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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2295 on: December 10, 2014, 07:01:59 am »
Are you hoping I'll become addicted or commit suicide? I feel terrible, but I don't think I want to die.

Although, it brings up an old thought experiment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experience_machine

If you could be on your drug of choice with no ill effects, would you? There's the possibility of new drugs being created, or alternate techniques like transcranial stimulation, that could provide experiences far greater than anything you've felt before. Just lay back in a life maintenance pod until the next step in human development (mind uploading, singularity).

There are other things I want than pleasure/happiness, but I would love to always be enhanced.

Gollum, really, it's almost like telling younger children to do something potentially dangerous, risky, something that could lead to an amusing event unfolding. Your DMT experience sounds very limited and boring (to read, I know actually experiencing it is different and profound) compared to other stories I've read. There are just such different experiences that can be had that it would be a shame to never try again, at least for me.

No I don't want you to commit suicide or get addicted

I wish everyone could feel as good as opiates make me feel, all the time

Its just too bad the addiction part tends to destroy lives

As to your question?  hell yes
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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2296 on: December 10, 2014, 07:10:22 am »
Nothing, just like every other day. Oh, I didn't know it was today, I thought it was tomorrow. Hadn't checked since holidays don't really mean anything if you have absolutely no one, not even a pet, to spend them with.

“I am gone quite mad with the knowledge of accepting the overwhelming number of things I can never know, places I can never go, and people I can never be.”

― Sylvia Plath, The Unabridged Journals of Sylvia Plath

Chronic severe depression, death by suicide. You just start seeing all these signs everywhere, stories of or writing from people who were in the process of losing their minds and barreling towards suicide, and you realize how it parallels your own life, when you've had similar experiences, thoughts. "The same thing is happening to me."

Have you read Under the Bell Jar? It's Plath's best work IMO but also def her most depressing sans a few short stories that may be harder hitting but don't have the volume/length to hit home as much as Bell Jar does. A peripheral member in this community (toraron) introduced me to Plath and to this day I think she's my favorite English language authors. I'm convinced that if you have a depressive personality Under the Bell Jar will make your life, at minimum, more comfortable. It exposed, to me at least, the sublime beauty of the hopeless soul. It exposes how when every thing is bad somehow there's an aesthetic beauty in that that transcends the traditional sense of self, and for some at least, show how suffering is actually the greatest aesthetic pleasure there is idk i dont really know what im saying but read her shiut Plath is a genius and you'd like her

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« Reply #2297 on: December 10, 2014, 11:58:44 am »
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« Reply #2298 on: December 10, 2014, 12:36:55 pm »
I just broke though on DMT. It was the most incredible experience of my life, and I have no memory of what happened. Though that after I came out of it and opened my eyes. I think it was noted how often people said that in The Spirit Molecule, or it may have been a Terrance McKenna talk I listened to. I was on pot and etizolam, which definitely would have promoted amnesiac effects, although I did take nicotine for the cognitive benefit.

Definitely going back there in a better state, not on cannabis and etizolam, and hoping I can bring back memories. Right now, there's the mood lift I've noticed a DMT session gives me afterward for a prolonged period, but it just feels so empty to not remember any of it. I also forgot to have my phone record, but I don't give a shit if I was screaming and making weird noises. Although it doesn't seem I was. Was just sitting cross legged on the bathroom floor in front of the sink w/ cabinet near the closed door and was in the same position afterward with no injuries or aches.

Setting: After a hot shower with the heater on and finishing the aftercare. Who feels bad after a hot shower on a cold day? Then there's the positive effect water has on your state of mind, your brain, which there's research for. After post-shower duties I made sure everything was perfectly safe and used my heat gun vape, with the DMT on some already vaped bud and the heat turned higher than before so it would vaporize quickly. Unplugged the vape, set the other part apart, then just sat down, opened the hose valve, and pressed on the bag to get vapor in quickly, which I didn't find uncomfortable. I'm not sure if I felt anything particularly odd after the second hit, at most it felt mild, but then the third and final hit and I was just there.

