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Should a person use TOR when pirating
« on: October 09, 2014, 02:53:31 am »
I love not paying for my digital software.  Books, software, music, videos, apps.

After downloading, I move the file(s) to a new folder and don't seed.  Am I at any legal risk?

Should I use TOR and/or an anonymous Internet connection?

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Re: Should a person use TOR when pirating
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2014, 03:03:48 am »
don't use tor because it puts undue load on the network and tends to be slow as fuck

if you're worried about legal issues, get a seedbox and use that; if you've got a fast internet connection a vpn might be a cheaper option.

historically copyright groups have downloaded a torrent, then grabbed the list of peers from the tracker and tried to commit cheeky legal rapings that way, so not seeding the completed file is not going to make a difference - you seed the partial file until it's fully downloaded anyway.

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Re: Should a person use TOR when pirating
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2014, 03:26:29 am »
It's pretty rare for anyone to actually bring a lawsuit for copyright infringement these days anyway, normally your ISP will just tell you to stop and suspend service if you ignore them enough times.

The bigger issue, however, is the moral risk of leeching and not seeding. Esp. if it's a public tracker. Kant would very disappointed in that kind of behavior.

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Re: Should a person use TOR when pirating
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2014, 03:31:46 am »
It's pretty rare for anyone to actually bring a lawsuit for copyright infringement these days anyway, normally your ISP will just tell you to stop and suspend service if you ignore them enough times.

The bigger issue, however, is the moral risk of leeching and not seeding. Esp. if it's a public tracker. Kant would very disappointed in that kind of behavior.
Seems  these days they might also threaten to sue and get you to pay some ridiculous out of court settlement. Which maybe they wouldn't pursue, but fuck that noise. Still I wouldn't worry about it too much SBT, I think the movie/tv industry cares the most. In addition to not seeding afterwards, set your upload speed to 0. Or use someone elses internet altogether.

Alternatively torrenting is encouraged on the i2p network. Not sure on speeds never done it, its a cool concept though. If you try out i2p give it some time to fire up, the service is like torrenting where the more peers the faster your connection - or something like that I don't really know.

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Re: Should a person use TOR when pirating
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 05:10:15 am »
Seems  these days they might also threaten to sue and get you to pay some ridiculous out of court settlement. Which maybe they wouldn't pursue, but fuck that noise. Still I wouldn't worry about it too much SBT, I think the movie/tv industry cares the most. In addition to not seeding afterwards, set your upload speed to 0. Or use someone elses internet altogether.

What I'm saying though is that we're pretty much past the era of rights holders trying to battle it out in the courts with individual rights holders. If they want to blow money on enforcing their rights then they go after original uploaders, people ripping from physical media and stuff. Apparently there's this secondary collection market where rights holders authorize a third party to essentially extort money out of leechers but since they never actually take the claims to court it's a fangless threat.

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Re: Should a person use TOR when pirating
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2014, 11:01:07 am »
krane says the DHT tracker protocol will leak your IP even if you use it through tor because it's negotiated UDP, so there's that

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Re: Should a person use TOR when pirating
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2014, 01:00:46 pm »
Nope, use a VPN.