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Site Discussion => Help & Suggestions => Topic started by: Arnox on June 11, 2014, 01:30:17 am

Title: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on June 11, 2014, 01:30:17 am
Alright guys, it's time for a little expansion. We need to get the word out that we exist. Let's compile all our ideas here on how to best do this.

BTW, yes, Google has already been crawling the site. I took care of that.

Now, I was originally gonna try some subtle advertising on Reddit but a couple people didn't like this for reasons I forget.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: oppenheimmer on June 11, 2014, 01:42:22 am
sex
wight are wed addresses on sexy girls and post them across the wed ??

any one else think Arnox was selling out and putting add's up?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Infinityshock on June 11, 2014, 01:47:45 am
have hazza tattoo the site addy on his body then go on a nekkid shooting spree

oh...wait...he cant because the slaves arent allowed to own firearms

you could find some other volunteer to do something along those lines.  plenty of publicity when their web-surfing habits come up
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on June 11, 2014, 03:29:10 am
blah blah blah Hazza's stoopid

You need to cut down on this crap in Site Discussion or else I'm gonna start making things more strict in this section. It's getting really old and my jimmies are starting to get rustled.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Infinityshock on June 11, 2014, 09:38:07 am
Its a brilliant suggestion and your lack of foresight doesnt diminish its brilliance

Youre too uptight.  If you feel as if there is an excess of sand in your vagiina find a firehose and cleanse yourself.  It does wonders on fixing that severe feminine itch and burning sensation.

Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Hex535 on June 12, 2014, 01:53:38 pm
Bumping this thread cause this is the one we wanted PeskyBear To post his information about google bombing and site promotion.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on June 14, 2014, 02:14:29 am
Alright then. I've done a little digging and apparently, sources unanimously say the best way to do SEO is actually very, very simple.

Have good and relevant content.

Links to and from the forum also help too. So this makes things relatively simple and at the same time, rather difficult. Now, if anyone would like to help out in promoting the site, be sure to link this site everywhere you can. I will also start posting some more threads in general. Here's the thing though, I can't do this job all by myself. We'll need everyone to pitch in as much as possible in getting good content to the forums. I'll do my best to start linking the site as much as possible.

I'm also seriously thinking about starting up contests for custom user titles again as well.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Idiosyncrasy on September 10, 2014, 10:18:19 pm
*Sees thread sticky* Hey do we still need to advertise?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on September 10, 2014, 10:38:03 pm
*Sees thread sticky* Hey do we still need to advertise?

Not quite yet. Let's get everything stabilized first before we start reaching out. Why, did you have something in mind?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Idiosyncrasy on September 10, 2014, 10:45:40 pm
Not really anything in mind.  Like you said, SEO is just good quality content.  Think about your target market, and use a lot of keywords and phrases that people might search for that could lead them to your product.  Thread tags help a bit, but I'm not sure if we have those here.

Totse2 had two threads that drew a lot of outside attention.  One was the how to make a homemade bomb thread, which I posted here.  That one even got us a two-second mention briefly on CNN.  The second was the SNB meth article, that blew up with comments and had literally a million page views before it was removed.  We saw how that worked out for us.

With the activity we have now, we just need to encourage people to contribute some quality content.  You can throw money at Adwords and the like, but none of it will matter without having the content already here.  When people monetize blogs and have a big following, they start out talking to themselves a lot.  Then they slowly build a following.  Then they have exponential growth, and then they monetize.  Not saying that's what we want to do here, but it starts with the content.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Spectre on September 10, 2014, 11:20:39 pm
I wouldn't go advertising much of anything when there are still parts of the day with CP getting spammed across the board that's the wrong thing to accidentally have someone link to
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Rizzo in a box on September 11, 2014, 03:47:43 am
Not really anything in mind.  Like you said, SEO is just good quality content.  Think about your target market, and use a lot of keywords and phrases that people might search for that could lead them to your product.  Thread tags help a bit, but I'm not sure if we have those here.

Totse2 had two threads that drew a lot of outside attention.  One was the how to make a homemade bomb thread, which I posted here.  That one even got us a two-second mention briefly on CNN.  The second was the SNB meth article, that blew up with comments and had literally a million page views before it was removed.  We saw how that worked out for us.

With the activity we have now, we just need to encourage people to contribute some quality content.  You can throw money at Adwords and the like, but none of it will matter without having the content already here.  When people monetize blogs and have a big following, they start out talking to themselves a lot.  Then they slowly build a following.  Then they have exponential growth, and then they monetize.  Not saying that's what we want to do here, but it starts with the content.

Oh shit, that reminds me, I need to work on the "Guide to Not Shit Posting". Having content is good; teaching people how to create new content (and do it in an SEO friendly way) is better.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: SupremeGentleman on September 14, 2014, 08:28:58 am
Rather than adverts, why not set up a PayPal and some of us can chip in for running coats?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on September 16, 2014, 07:19:30 am
Rather than adverts, why not set up a PayPal and some of us can chip in for running coats?

Sorry for the very late reply.

Isn't that how Zoklet had his PI leaked?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: SupremeGentleman on September 16, 2014, 08:24:23 am
Not sure, was an &T member but just lurked zoklet. If something safe could be set up I'd chip in..
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Rizzo in a box on September 25, 2014, 09:41:45 am
Rather than adverts, why not set up a PayPal and some of us can chip in for running coats?

How about a patreon?

Also I have some ideas I've mentioned briefly in other threads about networking with other free-speech centered boards and creating a meta-community, particularly with 8chan...and I still need to work on the "not shit posting guide"...maybe ill work on that now.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: burroughs on October 01, 2014, 12:44:29 am
It's kind of a chicken and egg scenario where we want knowledgeable users to write good content but they won't join because there's not a lot of good content to begin with.

