anyone confirm these arent loaded?
This is one of those things where my words won't mean much so I understand where you're coming from. I've been there and we all have, if you're out actively trying to get these programs. The ones that I know for certain that are clean are
ragebot* and darkcometfinal. DarkComet is a RAT that is well known by many in the infosec community. I downloaded that from the company before they were shut down. They have/had a great reputation.
*ragebot is not there. I thought it was. I'll up it when I find it. It's not on the computer that I thought it was.
Also, aldra is right. FUDcrypters, polymorphic code and obfuscation have rendered AV useless. You can't tell. This is one of those "at your own risk" type things. I recommend a virtual box or a burner computer. Technically, they are loaded. When you or whoever else downloads this (not installs), most antivirus will pick it up and delete it.