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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2014, 10:33:54 pm »


Waiting for a response to this post.

He won't respond. For days several members have been making poignant posts and asking sincere questions, and he has either completely ignored them, made some cheesy one-liner, or just went to his control panel as an attempt to make it all go away.

Its a shame really. When everyone merged over, so many people admired the fact he was a hands-on admin, actively posting himself and not avoiding the tough problems. He would take stuff head on, and address just about any and all questions posed to him in the middle of all the controversy. Now he's taken a complete 180, and doesn't care how much it ruins the website in the process.

Arnox, most of this userbase is quite disappointed in you......

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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #61 on: October 15, 2014, 10:45:20 pm »
ARNOX ASSHOLE IS SO LOOSE HE SHITS WATERPISS

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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2014, 12:21:23 am »
Is there any actual evidence justifying this level of bitching? Actual evidence being more than unsubstantiated claims and/or jumps in logic. You know, not the same intuitive misfires that led -Spectral to blame eBagger for CP spam and DaGuru to accuse me of being a former zoklet mod (lol). It seems the loudest instigators don't think before speaking as often as they should. I wouldn't fault anyone for not kowtowing to their demands, even if they were right.

For example: Equanimity's fault is being a social mod and not a contributor to the core sections that make this community what it is: bad ideas, drugs, and explosives. The majority of the criticisms against her thus far 1) don't touch this 2) are unsubstantiated. I'd merge that rotting pile of tangential feces into the same thread too. If you want something to happen, make your criticism relevant, substantiate it, and express it in a form that invites others to actually want to listen to you (read: not a fucking wall of text, not the same shit over and over).

Why are we so obsessed with "totse ideals," beholden to this failed system where a community is supposed to be represented by archetypal paragons as opposed to being composed of them? Before being composed of them? You really think staff have the power here? It's becoming more and more apparent that we're a fucking D vortex and Zok was right to bow out.

Have any of you been on forums moderated by actual power abusers? You say you have, but I kinda doubt it or at least your memory of it. How many users here have been permabanned for utterly nothing? How much quality content has been hard deleted? How many threads have been locked only to serve as sounding boards for staff afforded the ability to say what they want with no one else given an opportunity to respond? What, specifically, leads you to believe this forum is headed in that direction?
Arnox, most of this userbase is quite disappointed in you......
Source that you're the forum Lorax, preferably peer-reviewed?
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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2014, 03:41:18 am »
Is there any actual evidence justifying this level of bitching?
Source that you're the forum Lorax, preferably peer-reviewed?

I'm not gonna take the time to find every thread, because if you'd be paying attention and get your head out of your ass you could see all the finite examples I'm about to describe...

-Moving thread around willy nilly as his suits him. Oftentimes not even moving them to the forum he intends them to be moved ("herp derp, this is more appropriate for B&M or HB".....all the while he's posting that comment after moving it in NIMF)

-Moving threads into B&M after several days and several pages of being elsewhere, with the excuse "well the tone of this thread has changed"...which is usually caused by HIS participation in said thread and everyone else putting the little creep in his place.

-Infracting/banning people for hurting his feelings

-Not having any clue to what the REAL definition of "spam" is....again, if his feelings are hurt its now considered spam

-Trying to change the purpose of forums themselves. Whining because people use "mean" language in B&M and they aren't nicer with their discourse. Even so far as labeling one of the better posters to ever find a keyboard as a "trouble maker"....all because he's bitching and moaning in the Bitch and Moan forum.

-Doing stupid and immature stuff....like wanting post count reset, changing names on a whim, etc.

-Being a sub-par poster as a whole. Really doesn't "add" anything to most of the discussions, and just trolls nonsense with the constant peace/love/can't we all just get along in an arena that is supposed to ENCOURAGE debate, not constant agreement.

-Is a lousy representative of the website, the culture and the subject matter discussed. Anti-gun, anti-drug, anti-violence, anti-conflict.....all the hippy trippy ideology of hand holding and peace.

Now to some the last few may sound petty to even care about, but again the entire purpose of a moderator is to be one of the "better" posters and be a guiding influence on site politics and what the place is "about". Instead of giving off a Totse-esque type vibe to attract and retain new users, this place is becoming more and more like some frilly soft fag fest, or an old ladies bridge club.

