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How do you invest?
« on: October 09, 2014, 06:16:23 am »
Hey folks-

I wanted to see if and how people here invest their money.

I'm currently doing a blend of about 20% cash, 30% bonds, and 50% stock. I've been hearing that it'd be smart to look at some international funds to balance out the individual stocks, but I haven't decided yet.

What do you guys do?

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Re: How do you invest?
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2014, 06:46:09 am »
I used to be infatuated with the idea of playing the stock market.. And I still one day want to be able to have a sizable amount of investments in my portfolio, but at the current time.. I'm not involved. I do have my eye on more than a few companies though if that counts. Do you do your own market research and try to invest ahead of the curve, or do you stick to certain somewhat reliable stocks? I get you could do both.. just didnt want to make that 2 separate questions.

 My current investments are all physical.. property (house + 5 acres), Bullion (scrap gold, silver, and an abundance of copper pennies.. seriously, I'm going to double my money and make a few grand one day), livestock (alpacas and chickens), Guns (they never lose much value, currently own 5.. I enjoy them, but I also buy them as an investment)..

 What do I plan to invest in? Companies pertaining to robotic exo-skeletons, crystalline battery technology, and anything that looks like a successful way to mass produce food.. Really, those are going to be your big companies of the future, and getting in early on them.. I think, will be very profitable. Robotic Exoskeletons amplify human strength and will be utilized in construction, health industries, and the armed forces.. We are constantly looking for more power and longer battery life.. the next step in that advancement and with the success of crystal batteries will leave us looking back at the technology of this generation and shake our heads.. And with the world population over 7 billion, and expected to rise at an astounding rate (short of Ebola Apocalypse), anything regarding growing food in mass production is going to be a wise investment.

 I plan to buy 4 more acres beside my property to expand it, and it'll actually make me money and pay for itself after its logged. Also got my eye on a cheap house for $5k a few miles away.. If I can get my own farm squared away, I could potentially have my first rental property by next year.. Having a few rental properties is one of the corner stones of my successful future plan. I actually have way more eccentric plans, but I laid out my more basic realistic ones.
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Re: How do you invest?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2014, 08:03:18 am »
I invest in 3 things. Land, seeds (various veggies and fruits), and ammo.

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Re: How do you invest?
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2014, 06:15:29 pm »
So my assets are located 20% in cash, 10% in jewelery and the rest ~70% is stock. Long term-investments are not on my radar yet as i don`t like waiting more than a week to actually see decent profit.

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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2014, 07:05:45 pm »
I used to be infatuated with the idea of playing the stock market.. And I still one day want to be able to have a sizable amount of investments in my portfolio, but at the current time.. I'm not involved. I do have my eye on more than a few companies though if that counts. Do you do your own market research and try to invest ahead of the curve, or do you stick to certain somewhat reliable stocks? I get you could do both.. just didnt want to make that 2 separate questions.


That definitely counts and I actually think that's the best way to get started. I really encourage you to go a step further, though, and start making predictions about stock activity of companies you watch.

So if you have your eye on GE, for example, try to predict whether it will increase or decrease in value. Track what it does and see if you would have earned money or not on such a buy. This will improve your chops without risking any cash.

Currently, I invest mostly in solid bets. Large companies with proven records and high dividends. This is mostly due to how swamped I am with work and school. Playing the market would take 2+ hours of research per day to stay on top of everything happening, preferably more, and I just can't devote that much time to it.

Occasionally I jump in ahead of the curve, however, if I see good indicators. I purchased Tesla and a few other similar companies, for example, before they really blew up due to indicators that the investor media seemed to have missed. Also, everyone is biased as hell against Tesla because of the perception of clean tech as being less proven than dirty tech. So I used that against them to buy a lot at a low price. Understanding fellow investors' mental states and perceptions are probably the single most valuable things you can learn.

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My current investments are all physical.. property (house + 5 acres), Bullion (scrap gold, silver, and an abundance of copper pennies.. seriously, I'm going to double my money and make a few grand one day), livestock (alpacas and chickens), Guns (they never lose much value, currently own 5.. I enjoy them, but I also buy them as an investment)..

