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Offline JanitorJesus

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Re: fed up with life
« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2014, 11:38:09 pm »
You're not SOL; there are always options.  Suboxone script?  You could just get clean.  It's rough but come on.  If a drug has that much control of your life it may be time to quit.

Don't blame the system for your not wanting to be productive haha.

As far as productivity in general goes, most people can't really be productive (or at least sustain an appropriate level) while in opiate withdrawal, or while in/out of opiate withdrawal on a daily basis. This is why Methadone/Suboxone treatment is beneficial.

I guess if we just followed your leadership and told all opiate addicts in America to 'get clean' we wouldn't have this problem. After reading the post I initially replied to, I kinda took you for a different kind of person, that was my mistake.

As far as me personally 'blaming the system' (whatever that even means) in regards to any recent lack of productivity on my part, I've been a productive member of society since I was 15, and the reason for my absence at work has nothing to do with 'not wanting to be productive'.
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Re: fed up with life
« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2014, 12:32:17 am »
As far as productivity in general goes, most people can't really be productive (or at least sustain an appropriate level) while in opiate withdrawal, or while in/out of opiate withdrawal on a daily basis. This is why Methadone/Suboxone treatment is beneficial.

I guess if we just followed your leadership and told all opiate addicts in America to 'get clean' we wouldn't have this problem. After reading the post I initially replied to, I kinda took you for a different kind of person, that was my mistake.

As far as me personally 'blaming the system' (whatever that even means) in regards to any recent lack of productivity on my part, I've been a productive member of society since I was 15, and the reason for my absence at work has nothing to do with 'not wanting to be productive'.

Sorry if I seemed rude, or ignorant.  You'll probably roll your eyes at this, but I've been where you are.  Spent my early 20s as a junkie.

I know withdrawal hurts.  And it sucks being sick.  No one wants to go through that.  It's a bad place to be, and addiction isn't a problem with an easy answer.  I definitely think that doctors should be allowed to prescribe methadone and other medications as they see fit, and that people in your position could be helped by such measures.  But your reality right now seems to be one lacking the medical options you would prefer to use.

That sucks, but it doesn't mean you're SOL.  You don't have to anything about your present situation, as you well know.  I wouldn't think less of a person for deciding to be hopeless, as I've been there over and over myself.  But your situation isn't hopeless.  Your American citizenship and first world privileges don't have to be wasted.  It's your life, and no one else's.

Complain all you want about the crappy system and how unfair it is.  We're in agreement there.  But if you're saying on a public message board that you're hopeless because of x and y outside forces, I'm going to disagree.


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Re: fed up with life
« Reply #62 on: October 03, 2014, 01:07:45 am »
My bad, took what you said the wrong way.

Also sorry if I took a part in hijacking this thread a little bit, hopefully the OP can respond with his own thoughts on whatever subject..

Anyway, you are right equanimity. My main complaint is that, living in America, I, and no one else for that matter, should have certain (in this case opiate addiction) medical issues decided upon based on rather or not a doctor or doctors 'agree' with a certain method. For example, I had to deal with a doctor who told me he wouldn't help me "Replace one addiction with another."
If you've done any type of research or thought about the subject at hand very much at all, you'd realize what absolute bullshit that statement is. And BTW, this was the local 'addiction specialist'. I especially agreed with your point that we as citizens and people should be able to make our own informed decisions based on what we know. It's so frustrating not being able to just go to a doctor and tell them what you want, or need. They either feel entitled to control or fear losing their licenses. It's such a crock of shit. I feel like society hasn't adapted to the fact we live in an 'information age'. Literally anyone (of proper mental capacity) can learn anything. Certain knowledge that used to be valued is now public and available to literally almost anyone, at least here in America.

I pay taxes, I work, I do my fucking duties as a citizen even though I don't necessarily want to; I should be able to live my private life as I see fit, even if that's as an opiate addict. The way I see it, each and every fucking one of us has a crutch. As long as you don't use your crutch to beat on people, it shouldn't be taken away from you. Alienating certain people and using scapegoats only serves to create crime and violence, which is probably what they really want anyway, but I digress.

Anyway, I don't want to hijack OP's thread anymore and I hope OP is hangin in and doin alright.
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Re: fed up with life
« Reply #63 on: October 03, 2014, 01:33:52 pm »
Yeah tell me about it dude. Full price for a missed appointment. I wish so bad we had a Methadone clinic around here.

Why isn't there one?  Those places make fucking millions.  Our state regulated them so there was only certain counties that had them.

Yeah, where I live there are 4 methadone clinics within a mile radius within each other. It took me about 15 minutes to get there (by car with limited traffic). And I live in a pretty nice area, but I do live in the Baltimore/Washington metropolitan area.