I only have a vague memory of being hit by a rapid, an immensely powerful and unrelenting, barrage of something. Images, experiences, knowledge? It was almost like being on a incredible universal or technological roller coaster and being propelled constantly against an unbelievable amount of panes, running into and taking each one in, and each being awe inspiring, profound. There may have been a large face in front of me in at one point while going backwards on the "roller coaster", possibly sinister looking, but I felt no fear and it may have just had a naturally fierce powerful face, without the negative emotions. Damn I wish I could remember what it was.

Hahaha, fuck you Gollum! I'm definitely going back there! I will train to remember and master the trip if necessary, along with looking into powerful memory forming/preserving drugs. From now on I'll have all my at home psychedelic sessions start while beginning to shower with the heater on. And the HGV is the best damn method for inhaling DMT. I'm going to take more melatonin than usual as part of my sleep stack, hope it comes back to me in dreams, or I have the fabled experience of taking DMT in a dream and having the actual experience. Hopefully bits will return, maybe in subsequent breakthroughs. Definitely gonna need to start an extract project for my use.

Yeah malice I get what you're saying, no glass fractal temples or goddesses or any of that. Just nothingness. I feel ayahuasca would be better for this though, it's a more navigable space. DMT is too chaotic for what I want out of it.

You know, you can just plug it or snort it and the duration will be about an hour, although it would be best if you turned freebase (extractions are freebase) into a salt, which can be very easily done with only white vinegar. Like a mini ayahuasca trip. You could even add a common monoamine  oxidase inhibitor, like b caapi or syrian rue, easily obtainable, and it would become more ayahuasca like, although it would last longer than rectal alone.

Have you read Under the Bell Jar? It's Plath's best work IMO but also def her most depressing sans a few short stories that may be harder hitting but don't have the volume/length to hit home as much as Bell Jar does. A peripheral member in this community (toraron) introduced me to Plath and to this day I think she's my favorite English language authors. I'm convinced that if you have a depressive personality Under the Bell Jar will make your life, at minimum, more comfortable. It exposed, to me at least, the sublime beauty of the hopeless soul. It exposes how when every thing is bad somehow there's an aesthetic beauty in that that transcends the traditional sense of self, and for some at least, show how suffering is actually the greatest aesthetic pleasure there is idk i dont really know what im saying but read her shiut Plath is a genius and you'd like her

You should try DMT. I would (not) give you some in exchange for allowing me to trip sit you in a cloak and mask at a convenient location for you. Only lasts 5 minutes and you're rapidly near baseline. I would rather experiment with drugs and technology instead, I've never been impressed with the thoughts of any human I've read, nowadays I generally have low expectations for almost everything, but she's on my reading list.

Damn that would have been fucking sweet if I had remembered. It's bizarre, like reaching the peak of mount everest and instantly forgetting the entire event. Well, something more exciting than that, more intense with the total duration far shorter, and occurring entirely in your mind in the safety of your apartment with barred windows. I'm glad to know I have the potential in me.

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« Reply #2299 on: December 10, 2014, 01:13:27 pm »
A nice hot tub/jacuzzi would be the perfect place to trip. I also didn't use eye shades. Will next time.

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2300 on: December 10, 2014, 03:24:44 pm »
Did you tape your mouth shut?

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« Reply #2301 on: December 10, 2014, 05:01:34 pm »
Lol please don't take dmt in the tub. That's fucking stupid.
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« Reply #2302 on: December 10, 2014, 05:05:28 pm »
D.M Turner died shooting ketamine in a bathtub.
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« Reply #2303 on: December 10, 2014, 06:30:20 pm »
Just went to pick up some weed, and some polish dude stopped me on the way asking if I could get any. He was a pretty cool guy, strangely worried I thought he might be Muslim tho("I show you my papers, I no muslim"). Also told me the problem with this country was we let in too many blacks and muslims. Even tho he had some colour in him himself, not sure what cos it was dark.

I liked him.

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« Reply #2304 on: December 10, 2014, 07:27:55 pm »
A nice hot tub/jacuzzi would be the perfect place to trip. I also didn't use eye shades. Will next time.
I went in my old hot tub as I dropped acid one night. It was below freezing outside, but in the tub the water was hot as fuck (104 -- the max that it can go up to). It was not a pleasant experience, as soon as I started really tripping, I got sensory overload, it felt like I was poaching my brain. When I got out I started shivering of course, and that was awesome, each muscle twitch felt electric.

