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Re: Jesus Camp
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2014, 05:51:50 pm »
we're all aspects of god, living out our existences for the very sake of experience

This book I am reading about ancient people's belief systems describes our existence as like leaves on a tree...we think we are all individuals, and we are, to some degree, but there are stems and branches connecting everything together.  When we die, the leaf falls away but the tree remains.

Also, about that thread?  Fuck Bradley B for saying he is going to do something for me and then never doing it.  I hate that. 
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Re: Jesus Camp
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2014, 05:52:59 pm »
we're all aspects of god, living out our existences for the very sake of experience

This book I am reading about ancient people's belief systems describes our existence as like leaves on a tree...we think we are all individuals, and we are, to some degree, but there are stems and branches connecting everything together.  When we die, the leaf falls away but the tree remains.

Also, about that thread?  Fuck Bradley B for saying he is going to do something for me and then never doing it.  I hate that.

Do you believe that sorta thing?


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Re: Jesus Camp
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2014, 05:56:21 pm »
I believe the aliens dropped us off to mine for gold and they're going to be really pissed when they come back and see what we've done.
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Re: Jesus Camp
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2014, 06:04:23 pm »
Do you believe that sorta thing?

I will tentatively say yes, but only for one reason:  That there is another layer of 'us' below our personality and ego.  Let's call it the 'autopilot'.  When one is awake and active, there is a 'personality' that sort of 'oversees' our consciousness.  We will call this 'you'.  It is the 'you' that makes you 'you'.  Your name, your opinions, preferences, emotions, all part of the whole package. 

When you think of 'thinking', you think of how your brain controls your body, and how your mind looks out through your eyes and processes information.  And when you are awake and going about your day you are 'thinking'.  I mean consciously 'thinking', like with the inner voice and everything.

But have you ever had those times, like lets say when you are driving, and you realize you have 'spaced' it and cannot remember the last minute or so?  Even though you may have even sat through red lights and drove perfectly normally?  Or sleepwalking.  Your motor skills function well enough to walk and move around, but the 'you' part of your brain is not there.  Some people even do complex tasks while sleepwalking like getting dressed etc.  Anyone ever heard of those people who take too much xanax and drive around and cannot remember it later?

I watch true crime shows alot, and this one guy and his wife were murdered in bed, bashed their skulls in with a crowbar, and the guys brain was destroyed, yet a while after the killer left, he was still alive, and he got out of bed, pouring blood from his cracked skull, and went and got dressed, made breakfast, and got the newspaper from his porch, all in 'autopilot'.  Then he dropped dead with the newspaper in his hand in the front hall.

These are forms of trance states, which are illustrative of how what we think of as 'us' is just an overlay over another sentience, one who is somewhat robotic yet still functional.  So my best guess is, if there is some 'autopilot' underneath our 'egos', maybe that is a clue or indicator of the 'stem of the tree'
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Re: Jesus Camp
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2014, 06:10:28 pm »
My moms yoga instructors husband joined the buddhist army that we dont talk about and play dumb about and left her and the kids and went to Syria and Yemen and probly some other places. Im sorry I lied to you before zek I know it reflects poorly on the faith.

Theres a Jew camp in my province thats held in an ironic and hilarious sounding town

Life is funny sometimes.

I know nothing of Jesus camp but it sounds like a scary movie.
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2014, 06:10:42 pm »
Do you believe that sorta thing?

I will tentatively say yes, but only for one reason:  That there is another layer of 'us' below our personality and ego.  Let's call it the 'autopilot'.  When one is awake and active, there is a 'personality' that sort of 'oversees' our consciousness.  We will call this 'you'.  It is the 'you' that makes you 'you'.  Your name, your opinions, preferences, emotions, all part of the whole package. 

When you think of 'thinking', you think of how your brain controls your body, and how your mind looks out through your eyes and processes information.  And when you are awake and going about your day you are 'thinking'.  I mean consciously 'thinking', like with the inner voice and everything.

But have you ever had those times, like lets say when you are driving, and you realize you have 'spaced' it and cannot remember the last minute or so?  Even though you may have even sat through red lights and drove perfectly normally?  Or sleepwalking.  Your motor skills function well enough to walk and move around, but the 'you' part of your brain is not there.  Some people even do complex tasks while sleepwalking like getting dressed etc.  Anyone ever heard of those people who take too much xanax and drive around and cannot remember it later?

I watch true crime shows alot, and this one guy and his wife were murdered in bed, bashed their skulls in with a crowbar, and the guys brain was destroyed, yet a while after the killer left, he was still alive, and he got out of bed, pouring blood from his cracked skull, and went and got dressed, made breakfast, and got the newspaper from his porch, all in 'autopilot'.  Then he dropped dead with the newspaper in his hand in the front hall.

