ATTN: -SpectraL

[equanimity]

I hope you told Arnox before now.  This is obviously far from definitive proof, but it's a possibility they're the same people.

[Infinityshock]

For Arnox and the others who are wondering where all this CP shit really came from, I can fully attest to the fact that these attacks were going on for weeks before anyone from Zoklet even heard of Sanctuary. Constant and daily attacks identical to the ones being perpetrated against Sanctuary right now. And do you know where those identical attacks occurred in the weeks leading straight up to the migration and still going on as we speak? On #totse in SlashNET. And do you know who populates most of #totse on a daily basis? Well, the majority of that room belongs to the Zoklet circlejerkers fail-club, of course. Anyone who's not a part of their little circle who goes to #totse frequently can attest and speak as a first-hand witness to those identical attacks which have been occurring since weeks before the migration to Sanctuary. That little fact proves that these attacks are not from outside force, but do originate within the Zoklet Kidiot Club. The Zoklet Kidiot Club is the group of circlejerkers who got MAD because the Zoklet staff closed the infamous jailbait thread and began CP post attacks on #totse, where those same staff members who closed the infamous Zoklet jailbait thread reside daily. those same staff members who reside daily on #totse, who also closed the jailbait thread of Zoklet, are now frequenting this place, and that's why this place is now being attacked with CP. Connect all the dots and it's not hard to see the actual picture here.

no one gives a shit where it came from or why its coming

what amazes me is there is a simple solution that no one is acknowledging.  with the added benefit being someone goes to jail

[-SpectraL]

I hope you told Arnox before now.  This is obviously far from definitive proof, but it's a possibility they're the same people.

It IS the same people (although I wouldn't exactly call them people), and they're kidiots from Zoklet, and they're the ones who got MAD their jailbait thread got closed where they were posting borderline and outright CP. In fact, the staff here may be able to glean information from the Zoklet jailbait thread itself if the thread has been archived, and those IPs from those associated Zoklet posts in that thread, if they weren't made on a proxy in carelessness, would still show up in the Zoklet M&A's "One User Many Accounts" forum and their IP checker tool, which can check IPs from specific usernames and their posts.

[Lucifer]

what amazes me is there is a simple solution that no one is acknowledging.  with the added benefit being someone goes to jail

Tracking down the offenders this way is impossible if they're using Tor and have it properly configured. The admin will have logs containing the exit node IP addresses, but the feds can't do anything more than raid the locations of those servers.

[Infinityshock]

what amazes me is there is a simple solution that no one is acknowledging.  with the added benefit being someone goes to jail

Tracking down the offenders this way is impossible if they're using Tor and have it properly configured. The admin will have logs containing the exit node IP addresses, but the feds can't do anything more than raid the locations of those servers.

false

a network needs a location to resolve the flow of information no matter what spoofing technique is used.  for the information to flow, it has to know the location. if a LE agency is sufficiently motivated they can find the origin

[Lucifer]

false

a network needs a location to resolve the flow of information no matter what spoofing technique is used.  for the information to flow, it has to know the location. if a LE agency is sufficiently motivated they can find the origin

Research how Tor works and you will understand why you're wrong.

[Infinityshock]

false

a network needs a location to resolve the flow of information no matter what spoofing technique is used.  for the information to flow, it has to know the location. if a LE agency is sufficiently motivated they can find the origin

Research how Tor works and you will understand why you're wrong.

i know how tor works.  i know how the internet works.  i know how its possible to track down the source of information on the internet when tor...onion...blahblah... is used

[Lucifer]

i know how tor works.  i know how the internet works.  i know how its possible to track down the source of information on the internet when tor...onion...blahblah... is used

The only practical attack on Tor is time correlation. This is extremely resource intensive, and only possible if the attacker knows who they are targeting, and can actively monitor both sides of the network in order to correlate traffic . Otherwise, nobody, not even the NSA can deanonymize users.

