Shake n Bake Recipie #100 - My Detailed Contribution by Li Part 1 of 2

[ChronicBoom!]

Noticed that it hadn't been mentioned anything about a second pull from the fuel (the part before evaporating the water, so someone went ahead and tried it, and holy shit. I heard the stuff was actually very decent.

Edit: Oh man, I think this may have been a big loss all along!   
It does say this in the OP.
A lot of dope has been flushed down the toilet...

[PurpleCow]

Noticed that it hadn't been mentioned anything about a second pull from the fuel (the part before evaporating the water, so someone went ahead and tried it, and holy shit. I heard the stuff was actually very decent.

Edit: Oh man, I think this may have been a big loss all along!   
It does say this in the OP.
A lot of dope has been flushed down the toilet...

Step 51 is the second pull. " Repeat the water wash of the fuel, the addition of the 1/4 cup of water, the PH neutralizing (This time it will only probably need 2-3 drops of HCL total), and the collection of the water/meth once again to the same evaporation plate"

[ChronicBoom!]

Yeah, I saw that. Kinda feel stupid.

[ChronicBoom!]

Out of curiousity here. If someone dropped below the target pH is there any way to bring it back up?

[PurpleCow]

Out of curiousity here. If someone dropped below the target pH is there any way to bring it back up?

Did you save some "bring back fuel"?

[ChronicBoom!]

Adding some fuel will increase pH? Can it be new fuel or does it need to be set aside before adding acid?

Not having problems with, it this is just something hat i thought i saw somewhere but don't remember where

Would definitely be a useful bit of information.
I'm also assuming adding water would be a waste of time.

[ChronicBoom!]

There is somebody hoping that there is another way otherwise there has been a real waste that happened

[ChronicBoom!]

Wondering if just adding some new clean fuel would work for the pH problem or would it fuck your stuff up? Or maybe use lye to make it basic and then acid to neutralize?
Or could you make "bring back fuel" somehow without needing  PSE?

[PurpleCow]

Wondering if just adding some new clean fuel would work for the pH problem or would it fuck your stuff up? Or maybe use lye to make it basic and then acid to neutralize?
Or could you make "bring back fuel" somehow without needing  PSE?

Try mixing some new fuel with lye to raise the ph level. Water wash the fuel a couple of times. Use the new fuel to raise your old fuel to ph 7.

[PurpleCow]

http://web.archive.org/web/20130821044403/http://totse2.com/showthread.php?15335-Shake-n-Bake-Recipie-100-My-Detailed-Contribution

[DeJaVu]

Must be charged fuel from the reaction... Fresh fuel will neither help nor hurt...

After rxn and water washes, set aside maybe 20ml of fuel as bring back...

Not a bad idea to keep 20 - 50ml of bring back fuel in the freezer in case you ever come up short after a run.

If you are just slightly acidic, tap water will actually bring the ph back up a little...assuming you are not using well water.

I believe that the OP of this recepie finds the following to be the simplest and best route for her:

1) set aside about 20ml of bring back fuel
2) add about 10-15ml of bottled water to fuel/Neff solution
3) add 2 drops of muriatic acid at a time to neutralize solution ( shake well after each addition)
4) continue until the fuel goes cloudy and will not go clear again after shaking (you will be able to tell...the fuel should be completely clear prior to this process and Will continue returning to completely clear after shaking until PH drops below 7...then it will be obviously foggy)
5)add the 15-20ml of the bring back fuel and shake and the fuel Will be clear again (indicating that the PH is above 7)
6)seperate and evap water.

No need to waste time/money/effort with testing PH repeatedly as PH will likely be somewhere in the 7.2-7.5 range which is great. (Feel free to test the final PH if it sets your mind at ease.

If you go far below neural and do not have resources to bring back, you can alwayz rebase the meth and then do another a/b extraction, but I don't have the time to cover it now...

Great link there Purple Cow.

[foucault]

I miss pinghat

[VenomStallone]

A good link indeed seeing as I searched less than a week ago for it and found nothing.

Anyhow, This TEK doesnt work anymore, metal doesnt transition to the liquid faze and RXN doesnt m1lksh4ke like it used to. Looks like the gup chuck was countered after the effs bees saw the popularity of this tek on T0T$3two.whatever website. 

Note to sanctuary:

BLTC is where its at. Keep it there.

Need for EssNBee Ongoing Contribution Thread #001.  Pronto

[DeJaVu]

Funny coincidence... I found a paper next to a trash can at a gas station that referred to a couple of similar experiences recently... It interested me, as most things do, so I took it home and typed it out for future research planning to take the original to the local authorities, but Damn if I didn't lose it... Old age I guess... Anyway, here's some of what must have been notes or a research journal entry or some shit like that:

First 2 batches after takin a few months off:

First batch:
Bout 6 grams of generic red hots (simple fuel wash of pill mesh and decant) then gup chucked...
Normal reactants, Hexane, Li x3...
Li -> LI(NH3)4 just as smooth and easy as ever...

Observations upon addition of pill mass:
Fuel is dark and cloudy from li saturation, but never seems to achieve the thicker "chocolate milk" appearance expected when the pse bases...
After completely exhausting the Li/bronze:
The fuel remained dark and cloudy...took 5-10 min for the dark cloud mass to settle 1/2 way down the bottle... Never formed a the expected Li Amide distinct Gray Sandy looking top layer above the reactants...

Filtering:
Filters we're full of a of a lavender colored slime as the clear fuel was filtered...

Final product:
Potentcy was actually surprisingly pretty good - 7 out of 10
Purity was noticeably lower than expected... Color a little off when melted... Obvious black residue left as it burned up... 5 out of 10
Yield: expected about 4g ma... Ended with 3g... 5 out of 10

Second batch:
Same other than bout 3g pse and Li x2...
Maybe most beautiful TMS ever done... Fuel maintained with a nice light blue tint... Complete beautiful puddle of bronze mercury floating on the fuel...

Addition of pse...
Same issues as first batch but even more pronounced this time...

Potentcy - sucked - 5 out of 10
Purity -  same issues as batch one with noticeable pinwheels throughout dried crystals and very slow to crack back when melted. 3 out of 10
Yield - expected about 1.9g ma... Ended with about 1.4g ma and pse - 4 out of 10


Just thought I would pass that along as it seemed to have some relavence... I guess the smart chem enthusiast would do nearly identical rxns...1 With gup chilucked and one extracted...

Personally, I am FAR more intrigued by the beez and the effs and the EssNbeez... My friend (or bff as the kids say now) sayz that the best trip experience she ever had was getting lost in the web chasing beez...wondering if it was a never ending rabbit hole or is she had simply imagined the trail she thought she was following in her state of delirium...

I was awed by brief communications and interaction with an uncle that I sadly didn't maintain contact with... I never could follow all of his technical writing, which was like poetry, but I guess that is to be expected without formal trading in the art of that cryptic language...

Maybe if I had been in a different circle a different time... who knows... So many mysteries and such a short life to acquire knowledge...

Y'all rock.

[VenomStallone]

Yes Deja, 2 runs would be ideal. But as for an extraction, resources are slim and a tek for said extraction is beyond grasp unless you can hunt one up. I know there was one on  t0t$3ttwo before it got raided.  The Straight to Bee i believe? But thats old shit that probably wouldnt work on todays gaks.

Anyone got a workaround or shall they try the microwave?