The Sanctuary
Society => My God Can Beat The Shit Out Of Your God => Topic started by: joe camel on September 12, 2014, 12:48:08 am
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tell me the difference in being a Christian and a Muslim. A Jew and a Catholic. Buddhist and Hindu. Of course these religions all have vast differences side by side but the way i see it, if there is a god, which there has to be imo, because i refuse to accept the fact that i am going to sit in the ground and rot for all eternity after all my good deeds and that serial child murderer is not going to burn in hell for all his sins. I REFUSE to believe that and you cannot convince me otherwise. But, if there is a god, when you die and get to meet him, you cant tell me if you were a good person he is going to turn you away from heaven because you worship him like this instead of like that, or you pray this way instead of this way. I don't even think he would turn you away because you didn't believe in him as long as you were a good person and your good outweighs your bad. What kind of sense would that make? That wouldn't be very god like.
What do you guys think?
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question is moot
there is no god
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"God" is essentially unknowable in its "true" form, reality is like a prism which takes the light of god and bends it into a bunch of different little gods and little forces.
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"God" is essentially unknowable in its "true" form, reality is like a prism which takes the light of god and bends it into a bunch of different little gods and little forces.
interesting way of putting it.
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The difference between Buddhism and all of those other religions is Buddhism isn't much of a religion at all in terms of creationism and the belief of God. Buddha himself did not believe in God.
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Cant say Taoism has any resemblance to notions of god in the biblical sense. Or a god at all really. It more than likely spawned the buddhit tradition seems to say that buddha is the closest thing a human can be to god and the farthest one can be to human while being the farthest thing from a god and the closest to a human and things of that nature combined with flavors of the Hindu views of the cosmos. The Hindus gods are not similar to the Abrahamic gods at all.
But I digress, if all religions lead to the same god BEHOLD THE MIGHTY BON! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon)
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"All religions are precious pearls on the golden string of divinity" - Samael Aun Weor
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"All religions are precious pearls on the golden string of divinity" - Samael Aun Weor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou0FSqSOErU&list=RDou0FSqSOErU#t=6
Sometimes I think God hates other Gods.
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My point here is, if you are a good person, your good outweighs your bad, i believe that you will get into heaven, no matter what religion you practice, thats irrelevant. If you are, on the other hand, a bad person, you will be condemned to hell, no matter your religion.
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My point here is, if you are a good person, your good outweighs your bad, i believe that you will get into heaven, no matter what religion you practice, thats irrelevant. If you are, on the other hand, a bad person, you will be condemned to hell, no matter your religion.
That's not a point, that's a faith claim. You could argue that salvation for moral non-believers is somehow implicit in godhood (although I don't think you'd get very far), but as it stands you're just making claims and we have no more reason to believe you than someone who claims we're going to hell if we eat bacon or lack faith or whatever.
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My point here is, if you are a good person, your good outweighs your bad, i believe that you will get into heaven, no matter what religion you practice, thats irrelevant. If you are, on the other hand, a bad person, you will be condemned to hell, no matter your religion.
Something that always crossed my mind was what if we are living in hell right now? Hell is described as a place of suffering and torture and if you think about it that's what most of life is about. It's a fact and something you just cannot deny. What if heaven was invented as a way to keep us in check? According to most religions you have to follow certain rules and live a certain way to make it to heaven. All I'm trying to say is that we are living in a game that is rigged.
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My point here is, if you are a good person, your good outweighs your bad, i believe that you will get into heaven, no matter what religion you practice, thats irrelevant. If you are, on the other hand, a bad person, you will be condemned to hell, no matter your religion.
That's not a point, that's a faith claim. You could argue that salvation for moral non-believers is somehow implicit in godhood (although I don't think you'd get very far), but as it stands you're just making claims and we have no more reason to believe you than someone who claims we're going to hell if we eat bacon or lack faith or whatever.
Indeed, the idea that you could make claims about "God" or just about anything else based on what feels right in your spectrum of good and evil is pretty just an abandonment of serious thought. However I would say that if your faith or religion doesn't feel right to you then you should probably do some investigation into your soul.
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Indeed, the idea that you could make claims about "God" or just about anything else based on what feels right in your spectrum of good and evil is pretty just an abandonment of serious thought. However I would say that if your faith or religion doesn't feel right to you then you should probably do some investigation into your soul.
How is that an abandonment of serious thought? It makes a hell of a lot more sense to me than oh you have to pray to god like this to get into heaven.
What are your thoughts on the afterlife?
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all i want to know is if anyone has one single shred of proof that god exists.
just one
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My point here is, if you are a good person, your good outweighs your bad, i believe that you will get into heaven, no matter what religion you practice, thats irrelevant. If you are, on the other hand, a bad person, you will be condemned to hell, no matter your religion.
That's not a point, that's a faith claim. You could argue that salvation for moral non-believers is somehow implicit in godhood (although I don't think you'd get very far), but as it stands you're just making claims and we have no more reason to believe you than someone who claims we're going to hell if we eat bacon or lack faith or whatever.
