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Offline Lanny

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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2014, 02:20:49 am »
IME that isn't always the case, especially in communities like this one.  And even when someone is willing to actually take part in a discussion, most of the discussions had don't revolve around proving anything at all.  What's your point?

What's your point? I want him to justify his claim, I think that's a reasonable request but if it's not I guess he can just leave the thread or something.

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Proving a theory and defending a theory are two different things Lanny.

Sure, so what? I've never asked for definitive proof, I've asked for a defense of claims made.

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So what if someone can't prove that reality is subjective?

Then a rational person should not accept the position in the same way a rational person declines to believe in all baseless claims.

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Are you going to stop believing that people have their own subjective perspective?

That was not the position presented thus not the one I'm asking for a defense of.

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Who cares?  People are going to think whatever they think despite what you think because, at least to some extent, reality is subjective. Why does that even matter to you?

I care. Obviously the total absence of an objective reality has really significant philosophical implications.

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Should we now similarly expect you to prove that reality is objective?  If someone disagrees with you, wouldn't that qualify as evidence of subjectivity?

No, because I haven't claimed that reality is objective, in totality or in part. Someone disagreeing with me is evidence that our experience is somewhat subjective, sure, but that's something entirely different from what was claimed.

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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2014, 03:13:18 am »
Someone disagreeing with me is evidence that our experience is somewhat subjective, sure, but that's something entirely different from what was claimed.

No it isn't.
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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2014, 03:20:19 am »
there is no reality

only the perception of reality

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experience is somewhat subjective

Yes, actually, those are very different claims.

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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2014, 03:29:40 am »
there is no reality

only the perception of reality

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experience is somewhat subjective

Yes, actually, those are very different claims.

No they're not.
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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2014, 03:35:31 am »
Why?

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Re: Living Reality
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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2014, 04:29:47 am »
I have no idea what you mean by basic physics, or how I don't touch anything.

http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/why-you-can-never-actually-touch-anything/

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"You will see that the purely electro-static repulsion between electrons is not the only reason why you hover above your chair. In the normal case, it’s about as strong as the Pauli Exclusion Principle when it comes to pushing things apart,. It’s actually a combination of these two effects dominating the actual behavior. By that, I am speaking of the unbelievable idea that electrons know where every other electron is, and they try to avoid each other as much as possible, resulting in an exponential decrease in the force between electrons, even without the electromagnetic repulsion in play.”

proof reality is alive. electrons know what's up. bunch of sketchy cunts by the sound of it.

/thread

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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2014, 05:00:07 am »
I have no idea what you mean by basic physics, or how I don't touch anything.

http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/why-you-can-never-actually-touch-anything/

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"You will see that the purely electro-static repulsion between electrons is not the only reason why you hover above your chair. In the normal case, it’s about as strong as the Pauli Exclusion Principle when it comes to pushing things apart,. It’s actually a combination of these two effects dominating the actual behavior. By that, I am speaking of the unbelievable idea that electrons know where every other electron is, and they try to avoid each other as much as possible, resulting in an exponential decrease in the force between electrons, even without the electromagnetic repulsion in play.”

proof reality is alive. electrons know what's up. bunch of sketchy cunts by the sound of it.

/thread

Dead cells have the same ideas too. You're telling me rotting corpses are also alive?

//thread.

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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2014, 05:43:38 am »
my feelings and drug induced ramblings are more important than evidence or reality

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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2014, 05:47:57 am »
my feelings and drug induced ramblings are more important than evidence or reality

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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2014, 10:01:38 am »
I have no idea what you mean by basic physics, or how I don't touch anything.

http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/why-you-can-never-actually-touch-anything/

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"You will see that the purely electro-static repulsion between electrons is not the only reason why you hover above your chair. In the normal case, it’s about as strong as the Pauli Exclusion Principle when it comes to pushing things apart,. It’s actually a combination of these two effects dominating the actual behavior. By that, I am speaking of the unbelievable idea that electrons know where every other electron is, and they try to avoid each other as much as possible, resulting in an exponential decrease in the force between electrons, even without the electromagnetic repulsion in play.”

proof reality is alive. electrons know what's up. bunch of sketchy cunts by the sound of it.

/thread

Dead cells have the same ideas too. You're telling me rotting corpses are also alive?

//thread.

Part of the circle of life, sure.  Also if you can "never touch anything" and all the electrons in "you" are avoiding each other then what are you?  Pretty interesting stuff.

Claiming your feelings are important,  Lanny, is subjective.
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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2014, 10:17:01 am »
I have no idea what you mean by basic physics, or how I don't touch anything.

http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/why-you-can-never-actually-touch-anything/

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"You will see that the purely electro-static repulsion between electrons is not the only reason why you hover above your chair. In the normal case, it’s about as strong as the Pauli Exclusion Principle when it comes to pushing things apart,. It’s actually a combination of these two effects dominating the actual behavior. By that, I am speaking of the unbelievable idea that electrons know where every other electron is, and they try to avoid each other as much as possible, resulting in an exponential decrease in the force between electrons, even without the electromagnetic repulsion in play.”

proof reality is alive. electrons know what's up. bunch of sketchy cunts by the sound of it.

/thread

Dead cells have the same ideas too. You're telling me rotting corpses are also alive?

//thread.

Part of the circle of life, sure.  Also if you can "never touch anything" and all the electrons in "you" are avoiding each other then what are you?  Pretty interesting stuff.

The question you pose has no defined answer.

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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2014, 10:29:19 am »
Sounds right to me.
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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2014, 03:02:46 pm »
Claiming your feelings are important,  Lanny, is subjective.

I'll take "Sarcasm" for 400, Alex.

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Re: Living Reality
« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2014, 05:13:29 pm »
Claiming your feelings are important,  Lanny, is subjective.

I'll take "Sarcasm" for 400, Alex.

What's your point?
All of the true things I am about to tell you are shameless lies.
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