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Carnality => Better Living Through Chemistry => Topic started by: Zero on October 07, 2014, 02:54:54 pm

Title: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Zero on October 07, 2014, 02:54:54 pm
God this stuff tastes like shit. So now what?
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: John Smith on October 07, 2014, 03:53:36 pm
Maybe I have a poor sense of taste/smell, but people complaining about the taste of nootropics/supplements/meds seem like such utter fucking pussies. The first time is the worst due to novelty, but I've tried a lot of things and it's never been even close to being bad enough that I wanted to gag, puke, or encapsulate them.

Now if it is the case that I'm not experiencing the full force of their taste, I apologize, but considering that the majority of the population can't seem to live without stuffing their fat faces with over sweetened treats, get off their ass and exercise, and are generally such utterly pathetic constant whiners, I doubt this is the case.

This is in oral indulgences and has little substance, so there, you have it coming.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 07, 2014, 04:00:27 pm
considering that the majority of the population can't seem to live without stuffing their fat faces with over sweetened treats, get off their ass and exercise, and are generally such utterly pathetic constant whiners, I doubt this is the case.

And you are such a shining paragon of humanity, aren't you?  Also, what the fuck do you know about the 'majority of the population', when you spend most of your time avoiding them? 
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: John Smith on October 07, 2014, 04:47:47 pm
I spend my time avoiding them for a reason. The reason I wear my fedora pulled low over my eyes when in public is so I don't have to look at you hideous uncultured poorly read plebian masses with sub 120 IQs. I am an example of the final evolution of a conscious being, who has attained enlightenment and seen through the futility of reality and transcended standard human existence.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 07, 2014, 04:49:58 pm
I spend my time avoiding them for a reason. The reason I wear my fedora pulled low over my eyes when in public is so I don't have to look at you hideous uncultured poorly read plebian masses with sub 120 IQs. I am an example of the final evolution of a conscious being, who has attained enlightenment and seen through the futility of reality and transcended standard human existence.

How's that working out for you, I mean honestly?
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Zero on October 07, 2014, 07:42:25 pm
Maybe I have a poor sense of taste/smell, but people complaining about the taste of nootropics/supplements/meds seem like such utter fucking pussies. The first time is the worst due to novelty, but I've tried a lot of things and it's never been even close to being bad enough that I wanted to gag, puke, or encapsulate them.

Now if it is the case that I'm not experiencing the full force of their taste, I apologize, but considering that the majority of the population can't seem to live without stuffing their fat faces with over sweetened treats, get off their ass and exercise, and are generally such utterly pathetic constant whiners, I doubt this is the case.

This is in oral indulgences and has little substance, so there, you have it coming.

3 paragraphs talking about taste. Can i have a reply from someone who isn't a complete Down's Sydrome? Tell me your experiences.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Arnox on October 07, 2014, 08:37:21 pm
Maybe you shouldn't have Down Syndrome yourself and realize this is in the wrong forum, hence John's reply.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Lanny on October 07, 2014, 08:37:29 pm
posted about this before in another thread but w/e, the tl;dr was that I didn't experience anything with piracetam. Even people who give positive reports generally say you have to be taking it regularly for a week or two before there are any noticeable effects.

Also malice is actually right, it doesn't taste particularly good but the level of complaining you see about it is pretty dumb.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Zero on October 07, 2014, 09:18:25 pm
Maybe you shouldn't have Down Syndrome yourself and realize this is in the wrong forum, hence John's reply.

Your shitty joke of a forum is being monitored by the FBI and thanks to me you've become a person of interest. Sharing child porn lately? LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Disgusting faggot, you-make-me-sick.

Go on, ban me. Soon as you do it, i win.

HA!
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Lanny on October 07, 2014, 09:19:30 pm
so much for this thread
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: John Smith on October 07, 2014, 10:41:41 pm
How's that working out for you, I mean honestly?

I know more than you can possibly understand.

You're on "The Sanctuary", a twice over totse refugee camp, how good could your life possibly be? I say we all throw as many stones as we want, take it light hearted, and stop bitching about it. Make it classy or amusing.

3 paragraphs talking about taste. Can i have a reply from someone who isn't a complete Down's Sydrome? Tell me your experiences.

Why does it matter? You should have read about it beforehand and anecdotes aren't worth much. If you want a  recommendation for pages on it: http://examine.com/supplements/Piracetam/

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Many studies note a high inter-individual variability

For me it seemed to increase verbal fluency, fluency with words, writing, and possibly an overall general benefit in ability to think, but significantly lowered my mood, which modafinil and armodafinil did as well, enough to make them non-options. The negative reaction is strange and uncommon, but I'm abnormal.