Along with that, when Arnox is making bold and grandiose statements of moderators having to be exemplary, mature, stable, professional etc.....all the behaviors above and his personality in general are in complete contrast of his supposed pre-requisites.

In essence, not only is he abusing his mod perks....but especially making a mockery of what this place is supposed to be about, along with dragging Arnox's credibility right through the mud. Arnox is too stubborn to admit he made a terrible mistake, and in the end he is losing more respect as every hour goes by when Zek continues to act like such an immature, flaky, and awkward little bitch that quite simply does NOT fit in with the userbase, the Totse ideals backing it, and the more hardcore/controversial subject matter that makes him so squeamish.

As for the Lorax comment, I'm not sure what you mean as I'm not familiar with all of that...but given the context of what you were responding to, I'll assume you claim I'm putting myself in the guise of "spokesperson" for the entire website. As I've said earlier, only a small handful of people left are "supporting" Arnox in regard to any of this Zek farce, and again if you were paying any attention at all....the "disappointed" comment was a tongue-in-cheek reference mocking Arnox himself because he used the same verbiage towards a member a couple of days ago while sitting on his high horse casting judgement on the people trying to open his eyes to the simple common sense he continues to purposely avoid. Basically making him eat the same shit he is slinging.  8)

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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2014, 03:57:31 am »
Daguru loves him some forum politics.
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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2014, 04:02:36 am »
Alright, let's get to it.  Actually reading and responding to a DaGuru post.  The things I do for you people ;)

I'm not gonna take the time to find every thread, because if you'd be paying attention and get your head out of your ass you could see all the finite examples I'm about to describe...

Links would have been helpful.

-Moving thread around willy nilly as his suits him. Oftentimes not even moving them to the forum he intends them to be moved ("herp derp, this is more appropriate for B&M or HB".....all the while he's posting that comment after moving it in NIMF)

You mean this thread: http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=3143.0

I moved it to NIMF as opposed to HB because the HB community used to get upset when their forum was used as a trashcan.  This was covered in the thread.

-Moving threads into B&M after several days and several pages of being elsewhere, with the excuse "well the tone of this thread has changed"...which is usually caused by HIS participation in said thread and everyone else putting the little creep in his place.

That thread I moved into B&M was not taken off-topic because of me; SpectraL and Lanny were really getting heated over some tech stuff that had nothing to do with the initial topic at all.

-Infracting/banning people for hurting his feelings

Who?  Those recent posters that were spamming zek's PI through PM and on the boards?  They were banned for spamming and ban evading, which is really what I meant by "alt accounts".  I should have been more clear in the ban messages and linked to examples when appropriate but sometimes I do this stuff on my phone.  Poor excuse.  I'll keep it in mind and do what I can to ensure you guys have as much information as possible in the future.

But I promise that I have not infracted or banned a poster who had broken no rules.

-Not having any clue to what the REAL definition of "spam" is....again, if his feelings are hurt its now considered spam

Pasting the same message containing PI into random threads around the forum counts as spam in my book.  Even if you're gonna turn rules lawyer and say it doesn't count as PI here, it still counts as spam.

-Trying to change the purpose of forums themselves. Whining because people use "mean" language in B&M and they aren't nicer with their discourse. Even so far as labeling one of the better posters to ever find a keyboard as a "trouble maker"....all because he's bitching and moaning in the Bitch and Moan forum.

What?

-Doing stupid and immature stuff....like wanting post count reset, changing names on a whim, etc.

You want a namechange, or reduction in post count?  Arnox would probably allow it.

-Being a sub-par poster as a whole. Really doesn't "add" anything to most of the discussions, and just trolls nonsense with the constant peace/love/can't we all just get along in an arena that is supposed to ENCOURAGE debate, not constant agreement.

Hey man I just work here; what do you want from me? :)

-Is a lousy representative of the website, the culture and the subject matter discussed. Anti-gun, anti-drug, anti-violence, anti-conflict.....all the hippy trippy ideology of hand holding and peace.

I'm not anti-gun or anti-drug.  But anyway you're being ridiculous.