 What do I plan to invest in? Companies pertaining to robotic exo-skeletons, crystalline battery technology, and anything that looks like a successful way to mass produce food.. Really, those are going to be your big companies of the future, and getting in early on them.. I think, will be very profitable. Robotic Exoskeletons amplify human strength and will be utilized in construction, health industries, and the armed forces.. We are constantly looking for more power and longer battery life.. the next step in that advancement and with the success of crystal batteries will leave us looking back at the technology of this generation and shake our heads.. And with the world population over 7 billion, and expected to rise at an astounding rate (short of Ebola Apocalypse), anything regarding growing food in mass production is going to be a wise investment.

 I plan to buy 4 more acres beside my property to expand it, and it'll actually make me money and pay for itself after its logged. Also got my eye on a cheap house for $5k a few miles away.. If I can get my own farm squared away, I could potentially have my first rental property by next year.. Having a few rental properties is one of the corner stones of my successful future plan. I actually have way more eccentric plans, but I laid out my more basic realistic ones.

Those sound like smart bets to me. Healthcare/agriculture, clean tech, and defense investments are going to be compelling options for the reasons of climate change alone: we will need new agriculture sources, cleaner technologies, and lots of defense spending over resource wars or skirmishes that break out. Those are my long-term sectors these days.

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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2014, 07:06:23 pm »
I invest in 3 things. Land, seeds (various veggies and fruits), and ammo.

Three things that don't lose a lot of value, I'll give you that.

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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2014, 07:07:34 pm »
So my assets are located 20% in cash, 10% in jewelery and the rest ~70% is stock. Long term-investments are not on my radar yet as i don`t like waiting more than a week to actually see decent profit.

Jewelry? Do you deal in it?

I would prefer shorter-term transactions to boost my bank account, but it can be time consuming doing the due diligence for those kinds of deals. I'll get there eventually as my time frees up.

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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2014, 07:21:09 pm »
So my assets are located 20% in cash, 10% in jewelery and the rest ~70% is stock. Long term-investments are not on my radar yet as i don`t like waiting more than a week to actually see decent profit.

Jewelry? Do you deal in it?

I would prefer shorter-term transactions to boost my bank account, but it can be time consuming doing the due diligence for those kinds of deals. I'll get there eventually as my time frees up.

As i travel quite a lot, i usually buy jewelery from turkey or rip people off in some shitty -stan country and resell this stuff with a huge margin here in Europe. Also, i work in a bank where i can store some precious metal in form of bracelets and necklaces as an employee. In addition to that, i can also make stock transaction while i am at work, so that`s quite a benefit.

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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2014, 07:24:50 pm »
So my assets are located 20% in cash, 10% in jewelery and the rest ~70% is stock. Long term-investments are not on my radar yet as i don`t like waiting more than a week to actually see decent profit.

Jewelry? Do you deal in it?

I would prefer shorter-term transactions to boost my bank account, but it can be time consuming doing the due diligence for those kinds of deals. I'll get there eventually as my time frees up.

As i travel quite a lot, i usually buy jewelery from turkey or rip people off in some shitty -stan country and resell this stuff with a huge margin here in Europe. Also, i work in a bank where i can store some precious metal in form of bracelets and necklaces as an employee. In addition to that, i can also make stock transaction while i am at work, so that`s quite a benefit.

Damn, that's a good set-up. I wish work was more conducive to me doing that. How often do you travel to those places? I'm thinking of starting up more regular travel for myself, and the ability to snag some cash in the process would be nice.

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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2014, 07:53:23 pm »
So my assets are located 20% in cash, 10% in jewelery and the rest ~70% is stock. Long term-investments are not on my radar yet as i don`t like waiting more than a week to actually see decent profit.

Jewelry? Do you deal in it?

I would prefer shorter-term transactions to boost my bank account, but it can be time consuming doing the due diligence for those kinds of deals. I'll get there eventually as my time frees up.

As i travel quite a lot, i usually buy jewelery from turkey or rip people off in some shitty -stan country and resell this stuff with a huge margin here in Europe. Also, i work in a bank where i can store some precious metal in form of bracelets and necklaces as an employee. In addition to that, i can also make stock transaction while i am at work, so that`s quite a benefit.

Damn, that's a good set-up. I wish work was more conducive to me doing that. How often do you travel to those places? I'm thinking of starting up more regular travel for myself, and the ability to snag some cash in the process would be nice.