Generally it's been shown that the lower your IQ, the more you're being lowered below your optimal baseline by disorders or whatever is effecting you, the greater the benefit. For the healthy, at best the benefit has been shown to be pretty small, like, a 3 or 5% boost at most for some mental abilities, and even for the disordered it hasn't been that great. Placebo effect likely accounts for the large bulk of anecdotes reporting significantly positive experiences.

I became interested in nootropics a while ago, have read much, and tried many, let me give you some advice: Generally you aren't going to notice any significant effect. If they even have any measurable effect, they should be treated like vitamins and supplements, small parts that contribute to your health and performance. It sounds lame, but diet and lifestyle, exercise, really are by far the most significant things that will make a difference. Then there are habits, training mental ability, actually working your ability to read think and solve problems.

If you want a noticeable effect, you're going to have to try something harder, like subcutaneous semax injections, nicotine (yes, it can be a powerful nootropic: www.gwern.net/Nicotine), or something to effectively treat disorders you may have (depression, ADD, anxiety, schizophrenia, autism spectrum etc.). You probably aren't going to find a magic powder that will solve all your problems and make you who you want to be. I wanted to, but that's life, you're going to have to try harder than that.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 07, 2014, 11:17:29 pm
I know more than you can possibly understand.

Heh.  You know, you aren't the only smart person in the world.

You're on "The Sanctuary", a twice over totse refugee camp, how good could your life possibly be?

I tell you this:  If my life sucked I sure wouldn't be spending my copious leisure time on a computer.  I work maybe 2 hours a day, have extra money and time to sit on my ass and do nothing, and I have the best pets and kids a guy could ask for.

You are one of those people who think you are smarter and better than everyone else, and you think that other humans are nothing but moronic vermin only fit for extermination.  You watch as they live their clueless lives, and you hate every bit of it.  Yet those people that you despise, they are doing just fine.  They are mostly happy, have families and friends and careers, and live meaningful, productive lives.  Compare that with where you are now.  I think you know this somewhere deep inside, and it pisses you off, so you act like 'well humanity is garbage anyway, so I will just be misanthropic because it is a safe bet'.  There has to be something seriously wrong with you, if you choose the remote possibility of 'transhumanism' over a normal life filled with human experiences and social connections.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: John Smith on October 08, 2014, 12:41:03 am
Heh, relax dude, I was just just playing the fedora and wizard memes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=atheist+fedora&source=lnms&tbm=isch

https://www.google.com/search?q=virgin+age+meter

Most people are pretty horrible. Now, they'll probably help you if you're dying, maybe in less serious cases, although often in large part due to societal or ideological pressures, but those are pretty low bars. If you look at their beliefs and actions, particularly in social situations, it's horrendous. And they really don't tend to be very happy and fulfilled, generally, the vast majority of people don't like their jobs.

Regardless, as to transhumanism being a remote possibility, if you mean remote in terms of time as opposed to probability, it depends on what you mean by remote. It's something I've read and thought a lot about, and it's very possible that in a few decades there could be a full blown singularity. Trust me on this, unless there's a global prolonged economic collapse, things are going to be developed, people will be confronted with choices they'll have to make, and it's going to hit them like a train out of thin air. To the average person everything is science fiction until they can actually buy it or there's been a proof of concept showing it's applicable to them.

I could explain my view on the last line, but it would take too long right now. A single human experience is nothing compared what's possible, to the infinite, reality and the possibilities it holds. You live moment by moment, and then it's gone, whether or not people actually remember you, you won't have the conscious existed required to experience it, there's simply nothing.

If you had been born just one or two hundred years ago in a miserable industrial period, or even before then with subsistence farming, would you be satisfied with that? Exhausting work dawn to dusk, with a low average life expectancy, ineffective medicine often more likely to make things worse, mundane tasks being much more difficult and requiring more time etc.? I don't want more, I want everything.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 08, 2014, 12:46:29 am
I just have an issue with misanthropy borne out of elitism.  I especially hate the variation where europeans are all like 'Americans are all racist gun nut religious freaks' when they have never been out of their home country and if they had a chance, you know they would jump on a plane to the US in a second.  When I hear or read someone talking like 'people are all fat and stupid and they suck', I take issue with that, because most people really don't suck once one gets to know them.  Even the most redneck toothless southern hilljack will surprise you with their knowledge and experience if you hold a conversation with him.  Humans aren't a lost cause by any means, quite the opposite.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Lanny on October 08, 2014, 01:17:58 am
I just have an issue with misanthropy borne out of elitism.

I hope the irony is not lost on you here.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 08, 2014, 06:08:37 am
I just have an issue with misanthropy borne out of elitism.

I hope the irony is not lost on you here.