Now to some the last few may sound petty to even care about, but again the entire purpose of a moderator is to be one of the "better" posters and be a guiding influence on site politics and what the place is "about". Instead of giving off a Totse-esque type vibe to attract and retain new users, this place is becoming more and more like some frilly soft fag fest, or an old ladies bridge club.

Along with that, when Arnox is making bold and grandiose statements of moderators having to be exemplary, mature, stable, professional etc.....all the behaviors above and his personality in general are in complete contrast of his supposed pre-requisites.

In essence, not only is he abusing his mod perks....but especially making a mockery of what this place is supposed to be about, along with dragging Arnox's credibility right through the mud. Arnox is too stubborn to admit he made a terrible mistake, and in the end he is losing more respect as every hour goes by when Zek continues to act like such an immature, flaky, and awkward little bitch that quite simply does NOT fit in with the userbase, the Totse ideals backing it, and the more hardcore/controversial subject matter that makes him so squeamish.

As for the Lorax comment, I'm not sure what you mean as I'm not familiar with all of that...but given the context of what you were responding to, I'll assume you claim I'm putting myself in the guise of "spokesperson" for the entire website. As I've said earlier, only a small handful of people left are "supporting" Arnox in regard to any of this Zek farce, and again if you were paying any attention at all....the "disappointed" comment was a tongue-in-cheek reference mocking Arnox himself because he used the same verbiage towards a member a couple of days ago while sitting on his high horse casting judgement on the people trying to open his eyes to the simple common sense he continues to purposely avoid. Basically making him eat the same shit he is slinging.  8)

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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2014, 05:49:32 am »
DaGuru, you've posted your magnum opus. You can die now and we'll all remember you by that last post.

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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #67 on: October 16, 2014, 05:56:53 am »
-Is a lousy representative of the website, the culture and the subject matter discussed. Anti-gun, anti-drug, anti-violence, anti-conflict.....all the hippy trippy ideology of hand holding and peace.

Because obviously to be a good moderator you have to hold the majority opinion. Everyone knows that's historically been the case too, right?

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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #68 on: October 16, 2014, 05:57:59 am »
DaGuru, you've posted your magnum opus. You can die now and we'll all remember you by that last post.

I would highly recommend DaGuru take this advice.

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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2014, 08:45:33 am »
Zek is a fucking faggot, and should not be a mod. the rest of the staff are fine by me.
we've all been Zok-blocked.

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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2014, 08:54:26 am »

Hmmm... being a tranny automatically disqualifies you from being a mod??

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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #71 on: October 16, 2014, 09:16:52 am »
It seems the loudest instigators don't think before speaking as often as they should.

And aside from Spectral and Daguru which other users would you group in this category?

I wouldn't fault anyone for not kowtowing to their demands, even if they were right.

Well if 'they' were right that would be childish and insecure. An argument is no less valid simply because of its style.

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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #72 on: October 16, 2014, 09:27:29 am »

If we were all on a small boat in the middle of the ocean and starving to death, I would vote Lanny as the first one to be selected to be eaten.

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Re: The Official Staff Complaint/Hate Thread
« Reply #73 on: October 16, 2014, 10:09:22 am »

If we were all on a small boat in the middle of the ocean and starving to death, I would vote Lanny as the first one to be selected to be eaten.

If by "we" you mean everyone on sanctuary, then we probably wouldn't even be able to stand in a small boat.
I would bail pretty fast.  No point in staying in a tiny boat with you fucks.
See you on the nearest island, or in a sharks stomach.  Whatever does it really. Anything beats being clustered up in tiny space with you freaks.
You'll probably end up raping, killing, eating eachother anyway, not to mention crying like little girls.

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« Reply #74 on: October 16, 2014, 10:32:05 am »

If we were all on a small boat in the middle of the ocean and starving to death, I would vote Lanny as the first one to be selected to be eaten.

If by "we" you mean everyone on sanctuary, then we probably wouldn't even be able to stand in a small boat.
I would bail pretty fast.  No point in staying in a tiny boat with you fucks.
See you on the nearest island, or in a sharks stomach.  Whatever does it really. Anything beats being clustered up in tiny space with you freaks.
You'll probably end up raping, killing, eating eachother anyway, not to mention crying like little girls.

Don't kid yourself. I f you were hungry enough, you'd even eat Lanny.