Ego => Head Shrinkers => Topic started by: Max Headroom on October 03, 2014, 05:09:37 pm
Title: Ego death
Post by: Max Headroom on October 03, 2014, 05:09:37 pm
I've only experienced ego death once, 3 years ago on DXM, and I don't remember what it felt like. I just want to be inwardly focused in an intense meditation session. I think green tea fasting is a good idea but idk
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Dionysus on October 07, 2014, 07:06:24 pm
It pisses me off when people throw around the word ego death as if it means anything. Temporary ego suspension might be a better term, but even then it is just another perception. Believe it or not, people tend to do better when they work to strengthen their ego into a fine work of art rather than (pretending) to toss it off because they can't stand the oppression of their own terminal mediocrity (see obbe)
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: RisiR on October 07, 2014, 07:24:31 pm
My ego is so big that Adolf Hitler could build a tower that represents his penis, climb up said megastructure and fly a kite there.
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Obbe on October 07, 2014, 07:58:03 pm
It pisses me off when people throw around the word ego death as if it means anything. Temporary ego suspension might be a better term, but even then it is just another perception. Believe it or not, people tend to do better when they work to strengthen their ego into a fine work of art rather than (pretending) to toss it off because they can't stand the oppression of their own terminal mediocrity (see obbe)
You don't really know anything about me.
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Dionysus on October 08, 2014, 03:02:02 am
It pisses me off when people throw around the word ego death as if it means anything. Temporary ego suspension might be a better term, but even then it is just another perception. Believe it or not, people tend to do better when they work to strengthen their ego into a fine work of art rather than (pretending) to toss it off because they can't stand the oppression of their own terminal mediocrity (see obbe)
You don't really know anything about me.
After years of reading post after post detailing your belief's, values and insights, I can safely make some general extrapolations as to what kind of person you are. You probably see yourself as some kind of zen gadfly, but your life outside of your metaphysical dabbling is profoundly average, except for a higher than usual consumption of psychedelic drugs. If it ended with that, it would be great. Do what you want, live how you want.
Since however you have pretensions to being some kind of half assed, youtube fed Bodhisattva, I think it is important for the sake of cosmic balance to contrast your profoundly nothing bullshit with some leveled contextualization. Don't take it personally though, I am sure that without that profound sounding mush-metaphysics to prop up your supposed non-ego, you would deflate like a balloon filled with hot air.
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Obbe on October 08, 2014, 03:14:05 am
Nope. I guess you're not very perceptive.
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Dionysus on October 08, 2014, 06:44:26 am
Kay
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Post by: Xlite on October 08, 2014, 07:12:25 am
I agree with dino guy.
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Post by: Vulture on October 08, 2014, 08:22:43 am
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Zanick on October 10, 2014, 07:06:09 am
Try meditating a lot, that helped when I did it last. It's easier to do a lot of drugs, but the pain in doing it sober will hurt you more and stay with you longer.
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Max Headroom on October 10, 2014, 07:16:50 am
Try meditating a lot, that helped when I did it last. It's easier to do a lot of drugs, but the pain in doing it sober will hurt you more and stay with you longer.
Eh, when I'm sober I get extremely suicidal, not depressed, anhedonic. The feeling of emptiness of being sober is less painful in a way than the feeling of dimensions, layers and colors from being jaded 24/7
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Rizzo in a box on October 10, 2014, 07:22:25 am
It pisses me off when people throw around the word ego death as if it means anything. Temporary ego suspension might be a better term, but even then it is just another perception. Believe it or not, people tend to do better when they work to strengthen their ego into a fine work of art rather than (pretending) to toss it off because they can't stand the oppression of their own terminal mediocrity (see obbe)
I hate to see people toss around any word or phrase like it means anything. In some cases, yes it can be a temporary suspension or transcendence, in some cases you are truly left without any fucking ego at all and left to do what Thou Will.
Ego Death is nothing to fucking sneer at. Indeed, "Ego death" is the only true Death at all.
Personally I have never been oppressed by mediocrity (except in the sense I might have feared I could succumb to it), only the extremes of incredible stupidity and pure white brilliance. I am not a man for settling in the middle, my moderation is a head-on battle of extremes, not some compromise...
Death to the ego! Long live the ego!