I always thought that totse-esque sites should offer some kind of freely available service in addition to hosting a community. Something simple and privacy / free speech related that's useful to the every-day user. A privnote clone, a simple proxy, or even something bitcoin related. Give lots of like-minded people a reason to use the site and they'll discover the community later.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on October 01, 2014, 01:09:28 am
It's kind of a chicken and egg scenario where we want knowledgeable users to write good content but they won't join because there's not a lot of good content to begin with.

I always thought that totse-esque sites should offer some kind of freely available service in addition to hosting a community. Something simple and privacy / free speech related that's useful to the every-day user. A privnote clone, a simple proxy, or even something bitcoin related. Give lots of like-minded people a reason to use the site and they'll discover the community later.

I like this idea but I can't think of a service at the moment that would really set us apart from all the others. (Or maybe I'm just being lazy right now.)
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: equanimity on October 01, 2014, 01:24:29 am
Can we pool our resources and buy a Superbowl ad? :P
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Idiosyncrasy on October 01, 2014, 04:37:33 am
It's kind of a chicken and egg scenario where we want knowledgeable users to write good content but they won't join because there's not a lot of good content to begin with.

I always thought that totse-esque sites should offer some kind of freely available service in addition to hosting a community. Something simple and privacy / free speech related that's useful to the every-day user. A privnote clone, a simple proxy, or even something bitcoin related. Give lots of like-minded people a reason to use the site and they'll discover the community later.

You do have a point. Of course the text-file days are gone as the internet and technology have evolved, but I'd say the majority of us found totse through the text-files and then the community forums at a later time. I spent months on the text-files before finding the forum, and at that point it was the original service of the text-files that kept us bonded, qualified our thinking, and really formed our foundation.

Like you guys said, that type of service is hard to match.

Food for thought: all-text services are on their way out. Sure, we like to discuss with text, but as evident even by the new style of posting that spits in the eyes of our more seasoned posters who remember the days of a well- formed and complete thought, it's all about quick and flashy. Images. Videos. That's why the more popular up-and-coming sites all share media with peers, and text is an afterthought. News sites are integrating more and more video. It could be the declining attention spans of the newer generations, or perhaps the myriad of vices vying for our focus and attention, but times are changing. And of course, the only constant thing is change.

I'm not sure where to go from there, but one day we may want to consider what our primary service needs to be for a sustainable future.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Ninja on October 01, 2014, 05:33:25 am
Just advertise some sort of free porn shit.  But, make it so they have to install a program so you gain access to their bank account and shit.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on October 05, 2014, 07:07:50 pm
Bump. Now, that we have more staff, we can finally begin to expand out.

Right now, this is our new primary goal. AdWords looks promising but I'll see about that later. If anyone has any other ideas, I'd love to hear them.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: zok jr. on October 05, 2014, 07:22:16 pm
Make stickers and stick them all over in urban/seedy areas
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Suicidal Fish on October 05, 2014, 07:52:50 pm
The back Of Toilet Doors may help.

But just post on Reddit, create a Facebook etc
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: equanimity on October 05, 2014, 08:20:02 pm
Blogs are in.  Some websites I visit (mostly nutrition forums) seem to pull in new people almost exclusively through their blogs discussing things like exercise, green living, fun recipes, etc.

Dunno how to translate and of that into something that works here, though.  Maybe everyone interested could submit post in a blog sort of style and Arnox could pick ones he likes every so often to be the main page here.  Or something.  The topics would be all over the place and there could be lots of different contributors.

Not too sure how people stumble onto blogs in the first place, so who knows if this would even help.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Suicidal Fish on October 05, 2014, 08:24:26 pm
The fact is there is a massive base of people that want to be on forums but went elsewhere when Zoklet went down.

They just need to be convinced this can be a place to come but we need more members.Pronto
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Umbrella Corp on October 05, 2014, 08:35:55 pm
hate ads
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: SBTlauien on October 05, 2014, 09:09:50 pm
Spam.  Let's build a robot that spams other forums with links back to this site.  DDoS other forums.  Shit post other forums.

It could work...
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: constantinople on October 05, 2014, 09:42:21 pm
I don't want anyone to know I exist what the fuck is wrong with you OP?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on October 06, 2014, 04:50:55 am
Make stickers and stick them all over in urban/seedy areas

Heh, actually, a long time ago, a suggestion for advertising totse2 was to stealthily drop business cards with the sites name in random places. I kinda liked that idea.

But just post on Reddit, create a Facebook etc

We may very well have to. We right now have a Facebook and Twitter account for the site. I posted something on Reddit once but I suck at Reddit so naturally it didn't go anywhere at all.

Blogs are in.  Some websites I visit (mostly nutrition forums) seem to pull in new people almost exclusively through their blogs discussing things like exercise, green living, fun recipes, etc.

Dunno how to translate and of that into something that works here, though.  Maybe everyone interested could submit post in a blog sort of style and Arnox could pick ones he likes every so often to be the main page here.  Or something.  The topics would be all over the place and there could be lots of different contributors.

Not too sure how people stumble onto blogs in the first place, so who knows if this would even help.  Just a thought.

I'll keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Vulture on October 06, 2014, 05:29:45 am
Spoiler
Blogs are in.  Some websites I visit (mostly nutrition forums) seem to pull in new people almost exclusively through their blogs discussing things like exercise, green living, fun recipes, etc.

Dunno how to translate and of that into something that works here, though.  Maybe everyone interested could submit post in a blog sort of style and Arnox could pick ones he likes every so often to be the main page here.  Or something.  The topics would be all over the place and there could be lots of different contributors.

Not too sure how people stumble onto blogs in the first place, so who knows if this would even help.  Just a thought.
Just replace text files (zoklet library rehash) with blog posts?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: DaGuru on October 06, 2014, 12:36:57 pm
Arnox.....you might be thinking this is a continuation of me harping on your decision to make Zek a mod, but at the same time if you want to actually start advertising more....wouldn't it make more sense to have stronger respresentatives of what this place is "about"? Meaning, its seems like you are sending a conflicting message to people that will eventually discover this place when your supposed "leaders" are actually the anti-thesis of a lot of the subject matter you are trying to attract people to.

Taken from "what the site is about thread".....

It doesn't matter if you like music, it doesn't matter if you like demolitions, it doesn't matter if you like games, doesn't matter if you like sports or swearing or drugs or even pirating. This forum has what you need.

Now ask yourself if really and sincerely the people you have decided to be "leaders" on here actually believe in or even enjoy a lot of the subject matter you just rattled off above. Because if your staff is constantly preaching a mindset of "guns are bad m'kay"....or "can't we talk in a nicer/more civil manner".....that is directly contrary to people that want to swear, talk about demolitions/weapons etc.

Its like making Mary Poppins as the greeter/receptionist in a brothel as the first contact point when someone walks into the establishment. How many tricks you really gonna turn when the staff itself isn't even eager or encouraging to the product you are selling?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Vulture on October 06, 2014, 01:08:09 pm
Quote from: DaGuru
continuation of me harping
Reban DaGuru plz.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on October 06, 2014, 01:30:38 pm
Arnox.....you might be thinking this is a continuation of me harping on your decision to make Zek a mod, but at the same time if you want to actually start advertising more....wouldn't it make more sense to have stronger respresentatives of what this place is "about"? Meaning, its seems like you are sending a conflicting message to people that will eventually discover this place when your supposed "leaders" are actually the anti-thesis of a lot of the subject matter you are trying to attract people to.

Taken from "what the site is about thread".....

It doesn't matter if you like music, it doesn't matter if you like demolitions, it doesn't matter if you like games, doesn't matter if you like sports or swearing or drugs or even pirating. This forum has what you need.

Now ask yourself if really and sincerely the people you have decided to be "leaders" on here actually believe in or even enjoy a lot of the subject matter you just rattled off above. Because if your staff is constantly preaching a mindset of "guns are bad m'kay"....or "can't we talk in a nicer/more civil manner".....that is directly contrary to people that want to swear, talk about demolitions/weapons etc.

Its like making Mary Poppins as the greeter/receptionist in a brothel as the first contact point when someone walks into the establishment. How many tricks you really gonna turn when the staff itself isn't even eager or encouraging to the product you are selling?

Equanimity is really the only "Mary Poppins" on staff. In fact, I daresay she's the only "Mary Poppins" on this entire forum. Nevertheless, she believes in the right to talk about all those things and I do believe she's stated this numerous times as well.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: DaGuru on October 06, 2014, 01:32:14 pm

Reban DaGuru plz.

Awwwwww...what's the matter, because I bring actual real world business sense into the equation....and not just spewing feel good mantras to appease the heartstrings of immature children, your wittle feelings a bit hurt? Sorry kidiot, but unless you apply realistic practical applications to whatever you are trying to sell, all the empty prattle someone spews won't have much effect to whatever your target audience/consumer you are trying to attract.

That ain't just "business" sense, instead COMMON SENSE....at least for someone that can see  a bigger picture beyond 10 feet in front of their face and for longer than 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: DaGuru on October 06, 2014, 01:39:38 pm


Equanimity is really the only "Mary Poppins" on staff. In fact, I daresay she's the only "Mary Poppins" on this entire forum. Nevertheless, she believes in the right to talk about all those things and I do believe she's stated this numerous times as well.

Believing in the right to discuss things is a bit empty when said person is constantly dishing out petty moral(term used very loosely considering this is Zek we are talking about) judgements to the other people that ARE interested in those subject matters.

Going back to the Mary Poppins/brothel scenario, sure he may be "doing his job" greeting everyone with a false smile....but if 5 seconds later he is  questioning potential clients with ideologies of "does your wife know you are in here"...or..."ya know promiscuous sex leads to AIDS and other STDs"...how many people will actually believe they "fit in" to such an establishment and give it their business?

Also, when you try to minimize it with verbiage of..."only member here"....you are brushing over the fact how frequent Zek is here, along with how insistent Zek seems to be part of MOST of the conversations. Even ones he has zero interest or knowledge about. Kinda like a horsefly buzzing around everyone while they are trying to enjoy a picnic, it may seem minimal...but still IS a deterrent and annoyance to the rest of everyone else's experience.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on October 06, 2014, 02:08:02 pm


Equanimity is really the only "Mary Poppins" on staff. In fact, I daresay she's the only "Mary Poppins" on this entire forum. Nevertheless, she believes in the right to talk about all those things and I do believe she's stated this numerous times as well.

Believing in the right to discuss things is a bit empty when said person is constantly dishing out petty moral(term used very loosely considering this is Zek we are talking about) judgements to the other people that ARE interested in those subject matters.

Going back to the Mary Poppins/brothel scenario, sure he may be "doing his job" greeting everyone with a false smile....but if 5 seconds later he is  questioning potential clients with ideologies of "does your wife know you are in here"...or..."ya know promiscuous sex leads to AIDS and other STDs"...how many people will actually believe they "fit in" to such an establishment and give it their business?