These are forms of trance states, which are illustrative of how what we think of as 'us' is just an overlay over another sentience, one who is somewhat robotic yet still functional.  So my best guess is, if there is some 'autopilot' underneath our 'egos', maybe that is a clue or indicator of the 'stem of the tree'

But what you're talking about there is individual learned habit.  Wouldn't the tree be better represented as like the collective unconscious?  Something deeper than putting on clothes.


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Re: Jesus Camp
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2014, 06:12:05 pm »
Lets gooo JESUS

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Re: Jesus Camp
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2014, 06:12:26 pm »
If 'you' is shut off where does 'learning' factor in?  Without a 'you' there is no 'habits'.  Just mr. and ms. 'autopilot' running off of the circadian clock attached to it.
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2014, 06:12:30 pm »
My moms yoga instructors husband joined the buddhist army that we dont talk about and play dumb about and left her and the kids and went to Syria and Yemen and probly some other places. Im sorry I lied to you before zek I know it reflects poorly on the faith.

Theres a Jew camp in my province thats held in an ironic and hilarious sounding town

Life is funny sometimes.

I know nothing of Jesus camp but it sounds like a scary movie.

What's the Buddhist Army?  I haven't been keeping up with this stuff.  Some kinda hateful sect of Buddhism that advocates war?


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Re: Jesus Camp
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2014, 06:14:02 pm »
Buddhists will fucking kill muslims any chance they get
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Re: Jesus Camp
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2014, 06:15:21 pm »
If 'you' is shut off where does 'learning' factor in?  Without a 'you' there is no 'habits'.  Just mr. and ms. 'autopilot' running off the circadian clock attached to it.

I guess I see what you're saying.  Maybe that sort of thing is some evidence of a tree of life.

What do you think about collective experience and understanding, though?  To me that's an infinitely more interesting topic than dead people making breakfast.


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Re: Jesus Camp
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2014, 06:18:02 pm »
What do you think about collective experience and understanding, though?  To me that's an infinitely more interesting topic than dead people making breakfast.

Basically you are asking me what I think of books?  Because books and databases are as close to 'collective experience and understanding' as it gets for humans. 
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2014, 06:18:14 pm »
Its basically the "pure lands" variation of defense thats applied to the whole world wherever there is strife that deviates from the pure lands perception of what entails peace and heaven on earth. Its "defence forces" but they travel and do humanitarian stuff with military style training. They dont really pick up am AK and get on the front lines but theyre in there in the conflict. I really feel like I shouldnt be talking about this because its kinda hush hush and Im only a lvl 1 and missed level 2 training last friday and saturday.

None of this sounds true
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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2014, 06:21:27 pm »
Buddhists will fucking kill muslims any chance they get

Ya I never heard about them going to Sri Lanka to join the BBM or whatever because theyre tats over there but Im sure that doesnt really make a dif. My city has a lot of muslims and they seem to get along fine and youll see some lebs at the open meditations the few times Ive gone. From what I understand in Sri Lanka its more "assimilate faggots" than any actual hate
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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2014, 06:43:11 pm »
Do you believe that sorta thing?

I will tentatively say yes, but only for one reason:  That there is another layer of 'us' below our personality and ego.  Let's call it the 'autopilot'.  When one is awake and active, there is a 'personality' that sort of 'oversees' our consciousness.  We will call this 'you'.  It is the 'you' that makes you 'you'.  Your name, your opinions, preferences, emotions, all part of the whole package. 

When you think of 'thinking', you think of how your brain controls your body, and how your mind looks out through your eyes and processes information.  And when you are awake and going about your day you are 'thinking'.  I mean consciously 'thinking', like with the inner voice and everything.

But have you ever had those times, like lets say when you are driving, and you realize you have 'spaced' it and cannot remember the last minute or so?  Even though you may have even sat through red lights and drove perfectly normally?  Or sleepwalking.  Your motor skills function well enough to walk and move around, but the 'you' part of your brain is not there.  Some people even do complex tasks while sleepwalking like getting dressed etc.  Anyone ever heard of those people who take too much xanax and drive around and cannot remember it later?

I watch true crime shows alot, and this one guy and his wife were murdered in bed, bashed their skulls in with a crowbar, and the guys brain was destroyed, yet a while after the killer left, he was still alive, and he got out of bed, pouring blood from his cracked skull, and went and got dressed, made breakfast, and got the newspaper from his porch, all in 'autopilot'.  Then he dropped dead with the newspaper in his hand in the front hall.

These are forms of trance states, which are illustrative of how what we think of as 'us' is just an overlay over another sentience, one who is somewhat robotic yet still functional.  So my best guess is, if there is some 'autopilot' underneath our 'egos', maybe that is a clue or indicator of the 'stem of the tree'

Yeah, when I have to do hours of monotonous, mind-numbing labor, I always space out and go into auto-pilot.  If I were not able to do this, I would murder people.
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