I definitely wouldn't advise doing it alone, besides drowning like an idiot, the hot water can cause hyperthermia, and it affects the metabolism of drugs.

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« Reply #2305 on: December 11, 2014, 12:37:14 am »
I like putting a plastic grocery bag over my head while tripping

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« Reply #2306 on: December 11, 2014, 12:39:46 am »
I like putting a plastic grocery bag over my head while tripping

ever put a condom over your head?
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« Reply #2307 on: December 11, 2014, 06:39:57 am »
Oh boy, Thursday's supposed to be the biggest storm since 1998. The Bay Area is generally rated as having the best weather in the country, so it's not saying much, it's nothing compared to what most of you have probably been through. Heavy rain period, rain for two days straight, and 40mph winds + some waves 30ft+ high, much worse in some nearby areas. Scattered thunderstorms start at 1AM, 3AM winds reach 40. Many school districts closed. I hope it's much worse than expected.

Damn I want an umbrella like this, it would be so great to walk around with that on trolling everyone. I could see a simple mechanism used to quickly roll up the vinyl:



Afterward I may want to look for Psilocybe Allensi (similar to cyanescens). I may not even want the and just hand them to someone searching and run away or some other giveaway scenario.

Picture Rizzo, wearing a fedora, walking along a trail and spotting a mushroom along the way at the same time he notices an alluring girl in psychedelic/hippie attire, or who may look like they're hunting as well. He then picks the smiles coyly at her, looks away and picks the mushroom, then hands it to her while tipping his hat and saying "m'lady". It has to done.

Did you tape your mouth shut?

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Lol please don't take dmt in the tub. That's fucking stupid.

I decided to do it after the shower because I had had a failed attempt before and wanted to do wait a bit for after effects and possible tolerance to go down. When I tried it in the shower it was with the heater and water on, lying on the floor with my back against the wall.

Hot tub? You could have a simple under the armpits-across the chest restraint to keep you from falling in. I'd also have the temperature set to lower, or do it manually.

I'm not sure I could have remembered the experience even without pot and etizolam. It was such an extremely fast paced constant barrage, your brains "processing power" being used to the fullest, going into overdrive. I think I may remember thinking or feeling during the trip how incredibly fast I was thinking, my mind was functioning. I'd definitely recommend experimenting with nicotine and psychedelics. The experience needs to be slowed down and prolonged. An interesting scenario would be that I've been changed subconsciously by what I experienced, but can't willingly recall.

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Re: The retarded thread: Send zok back to africa edition
« Reply #2308 on: December 11, 2014, 06:40:23 am »
I like putting a plastic grocery bag over my head while tripping
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Just went to pick up some weed, and some polish dude stopped me on the way asking if I could get any. He was a pretty cool guy, strangely worried I thought he might be Muslim tho("I show you my papers, I no muslim"). Also told me the problem with this country was we let in too many blacks and muslims. Even tho he had some colour in him himself, not sure what cos it was dark.

I liked him.
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Lol please don't take dmt in the tub. That's fucking stupid.
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I like putting a plastic grocery bag over my head while tripping

ever put a condom over your head?
galm
A nice hot tub/jacuzzi would be the perfect place to trip. I also didn't use eye shades. Will next time.
I went in my old hot tub as I dropped acid one night. It was below freezing outside, but in the tub the water was hot as fuck (104 -- the max that it can go up to). It was not a pleasant experience, as soon as I started really tripping, I got sensory overload, it felt like I was poaching my brain. When I got out I started shivering of course, and that was awesome, each muscle twitch felt electric.

I definitely wouldn't advise doing it alone, besides drowning like an idiot, the hot water can cause hyperthermia, and it affects the metabolism of drugs.
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D.M Turner died shooting ketamine in a bathtub.
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Did you tape your mouth shut?
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I just broke though on DMT. It was the most incredible experience of my life, and I have no memory of what happened. Though that after I came out of it and opened my eyes. I think it was noted how often people said that in The Spirit Molecule, or it may have been a Terrance McKenna talk I listened to. I was on pot and etizolam, which definitely would have promoted amnesiac effects, although I did take nicotine for the cognitive benefit.