Usually around 6 times a year. But these are business trips.
Yeah the jewelery stuff really pays off. If you intend to do that make sure to not be too greedy and take too much of this stuff with you, as you may get problems with the customs (here it`s 10.000 € max, otherwise you`ll pay huge taxes on the goods).
Once, i got caught by the customs and had to pay a 4 grand fee just to pass...

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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2014, 08:27:14 pm »
So my assets are located 20% in cash, 10% in jewelery and the rest ~70% is stock. Long term-investments are not on my radar yet as i don`t like waiting more than a week to actually see decent profit.

Jewelry? Do you deal in it?

I would prefer shorter-term transactions to boost my bank account, but it can be time consuming doing the due diligence for those kinds of deals. I'll get there eventually as my time frees up.

As i travel quite a lot, i usually buy jewelery from turkey or rip people off in some shitty -stan country and resell this stuff with a huge margin here in Europe. Also, i work in a bank where i can store some precious metal in form of bracelets and necklaces as an employee. In addition to that, i can also make stock transaction while i am at work, so that`s quite a benefit.

Damn, that's a good set-up. I wish work was more conducive to me doing that. How often do you travel to those places? I'm thinking of starting up more regular travel for myself, and the ability to snag some cash in the process would be nice.

Usually around 6 times a year. But these are business trips.
Yeah the jewelery stuff really pays off. If you intend to do that make sure to not be too greedy and take too much of this stuff with you, as you may get problems with the customs (here it`s 10.000 € max, otherwise you`ll pay huge taxes on the goods).
Once, i got caught by the customs and had to pay a 4 grand fee just to pass...

I was just about to ask about customs. That makes sense.

Do you go to markets, seek these guys out online, stumble across it, etc?

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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2014, 08:41:35 pm »
So my assets are located 20% in cash, 10% in jewelery and the rest ~70% is stock. Long term-investments are not on my radar yet as i don`t like waiting more than a week to actually see decent profit.

Jewelry? Do you deal in it?

I would prefer shorter-term transactions to boost my bank account, but it can be time consuming doing the due diligence for those kinds of deals. I'll get there eventually as my time frees up.

As i travel quite a lot, i usually buy jewelery from turkey or rip people off in some shitty -stan country and resell this stuff with a huge margin here in Europe. Also, i work in a bank where i can store some precious metal in form of bracelets and necklaces as an employee. In addition to that, i can also make stock transaction while i am at work, so that`s quite a benefit.

Damn, that's a good set-up. I wish work was more conducive to me doing that. How often do you travel to those places? I'm thinking of starting up more regular travel for myself, and the ability to snag some cash in the process would be nice.

Usually around 6 times a year. But these are business trips.
Yeah the jewelery stuff really pays off. If you intend to do that make sure to not be too greedy and take too much of this stuff with you, as you may get problems with the customs (here it`s 10.000 € max, otherwise you`ll pay huge taxes on the goods).
Once, i got caught by the customs and had to pay a 4 grand fee just to pass...

I was just about to ask about customs. That makes sense.

Do you go to markets, seek these guys out online, stumble across it, etc?

At the beginning, i was looking for jewelery for my now ex-girlfriend in Tehran. I simply wandered the markets and found a lot of really, really cheap stuff. At the beginning i thought it was fake and bought it anyways. Turned out it was real gold and therefore surprisingly made a huge bargain. That's how it started.
Now I already have built up some local contacts who I visit occasionally when I'm there.
Online contacts in these regions are mostly useless and can't provide the amount or quality I need anyways.
And yes, I've got the necklace back from my ex as soon as we broke up :D

As far as i read, you're looking to make some good money. Got any plans yet?

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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2014, 09:54:18 pm »
So my assets are located 20% in cash, 10% in jewelery and the rest ~70% is stock. Long term-investments are not on my radar yet as i don`t like waiting more than a week to actually see decent profit.

Jewelry? Do you deal in it?

I would prefer shorter-term transactions to boost my bank account, but it can be time consuming doing the due diligence for those kinds of deals. I'll get there eventually as my time frees up.

As i travel quite a lot, i usually buy jewelery from turkey or rip people off in some shitty -stan country and resell this stuff with a huge margin here in Europe. Also, i work in a bank where i can store some precious metal in form of bracelets and necklaces as an employee. In addition to that, i can also make stock transaction while i am at work, so that`s quite a benefit.

