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Wanna SnB? READ THIS FIRST!
« on: August 25, 2014, 10:21:58 pm »
This method is nuthin nice! It's making long term users sick from the
repeated exposure to Lithium Toxins. It's put a few in the hospital
with shards of glass embedded in the hamburger that was once a face,
neck, chest, arms, and hand. It's a bust waiting to happen if used in
the city suburbs where houses are built so close together they look
like they're attempting to have sex with each other.

Too many hazards to list here and this post is completely void of
anything published by the scare squads commissioned by the Government
to spread lies and propaganda to the sheep(voters) who believe
everything they read(starting with the Bible) to get their votes
directed at the important issues like taking away the last traces of
freedom we have left.

SWIM decided to give this a whirl just to see for his self and abide by
his Missourian bloodline State battle cry "the SHOW ME State" so he first
Read, researched, and prepped for over a year before his first attempt.
Within one minute of adding the necessary ingredients and giving the
Lab Grade Heavy-duty vessel a healthy first shake it disintegrated in his bare
hand leaving him deaf for hours.. SWIM is all about safety preparation
so was garbed in safety glasses, high end protective gas mask, and
thick, loose clothing with long sleeves and high neck seam.. so only
receive one fine cut across the inside of his thumb on his right hand
where the thumb bone connects the palm of the hand.
Also SWIM's penchant, so far, for experiencing calm quiet clarity during
an event that kick starts the side effects from shock of "fight or flight" ...

He calmly walked back into his house, grabbed an old towel from the
rags box and pre-padded down his entire head, neck, and hands before
introducing water and soap to that cleaning process so to eliminate
worse damage by activating sodium hydroxide and burning off a few
layers of his favorite areas from his skin organ(like the area
stretching across the front of his skull that his own mother recognizes
him with..heh..

..then finishing the process with a thorough shower..
..then SWIM went out on the front porch where every neighbor could see
him and calmly sat down on one of the porch chairs to accomplish two
goals..

    So his neighbors could see his body language showed no signs
    that he even heard the blast that surely must have involved several
    sticks of dynamite exploding simultaneously!

    AND so he could use his peripheral vision to access his street and
    every house within sight for any activity or focus directed his way!


SWIM even(first when he first entered the house immediately after and
was questioned by wide-eyed family members "WHAT WAS THAT??" in a
slightly disinterested, slightly jovial voice he dismissed it as a
backfire. Then again when he was on his porch with the added curious
"what are ya freaking out about?" as if the backfire was not the root
of their odd confusion but some deeper event SWIM wasn't privy to had
triggered their behavior(that was the closure beings now the focus was
on them and everyone immediately went back to their usual odd
behavior known to everyone and recognizably ignored as routine for
them..

..So what I'd like newbees to take from this thread is this..it's
here for information purposes ONLY.. and strongly advisable that all
NEWBEES and old hands with this method alike to forget ever taking it
serious and wasting their time on it.. It's an old method devised by
bottom end of the community and dismissed by all serious cooks as dangerous
and below the standards of respectable cooks.. not until BIG BROTHER
had boxed accessibility to needed chems and precursors of all the
standard favorites that serious cooks used and depended on did a few
bravehearts crawled back into the archives to retrieve these bastard
variations(snb is the bastard child of the highly recommended and well
respected Birch method) to sacrifice their safety and reputations to
test, pool their findings, and improve on the methods in a combined
effort to regain their hard earned one step ahead of BIG BROTHER..

..for that I and others applaud their pooled efforts but bastard methods
are that with good reason..so should never be brougt back out for ANY
reason..if it quacks it's a duck so no matter that our comfortable
position ahead of the Evil Ruling Class hired lies spreaders look for
your saviors else where ... and one can find from the shit piled is more shit..heh..

So next panic, please! Look though the latest chem journals and
copywrite engines for your savior cuz that's where the gems are or
they don't exist! ..period..        Android, The Zonez

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Re: Wanna SnB? READ THIS FIRST!
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2014, 10:51:30 am »
Let thsm kill them selves purp it only makes are gen ppool stronger
Fucking with me is like masterbation, Feels good while your doing it, But when ya done, You realise you fucked your self.

A goal: To leave this place a little less fucked up then when i entered.

Stay in drugs,
Don't do school?

This is a massive violation of rule 1
It's fine.

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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2014, 11:54:27 pm »
O.H. while my pet spider does somewhat agree with you, he wants to stick more with purp's OP.  This new wave of SnB tweakers is very unsafe and unprofessional, not to mention drawing more and more media attention from more booms.  My spider has only been looking the chem stuff for about a year so he is in no way "old school," but does respect the veterans of the trade, not the twacked out people shaking bottles.  My spider is so tired of asking someone if they know anything about cooking and they reply, "oh yea i make a mean SnB." 