Definitely going back there in a better state, not on cannabis and etizolam, and hoping I can bring back memories. Right now, there's the mood lift I've noticed a DMT session gives me afterward for a prolonged period, but it just feels so empty to not remember any of it. I also forgot to have my phone record, but I don't give a shit if I was screaming and making weird noises. Although it doesn't seem I was. Was just sitting cross legged on the bathroom floor in front of the sink w/ cabinet near the closed door and was in the same position afterward with no injuries or aches.

Setting: After a hot shower with the heater on and finishing the aftercare. Who feels bad after a hot shower on a cold day? Then there's the positive effect water has on your state of mind, your brain, which there's research for. After post-shower duties I made sure everything was perfectly safe and used my heat gun vape, with the DMT on some already vaped bud and the heat turned higher than before so it would vaporize quickly. Unplugged the vape, set the other part apart, then just sat down, opened the hose valve, and pressed on the bag to get vapor in quickly, which I didn't find uncomfortable. I'm not sure if I felt anything particularly odd after the second hit, at most it felt mild, but then the third and final hit and I was just there.

I only have a vague memory of being hit by a rapid, an immensely powerful and unrelenting, barrage of something. Images, experiences, knowledge? It was almost like being on a incredible universal or technological roller coaster and being propelled constantly against an unbelievable amount of panes, running into and taking each one in, and each being awe inspiring, profound. There may have been a large face in front of me in at one point while going backwards on the "roller coaster", possibly sinister looking, but I felt no fear and it may have just had a naturally fierce powerful face, without the negative emotions. Damn I wish I could remember what it was.

Hahaha, fuck you Gollum! I'm definitely going back there! I will train to remember and master the trip if necessary, along with looking into powerful memory forming/preserving drugs. From now on I'll have all my at home psychedelic sessions start while beginning to shower with the heater on. And the HGV is the best damn method for inhaling DMT. I'm going to take more melatonin than usual as part of my sleep stack, hope it comes back to me in dreams, or I have the fabled experience of taking DMT in a dream and having the actual experience. Hopefully bits will return, maybe in subsequent breakthroughs. Definitely gonna need to start an extract project for my use.

Yeah malice I get what you're saying, no glass fractal temples or goddesses or any of that. Just nothingness. I feel ayahuasca would be better for this though, it's a more navigable space. DMT is too chaotic for what I want out of it.

You know, you can just plug it or snort it and the duration will be about an hour, although it would be best if you turned freebase (extractions are freebase) into a salt, which can be very easily done with only white vinegar. Like a mini ayahuasca trip. You could even add a common monoamine  oxidase inhibitor, like b caapi or syrian rue, easily obtainable, and it would become more ayahuasca like, although it would last longer than rectal alone.

Have you read Under the Bell Jar? It's Plath's best work IMO but also def her most depressing sans a few short stories that may be harder hitting but don't have the volume/length to hit home as much as Bell Jar does. A peripheral member in this community (toraron) introduced me to Plath and to this day I think she's my favorite English language authors. I'm convinced that if you have a depressive personality Under the Bell Jar will make your life, at minimum, more comfortable. It exposed, to me at least, the sublime beauty of the hopeless soul. It exposes how when every thing is bad somehow there's an aesthetic beauty in that that transcends the traditional sense of self, and for some at least, show how suffering is actually the greatest aesthetic pleasure there is idk i dont really know what im saying but read her shiut Plath is a genius and you'd like her

You should try DMT. I would (not) give you some in exchange for allowing me to trip sit you in a cloak and mask at a convenient location for you. Only lasts 5 minutes and you're rapidly near baseline. I would rather experiment with drugs and technology instead, I've never been impressed with the thoughts of any human I've read, nowadays I generally have low expectations for almost everything, but she's on my reading list.

