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Offline Slave of the Beast

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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #75 on: September 18, 2014, 10:36:01 pm »
How many sides does a sphere have?

Depends on the viewing resolution. :suspect:

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« Reply #76 on: September 18, 2014, 10:45:47 pm »
I wish that I caught this earlier

So instead, I'll just say no, reality is not alive.

If reality, which is right now,
always,
were alive, then that would mean the past is dead, and the future unborn.
Well, I certainly have called the past dead,
but metaphorically.
Perhaps I've even called this moment alive.

What organic matter makes it up?
Life refers to the response to stimuli and an innate utilization of systems of physical organic matter.
To be alive you have life.
I was about to say reality does not have life,
but I suppose it does,
I suppose it does.
Well done, sir
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« Reply #77 on: September 18, 2014, 10:47:38 pm »
 :suspect:

The guy is a faggot and I can't stand him but his channel is pretty cool.

 

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« Reply #78 on: September 18, 2014, 10:50:56 pm »
I wish that I caught this earlier

So instead, I'll just say no, reality is not alive.

If reality, which is right now,
always,
were alive, then that would mean the past is dead, and the future unborn.
Well, I certainly have called the past dead,
but metaphorically.
Perhaps I've even called this moment alive.

What organic matter makes it up?
Life refers to the response to stimuli and an innate utilization of systems of physical organic matter.
To be alive you have life.
I was about to say reality does not have life,
but I suppose it does,
I suppose it does.
Well done, sir
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Read The Langoliers by Stephen King or watch the horrible movie. Maybe you'll enjoy it.
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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #79 on: September 18, 2014, 11:10:32 pm »
Lanny, Obbe confirmed that his idea has nothing to do with drugs. Let's keep it on topic please.

Did Obbe PM you?

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« Reply #80 on: September 18, 2014, 11:25:34 pm »
Side is just a concept.  There is nothing separating one side from another.

Except for the fact that the sides are actually different, have different properties, and don't share identity by merit of the fact that we can even refer to the in the first place.

Only because you decided to define it that way.  What you think of as things that are different could be thought of as one.  There is nothing actually separating one side of a coin from a next. The sides of the coin run into each other, become each other.  Just as all the notes of a song become each other, flow into each other and become a song.  Just like inorganic matter can become what you define as alive, and what you define as alive can become  what you define as inorganic matter.
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« Reply #81 on: September 18, 2014, 11:36:48 pm »
Side is just a concept.  There is nothing separating one side from another.

Except for the fact that the sides are actually different, have different properties, and don't share identity by merit of the fact that we can even refer to the in the first place.

Only because you decided to define it that way.   What you think of as things that are different could be thought of as one.  There is nothing actually separating one side of a coin from a next. The sides of the coin run into each other, become each other.  Just as all the notes of a song become each other, flow into each other and become a song.  Just like inorganic matter can become what you define as alive, and what you define as alive can become  what you define as inorganic matter.

I don't think Lanny has any say in how the laws of physics work.

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« Reply #82 on: September 18, 2014, 11:41:12 pm »
So the sides don't become each other?  The parts of a song don't flow into each other?  There is nothing at all unifying life with death?
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« Reply #83 on: September 18, 2014, 11:46:06 pm »
So the sides don't become each other?  The parts of a song don't flow into each other?  There is nothing at all unifying life with death?

Yes, they are connected, but they remain distinct enitities.

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« Reply #84 on: September 18, 2014, 11:47:18 pm »
ITT: Assumptions.
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« Reply #85 on: September 18, 2014, 11:54:50 pm »
So the sides don't become each other?  The parts of a song don't flow into each other?  There is nothing at all unifying life with death?

Yes, they are connected, but they remain distinct enitities.

They might look different and be described differently but that doesn't mean they don't unite with each other, and their unification makes them one.
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« Reply #86 on: September 19, 2014, 12:10:55 am »
I'm always a little confused as to what I'm supposed to take away from an Obbe thread.

Putting aside the coin analogy for a second, say I accept that life and death are unified states, so what? It might be a nicer way of looking at it but it doesn't really change anything.

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« Reply #87 on: September 19, 2014, 12:28:32 am »
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They might look different and be described differently but that doesn't mean they don't unite with each other, and their unification makes them one.

Ah, so we're back to the point where you deny basically everything including logic because "all is one". This is where the discussion always dies because it's a stupid faith claim that can't be argued for and which can't even be coherently stated.

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« Reply #88 on: September 19, 2014, 12:30:33 am »
I'm always a little confused as to what I'm supposed to take away from an Obbe thread.

Putting aside the coin analogy for a second, say I accept that life and death are unified states, so what? It might be a nicer way of looking at it but it doesn't really change anything.

Looking at something in a different way can be refreshing, inspiring, and might  change a persons entire perspective.  But even if doesn't, so what?  It's just another point of view.  It doesn't hurt you.  Like you said, it doesn't change anything.  Except, maybe it does, for some people.

Some people go out and look at the stars at night.  And as they stare off into the great expanse they might feel somewhat insignificant.  All of this has been going on for billions of years before they were born, and will continue to go on after they have died.  But if they stare out at the expanse for long enough, they might just come to the realization that this great expanse is them.  Everything that is not you is the condition of you being yourself, just as the back is the condition of being the front.
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« Reply #89 on: September 19, 2014, 12:31:54 am »
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They might look different and be described differently but that doesn't mean they don't unite with each other, and their unification makes them one.

Ah, so we're back to the point where you deny basically everything including logic because "all is one". This is where the discussion always dies because it's a stupid faith claim that can't be argued for and which can't even be coherently stated.

How about instead of doing this, you actually put effort into creating an argument explaining how they do not unify.
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