I am not a misanthrope, I just hate niggers and arabs and mexicans and eskimos and the irish.  Thats all.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Zero on October 08, 2014, 07:51:31 am
I just have an issue with misanthropy borne out of elitism.

I hope the irony is not lost on you here.

I am not a misanthrope, I just hate niggers and arabs and mexicans and eskimos and the irish.  Thats all.

Join me.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Zanick on October 08, 2014, 08:05:55 am
Next time have a tablespoon.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: splooge gook on October 08, 2014, 08:06:43 am
eat through a pound of it mixed with pixie sticks
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: komokazi on October 08, 2014, 09:28:23 pm
Hai guize, luk at me, u a sthoopit, i is the smart, u sux, fuk u.

Anyway, for people who haven't ravaged their brains with recreational substance abuse and a host of other poor choices, nootropics don't really cause a particularly-discernible difference, but for people who don't practice a healthy lifestyle/diet, they can be quite helpful when used dosed in the correct amount, frequency and understand how they are absorbed (water/fat solubility) and plan accordingly.

Combining nootropics (creating a "stack") is probably one of the most beneficial things you could do. Many of the options available on the market are molecular-ly similar, but, even the slightest difference in molecular structure can really make a difference in several . Many combinations are synergistic and will reduce dosage required to achieve the same effect(s). However, many don't perform sufficient research and will not use them properly and misdiagnose poor effectiveness. It is also cited that noticeable effects don't manifest for some because they cease administration when the effects are cumulative over a period of time.

For anyone who is interested in trying nootropics, what works for one person may not work for you, and what works for you may not work for someone else. You just have to try various options and weigh the pros and cons. However, I do highly recommend at least adding a choline source to your diet (either from natural sources or supplements). Choline is classified as an essential nutrient and can be found in eggs, chicken, cod (fish), broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, tofu, and more.

My personal regiment is pramiracetam, aniracetam, noopept, and choline bitartrate. In my experience, it is most certainly not placebo because the difference is clear-cut and currently make quite a difference for me.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: John Smith on October 09, 2014, 04:33:26 am
Careful with things that effect NGF. I remember with Lion's Mane they noted that itching was a common symptom after a while due to an increase of nerves growing in the skin. It's been reported with other nootropics, IIRC one user described it as feeling like he had splinters under his nails/fingertips, and can be really annoying if you're sensitive to it. It's particularly bad if you have insomnia or trouble falling asleep quickly, lying in bed will be probably be the time when you feel it the most and it can drive you insane/extremely stress you.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16210804

I don't know it if it's permanent, but if it is and your brain doesn't adapt to it, that would be pretty horrible.

I'd also recommend beef liver twice weekly, you only need around 50g. It's incredibly nutritious and has a ton of choline: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/05/real-food-vi-liver.html
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: STD on October 10, 2014, 09:07:11 am
Maybe I have a poor sense of taste/smell, but people complaining about the taste of nootropics/supplements/meds seem like such utter fucking pussies. The first time is the worst due to novelty, but I've tried a lot of things and it's never been even close to being bad enough that I wanted to gag, puke, or encapsulate them
Yeah this is my view, a pill others gag over and I'm there looking at why there's a room full of people with uncomfortable looking looks on their faces and glasses waters and I'm just saying "what?"
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Rizzo in a box on October 10, 2014, 09:49:28 am
Take it for three weeks and come back and ask this question.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Rizzo in a box on October 10, 2014, 11:01:10 am
Die in a fucking fire. Do you think anyone cares about Arnox's PI? No, we don't. We're coming for you next, faggot.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: theKit on October 10, 2014, 11:29:41 am
I keep reading this thread title as:

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Just swollowed a teaspoon of precum 

Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Rizzo in a box on October 10, 2014, 11:31:42 am
A teaspoon of precum ain't shit. Especially if you have a good diet.

I eat my own cum all the time...well, roughly as much as I ejaculate. That's some distilled nutrients right there. You eat your own snot, right? Sniff it up. Good lord. Half the people here inject fucking drugs. Are you really that disgusted by what you produce? Personally I think any man that isn't willing to eat his own shit shouldn't expect a woman to. It's just biological bullshit.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: theKit on October 10, 2014, 11:39:46 am
A teaspoon of precum ain't shit. Especially if you have a good diet.

I eat my own cum all the time...well, roughly as much as I ejaculate. That's some distilled nutrients right there. You eat your own snot, right? Sniff it up. Good lord. Half the people here inject fucking drugs. Are you really that disgusted by what you produce? Personally I think any man that isn't willing to eat his own shit shouldn't expect a woman to. It's just biological bullshit.

Way to read WAY too far into it brah.

