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Jack The Ripper Identity proven thru DNA
« on: September 07, 2014, 03:07:40 am »
It was Kosminski the polish hairdresser. He was suspected of being the Ripper at the time of the murders.

More about this here:

<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746321/Jack-Ripper-unmasked-How-amateur-sleuth-used-DNA-breakthrough-identify-Britains-notorious-criminal-126-years-string-terrible-murders.html#ixzz3CaQPIrlx>

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746321/Jack-Ripper-unmasked-How-amateur-sleuth-used-DNA-breakthrough-identify-Britains-notorious-criminal-126-years-string-terrible-murders.html#ixzz3CaQPIrlx

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Re: Jack The Ripper Identity poven thru DNA
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2014, 03:14:55 am »
Well I just lost money.
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Re: Jack The Ripper Identity proven thru DNA
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2014, 06:55:53 pm »
I think sometimes legends should just be left as they are, rather than some glory-hunting asshole spoiling the fun. I'd have kept the results to myself and quietly smiled on the inside; it's not as if this is going to feature on crimestoppers.


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Re: Jack The Ripper Identity proven thru DNA
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2014, 02:44:55 am »
Honestly a waste of resources

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Re: Jack The Ripper Identity proven thru DNA
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2014, 03:13:51 am »
That's all good and well, but unless these finds are peer reviewed by other scientists in the field i won't jump to conclusions.


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Re: Jack The Ripper Identity proven thru DNA
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2014, 03:17:24 am »
im not sure i believe the line that the scarf went this long with viable DNA

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Re: Jack The Ripper Identity proven thru DNA
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2014, 12:20:21 pm »
im not sure i believe the line that the scarf went this long with viable DNA

DNA can exist for thousands and maybe millions of years.

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As far as human genetic material goes, the record for oldest Neanderthal DNA is held by a 100,000-year-old sample found in a Belgian cave. The longest-lasting sample of human DNA was discovered in northeastern Spain, and boasts a survival age of 7000 years. In both cases, techniques pioneered by Dr. Rhonda Roby allowed researchers to use mitochondrial DNA rather than the type found in the cell nucleus; although mitochondrial DNA only contains only partial genetic information, it provides sufficient evidence for identification and is present in greater abundance than nuclear DNA, increasing its odds of surviving.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/48815/how-long-does-dna-last


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Re: Jack The Ripper Identity proven thru DNA
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2014, 12:03:30 am »
you missed the part where it is contingent on ideal circumstances.  dna on a scarf, existing for decades in non-ideal circumstances, being continuously contaminated, is NOT the ideal circumstance that they were talking about.

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Re: Jack The Ripper Identity proven thru DNA
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2014, 12:12:26 am »
So many people were being killed off in England in those years that maybe the hairdresser  did kill that hooker but the others were probably killed by others.  These were the first murders that were highly covered by the media so a or many copy cat killers were highly probable
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Re: Jack The Ripper Identity proven thru DNA
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2014, 11:39:21 am »
you missed the part where it is contingent on ideal circumstances.  dna on a scarf, existing for decades in non-ideal circumstances, being continuously contaminated, is NOT the ideal circumstance that they were talking about.
 

You missed the part where readable human DNA was found in a Belgian cave after 100,000 years.

Or maybe you are of the opinion that the floor of a cave meets your idea of an ideal condition for preserving DNA.

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Re: Jack The Ripper Identity proven thru DNA
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2014, 02:52:25 am »
you missed the part where it is contingent on ideal circumstances.  dna on a scarf, existing for decades in non-ideal circumstances, being continuously contaminated, is NOT the ideal circumstance that they were talking about.
 

You missed the part where readable human DNA was found in a Belgian cave after 100,000 years.

Or maybe you are of the opinion that the floor of a cave meets your idea of an ideal condition for preserving DNA.

Actually yes

Those caves you're refering to are very dry and arid and the sediments were that DNA was discovered weren't disturbed since the day it came to be there.  They discovered a homo sapian from the last ice age around 10 000 bc, in switzerland in a glacier and were able to recover its DNA and most people i living in that country are decendants.

Those are two examples are ideal conditions.

After eating an entire bull, a mountain lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a hunter came along and shot him. The moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut.