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[Vulture]

Spoiler

Blogs are in.  Some websites I visit (mostly nutrition forums) seem to pull in new people almost exclusively through their blogs discussing things like exercise, green living, fun recipes, etc.

Dunno how to translate and of that into something that works here, though.  Maybe everyone interested could submit post in a blog sort of style and Arnox could pick ones he likes every so often to be the main page here.  Or something.  The topics would be all over the place and there could be lots of different contributors.

Not too sure how people stumble onto blogs in the first place, so who knows if this would even help.  Just a thought.

Just replace text files (zoklet library rehash) with blog posts?

[DaGuru]

Arnox.....you might be thinking this is a continuation of me harping on your decision to make Zek a mod, but at the same time if you want to actually start advertising more....wouldn't it make more sense to have stronger respresentatives of what this place is "about"? Meaning, its seems like you are sending a conflicting message to people that will eventually discover this place when your supposed "leaders" are actually the anti-thesis of a lot of the subject matter you are trying to attract people to.

Taken from "what the site is about thread".....

It doesn't matter if you like music, it doesn't matter if you like demolitions, it doesn't matter if you like games, doesn't matter if you like sports or swearing or drugs or even pirating. This forum has what you need.

Now ask yourself if really and sincerely the people you have decided to be "leaders" on here actually believe in or even enjoy a lot of the subject matter you just rattled off above. Because if your staff is constantly preaching a mindset of "guns are bad m'kay"....or "can't we talk in a nicer/more civil manner".....that is directly contrary to people that want to swear, talk about demolitions/weapons etc.

Its like making Mary Poppins as the greeter/receptionist in a brothel as the first contact point when someone walks into the establishment. How many tricks you really gonna turn when the staff itself isn't even eager or encouraging to the product you are selling?

[Vulture]

continuation of me harping

Reban DaGuru plz.

[Arnox]

Arnox.....you might be thinking this is a continuation of me harping on your decision to make Zek a mod, but at the same time if you want to actually start advertising more....wouldn't it make more sense to have stronger respresentatives of what this place is "about"? Meaning, its seems like you are sending a conflicting message to people that will eventually discover this place when your supposed "leaders" are actually the anti-thesis of a lot of the subject matter you are trying to attract people to.

Taken from "what the site is about thread".....

It doesn't matter if you like music, it doesn't matter if you like demolitions, it doesn't matter if you like games, doesn't matter if you like sports or swearing or drugs or even pirating. This forum has what you need.

Now ask yourself if really and sincerely the people you have decided to be "leaders" on here actually believe in or even enjoy a lot of the subject matter you just rattled off above. Because if your staff is constantly preaching a mindset of "guns are bad m'kay"....or "can't we talk in a nicer/more civil manner".....that is directly contrary to people that want to swear, talk about demolitions/weapons etc.

Its like making Mary Poppins as the greeter/receptionist in a brothel as the first contact point when someone walks into the establishment. How many tricks you really gonna turn when the staff itself isn't even eager or encouraging to the product you are selling?

Equanimity is really the only "Mary Poppins" on staff. In fact, I daresay she's the only "Mary Poppins" on this entire forum. Nevertheless, she believes in the right to talk about all those things and I do believe she's stated this numerous times as well.

[DaGuru]

Reban DaGuru plz.

Awwwwww...what's the matter, because I bring actual real world business sense into the equation....and not just spewing feel good mantras to appease the heartstrings of immature children, your wittle feelings a bit hurt? Sorry kidiot, but unless you apply realistic practical applications to whatever you are trying to sell, all the empty prattle someone spews won't have much effect to whatever your target audience/consumer you are trying to attract.

That ain't just "business" sense, instead COMMON SENSE....at least for someone that can see  a bigger picture beyond 10 feet in front of their face and for longer than 5 minutes.

[DaGuru]

Equanimity is really the only "Mary Poppins" on staff. In fact, I daresay she's the only "Mary Poppins" on this entire forum. Nevertheless, she believes in the right to talk about all those things and I do believe she's stated this numerous times as well.

Believing in the right to discuss things is a bit empty when said person is constantly dishing out petty moral(term used very loosely considering this is Zek we are talking about) judgements to the other people that ARE interested in those subject matters.

Going back to the Mary Poppins/brothel scenario, sure he may be "doing his job" greeting everyone with a false smile....but if 5 seconds later he is  questioning potential clients with ideologies of "does your wife know you are in here"...or..."ya know promiscuous sex leads to AIDS and other STDs"...how many people will actually believe they "fit in" to such an establishment and give it their business?