My pet spider is very grateful you posted this purp and thank goodness you're alright.
Everyone please carry this message and help extinguish this shit flame called SnB
"No I don't have a fire extinguisher, why would I need one?"

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Re: Wanna SnB? READ THIS FIRST!
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2014, 09:46:21 am »
Whenever doing a s&b never use water to kick off the reaction. With the proper weight ratios of ingredients it will kick off. If the reaction does not you can depending on vessel apply heat to kick it off by A. Placing in microwave for seconds and this will get that bitch bumping. There has been some really neat shit into using nukes to drive reactions and also greatly reducing the amount of time. Yeah just never ever use water it's the start to a bad ending on so many levels

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Re: Wanna SnB? READ THIS FIRST!
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2014, 10:00:58 pm »
Whenever doing a s&b never use water to kick off the reaction. With the proper weight ratios of ingredients it will kick off. If the reaction does not you can depending on vessel apply heat to kick it off by A. Placing in microwave for seconds and this will get that bitch bumping. There has been some really neat shit into using nukes to drive reactions and also greatly reducing the amount of time. Yeah just never ever use water it's the start to a bad ending on so many levels

Great advice re not needing water to kick off...

However suggesting "Placing in microwave" to initiate the reaction is VERY DANGEROUS.

Many plastics will melt in seconds!! 

While the rv will probably not explode in the microwave after a few seconds, if not microwave safe it will now have several weak spots. Not what you want when starting off a 1-2 hour high pressure exothermic reaction.

Your RV may be microwave safe but peeps use all different types. Try this: put an empty 1l coke bottle in for 10 seconds. Would you use this bottle now for a Birch?

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2014, 10:16:15 pm »
Whenever doing a s&b never use water to kick off the reaction. With the proper weight ratios of ingredients it will kick off. If the reaction does not you can depending on vessel apply heat to kick it off by A. Placing in microwave for seconds and this will get that bitch bumping. There has been some really neat shit into using nukes to drive reactions and also greatly reducing the amount of time. Yeah just never ever use water it's the start to a bad ending on so many levels

I hear a cloth-type heating pad works very well. Heats it up evenly and won't get too hot.

If you absolutly must use water, use no more than 5ml. Any more you Li will likely ignight. I have seen teks calling for up to 1/4 cups of water. Serious. Best case with adding more than a few ml of water is you will only burn up a large portion of the precious Lithium.

The  real intent of the water is to facilitate the reaction of the  Sodium Hydroxide with the Ammonia Nitrate. One may do this by introduction of a trivial amount of humidity to one or either of these. Too much moisture is  if the reactants clump or are visually melty.

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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2014, 03:51:05 pm »
i test smoke my crack to make sure i sell the best crack

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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2014, 09:22:20 pm »
Anyone with half a mind shouldn't be doing a SnB. If you want to make quality drugs follow quality procedures.


'When choosing between two evils i always like to choose the one i've never tried before.'

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Re: Wanna SnB? READ THIS FIRST!
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2014, 09:53:45 pm »
Anyone with half a mind shouldn't be doing a SnB. If you want to make quality drugs follow quality procedures.


if only it were that simple

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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2014, 10:16:35 pm »
Anyone with half a mind shouldn't be doing a SnB. If you want to make quality drugs follow quality procedures.


if only it were that simple

No one said it would be easy.


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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2014, 09:23:26 am »
SWIM decided to give this a whirl just to see for his self and abide by
his Missourian bloodline State battle cry "the SHOW ME State" so he first
Read, researched, and prepped for over a year before his first attempt.
Within one minute of adding the necessary ingredients and giving the
Lab Grade Heavy-duty vessel a healthy first shake it disintegrated in his bare
hand leaving him deaf for hours.. SWIM is all about safety preparation
so was garbed in safety glasses, high end protective gas mask, and
thick, loose clothing with long sleeves and high neck seam.. so only
receive one fine cut across the inside of his thumb on his right hand
where the thumb bone connects the palm of the hand.
Also SWIM's penchant, so far, for experiencing calm quiet clarity during
an event that kick starts the side effects from shock of "fight or flight" ...

Can you please elaborate as to the "necessary ingredients" and the "Lab Grade Heavy-duty vessel" you are referring to?

I only ask because ANYONE that has ANY experience with SnB knows that the shit you are stating about mixing ingredients together and somehow inducing an explosion is COMPLETE CRAP and honestly laughable in it's stupidity.

You speak as if you have some experience and knowledge as a cook/chemist, but you tell this story of a year's research followed by a failed attempt at an extremely simple reaction that even toothless hillbillies perform successfully everyday... I can't help but to think I might take my advice from another source.

The modified birch reduction, or the "Ammonia/Metal reduction of PSE to MA in a non-polar solvent at room temperature" is well-documented in chem journals and copyrights, and the basis for the entire reaction, Transition to a Metallic State (TMS) is extremely effective, and currently one of the most widely studied and exciting finds in this field of chemistry.

