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Searching for Eternal Knowledge
« on: October 18, 2014, 04:22:31 pm »
every idea i could think of over the past hour or so. does anybody have any comments, elaborations, or refutations. i feel like i'mpreaching to myself but i just want 2 lern shit.
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somebody should study the patterns of symbols and shapes in relation to phonological explanations in preceding or even unrelated language systems/whatever, and see how it relates to the culture, area, circumstances, achievements of that era. hopefully that wouldn't end up with the psuedoscience that handwriting is.

it's so easy to see patterns in our own lletter systems. a g is a 6 and a 9. a y is a g with the top line removed (not accounting for the curved). this sounds crazy but i have a feeling there must be some sort of contextual historical reasons for why this occurred, because i'm obviously not the only one who's noticed the similarities. we already know that the language we learn can shape the system we orienti ourselves in (like NSEW instead of LR in common language]. to find the answers to the logic behind past civilizations, we not only have to try to arrive at the correct conclusions but also the wrong conclusions, to mimic their psychology. nothing this common in everyday life can just be a total coincidence like that,

also a 6 is a y with one line removed. edit: and a 9 too, lol

but numbers are a universal system compared to lettering, which is more cultural.

6 is 8, c = <, d = |>, so many of them, maybe i'llbe that guy who guys insane trying to find patterns in Pi

more random thoughts: nobody has tried to correlate weather conditions with the emotional states from different nationalities, and whether the overrepresentation or underrepresentation of certain mental attributes can be traced back to their natural pre-historic positions on wherever on earth. species is too broad of a classification for anything but i guess it serves until we can learn how to sequence genomes or something

so many seemingly unrelated factors like lunar cycles, ethnicity, genetics (more obviously), weather conditions, nutritional content of soil and water. overall humidity, average body temperature, integration of different sensory organs like the eyes and ears are totally disregarded in the soft sciences like psychology, so fuck that shit yo. nobody's interested in actually finding new constructs, just elaborating on their (wrong) pre-construed constructs

also, math teachers should be consistently reminding their students what numbers actually are (and their representations, like in counting) and integrate that/build up from there appropriately until any new concept is explained. math needs to be taught axiomatically so that people actually know what they're doing.

we are not prepared as a species for the technology in the world that gets progressively more complex by a select few who are rare and also reproduce less frequently than average, while a sizable portion has very little clue how to do PEMDAS. in the obliviousness of this all, we're fucking doomed (if we haven't been already with this data-harvesting website) bro

starting off math education with very simple geometry that progresses might be a good idea, because it fills in the "when are we ever actually going to have to use this" of traditional math education. by the time someone can do an algebraic expression, they need to know how the numbers became the objects, which object is the variable, and how that "builds" up the proper construction of real-world mathematics. it's of philosophical debate whether our cognition of logic is a top-down or bottom-up approach (whether math actually exists at all), but it is unreasonable to only teach a single or set way of explaining a basic concept that has logic that is interpretable from various understandings of what logic is.

how many people can define the properties of the shape of whatever object they're even using? just look at the freaking pencil in front of you and tell me if you could define its geometry either qualitatively or quantitatively. there has been very little association with what we see and what we understand (integration of vis input), and that needs to change soon if we want some sort or architectural revolution. understanding the mathematics' of geometry should also help with understand neurology in the occipital lobe, but they haven't generally been able to do that with regular math or much else so far.

also. use a more objective measurement system. obviously not as small as planck units but something that could be like 100,000 planck units = 1 monkey meter, which can then be further subdivided into plank units and imaginary quantities that exist below planck units, this would replace the inches/centimeters systems which i believe isn't as scientifically based as for example temperature in kelvin units or Celsius, but then again i don't know the exact etymology of a centimeter,

weight based on mass and gravity (and volume?) or something? i wonder what mathematical results from that measurement look like. though thiis made me realize planck units are more of a numerical benchmark that a number line assigned to a specific type of property besides "being able to physically exist" so if it applies to one property you might as well have it apply to all of them. and then terms like weight, length, temperature would be actually based in reality

how do refrigerant (hydrocarbons?) that create a hole in the atmosphere differ in dynamics of damage from other greenhouse gas type chemicals? they would both be toxic to the atmosphere but since the layer is getting opened up to heat by sun I wonder if the regrigerant would have any protective properties.

theoretically, if there was a hole in one piece of the ozone layer that was exposed to sun the most because of frequency of orbit/rotation exposing it more to sunlight..and then you had a hole on the other section of the atmosphere that was least exposed to sunlight, and somehow had an infinite supply of oxygen. it would work sort of like a hot air ventilation system. i wonder if that happened it would like scorth the earth or rip it to pieces or something lol

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Re: Searching for Eternal Knowledge
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2014, 04:32:20 pm »
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nobody has tried to correlate weather conditions with the emotional states from different nationalities, and whether the overrepresentation or underrepresentation of certain mental attributes can be traced back to their natural pre-historic positions on wherever on earth. species is too broad of a classification for anything but i guess it serves until we can learn how to sequence genomes or something
That's not true.