How do those viewpoints clash with this establishment? You're saying that these viewpoints may drive off some people. Well, you know, if they're driven off simply by the opinions of one person, I don't think we want them here. This site is partly about broadening ones horizons. Gaining new perspectives. She isn't spamming every thread she finds with "OMG be good guise!!!111 ^^ :D"
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: DaGuru on October 06, 2014, 03:08:38 pm

How do those viewpoints clash with this establishment? You're saying that these viewpoints may drive off some people. Well, you know, if they're driven off simply by the opinions of one person, I don't think we want them here. This site is partly about broadening ones horizons. Gaining new perspectives. She isn't spamming every thread she finds with "OMG be good guise!!!111 ^^ :D"

*sigh*

You still aren't getting the bigger picture here. While discussing the requisites of someone being modded, you make a few grandiose commentaries about "professionalism" and "leadership". But then when someone brings up the specific characteristics of that "leader" and how it very much CAN set a vibe/pulse for the forum you just dismiss it off as "who cares, its just one poster".

Either you really can't understand this concept, or purposely ignoring the obvious....whatever the case I'll stop commenting on your "advertising" issues, because at this point you seem to be so set on digging your heels in you aren't even thinking this all the way through from top to bottom.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Spectre on October 06, 2014, 03:31:02 pm

How do those viewpoints clash with this establishment? You're saying that these viewpoints may drive off some people. Well, you know, if they're driven off simply by the opinions of one person, I don't think we want them here. This site is partly about broadening ones horizons. Gaining new perspectives. She isn't spamming every thread she finds with "OMG be good guise!!!111 ^^ :D"

*sigh*

You still aren't getting the bigger picture here. While discussing the requisites of someone being modded, you make a few grandiose commentaries about "professionalism" and "leadership". But then when someone brings up the specific characteristics of that "leader" and how it very much CAN set a vibe/pulse for the forum you just dismiss it off as "who cares, its just one poster".

Either you really can't understand this concept, or purposely ignoring the obvious....whatever the case I'll stop commenting on your "advertising" issues, because at this point you seem to be so set on digging your heels in you aren't even thinking this all the way through from top to bottom.

that is what he does as I've said from the beginning he has a piss poor dismissive attitude and is incapable of critical thinking
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: equanimity on October 06, 2014, 03:33:30 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/3sYVsYf.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/15gVWnp.jpg)
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: equanimity on October 06, 2014, 03:36:55 pm
Now please, let's get this thread back on track.  DaGuru if you want to complain some more please take it to the proper forum.  This thread is about advertising the website; it's not about me.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Spectre on October 06, 2014, 03:40:07 pm
Now please, let's get this thread back on track.  DaGuru if you want to complain some more please take it to the proper forum.  This thread is about advertising the website; it's not about me.

however his posts are more on topic than your image trash he's stating how it's hard to push advertisement when the site doesn't have a unified message or representation maybe you should take your pictures somewhere else and practice reading comprehension
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: equanimity on October 06, 2014, 03:44:48 pm
A mission statement may help us out, yes.  At least it could provide us some general direction.  Very good, DaGuru.

Any suggestions as to what this should be?  I'm partial to the whole "expression of varying, sometimes unpopular, opinions" bit.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Spectre on October 06, 2014, 03:47:15 pm
A mission statement may help us out, yes.  At least it could provide us some general direction.  Very good, DaGuru.

Any suggestions as to what this should be?  I'm partial to the whole "expression of varying, sometimes unpopular, opinions" bit.

the site has a mission statement the site doesn't have a good representative front in the leadership department AKA the Admin and mods such as yourself again is the point DaGuru brings up you people represent the site and all you do is muddy the message of free speech and not make an environment conducive to discussion
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on October 06, 2014, 03:49:10 pm
You still aren't getting the bigger picture here. While discussing the requisites of someone being modded, you make a few grandiose commentaries about "professionalism" and "leadership". But then when someone brings up the specific characteristics of that "leader" and how it very much CAN set a vibe/pulse for the forum you just dismiss it off as "who cares, its just one poster".

The only vibe I see equanimity truly giving off is one of kindness and understanding and I didn't know that is a bad precedent.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: equanimity on October 06, 2014, 03:52:42 pm
A mission statement may help us out, yes.  At least it could provide us some general direction.  Very good, DaGuru.

Any suggestions as to what this should be?  I'm partial to the whole "expression of varying, sometimes unpopular, opinions" bit.

the site has a mission statement the site doesn't have a good representative front in the leadership department AKA the Admin and mods such as yourself again is the point DaGuru brings up you people represent the site and all you do is muddy the message of free speech and not make an environment conducive to discussion

Alright.  So keeping in mind that the mods currently in place are here to stay until Arnox says otherwise, and Arnox himself is not going anywhere, what do you propose we do from here?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Spectre on October 06, 2014, 04:08:17 pm
This is where we go the mod situation needs to be addressed it can't go from there in all reality
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: mizled on October 06, 2014, 04:28:08 pm
Best bet to increase the membership would be to find a similar site with the same type of member, dox the owner, then profit!

..or would that be unoriginal?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: splooge gook on October 06, 2014, 04:41:57 pm
a good start for advertising would be some sort of logo or banner. what's going to be the aesthetic value of this site to an unfamiliar person?

the word "SANCTUARY" in big block letters at the top on an outdated BBS system with a forum skin that made the userbase go blind for a week?

remember how pissed off everyone was at at the incomprehensibility of this forum layout when we first migrated? none of that has changed, we just decided to bear through it because we know of the site's history, nobody else does.

youtube videos that are actually worth watching and produced by a member of this website could pique interest. as could an attractive, ambiguous logo to spread around (think OBEY but less faggotry)
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: splooge gook on October 06, 2014, 04:44:21 pm
implementing a thanks system could improve the "community" aspect of this forum and make it seem more agreeable. on the downside this would also increase circlejerking
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: splooge gook on October 06, 2014, 05:08:03 pm
If that doesn't become the banner I'm going to literally beat the shit out of my dad over a cup of coffee and write a hillbilly tweaker saga on it.

