Russia Vs Israel

[Cory]

you seem to be saying that in order to achieve supremacy in geo-politics, it is permissible to engage in something as heinous as the murder of innocents.

I'm not saying I approve of it necessarily, but you know the old sayings "Needs of the many/needs of the few", "ends justify the means".

[WAN]

you seem to be saying that in order to achieve supremacy in geo-politics, it is permissible to engage in something as heinous as the murder of innocents.

I'm not saying I approve of it necessarily, but you know the old sayings "Needs of the many/needs of the few", "ends justify the means".

So you are saying that you know murder is wrong, however when there are more people that MIGHT potentially be saved, it is ok to commit murder against other people, as long as they are fewer in number.

You are also condoning doing all manner of nasty things, as long as some sort of goal (of world governments) is achieved.

[Cory]

So you are saying that you know murder is wrong, however when there are more people that MIGHT potentially be saved, it is ok to commit murder against other people, as long as they are fewer in number.

You are also condoning doing all manner of nasty things, as long as some sort of goal (of world governments) is achieved.

Basically yeah. That's life for ya. People do what they think they have to to get ahead.

[WAN]

So you are saying that you know murder is wrong, however when there are more people that MIGHT potentially be saved, it is ok to commit murder against other people, as long as they are fewer in number.

You are also condoning doing all manner of nasty things, as long as some sort of goal (of world governments) is achieved.

Basically yeah. That's life for ya. People do what they think they have to to get ahead.

You are an evil person. 

You are a jew, right?

[starvingniglet]

So you are saying that you know murder is wrong, however when there are more people that MIGHT potentially be saved, it is ok to commit murder against other people, as long as they are fewer in number.

You are also condoning doing all manner of nasty things, as long as some sort of goal (of world governments) is achieved.

Yeah, Cory is pretty much a full blown leftist, and probably has a framed picture of joseph stalin next to where he sleeps.

[Cory]

I'm not a Jew and I don't have a picture of Stalin. I always considered myself of Trotskyist back in my Marxist days anyways.

And I'm not an evil person, that's just the way real life works.

[Lanny]

Yeah, Cory is pretty much a full blown leftist, and probably has a framed picture of joseph stalin next to where he sleeps.

Cory is the voice of reason in a forum populated by people who derive their politics from anecdotes and youtube clips.

[WAN]

I'm not a Jew and I don't have a picture of Stalin. I always considered myself of Trotskyist back in my Marxist days anyways.

And I'm not an evil person, that's just the way real life works.

You condone evil things done by governments to maintain their power.  This is evil.  You also condone murder.  This also makes you evil.

And also, just because murder is what world government covert operations do, it doesn't mean you should go along with them.  You should stand up to them.  I feel that you are committing naturalistic fallacy, in that, you look at what these government agents do (aka, murdering innocents), then you go and convince yourself that that is the way things ought to be.

[WAN]

Yeah, Cory is pretty much a full blown leftist, and probably has a framed picture of joseph stalin next to where he sleeps.

Cory is the voice of reason in a forum populated by people who derive their politics from anecdotes and youtube clips.

You only call cory "the voice of reason" because he's a fellow leftist whose worldviews coincide and conform with yours

[Lanny]

While it's true I agree with Cory's ideology most of the time I have to say that, in my experience, he presents the most well founded evidence based arguments of anyone who visits the politics board regardless of what's actually being argued for. Thus the "voice of reason" claim.

[Cory]

You condone evil things done by governments to maintain their power.  This is evil.  You also condone murder.  This also makes you evil.

And also, just because murder is what world government covert operations do, it doesn't mean you should go along with them.  You should stand up to them.  I feel that you are committing naturalistic fallacy, in that, you look at what these government agents do (aka, murdering innocents), then you go and convince yourself that that is the way things ought to be.

Well I guess you can continue being an idealist if you want.

[Ninja]

You Statist ball lickers will all get your throats slashed.

[Cory]

You Statist ball lickers will all get your throats slashed.

Deep.

[starvingniglet]

You only call cory "the voice of reason" because he's a fellow leftist whose worldviews coincide and conform with yours

This....aka confirmation bias

[starvingniglet]

And I'm not an evil person, that's just the way real life works.

Yeah, because real life works in socialist ways, the bolsheviks had to kill millions.  Can't have people thinking for themselves, it gets in the way of 'how real life works'. 

Your ideology is inhuman and evil.