Obama's ISIS strategy, thoughts?

[Bigggmann]

Hey everyone, Just curious what people think about foreign campaign on ISIS.

There seems to be A LOT of mixed views on everything that's going on.

I'd appreciate it if someone could sum up the situation for me, as I probably have some info wrong due to the MANY sources with different stories.

In all honesty, I have no clue why we are continuing our air strikes. They really don't pose us any threat, the only reason they abducted and beheaded our citizens was IMO cuz we were interfering with business we don't belong in. I think the other nations are being smart to stay out of the situation.
In my opinion, why wouldn't ISIS take American hostages, we bash them with airstrikes and sell cheap arms to Iraq's military In the billions. If we minded our own business, our citizens would still be alive.
I've heard some sources say America depends on Iraq and syria for oil, but after a quick multi source google search I've read that Saudi Arabia remains the top supplier, followed by Canada and other closer nations.

So why are we fighting ISIS? Do we just want to keep allowing ISIS to steal weapons from the military, then reselling Iraq weapons to make up for the blown up stolen goods? I'm really curious, I don't see any other way how airstrikes are profitable. I've read the airstrikes they use cost millions. One source even said the campaign is costing around 7.5 million a day (yes I realize that isn't really A LOT, but still considerable with how long we've been involved, and it is most likes higher then the number they release.)

Again, I only have a loose view on the subject, would appreciate clarification.

So what have you found so far:
Whats ISIS's goal?
Do you think Obama's plan is justified?
Do you think this campaign is designed just for military profits?
Nearly all the weapons used by ISIS are American or Russian, how does that make you feel?
Should we withdrawal from the middle east, and just continue to sell arms?
Do you really think ISIS is threatening us?

and most important, is all my information correct?

[Infinityshock]

the single most important factor concerning ISIS that must be kept in mind during any situational analysis:

ISIS is a western-created and -funded organization to promote an agenda that has nothing to do with their publicly stated goals

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abu bakr al baghdadi was trained in Jordan (proven fact) and possibly by the mossad there (unsubstantiated). Isis was trained in Jordan. Abu was incarcerated in Iraq for a while but was let go for unknown reasons and was initially denied to ahve been in "captivity" at all. Government in Iran in Shiite and STRONG shi'ite, hates Sunnis and wants to forge closer ties with Iran. For the time being, Al Maliki served his purpose.

Al Queda in Iraq->ISIS->IS

ISIS was trained in Jordan, funded for at least 2 years and taught how to finish off the wounded

Now, after beefing with other rebel groups as well as Bash, they took over HUGE swaths of Iraq, made way for Kurdistan to be set up (Israel and Turkey were the first two countries to recognize it) and the kurds are the most pro western people in the middle east. So now Kurdistan is a state, the Shi'ite have been slaughtered and divided, Iran doesn't know where the send military aid to, US has justification for the airstrikes on Syria they've always wanted and now that they've ramped up the rhetoric and propaganda against Russia, they don't have to placate Putin.

They just approved half a billion for the FSA who are hardcore islamists. Whoever said they were "moderate" is a liar or using an extreme scale. They want an islamic theocracy and Bashir Al Assad's alawites are seen as heretics. Alawites are basically polytheists which causes a lot of beef. Bash is basically secular and the only chance of stability in Syria. It's basically "yeah, he sucks...but somehow he's far and away leading the pack for Syrian leaders." Syria is bordering on failed state which is an absolute shame due to its history but overthrowing Bash the lion is just going to prevent it from ever improving.

So basically, the IS is controlled opposition that overstepped their bounds when they took the mosul dam and the US realized how ill equipped the peshmerga really were. A couple leaders of the Islamic front just died so if their leadership splinters they're gonna fail, hence the US moving in. The Islamic state was always being used as a pretext for invading syria

The Islamic State was always being used as a pretext for invading Syria

The Islamic State was always being used as a pretext for invading Syria

Nobody was happier to see a couple beheading videos on liveleak than obama. Now that's in the collective consciousness and Americans are pro air strikes and shit. Turkeys "chemical warfare" false flag wasn't convincing enough, now people see a white guy get his head cut off and shit their pants. This is called manufacturing consent, faggots. I could go on and on but whatever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI&list=UUEHsSWvrGVSIA63OV3J6vhA

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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forgot to mention ISIS getting BTFO by the FSA before their massive june offensive when they took all the US's old equipment and came back stronger than ever.