But thanks for the entertaining post.

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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2014, 11:05:55 am »
SWIM decided to give this a whirl just to see for his self and abide by
his Missourian bloodline State battle cry "the SHOW ME State" so he first
Read, researched, and prepped for over a year before his first attempt.
Within one minute of adding the necessary ingredients and giving the
Lab Grade Heavy-duty vessel a healthy first shake it disintegrated in his bare
hand leaving him deaf for hours.. SWIM is all about safety preparation
so was garbed in safety glasses, high end protective gas mask, and
thick, loose clothing with long sleeves and high neck seam.. so only
receive one fine cut across the inside of his thumb on his right hand
where the thumb bone connects the palm of the hand.
Also SWIM's penchant, so far, for experiencing calm quiet clarity during
an event that kick starts the side effects from shock of "fight or flight" ...

Can you please elaborate as to the "necessary ingredients" and the "Lab Grade Heavy-duty vessel" you are referring to?

I only ask because ANYONE that has ANY experience with SnB knows that the shit you are stating about mixing ingredients together and somehow inducing an explosion is COMPLETE CRAP and honestly laughable in it's stupidity.

You speak as if you have some experience and knowledge as a cook/chemist, but you tell this story of a year's research followed by a failed attempt at an extremely simple reaction that even toothless hillbillies perform successfully everyday... I can't help but to think I might take my advice from another source.

The modified birch reduction, or the "Ammonia/Metal reduction of PSE to MA in a non-polar solvent at room temperature" is well-documented in chem journals and copyrights, and the basis for the entire reaction, Transition to a Metallic State (TMS) is extremely effective, and currently one of the most widely studied and exciting finds in this field of chemistry.

But thanks for the entertaining post.

The above was a repost of a write up that Android did at The Zonez ( Android, The Zonez). If you want to criticize someone maybe you should criticize him. You might want to do a little research as to who he is before you do. Best of Luck!!! 
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2014, 03:34:57 pm »
Fair enough.

If you were reposting in the name of what you believe to be harm reduction, then I commend your concern.

I have no idea how long ago this write-up from Android was posted, so I will avoid criticisms...but if it was posted anytime in the last 5 years, then I will say again... LAUGHABLE. There is simply too much information available over the last 5 years to justify the extreme ignorance and incompetence of the write-up.

Unless an EXTREME OVERUSE of reactants is used and the RV is not vented before pressure causes failure, or a completely improper an inadequate RV is used, there Absolutely NO way to cause an explosion.

I assume that a glass RV was used based on the post... Most lab grade glass pressure vessels are only pressure rated to a max of 150psi. Although that SHOULD be sufficient for a CONTROLLED rxn of this type, it would be unadvisable... If one were say inexperienced, and either did not vent the rxn properly and/or used an extreme excess of reactants, the rxn could build quickly and uncontrolled and with a glass rxn vessel, the vessel could feasible explode instead developing the likely pinhole leak as a proper plastic RV would. The plastic RV also gives the margin of error and visual indications of expanding as pressure builds.

Anyway, regardless of WHO Android is, in the sake of making accurate information available, you can take it from a nobody like me as a FACT that the write-up is either bullshit, or completely outdated.

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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2014, 12:22:12 am »
Whenever doing a s&b never use water to kick off the reaction. With the proper weight ratios of ingredients it will kick off. If the reaction does not you can depending on vessel apply heat to kick it off by A. Placing in microwave for seconds and this will get that bitch bumping. There has been some really neat shit into using nukes to drive reactions and also greatly reducing the amount of time. Yeah just never ever use water it's the start to a bad ending on so many levels

I hear a cloth-type heating pad works very well. Heats it up evenly and won't get too hot.

If you absolutly must use water, use no more than 5ml. Any more you Li will likely ignight. I have seen teks calling for up to 1/4 cups of water. Serious. Best case with adding more than a few ml of water is you will only burn up a large portion of the precious Lithium.

The  real intent of the water is to facilitate the reaction of the  Sodium Hydroxide with the Ammonia Nitrate. One may do this by introduction of a trivial amount of humidity to one or either of these. Too much moisture is  if the reactants clump or are visually melty.

Heating pad is ideal. Warm oil bath works well but gets the RV very messy. Blow dryer works well but must be used with caution for the same reasons as the microwave.

Grinding the sodium hydroxide and the ammonium nitrate to a fine powder will also give more surface area contact of the reactants and promote the initiation of the reactant.

Mixing the chemicals with a plastic hanger or something similar Will also get the reaction to kick off for the same reasons.

NO water should EVER be used... Not only for safety, but for yield... WATER IS THE BAKERS ENEMY!!!

More water = lower yield

Non polars should be COMPLETELY dried if washed and great care should be taken to keep the reactants sealed air tight with as little exposure to the moisture in the air as possible prior to use.