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so many seemingly unrelated factors like lunar cycles, ethnicity, genetics (more obviously), weather conditions, nutritional content of soil and water. overall humidity, average body temperature, integration of different sensory organs like the eyes and ears are totally disregarded in the soft sciences like psychology, so fuck that shit yo. nobody's interested in actually finding new constructs, just elaborating on their (wrong) pre-construed constructs
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Re: Searching for Eternal Knowledge
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2014, 04:41:56 pm »
Wtf is the topic of this thread? U bounce around on so many different topics and tangents a reply would need to be 87 pages long

Simplify this...its too long and drawn out to appeal to the nonexistent attention spans of 99.999% of the people who are going to read it. Including moi

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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2014, 04:43:34 pm »
how do refrigerant (hydrocarbons?) that create a hole in the atmosphere differ in dynamics of damage from other greenhouse gas type chemicals? they would both be toxic to the atmosphere but since the layer is getting opened up to heat by sun I wonder if the regrigerant would have any protective properties.



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Re: Searching for Eternal Knowledge
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2014, 05:11:32 pm »
A conversation I had with a girl from my old school:

*Her*
im working my way down lol
2. there is a study of handwriting already. i think the study of symbols and patterns exists within the larger study of writing and oral expression
3. check up on the evolution of hand writing. im sure there are reasons for  all of the things you are mentioning
4. on the topic of weather and personalities and ethnicities, there is a study called biogeography which, when coupled with anthropology, might produce some of the information youre looking for
5. i agree with your ideas on math teaching
6. i have no idea how they differ in dynamics from regular greenhouse gasses and i think the concept of a hot air ventilation system is cool in theory but we dont have an infinite supply of oxygen and i think the variation in pressure would cause a lot of damage. not to mention the sun damage in the area of the hole

*Me*
yeah i know we dont have an infinite supply
rhats why i said theoretically dude
they should make sattelites that are designed to vaccuum-catch oxygen particles around the hole in the ozone lazyer.im sure it would be enormously expensive though
it could be like, an occupation for blue collar workerrs
the revenue it produces is a reduction of costs, so yeah, apaycheck

*Her*
yeah but initial costs and risk analysis would make that nearly impossible

*Me*
the initial costs yeah,but ow would it be risky?

*Her*
would it be a filtration for oxygen? like sending clean particles back in

*Me*
im not saying like flying spaceships around actually
that was a joke
i meant more like giant blimp sattelites
that suck in oxygen at a designated point
they filter it in exclusively
if that's possible

*Her*
well for starters insurance costs would be huge, space is especially dangerous, you would need to train thousands of people, you would also have to use a lot of energy to get them up into space

*Me*
well space is litrally emptiness so maybe
they could be automated

*Her*
that in itself contributes to the problem of  greenhouse gasses

*Me*
just like TV sattelites are
and greenhouse gas emissions don't matter in space
it's a relatively minute event enviormentally to fire up a bunch of ships that may stay there for a long time
oh ueah
but the amount of oxygen it would have to catch is use
is it impossibly to construct an upwards tubing that would go past the atmosphere
it could float around in a semi-restricted space because no gravity
and the oxygen would come back to earth by import tubes
so the heating would be reduced by ventilation in the second hole
and the oxygen reuptake could prevent the loss of oxygen
oh but a lot of it gets naturall converted anyway
first of all we would need to dedicate a GIANT portion of of argricultural funds to plants that could be considered
"most oxygen-rich" or something
that would be a pretty essential resource

*Her*
yeah
its true but it would be so much easier to just initiate a reduction in the rpoduction of the gasses in the first place

*Me*
but if there's a cheap, ready to produce crop that can be analyzed for oxygen efficiency, maybe even if global warming didn'toccur or there was no holein the ozone, we could achieve a higher functioning human race because at least according to my doctor most humans don't get enough oxygen they need, hench why breathing from the diaphagram is so good for you. like it could be the next golden age or something lol but then it's limited by how much carbon dioxide can be produced?
chicken or egg
well i assume carbon dioxide can be synthesized more easily anyway

*Her&
exactly. like the increased amount of oxygen would set off initially the balance of CO2 and O2 but over oxygenation leadds to algae booms among other increased  population growths, only increasing the amount of CO2 produced later on

*Me*
i've always took the idea of biodomes as sort of a good idea
not like "our sky is limited from us by a giant pane of glass"
but an engineered and optimized atmosphere may piss hippies off but really you're just catering to the needs of natural selection and continuous growth
and it would only be within those domes, outsideof the domes a "natural" atmosphere" would remain unpeturbed
of possible
if*

*Her*
i mean it all comes down to either conservationist of preservationist ecological ideologies. like ideally we would be able to preserve the environmental state but with buisness, industry and technology growth, we need to engineer sustainability

*Me*
i know, but i was particularly focusing on those changes because they sounded liked they could be relatively cost efficient compared to like solar panels
oh but there would be continual degration of the hole in the ozone layer anyway
well maybe.,maybe not because of the "ventilation" and contiously changing orbit
and maybe where a hole in the ozone layer is confined by certain physical properties?
like the poles
but if we weren't regarding that
it would be basically

*Her*
i think degredation is inevitable because we are already so far along in the game in terms of ozone depletion

*Me*
A. big balloons connected to thin tubing that inhale oxygen

*Her*
and then bring it back intot he biosphere?