Damn, that's a good set-up. I wish work was more conducive to me doing that. How often do you travel to those places? I'm thinking of starting up more regular travel for myself, and the ability to snag some cash in the process would be nice.

Usually around 6 times a year. But these are business trips.
Yeah the jewelery stuff really pays off. If you intend to do that make sure to not be too greedy and take too much of this stuff with you, as you may get problems with the customs (here it`s 10.000 € max, otherwise you`ll pay huge taxes on the goods).
Once, i got caught by the customs and had to pay a 4 grand fee just to pass...

I was just about to ask about customs. That makes sense.

Do you go to markets, seek these guys out online, stumble across it, etc?

At the beginning, i was looking for jewelery for my now ex-girlfriend in Tehran. I simply wandered the markets and found a lot of really, really cheap stuff. At the beginning i thought it was fake and bought it anyways. Turned out it was real gold and therefore surprisingly made a huge bargain. That's how it started.
Now I already have built up some local contacts who I visit occasionally when I'm there.
Online contacts in these regions are mostly useless and can't provide the amount or quality I need anyways.
And yes, I've got the necklace back from my ex as soon as we broke up :D

As far as i read, you're looking to make some good money. Got any plans yet?

Sorry to keep hitting you with questions, but this is fascinating. How is Tehran? I always hear it's incredibly modern and fairly friendly to Westerners.

I have a few start-ups in the work that I'm optimistic about. I know what is always said about failure rates, but they've weathered a few storms already so I believe the market validation exists.

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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2014, 04:29:35 pm »
So my assets are located 20% in cash, 10% in jewelery and the rest ~70% is stock. Long term-investments are not on my radar yet as i don`t like waiting more than a week to actually see decent profit.

Jewelry? Do you deal in it?

I would prefer shorter-term transactions to boost my bank account, but it can be time consuming doing the due diligence for those kinds of deals. I'll get there eventually as my time frees up.

As i travel quite a lot, i usually buy jewelery from turkey or rip people off in some shitty -stan country and resell this stuff with a huge margin here in Europe. Also, i work in a bank where i can store some precious metal in form of bracelets and necklaces as an employee. In addition to that, i can also make stock transaction while i am at work, so that`s quite a benefit.

Damn, that's a good set-up. I wish work was more conducive to me doing that. How often do you travel to those places? I'm thinking of starting up more regular travel for myself, and the ability to snag some cash in the process would be nice.

Usually around 6 times a year. But these are business trips.
Yeah the jewelery stuff really pays off. If you intend to do that make sure to not be too greedy and take too much of this stuff with you, as you may get problems with the customs (here it`s 10.000 € max, otherwise you`ll pay huge taxes on the goods).
Once, i got caught by the customs and had to pay a 4 grand fee just to pass...

I was just about to ask about customs. That makes sense.

Do you go to markets, seek these guys out online, stumble across it, etc?

At the beginning, i was looking for jewelery for my now ex-girlfriend in Tehran. I simply wandered the markets and found a lot of really, really cheap stuff. At the beginning i thought it was fake and bought it anyways. Turned out it was real gold and therefore surprisingly made a huge bargain. That's how it started.
Now I already have built up some local contacts who I visit occasionally when I'm there.
Online contacts in these regions are mostly useless and can't provide the amount or quality I need anyways.
And yes, I've got the necklace back from my ex as soon as we broke up :D

As far as i read, you're looking to make some good money. Got any plans yet?

Sorry to keep hitting you with questions, but this is fascinating. How is Tehran? I always hear it's incredibly modern and fairly friendly to Westerners.

I have a few start-ups in the work that I'm optimistic about. I know what is always said about failure rates, but they've weathered a few storms already so I believe the market validation exists.

No probs. Tehran is a beautiful city, the people are the kindest in the whole world, never experienced any trouble there, but that's probably mainly because me not being an american. Once, I've met an american business-partner there and he told me that he's basically always followed by the islamic police, reporting every islamic misconduction.

Follow you dream, buddy, everyone can make it nowadays just don't give up! By the way, if you need info about money laundering, hit me up!

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Re: How do you invest?
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2014, 04:40:01 pm »
Ammo.

When shit hits the fan, it'll be the only thing anyone cares about. Don't keep it all in one place though