Cant say i really understand what your getting at here. I'm not here to convert anybody or whatever. You dont have to believe me, nobody does, it doesnt matter becayse i believe it so that makes it real to me.
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all i want to know is if anyone has one single shred of proof that god exists.
just one
How are you supposed to prove something like that? What kind of evidence would.be sufficient?
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cmon...a deity that created all that the human mind can perceive has no evidence to support its existence?
any evidence. thats why i said any evidence
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cmon...a deity that created all that the human mind can perceive has no evidence to support its existence?
any evidence. thats why i said any evidence
To me the fact that were all even here is evidence. We're human beings, not apes or animals you know. Look at all the shit we invented. We've been into space ffs.
I for one refuse to believe when we die we just rot in the ground. Something HAS to happen. If that is what you believe i honestly feel for you. Think about all the murderers and rapists and child molesters and shit. You mean to tell me they wont have to pay for all those sins in the after life?
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Maybe, we're all just cells in a massive organism or living in a holographic world. Maybe you're all just figments of my fucking imagination. Or, propaganda being streamed into my brain. I don't know a fucking one of you. I am cognizant to the fact that I don't really know a fucking thing. Everything I've been told is a goddamn lie created to control me, by some other fucking retard who doesn't know any more than you do, aside for how to control people. I never really wanted to control people. But, that's really what life is all about. Playing God. So, where is God in all of this? Well, God is merely the concept of the unknowable Truth and the unattainable Freedom. God is our answer. Our, Science. Either way, the best we can hope for and strive to achieve is Good Faith. We need to evolve. And, the only way to do that is to climb up out of the primordial ooze. We never made it out.
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How is that an abandonment of serious thought? It makes a hell of a lot more sense to me than oh you have to pray to god like this to get into heaven.
If it makes sense then you should be able to argue for it independent of your feelings. It's ("it" being accepting feelings as evidence) an abandonment of serious thought because a system that accepts feelings as proof becomes unable to deny and claim, no matter how absurd, so long as one people feels that position is valid.
Cant say i really understand what your getting at here. I'm not here to convert anybody or whatever. You dont have to believe me, nobody does, it doesnt matter becayse i believe it so that makes it real to me.
Believing something obviously doesn't make it real to you. Either the afterlife is how you describe it or it's not. Sure we don't have to (and don't) believe you but for your own sake you should critically assess your own beliefs.
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all dat stuff we learned in science class growin up, gravitational pulls n stuff and chemicals plants let off its alot of stuff u.cud look it up n find out da facts eveeywhere & contradiction automatically proves somethin is a lie becuz it cancels out wat was said before basically snitchin.on yaself
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all dat stuff we learned in science class growin up, gravitational pulls n stuff and chemicals plants let off its alot of stuff u.cud look it up n find out da facts eveeywhere & contradiction automatically proves somethin is a lie becuz it cancels out wat was said before basically snitchin.on yaself
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But, if there is a god, when you die and get to meet him, you cant tell me if you were a good person he is going to turn you away from heaven because you worship him like this instead of like that, or you pray this way instead of this way. I don't even think he would turn you away because you didn't believe in him as long as you were a good person and your good outweighs your bad. What kind of sense would that make? That wouldn't be very god like.
What do you guys think?
I think that Mormonism believes the very same things you are talking about.
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cmon...a deity that created all that the human mind can perceive has no evidence to support its existence?
any evidence. thats why i said any evidence
To me the fact that were all even here is evidence. We're human beings, not apes or animals you know. Look at all the shit we invented. We've been into space ffs.
I for one refuse to believe when we die we just rot in the ground. Something HAS to happen. If that is what you believe i honestly feel for you. Think about all the murderers and rapists and child molesters and shit. You mean to tell me they wont have to pay for all those sins in the after life?
Bah, who are you to say who deserves to pay for their sins in the after life? Nietzsche was right, if Hell didn't exist Man would create it simply to spite his neighbors.
The kingdom of God is within you right now. There is no Heaven that is not in this moment. There is no proper "after life" because there is no end to life, only an end to your small ideas of what you are.
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tell me the difference in being a Christian and a Muslim. A Jew and a Catholic. Buddhist and Hindu. Of course these religions all have vast differences side by side but the way i see it, if there is a god, which there has to be imo, because i refuse to accept the fact that i am going to sit in the ground and rot for all eternity after all my good deeds and that serial child murderer is not going to burn in hell for all his sins. I REFUSE to believe that and you cannot convince me otherwise. But, if there is a god, when you die and get to meet him, you cant tell me if you were a good person he is going to turn you away from heaven because you worship him like this instead of like that, or you pray this way instead of this way. I don't even think he would turn you away because you didn't believe in him as long as you were a good person and your good outweighs your bad. What kind of sense would that make? That wouldn't be very god like.
What do you guys think?
Not all christian/jewish/islamic/whatever conceptions of god see him as accepting of all faiths and people, but it's all just conjecture so your bullshit is just as good as theirs.
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cmon...a deity that created all that the human mind can perceive has no evidence to support its existence?
any evidence. thats why i said any evidence
Please don't take this wrong but pour gasoline all over yourself, light a match, the you will for sure if there is a god.