Yeah it's "omg offennsivvvve", but it's a testament to our dedication to free speech. Anyone who spends 5 seconds on the website will immediately get the joke or have a hilarious-in-extent-of tardrage.

Yeah it's slightly confusing and esoteric. This will exclude people with IQs of 69 from going "lol yeah i hate niggers n muslims i dunno what the rest said" and then registering.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 06, 2014, 05:17:23 pm
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

Best post in this whole fucking thread.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: splooge gook on October 06, 2014, 06:10:50 pm
A mod deleted my banner and gave me a warning
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 06, 2014, 06:12:12 pm
A mod deleted my banner and gave me a warning

That is fucked up....why and who?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: splooge gook on October 06, 2014, 06:17:37 pm
A mod deleted my banner and gave me a warning

That is fucked up....why and who?

(http://i.imgur.com/4lacdfp.png)

Well I recieved this post from an anonymous admin who was too scared to question my reign over them on their real account. the obnoxious and contrived use of faggot smilies leads me to assume it's (emphasis on it) Zek.

zek didn't even delete the post describing the merits of my banner, which was three paragraphs long. it just deleted the banners. rendering the post into reference-less nonsense that is three paragraphs long

do tranny IQs get measured against a different mean like the small quantitative difference in male and females that isn't compared to one another, meaning different scoring curves for each gender. i cant imagine something that is neither a man or woman but simply a "thing" to possibly have more than three standard deviations above the mean to be equivalent to a human IQ of 145 but more likely hovering into negative numbers.

You guys do know it is mathematically possible to have an IQ that is a negative number? that never happens because the person would need to be negative 6.3 sigma (it's actually 6.6666666... but i didnt want you to think i'm making a biblical illusion) which would be like a 1 in 90 billion rarity. this may one day occur in future generations, but it definitely has never occurred for stupid people, because so many children are born still to this day unable to live outside of a group home, or are stillborn. there is a floor effect for human intelligence that is already apparent and there may be ceiling effects (before we evolve into our next species....well we're all constantly evolving, but it may go to the point where it would be physically impossible to be any more intelligent because of the taxation on your bodily energy preserves it does. i think someone did the math and hypothesized the 1 in 90 billion brain would literally have to be the size of the moon to operate at that level. but anyway, you could have an IQ of -150 if so many humans weren't brain dead already
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 06, 2014, 06:20:19 pm
A mod deleted my banner and gave me a warning

That is fucked up....why and who?

(http://i.imgur.com/4lacdfp.png)

Well I recieved this post from an anonymous admin who was too scared to question my reign over them on their real account. the obnoxious and contrived use of faggot smilies leads me to assume it's (emphasis on it) Zek.

zek didn't even delete the post describing the merits of my banner, which was three paragraphs long. it just deleted the banners.

See, they bitch about how we don't contribute, then they pull shit like this when we do.  Fuck it, I will shitpost into the sunset up in this motherfucker.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: DaGuru on October 06, 2014, 06:27:01 pm
Now please, let's get this thread back on track.  DaGuru if you want to complain some more please take it to the proper forum.  This thread is about advertising the website; it's not about me.

I already said I had INTENDED to leave this thread, you didn't have to ask me to quit posting. But since you decided to pull out your crooked dick and wave it around to provoke me because of your mod status, I will address at least one more point.

ProTip just to Arnox: Yes, that is a form of "provoking".....passive aggressive bullshit spewing "commands" when none were needed at that point. You can drone on and on about "nice" language and "politeness", but its still provoking no matter how sugary the words are. Food for thought.



The only vibe I see equanimity truly giving off is one of kindness and understanding and I didn't know that is a bad precedent.

I just reread the "About This Site"post again, and nowhere do I witness anything about giving a flying fuck about people "being nice" to each other or skipping around dropping flower petals all over the community. I understand when backed into a corner the only positive(?) trait you can describe Zek with is "he is a nice guy"....because in regards to having strong leadership qualities or being able to post significant quality content, he is completely devoid of any of that.

But AGAIN, in the context of advertising and site representation..."being niiiiicccccceeeeeeee" has absolutely nothing to do with the theme or vibe of this website, at least not what you have written in your ATS thread. Zek's perceived "niceness" (in your mind) really is irrelevant to this particular discussion.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: DaGuru on October 06, 2014, 06:31:39 pm
A mod deleted my banner and gave me a warning

And yet the Mary Poppings meme and gif. remain! ELL OH FUCKIN ELL @ the selective moderating going on here.

"No HB idiocy in any of the threads I want to post seriously in, of course unless I want to do it"~~~~Zek/Equanaminity
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: splooge gook on October 06, 2014, 06:31:39 pm
The problem is when mods read posts by somebody smarter than them, they aren't able to decipher it/assume it isn't relevant/don't get the joke, then trash the post.

when the user points out the mod is an idiot who didn't get the joke, you get banned.

thus any messageboard's quality is limited to the amount of abstract information the moderators are able to process. if we have mediocre mods, even if the users are great, we're going to have mediocre forums.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: splooge gook on October 06, 2014, 06:34:32 pm
A mod deleted my banner and gave me a warning

That is fucked up....why and who?