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when I'm sober I get extremely suicidal, not depressed, anhedonic. The feeling of emptiness of being sober is less painful in a way than the feeling of dimensions, layers and colors from being jaded 24/7
Hahahahahaha. I have been more sober than I have ever been in my life and I am so the opposite of any of that. Most of my drug use the past few years has been an attempt to calm myself the fuck down. Well, no more of that. I'm ready to fucking BURN.
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Rook on October 16, 2014, 08:01:02 am
When people say Ego death, I always get the idea in my head of someone being lobotomized. While I understand what people mean by breaking down the ego to live a more productive life, I still cant help to have a certain appreciation for passion.. even if it is sometimes wreckless, misguided, and.. even occasionally hurtful. It's the spice of life.
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Max Headroom on October 16, 2014, 04:42:08 pm
ego death pinnacle
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Rook on October 17, 2014, 05:53:11 am
I didnt get it... maybe the whole episode is needed to understand the context.. did they kill their ego and then all the mopy stuff was the result or something?
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Zanick on October 17, 2014, 06:14:47 am
When people say Ego death, I always get the idea in my head of someone being lobotomized. While I understand what people mean by breaking down the ego to live a more productive life, I still cant help to have a certain appreciation for passion.. even if it is sometimes wreckless, misguided, and.. even occasionally hurtful. It's the spice of life.
These are some understandable misconceptions that I'd like to clarify. Killing the ego, or suspending it temorarily, isn't achieved by supressing desire. Believe me, I'm as covetous as ever. Instead, it put me in touch with them in a metacognitive view, so that I can see them in conflict and understand how they relate to my happiness in the long term, as long as I choose to maintain a meditative state of mind. I was shown a way to tune in to the many vibrations operating within, rather than simply choosing the one in front of me. I never lost my passion, and one day, I'll become it.
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Ninja on October 17, 2014, 06:15:19 am
I've experienced ego death on DXM also.
People say I have a quiet confidence. I pretty much just leave it in the hands of the universe. There's this one quote from the Bible I really like... "And who of you by being worried can add a single hour to his life? And why are you worried about clothing? Observe how the lilies of the field grow; they do not toil nor do they spin, yet I say to you that not even Solomon in all his glory clothed himself like one of these..."
This is me. I don't worry about a thing. I've been through so much in my life that I know that no matter what happens, as long as I don't die, I'll be learning, growing and being beautiful. ;) And, if I do die... Level Up Bitches!
People spend their lives consumed with fear, regret, worry, false desires, shame, etc... This is the ego. But, the more time you spend on these things, the less time you have to spend on becoming a god.
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Rook on October 17, 2014, 06:33:40 am
I've overdosed on DXM once, as I documented clearly on &Z, and it was by far.. the worst and most miserable experience of my life. Needless to say I almost died, had an irregular heart beat for over a week.. nearly went insane due to my mind being literally fucked into near oblivion. And it all started with an upper respiratory infection.
It's almost hard to still think about it without feeling some sense of dread. But what I can re-collect is a complete absence of feeling for anything, devoid of all happiness, any perception that what I seen before me mattered.. or that it was even real. I can still remember sitting in the car during my first trip out of the house after the experience, and everything just seemed so... fake, almost as if it were made of paper.. flat... bleak.
With that said, I really don't think I understand the concept of ego death. Or I have been unintentionally relating it to an experience that was in no way similar.
And for the record.. DXM is not something you want to fuck with, and its incredibly dangerous.. You can have permanent visual damage, psychosis, serotonin syndrome, etc.. I knew I was screwed when I turned off the lights and the walls lit up with neon colored numbers scrolling erratically outward. I would have been fine till I felt my whole body go cold.. I advise people not to do it, even though people are obviously going to do whatever they want.. just always like to offer a word of precaution.
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Zanick on October 18, 2014, 02:25:58 am
DXM isn't so horrible. Just remain aware that it's a real drug with powerful psychedelic effects that are not to be taken lightly with consequences that can cause lasting damage when treated otherwise. Ignorant users might still never run into trouble. I don't think I've had ego death from it before,, but I have experienced serotonin syndrome from dosing while on an SSRI and it was hell with a four day hangover.
Title: Re: Ego death
Post by: Max Headroom on October 19, 2014, 09:05:23 am
Yesternight, tomorningwas the best hard days night of life. In itself. Patterns, bullshit, delusions, but when theres nothing left to analyze everything is the end of the beginning of the beginning of the end of the