*Me*
B. a material that is thin enough to be meshed over a city or translucent to a city without being enormously expensive to put over an area and not obfuscate sight of the sky or whatever
C. a focus on "oxygen nutrional" cropping and agricultural
D. (possibly) some sort of ventilation system (not necessarily a hole) in the atmospherethat can expel poisons
it would sorta be like engineering the ozone layerinto a  functioning lung

*Her*
how would the mesh be suspended

*Me*
holy shit lol, if we try to view pieces of the atmosphere like bodily organs with ailments or diseases and as a body to be sustained these things seem a lot more inductive
well things can be lighter than air right
but that doesnt even matter
if the biodome is like a lung inside a lung
it'll also be expelling the bad things
so if theres an airflow out of the dome, it could be holding the mesh up
or would that mean there's a greater proportion of outflow to inflow?

*Her*
probably a greater proportion of outflow to inflow because of the vacuum created

*Me*
heh yeah
"filler oxygen" maybe?
oh no it's based on mass and pressure i think
uhh
you can have the mesh be held together by the buildings of the perimter of the city
which could be suspended to the ground from that point
forming like a cube-dome
but more like a hundred different sides

*Her*
but that would be dangerous with storms and other environmental weather related factors

*Me*
and if there's like a highest point in the middle, like a skyscraper
the center of the mesh could be held up by that pinnacle leaving enough spiace for a regular atmosphere to form
it wouldn't even have be a building really
just an extremely extended antennae with enough physical support to hold up as a central vertice
oh you're right though
then the natural ecosystem will be at conflict with themini ecosystems
and everything will end up balancing at equilibrium again,maybe

*Her*
wind is so powerful especially at higher levels that it would be nearly impossible to maintain its suspension, and the damage cuased by potential detachment is enormous

*Me*
eh that also depends on material used right?
carbonite i think is very thin but also one of the strongest materials on earth
it would be sort of like having the outside of the dome encased in carbonite with all the filter for good chemicals letting them pass through, and expelling them into another (appropriate) ecoststem
there's no reason the material can't beas strong as the materials build to fly a spaceship
just nonintrusive

*Her*
but unless that mesh is a semi permeable membrane, heat owuld get trapped, what about the possibility of meteroites and smaller space junk

*Me*
maybe that could be dealt with in the outer natural atmosphere?

*Her*
that would mean a doubled mesh with some kind of repellent

*Me*
well, you can have something made out of solid materials that can still bend like something permeable because of the suspensions between tiles
like not totally uniform so they kind of dangle but at the same time they dangle without leaving "weak spots"
and if thiis wasn't super expensive, would it even matter if it broke?
because it's enviorment optimization, not enviorment necessity

*Her*
yes because of the waste generated in the creation of new mesh

*Me*
just have one guy hook up a part of the curtain at each point the next day
lol hard doesn't equal indestructible
the mesh could be as easy to dispose of as any other waste like plastics and paper
given the proper materials

*Her*
i agree with the soft mesh but how would you construct that
and also whats the benefit of making something you constantly have to replace

*Me*
hell if i know lol
well optimally it wouldn't be something would need to be constantly replaced
but even if it is, it wouldn't be a huge deal
the only concern i'm thinking of now is  that even if the material is thin itmight still be sharp
if lighting hits or something the mesh could break and descent and cut someone or something

*Her*
yeah also if its made out of any conductor the possibility of an electronic surge would be super deadly
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Re: Searching for Eternal Knowledge
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2014, 05:53:26 pm »
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2014, 06:13:41 pm »
The staff are like kids running around with jars trying to catch lightning bugs, but they don't realize that the bugs are really wasps...really big wasps, and they aren't lightning bugs at all, they are just carrying flaming torches.  Hilarity will soon ensue.

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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2014, 07:56:44 pm »
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Re: Searching for Eternal Knowledge
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2014, 11:38:42 pm »


Everything I post iz fiction

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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2014, 11:54:13 pm »
no it's Time over Time divided by Seconds of Energy

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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2014, 12:34:07 am »
oh seriously?
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2014, 12:34:52 am »
lol i discovered time by myself
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2014, 12:36:37 am »
Marsh I fucking hate your fucking guts.

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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2014, 12:37:27 am »
z is the same thing as  seconds of energy
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2014, 12:38:42 am »
Marsh I fucking hate your fucking guts

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