Damn that would have been fucking sweet if I had remembered. It's bizarre, like reaching the peak of mount everest and instantly forgetting the entire event. Well, something more exciting than that, more intense with the total duration far shorter, and occurring entirely in your mind in the safety of your apartment with barred windows. I'm glad to know I have the potential in me.
galm

Are you hoping I'll become addicted or commit suicide? I feel terrible, but I don't think I want to die.

Although, it brings up an old thought experiment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experience_machine

If you could be on your drug of choice with no ill effects, would you? There's the possibility of new drugs being created, or alternate techniques like transcranial stimulation, that could provide experiences far greater than anything you've felt before. Just lay back in a life maintenance pod until the next step in human development (mind uploading, singularity).

There are other things I want than pleasure/happiness, but I would love to always be enhanced.

Gollum, really, it's almost like telling younger children to do something potentially dangerous, risky, something that could lead to an amusing event unfolding. Your DMT experience sounds very limited and boring (to read, I know actually experiencing it is different and profound) compared to other stories I've read. There are just such different experiences that can be had that it would be a shame to never try again, at least for me.

No I don't want you to commit suicide or get addicted

I wish everyone could feel as good as opiates make me feel, all the time

Its just too bad the addiction part tends to destroy lives

As to your question?  hell yes

galm


A nice hot tub/jacuzzi would be the perfect place to trip. I also didn't use eye shades. Will next time.

galm

Nothing, just like every other day. Oh, I didn't know it was today, I thought it was tomorrow. Hadn't checked since holidays don't really mean anything if you have absolutely no one, not even a pet, to spend them with.

“I am gone quite mad with the knowledge of accepting the overwhelming number of things I can never know, places I can never go, and people I can never be.”

― Sylvia Plath, The Unabridged Journals of Sylvia Plath

Chronic severe depression, death by suicide. You just start seeing all these signs everywhere, stories of or writing from people who were in the process of losing their minds and barreling towards suicide, and you realize how it parallels your own life, when you've had similar experiences, thoughts. "The same thing is happening to me."

Have you read Under the Bell Jar? It's Plath's best work IMO but also def her most depressing sans a few short stories that may be harder hitting but don't have the volume/length to hit home as much as Bell Jar does. A peripheral member in this community (toraron) introduced me to Plath and to this day I think she's my favorite English language authors. I'm convinced that if you have a depressive personality Under the Bell Jar will make your life, at minimum, more comfortable. It exposed, to me at least, the sublime beauty of the hopeless soul. It exposes how when every thing is bad somehow there's an aesthetic beauty in that that transcends the traditional sense of self, and for some at least, show how suffering is actually the greatest aesthetic pleasure there is idk i dont really know what im saying but read her shiut Plath is a genius and you'd like her

galm

Are you hoping I'll become addicted or commit suicide? I feel terrible, but I don't think I want to die.

Although, it brings up an old thought experiment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experience_machine

If you could be on your drug of choice with no ill effects, would you? There's the possibility of new drugs being created, or alternate techniques like transcranial stimulation, that could provide experiences far greater than anything you've felt before. Just lay back in a life maintenance pod until the next step in human development (mind uploading, singularity).

There are other things I want than pleasure/happiness, but I would love to always be enhanced.

Gollum, really, it's almost like telling younger children to do something potentially dangerous, risky, something that could lead to an amusing event unfolding. Your DMT experience sounds very limited and boring (to read, I know actually experiencing it is different and profound) compared to other stories I've read. There are just such different experiences that can be had that it would be a shame to never try again, at least for me.

No I don't want you to commit suicide or get addicted

I wish everyone could feel as good as opiates make me feel, all the time

Its just too bad the addiction part tends to destroy lives

As to your question?  hell yes

galm

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« Reply #2309 on: December 11, 2014, 07:59:04 am »
I like how the news channels referred to the furry convention as "fans of comic book characters" as if they're a bunch of harmless innocent victims and not sick fetishists who get off to the thought of fucking an animal.

Most of them are not like this.
There are subsets of furries that are looked down upon by even furries. These include "baby furs" who wear diapers and walk around shitting themselves and acting like infants at furcons, and the zoophile guys PoC was talking about. Furries by in large cause no trouble and are extremely nice, because they are such outcasts that have probably experienced their own abuse.

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