(http://i.imgur.com/4lacdfp.png)

Well I recieved this post from an anonymous admin who was too scared to question my reign over them on their real account. the obnoxious and contrived use of faggot smilies leads me to assume it's (emphasis on it) Zek.

zek didn't even delete the post describing the merits of my banner, which was three paragraphs long. it just deleted the banners. rendering the post into reference-less nonsense that is three paragraphs long

do tranny IQs get measured against a different mean like the small quantitative difference in male and females that isn't compared to one another, meaning different scoring curves for each gender. i cant imagine something that is neither a man or woman but simply a "thing" to possibly have more than three standard deviations above the mean to be equivalent to a human IQ of 145 but more likely hovering into negative numbers.

You guys do know it is mathematically possible to have an IQ that is a negative number? that never happens because the person would need to be negative 6.3 sigma (it's actually 6.6666666... but i didnt want you to think i'm making a biblical illusion) which would be like a 1 in 90 billion rarity. this may one day occur in future generations, but it definitely has never occurred for stupid people, because so many children are born still to this day unable to live outside of a group home, or are stillborn. there is a floor effect for human intelligence that is already apparent and there may be ceiling effects (before we evolve into our next species....well we're all constantly evolving, but it may go to the point where it would be physically impossible to be any more intelligent because of the taxation on your bodily energy preserves it does. i think someone did the math and hypothesized the 1 in 90 billion brain would literally have to be the size of the moon to operate at that level. but anyway, you could have an IQ of -150 if so many humans weren't brain dead already

i am the smartest 17 year old ever
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on October 06, 2014, 06:39:29 pm
See, they bitch about how we don't contribute, then they pull shit like this when we do.  Fuck it, I will shitpost into the sunset up in this motherfucker.

I looked at the deleted posts. Apparently splooge felt like he couldn't express his opinion without over 8 consecutive posts in a row.

I don't know why equanimity deleted the final logo splooge posted though. Here it is again for anyone who wants to see.

(http://i.imgur.com/GF87GjB.png)
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: splooge gook on October 06, 2014, 06:41:28 pm
put it back?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: splooge gook on October 06, 2014, 06:42:22 pm
what's your opinion on this logo?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on October 06, 2014, 06:45:20 pm
what's your opinion on this logo?

My opinion is that I already made a logo a while ago for this site and I soon had to buy a boat because of the river of tears that I had caused.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: equanimity on October 06, 2014, 06:48:35 pm
Sorry for deleting your final banner, splooge.  Was trying to clean up the thread quickly before my class started and I removed one picture too many.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: constantinople on October 06, 2014, 06:48:41 pm
You still aren't getting the bigger picture here. While discussing the requisites of someone being modded, you make a few grandiose commentaries about "professionalism" and "leadership". But then when someone brings up the specific characteristics of that "leader" and how it very much CAN set a vibe/pulse for the forum you just dismiss it off as "who cares, its just one poster".

The only vibe I see equanimity truly giving off is one of kindness and understanding and I didn't know that is a bad precedent.

Yeah she's a real son of a bitch.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: DaGuru on October 06, 2014, 06:51:57 pm


I don't know why equanimity deleted the final logo splooge posted though.

Kinda interesting how this thread went on for the better part of 4 pages with pretty decent discussion, and not one user found the urge to post an IMG or GIF. Then once a moderator DOES post a meme as its "contribution"(?) a behavior/precedent is set to lessen the quality of the conversation. So once a normal use follows suit, they are admonished/warned for doing the exact same thing.

I guess "Lead by example" isn't in this mod's vocabulary, huh? Too busy with chatter about sugar plum fairies and lolipop lanes to have any understanding of that concept?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: splooge gook on October 06, 2014, 06:57:01 pm
Sorry for deleting your final banner, splooge.  Was trying to clean up the thread quickly before my class started and I removed one picture too many.

please removing my warning as recompense
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Spectre on October 06, 2014, 06:59:31 pm
See, they bitch about how we don't contribute, then they pull shit like this when we do.  Fuck it, I will shitpost into the sunset up in this motherfucker.

I looked at the deleted posts. Apparently splooge felt like he couldn't express his opinion without over 8 consecutive posts in a row.

I don't know why equanimity deleted the final logo splooge posted though. Here it is again for anyone who wants to see.

(http://i.imgur.com/GF87GjB.png)

So Arnox where's the sperg out about this mod having deleted posts that you had on edify

last time I checked you made a big point of posts never being deleted on this site and as dumb as his logo is it's still on the topic of conversation your ridiculous attitude is leading to horrible moderation and you can't even hold yourself to the same standards you constantly use as a shield when mods are brought up
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: equanimity on October 06, 2014, 07:16:50 pm
Nothing was deleted.  I moved them to NIMF so you can view now.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on October 06, 2014, 07:25:20 pm
So Arnox where's the sperg out about this mod having deleted posts that you had on edify

That was before we had a system for soft deleting. Back then, all we could do was hard delete. So naturally we tried to avoid doing that as much as possible.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 06, 2014, 07:31:29 pm
Nothing was deleted.  I moved them to NIMF so you can view now.

Why, though?  it was a thread about advertising, and sploo came up with a logo, so it got...moved?  Why?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: equanimity on October 06, 2014, 07:33:42 pm
This thread is about advertising the website.  Please make a new thread or PM me, and I will be happy to explain in detail why I made the decision I did.  No more posting about it here.  We're trying to get something important done for the website here.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 06, 2014, 07:37:37 pm
This thread is about advertising the website.  Please make a new thread or PM me, and I will be happy to explain in detail why I made the decision I did.  No more posting about it here.  We're trying to get something important done for the website here.

