will die of natural causes before the state finally gets to him. Some of them wouldn't live as long back on the streets; by sentencing them to death they are in fact being granted a life extension. And the appeal system is a joke, for example: "John Wayne Gacy, who confessed to killing 33 young males, filed 523 separate appeals, none of them based on a claim of innocence, and so delayed his execution by 14 years." It's beyond parody.

Before saying the death penalty doesn't act as a deterrent first try killing people much, much faster.

You've missed my argument. Harsher punishments in general are not a significant deterrent, if we're talking about the difference between a life sentence and the death penalty or between a 10 vs. 20 year term. We can't expect that adding prison rape to the potential consequences for a crime is going to reduce the frequency of that crime. If deterrence is our only concern then prison rape never makes sense.

Many people think deterrence isn't the only reason for prison sentences (no one would ever say "he deserved it" about a person with a life sentence otherwise). It's to these people that I'm arguing that prison rape is still unacceptable because if we really can establish that people "deserve" further punishment then we should codify that in our legal system, not let the uneven hand of inmates decide or allow criminals go without sufficient punishment.

[constantinople]

Morality aside, raping people half to death is an extremely inefficient way of dealing with crime. Maybe more so than the prison system after hospital bills are dealt with, let alone doing it twice in two months, on top of incarceration.