[Infinityshock]

not just syria.  any predominant muslim country that the west decides it wants to have free access into.

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forgot to mention ISIS successfully managed to get rid of sykes picot

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not just syria.  any predominant muslim country that the west decides it wants to have free access into.

shut the fuck up

what are you even trying to say

that was rhetorical, don't try to say it with more articulation, you already failed

[Soso0]

the single most important factor concerning ISIS that must be kept in mind during any situational analysis:

ISIS is a western-created and -funded organization to promote an agenda that has nothing to do with their publicly stated goals

Exactly! Once you figure that out then it's hard to believe most of what politicians have to say and you cannot see things the same way anymore. The goals they don't state are one's that will benefit those in power only.

His speech tonight was lame as hell. Especially the second half, I really hope no one bought into his lies of America being thriving and leading country. It's all BS. This country is dead and the only way to revive it would be to fight back against those in power.

[unbreakable matter]

holy shit, everyone ITT other than me is 14 years old and just read 1984

[Infinityshock]

not just syria.  any predominant muslim country that the west decides it wants to have free access into.

shut the fuck up

what are you even trying to say

that was rhetorical, don't try to say it with more articulation, you already failed

simmer down you festering little anal wart and re-read what i typed a little slower this time.  if your single functioning brain cell was firing properly you'd understand the simple concept.  there were no big words used.  any third grader would grasp the concept.  if you still need help, go down the hallway and knock on your mommys door to ask her guidance

[Soso0]

Forgot to mention that this whole ISIS thing will for sure lead to more of our rights being taken away for our 'safety'.

[fanglekai]

the single most important factor concerning ISIS that must be kept in mind during any situational analysis:

ISIS is a western-created and -funded organization to promote an agenda that has nothing to do with their publicly stated goals

Exactly! Once you figure that out then it's hard to believe most of what politicians have to say and you cannot see things the same way anymore. The goals they don't state are one's that will benefit those in power only.

His speech tonight was lame as hell. Especially the second half, I really hope no one bought into his lies of America being thriving and leading country. It's all BS. This country is dead and the only way to revive it would be to fight back against those in power.

just like reading a post from zok about changes....

[Infinityshock]

holy shit, everyone ITT other than me is 14 years old and just read 1984

then stop bothering the older kids and go back to the children your own age.  there is no shame in being the only 8 year only in your preschool class...one of these years youll pass so they dont have to hold you back again

the single most important factor concerning ISIS that must be kept in mind during any situational analysis:

ISIS is a western-created and -funded organization to promote an agenda that has nothing to do with their publicly stated goals

Exactly! Once you figure that out then it's hard to believe most of what politicians have to say and you cannot see things the same way anymore. The goals they don't state are one's that will benefit those in power only.

His speech tonight was lame as hell. Especially the second half, I really hope no one bought into his lies of America being thriving and leading country. It's all BS. This country is dead and the only way to revive it would be to fight back against those in power.

just like reading a post from zok about changes....

i wouldnt know.  ive never read one

the single most important factor concerning ISIS that must be kept in mind during any situational analysis:

ISIS is a western-created and -funded organization to promote an agenda that has nothing to do with their publicly stated goals

Exactly! Once you figure that out then it's hard to believe most of what politicians have to say and you cannot see things the same way anymore. The goals they don't state are one's that will benefit those in power only.

His speech tonight was lame as hell. Especially the second half, I really hope no one bought into his lies of America being thriving and leading country. It's all BS. This country is dead and the only way to revive it would be to fight back against those in power.

he isnt even mentally capable of writing the things he says.  someone in the background tells him what to say and do.

this country is due for a french-revolution-esque party.  politicians, lobbyist, and all other members of the corpocracy have  a date with the hangman

[unbreakable matter]

I'd like to administer an IQ test to idiotsynchronicity 

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how old are you infinityshock?