There is really nothing you can say that would be an adequate explanation except:  'I fucked up'. 
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Spectre on October 06, 2014, 08:14:30 pm
So Arnox where's the sperg out about this mod having deleted posts that you had on edify

That was before we had a system for soft deleting. Back then, all we could do was hard delete. So naturally we tried to avoid doing that as much as possible.

so again why are these actions here not worthy of your "professional" attitude you had before you seem more than willing to make excuses for this behavior now when those posts no matter how dubious the quality were on topic and doing anything to them was very uncalled for while not also moving the mary poppins post
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Vulture on October 07, 2014, 07:32:11 am
*sigh*

You still aren't getting the bigger picture here.
"provoking"
"Lead by example"
Such a successful salesman.

Reban for hypocrisy plz.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Controversialrogue on October 07, 2014, 08:29:35 am
I'm in  of Unorthodox methods of advertising. I really like the idea of writing the URL in the backs of buses and shit, or perhaps a massive graffiti tag in view of a highway or something. I feel like that would be the best way to attract the type of crowd we want and cater to.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Xlite on October 07, 2014, 09:16:16 am
I would glady spread the link, if it wasn't because of my general dissatisfaction with the site.

No thanks, no youtube tags, no guy getting owned by horse dick, limited decapitations, and last but not least, a fucking tranny as mod.

Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: aldra on October 07, 2014, 09:33:46 am
what happened to spaz? pretty sure he wrote totse2 on his dick at some point

then was on the run from mexan police
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: STD on October 08, 2014, 02:28:48 am
scribble the URL on a few pieces of paper and just leave it at an interesting persons place by 'accident'.

Slow... possible more quality.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on October 08, 2014, 02:35:16 am
no guy getting owned by horse dick

That was taken out unless it was posted again.

Was it?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Xlite on October 08, 2014, 06:16:31 am
no guy getting owned by horse dick

That was taken out unless it was posted again.

Was it?

I don't know. I never saw it.
But once you adress the issues i mentioned in my post, i'll start spreading the word of sanctuary.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Vulture on October 08, 2014, 03:46:08 pm
So yeah... I doubt any amount of advertising is going to build a community here as things currently stand. This site should cater to trends in areas of interest:

-Drug war
-Prison population
-Cryptocurrency/economics
-War/politics
-Hacking

It's no use having a discussion board and information repository, we need things to glue us together. Goals, common enemies, culture, and novelty.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Rook on October 16, 2014, 06:29:29 am
I'm currently a member of six different "active" forums.. Most of which I don't use regularly anymore. I'll probably try and draw in some new members just to keep some fresh conversation flowing here. It would be cool however, if you could implement some sort of referral record, where you get points or perhaps some sort of immaterial reward for your recruiting efforts. Obviously, it could possibly be abused but.. a nice idea nonetheless.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Ninja on October 16, 2014, 07:01:42 am
Yeah, if you bring in 10 new members who get to 500 decent posts then you get a handjob from the resident tranny.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Vulture on October 16, 2014, 07:27:24 am
Random post inspired by this: "I'm currently a member of six different "active" forums.."

This community isn't a thing like totse was, it's the space between a bunch of other things. There are other, larger, more successful communities that specialize in nearly every one of the subforums here. We should be linking those places together.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Rook on October 16, 2014, 10:39:51 am
Random post inspired by this: "I'm currently a member of six different "active" forums.."

This community isn't a thing like totse was, it's the space between a bunch of other things. There are other, larger, more successful communities that specialize in nearly every one of the subforums here. We should be linking those places together.

 That's more or less how I perceive it. Not that I think the goal should be to draw members from quality and better established boards, because that sounds like a plan for failure if I ever heard one. I think the most attractive feature, as stated.. is the diversity and fringe discussion. And by fringe, I don't mean the troll bullshit that often accompanies, detracts, and ultimately kills places like this. I let &Z go for several periods of time because the user-base and content simply wasn't sufficient enough to keep me interested..
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Vulture on October 17, 2014, 09:03:14 am
I was thinking more along the lines of pillaging content instead of users. Interdisciplinary innovation and what not.

But how? We have no shared motivations/goals/enemies.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Rook on October 17, 2014, 09:06:42 am
I was thinking more along the lines of pillaging content instead of users. Interdisciplinary innovation and what not.

But how? We have no shared motivations/goals/enemies.

 Maybe that's something worth looking into?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: BallsDeep69 on October 17, 2014, 10:30:09 am
Changing my enjin account signature to the index.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on November 05, 2014, 02:24:37 am
Alright guys. From now on, this is now goal numero uno.

As I said in a past thread, I'm still broke. However, advertising on other sites is planned. I will be updating and bumping this thread continually now for updates, comments, and suggestions.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: BallsDeep69 on November 05, 2014, 03:12:55 am
Put the link for the Index on my Enjin sig, will make a video for Dailymotion/YouTube.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Lanny on November 10, 2014, 05:25:25 pm
I saw some wet concrete the day before yesterday and considered writing the url in it but then I just drew a penis instead
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: starvingniglet on November 10, 2014, 05:31:41 pm
we need sanctuary t-shirts, with a dragon on the front and this on the back:

(http://i58.tinypic.com/24ccmlt.jpg)
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: fanglekai on November 10, 2014, 07:30:49 pm
Fucking clueless "leadership" on this site. You have no original ideas or even half decent ideas for how to generate traffic :facepalm:

How about advertising good threads like totse.com did? Oh wait none of you were even members on totse.com so how would you know anything about it :facepalm:

Daguru and spectre are right, yet again. The staff have no direction, no unification, and equanmity is doing nothing but ruining the site's image. Arnox is ruining the site's image as well.

Is this forum going to be about free speech or about marypoppins.jpg bullshit? We have a global moderator posting stupid jpgs in a "serious thread" in a "serious subforum" of the site. Model behavior right there.