Also, when you try to minimize it with verbiage of..."only member here"....you are brushing over the fact how frequent Zek is here, along with how insistent Zek seems to be part of MOST of the conversations. Even ones he has zero interest or knowledge about. Kinda like a horsefly buzzing around everyone while they are trying to enjoy a picnic, it may seem minimal...but still IS a deterrent and annoyance to the rest of everyone else's experience.

[Arnox]

Equanimity is really the only "Mary Poppins" on staff. In fact, I daresay she's the only "Mary Poppins" on this entire forum. Nevertheless, she believes in the right to talk about all those things and I do believe she's stated this numerous times as well.

Believing in the right to discuss things is a bit empty when said person is constantly dishing out petty moral(term used very loosely considering this is Zek we are talking about) judgements to the other people that ARE interested in those subject matters.

Going back to the Mary Poppins/brothel scenario, sure he may be "doing his job" greeting everyone with a false smile....but if 5 seconds later he is  questioning potential clients with ideologies of "does your wife know you are in here"...or..."ya know promiscuous sex leads to AIDS and other STDs"...how many people will actually believe they "fit in" to such an establishment and give it their business?

How do those viewpoints clash with this establishment? You're saying that these viewpoints may drive off some people. Well, you know, if they're driven off simply by the opinions of one person, I don't think we want them here. This site is partly about broadening ones horizons. Gaining new perspectives. She isn't spamming every thread she finds with "OMG be good guise!!!111 ^^ "

[DaGuru]

How do those viewpoints clash with this establishment? You're saying that these viewpoints may drive off some people. Well, you know, if they're driven off simply by the opinions of one person, I don't think we want them here. This site is partly about broadening ones horizons. Gaining new perspectives. She isn't spamming every thread she finds with "OMG be good guise!!!111 ^^ "

*sigh*

You still aren't getting the bigger picture here. While discussing the requisites of someone being modded, you make a few grandiose commentaries about "professionalism" and "leadership". But then when someone brings up the specific characteristics of that "leader" and how it very much CAN set a vibe/pulse for the forum you just dismiss it off as "who cares, its just one poster".

Either you really can't understand this concept, or purposely ignoring the obvious....whatever the case I'll stop commenting on your "advertising" issues, because at this point you seem to be so set on digging your heels in you aren't even thinking this all the way through from top to bottom.

[Spectre]

How do those viewpoints clash with this establishment? You're saying that these viewpoints may drive off some people. Well, you know, if they're driven off simply by the opinions of one person, I don't think we want them here. This site is partly about broadening ones horizons. Gaining new perspectives. She isn't spamming every thread she finds with "OMG be good guise!!!111 ^^ "

*sigh*

You still aren't getting the bigger picture here. While discussing the requisites of someone being modded, you make a few grandiose commentaries about "professionalism" and "leadership". But then when someone brings up the specific characteristics of that "leader" and how it very much CAN set a vibe/pulse for the forum you just dismiss it off as "who cares, its just one poster".

Either you really can't understand this concept, or purposely ignoring the obvious....whatever the case I'll stop commenting on your "advertising" issues, because at this point you seem to be so set on digging your heels in you aren't even thinking this all the way through from top to bottom.

that is what he does as I've said from the beginning he has a piss poor dismissive attitude and is incapable of critical thinking

[equanimity]

[equanimity]

Now please, let's get this thread back on track.  DaGuru if you want to complain some more please take it to the proper forum.  This thread is about advertising the website; it's not about me.

[Spectre]

Now please, let's get this thread back on track.  DaGuru if you want to complain some more please take it to the proper forum.  This thread is about advertising the website; it's not about me.

however his posts are more on topic than your image trash he's stating how it's hard to push advertisement when the site doesn't have a unified message or representation maybe you should take your pictures somewhere else and practice reading comprehension

[equanimity]

A mission statement may help us out, yes.  At least it could provide us some general direction.  Very good, DaGuru.

Any suggestions as to what this should be?  I'm partial to the whole "expression of varying, sometimes unpopular, opinions" bit.

[Spectre]

A mission statement may help us out, yes.  At least it could provide us some general direction.  Very good, DaGuru.

Any suggestions as to what this should be?  I'm partial to the whole "expression of varying, sometimes unpopular, opinions" bit.

the site has a mission statement the site doesn't have a good representative front in the leadership department AKA the Admin and mods such as yourself again is the point DaGuru brings up you people represent the site and all you do is muddy the message of free speech and not make an environment conducive to discussion

[Arnox]

You still aren't getting the bigger picture here. While discussing the requisites of someone being modded, you make a few grandiose commentaries about "professionalism" and "leadership". But then when someone brings up the specific characteristics of that "leader" and how it very much CAN set a vibe/pulse for the forum you just dismiss it off as "who cares, its just one poster".

The only vibe I see equanimity truly giving off is one of kindness and understanding and I didn't know that is a bad precedent.