[Infinityshock]

im not talking about an 'attack.'  im talking about simple resolution of the path through the net that the data is using.  the simplest way to explain it is two machines that are talking to each other need to know how to talk to each other. whether theyre talking to each other next door via unsecured comms or talking to each other 20 miles away through different other machines in an attempt to disguise their origin doesnt matter, they still are talking to each other.  im not saying finding the specific machine is as easy as calling up an ISP as law enforcement with a signed judicial subpoena for the billing address, but it isnt as difficult as you seem to think it is.

NSA is getting entirely too much credit.  theyre not the only kids on the block that know how to play ball.  and an overrated ballgame at that

the point is...if the cp spammer were reported to the appropriate LE agency, repeatedly and often, and they gave slightly more than two fucks, the spammers would be identified.  they wouldnt tell you who they were, but they would be dealt with

[Lanny]

im not talking about an 'attack.'  im talking about simple resolution of the path through the net that the data is using.  the simplest way to explain it is two machines that are talking to each other need to know how to talk to each other. whether theyre talking to each other next door via unsecured comms or talking to each other 20 miles away through different other machines in an attempt to disguise their origin doesnt matter, they still are talking to each other.  im not saying finding the specific machine is as easy as calling up an ISP as law enforcement with a signed judicial subpoena for the billing address, but it isnt as difficult as you seem to think it is.

NSA is getting entirely too much credit.  theyre not the only kids on the block that know how to play ball.  and an overrated ballgame at that

the point is...if the cp spammer were reported to the appropriate LE agency, repeatedly and often, and they gave slightly more than two fucks, the spammers would be identified.  they wouldnt tell you who they were, but they would be dealt with

I don't think you appreciate that "resolution of the path through the net that the data is using" is actually quite difficult. As a normal forum operator all you have is an address of an exit node and a timestamp. Even if you could subpoena the ISP and find who the exit node is how do you propose  to find the prior relay node? If you can get records out of the ISP then maybe you can get a list of X more potential previous relays which is just that many more subpoenas. Plus you'll never know when you've actually found the originator because you can't tell the difference between relayed data and original data. You couldn't get make this work in a reasonable amount of time if you were looking the bomb that was about to blow up new york, no one is going to fuck with it for kiddy diddlers (esp when we all already know it's spectroll).

[Lucifer]

im not talking about an 'attack.'  im talking about simple resolution of the path through the net that the data is using.  the simplest way to explain it is two machines that are talking to each other need to know how to talk to each other. whether theyre talking to each other next door via unsecured comms or talking to each other 20 miles away through different other machines in an attempt to disguise their origin doesnt matter, they still are talking to each other.  im not saying finding the specific machine is as easy as calling up an ISP as law enforcement with a signed judicial subpoena for the billing address, but it isnt as difficult as you seem to think it is.

NSA is getting entirely too much credit.  theyre not the only kids on the block that know how to play ball.  and an overrated ballgame at that

the point is...if the cp spammer were reported to the appropriate LE agency, repeatedly and often, and they gave slightly more than two fucks, the spammers would be identified.  they wouldnt tell you who they were, but they would be dealt with

Nope. Onion routing makes what you're describing impossible unless cooperating LE agencies are in control of a majority of relays, and even then it would be extraordinarily difficult to keep track of one user out of millions moving throughout a network of 6000 nodes. They're not going to waste time and resources trying.

[Dumpster Slut]

bleh, can't wait till they get arrested.

[Michael Myers]

bleh, can't wait till they get arrested.

Same here.

[-SpectraL]

The staff here should have a private conversation with bazl, the OP from #totse. Even as recent as last night the same CP attackers who attacked this place were attacking #totse, and they do it every day over there. He may have some key information about them that you guys don't yet have. Even the best of attackers slip up. They could have left some traces or clues there, and bazl would have that.

[fanglekai]

bleh, can't wait till they get arrested.

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