Also, congratulations on being gay - Rizzo eats man jizz laff.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Rizzo in a box on October 10, 2014, 11:50:37 am
A teaspoon of precum ain't shit. Especially if you have a good diet.

I eat my own cum all the time...well, roughly as much as I ejaculate. That's some distilled nutrients right there. You eat your own snot, right? Sniff it up. Good lord. Half the people here inject fucking drugs. Are you really that disgusted by what you produce? Personally I think any man that isn't willing to eat his own shit shouldn't expect a woman to. It's just biological bullshit.

Way to read WAY too far into it brah.

Also, congratulations on being gay - Rizzo eats man jizz laff.

I eat my own jizz, and if I'm gay doesn't that make it less-than-man jizz? A-ha-ha. Fuck off prude. I turn down more pussy than you'll ever see in a year.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: starvingniglet on October 10, 2014, 12:07:33 pm
I eat my own jizz, and if I'm gay doesn't that make it less-than-man jizz? A-ha-ha. Fuck off prude. I turn down more pussy than you'll ever see in a year.

This is one of the most vile things I have ever read.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Rizzo in a box on October 10, 2014, 12:08:42 pm
I eat my own jizz, and if I'm gay doesn't that make it less-than-man jizz? A-ha-ha. Fuck off prude. I turn down more pussy than you'll ever see in a year.

This is one of the most vile things I have ever read.

You've been on the internet for how long?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D34AEXrabNc
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Rizzo in a box on October 10, 2014, 12:13:21 pm
Joke's on you, nigger. Nothing like a couple grams of piracetam with a load of your own jizz. Yarm. Especially if you've been eating a lot of honey. Ya' know, bitches like it when you taste good. And how can you tell if you taste good? Ah shiiiiet.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: starvingniglet on October 10, 2014, 12:14:05 pm
You've been on the internet for how long?

In real life I have seen mutilated flesh of animals suffering and in extremis, online I watch videos of cartel members having their genitals cut off and their head sawn off while alive; and animals being skinned and left to die...

And yes, the idea of some guy eating his own fluids is way grosser than any of that.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Rizzo in a box on October 10, 2014, 12:17:48 pm
You've been on the internet for how long?

In real life I have seen mutilated flesh of animals suffering and in extremis, online I watch videos of cartel members having their genitals cut off and their head sawn off while alive; and animals being skinned and left to die...

And yes, the idea of some guy eating his own fluids is way grosser than any of that.

Hahaha. I've been known to drink my own piss, once or twice. That really weirds you out more than all that gore?

You're that scared? Must mean you'd love a dick up your ass. Lol

Get your priorities straight, faggot.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: starvingniglet on October 10, 2014, 12:23:10 pm
Hahaha. I've been known to drink my own piss, once or twice. That really weirds you out more than all that gore?

You're that scared? Must mean you'd love a dick up your ass. Lol

Get your priorities straight, faggot.

I don't understand how me finding something disgusting means I secretly like it.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Rizzo in a box on October 10, 2014, 12:24:20 pm
Hahaha. I've been known to drink my own piss, once or twice. That really weirds you out more than all that gore?

You're that scared? Must mean you'd love a dick up your ass. Lol

Get your priorities straight, faggot.

I don't understand how me finding something disgusting means I secretly like it.

To think something disgusting is to have a passion for or against it...Homophobe.  ;)
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: starvingniglet on October 10, 2014, 01:18:32 pm
To think something disgusting is to have a passion for or against it...Homophobe.  ;)

Homophone
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: komokazi on October 10, 2014, 01:47:11 pm
Rizzo is trying to make it look like he's straight without denying the fact he eats jizz. It doesn't work like that, faggot.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: theKit on October 10, 2014, 08:40:59 pm
He should have been banned with his buttbuddy Infinity.
Dude drinks his own jizzums and has the nerve to call someone a faggot?  el oh el.
Not only a spamming troll but hard core closet homo. Can't get lower than that.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: John Smith on October 11, 2014, 01:36:57 am
Quit acting like you're still in highschool, retards. People did all sorts of fucked up shit on totse/early Zoklet and we applauded them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJLSTHDqQjQ

Look at that fucking abomination.

Brojock frat boys, douchebags who know either their size will intimidate people (almost always pick on the weak) or friends will jump in whenever they get into a fight and are even more annoying than flamboyant gays are.

Although I don't see a good reason for eating your own cum unless you like the taste and texture. The sustenance is insignificant.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: Lanny on October 11, 2014, 04:25:02 am
oh shit, I hadn't seen that before. New found respect for fubi.
Title: Re: Just swallowed a teaspoon of piracetam
Post by: splooge gook on October 16, 2014, 12:37:41 am
rizzo is a flaming flamingo