Zek is ruining the site with his bullshit everywhere. Yet arnox won't address this. The few people who are trying to generate content get their threads filled with shit as a reward. How about put good threads on the front page.

How about fixing the site's description?

This is what the site looks like on google today:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9974381/2014/sanct23.png)

another point: STOP CALLING ZEK SHE.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Σ on November 10, 2014, 07:44:57 pm
Oh wait none of you were even members on totse.com so how would you know anything about it :facepalm:

Ummm... brah... I dont know where you get your info because I was a member.

Also we as a team are working on generating ideas for advertising and generating web traffic but it is true that we dont have anything implemented currently.

What are your ideas?
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: aldra on November 10, 2014, 11:24:15 pm
he just posted two ideas, both valid
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Arnox on November 10, 2014, 11:31:36 pm
Fucking clueless "leadership" on this site. You have no original ideas or even half decent ideas for how to generate traffic :facepalm:

How about advertising good threads like totse.com did? Oh wait none of you were even members on totse.com so how would you know anything about it :facepalm:

Daguru and spectre are right, yet again. The staff have no direction, no unification, and equanmity is doing nothing but ruining the site's image. Arnox is ruining the site's image as well.

Is this forum going to be about free speech or about marypoppins.jpg bullshit? We have a global moderator posting stupid jpgs in a "serious thread" in a "serious subforum" of the site. Model behavior right there.

Zek is ruining the site with his bullshit everywhere. Yet arnox won't address this. The few people who are trying to generate content get their threads filled with shit as a reward. How about put good threads on the front page.

How about fixing the site's description?

This is what the site looks like on google today:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9974381/2014/sanct23.png)

another point: STOP CALLING ZEK SHE.

:oface:

PUSHUPS!!

Anyway, we're working on it. Calm down. One thing at a time.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Bewbees on November 10, 2014, 11:41:04 pm

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9974381/2014/sanct23.png)


Hahaha i like the whole part about research chimpanzees
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Spectre on November 10, 2014, 11:42:28 pm


:oface:

PUSHUPS!!

Anyway, we're working on it. Calm down. One thing at a time.

Sites slow as shit in this thread you say advertising is number one priority someone brings up legitimate points and you dismiss it with calm down and one thing at a time fucking hilarious this is exactly why there are so few users here
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Suicidal Fish on November 10, 2014, 11:43:32 pm
Fucking clueless "leadership" on this site. You have no original ideas or even half decent ideas for how to generate traffic :facepalm:

How about advertising good threads like totse.com did? Oh wait none of you were even members on totse.com so how would you know anything about it :facepalm:

Daguru and spectre are right, yet again. The staff have no direction, no unification, and equanmity is doing nothing but ruining the site's image. Arnox is ruining the site's image as well.

Is this forum going to be about free speech or about marypoppins.jpg bullshit? We have a global moderator posting stupid jpgs in a "serious thread" in a "serious subforum" of the site. Model behavior right there.

Zek is ruining the site with his bullshit everywhere. Yet arnox won't address this. The few people who are trying to generate content get their threads filled with shit as a reward. How about put good threads on the front page.

How about fixing the site's description?

This is what the site looks like on google today:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9974381/2014/sanct23.png)

another point: STOP CALLING ZEK SHE.

I have never typed Into Sanctuary into google as 1 word before...
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: fanglekai on November 11, 2014, 12:22:58 am

:oface:

PUSHUPS!!

Anyway, we're working on it. Calm down. One thing at a time.

This thread is for suggestions. I made suggestions and gave commentary. How about saying thanks? You're ungrateful on top of being incompetent.

Sites slow as shit in this thread you say advertising is number one priority someone brings up legitimate points and you dismiss it with calm down and one thing at a time fucking hilarious this is exactly why there are so few users here
I agree with this. EVERY TIME I try to do something helpful for the site I get the same treatment from staff, in particular from Arnox. I mean holy shit I made a salsa thread when there were 3 people here and he couldn't resist insulting me then. Still going on.


Let's look at the site description if we use 2 words in google:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9974381/2014/sanct33.png)

Oh look it's fucked up too. SURPRISE SURPRISE.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: fanglekai on November 11, 2014, 12:24:15 am
Also notice that RED RING. That's from negative ratings on web of trust, a firefox app that has over 100 million downloads. That hurts traffic.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Enter on November 11, 2014, 12:26:55 am
If I had my own site and people cared enough to help, despite the "tough love" attitude (because I'm not a fucking estrogen-fueled pussy) I'd be thankful as fuck. But of course, the most Arnox can muster out is, "w-why are you here den?"
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: aldra on November 11, 2014, 02:07:55 am
Also notice that RED RING. That's from negative ratings on web of trust, a firefox app that has over 100 million downloads. That hurts traffic.

I was wondering about that - assumed it was flagged as malicious, but I didn't get any errors when I searched it
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: fanglekai on November 11, 2014, 02:13:28 am
Also notice that RED RING. That's from negative ratings on web of trust, a firefox app that has over 100 million downloads. That hurts traffic.

I was wondering about that - assumed it was flagged as malicious, but I didn't get any errors when I searched it

i made a thread specifically about web of trust a few weeks ago. i've had the WoT addon for so long i tend to go with it. if a site is flagged as malicious it makes me much more cautious. for all i know the ratings could be fake, but it does make me more cautious about visiting those sites.
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Suicidal Fish on November 11, 2014, 05:41:55 am
A lot of talk about advertising.

But no Trolling on 4Chan etc to get us a Buzz
Title: Re: Advertising
Post by: Idiosyncrasy on November 11, 2014, 06:02:44 pm
Looks like we need to get into the chimpanzee and wild animal business.