So, with awareness and complete respect to the Thomas recipe for opiate/opioid withdrawal, I was thinking we, as in the BLTC userbase here on zoklet, could add even moreinformation to the collective amount of knowledge that the internet contains in relation to this matter. I'm also messing with different font types, as you have noticed. Fuck you.
I got the idea when I tried something new today that helped, and since I haven't read about it online (and I've read nearly everything about this online.. for some reason, it's what I like to do when I'm detoxing and losing my mind with discomfort. I guess it reminds my subconscious that it's going to pass, and that the world is aware of the severit of what I'm going through.
Anyways, I made a post today in the thread I made weeks ago about quitting opiates. I explained how I was absolutely starting to lose my mind & how I was starting to freak out because I'm on day 3 of dropping from 300-1200(or more occasionally) mg of oxy a day, or around the equivalent with different types of opiates/opioids, down to 60 mg per day. 1 CDN 40 (Fuck OxyNeo, I'm glad I saved a supply of the old-school regular oxycontins and didn't sell any to some people that wanted to buy some a few weeks ago.) and 4 5/325 percocets. After I made that post, someone I know brought me home some gravol (dimenhydrinate) and some cough syrup with dextromethorphan (DM) in it.
I've read a lot of things relating to taking the edge off of opiate withdrawal without actually taking opiates, and it IS known that DM does dosomething good for opioid dependence. I've heard that it prevents tolerance from occuring, or makes it occur more slowly, and I've heard that it prevents withdrawals from being at their worst. I have NOT, however, heard of anyone taking Dimenhydrinate (Gravol) for opiate withdrawal.
This helps the most in the sense that it causes a buzz, when taken at 200mg (for threshold, I'm guessing) and the buzz from it seems to allow you to stare off into one spot, kind of like you're experiencing depersonalization and you're nothing more than a thought in the air. To get THAT much from it, you'd need to take about 1500 mg, I'm guessing. I take 200-500 mg, or, have taken that much 4-5 times in the past couple of weeks since I realized that it helps with opiate problems.
When I took 200mg today, after writing that post explaining how I was starting to lose it with the withdrawals, a miracle happened. I nodded out, and woke up five hours later. To anyone facing withdrawal, getting those jolts where you have to throw your arms out or kick your legs every few seconds, and you're just lying there in misery uncomfortable in any position for longer than 2 seconds, it helps with that. Decent periods (edit* decent periods of sleep) is your best friend in withdrawal.
Anyways, that's my contribution for now. I might add the entire Thomas recipe, and every single piece of relation relating to this that I can find on the internet. I want to know every thing there is to take, every single daily ritual that can make this easier.. just ANY knowledge there is, all summed up together collectively in THIS thread. Everything. Every possible piece of knowledge there is about making this easier from the collective amount of minds that have been there or that have any information to offer. Not just for me.. lots of people are on the internet reading about what to do for opiate withdrawal. There's probably a million or more people online looking for stuff like this, only to find the same old things re-written on 5-6 different sites like I always do. The internet really doesn't have that much to offer about this. Will continue tomorrow.
Over the counter / No connects
Immodium AD / Loperamide (for all withdrawals)
Generic cough suppressant / DXM - Dextromethorphan (will help slightly in theraputic doses. may help a lot if you trip.)
Bayer / Aspirin (general analgesic)
Tylenol / Acetaminophen(general analgesic)
Aleve / Naproxen (general analgesic)
Advil - Motrin / Ibuprofen (general analgesic)
DLPA / DL-Phenylalanine (DLPA has been found to be most useful for chronic pain and depression.)**
Kratom (chew whole leaves) (it is a narcotic that has opiate like qualities.)
Poppy pods/seed products (it's opium, it'll "help" with your withdrawals.)
Prescribed / Street
Suboxone. Suboxone and Subutex / Buprenorphine (a semi-synthetic opiate with partial agonist and antagonist actions)
Revia, Depade and Vivitrol / Naltrexone (an opioid receptor antagonist, so all withdrawals)
Ultram / Tramadol
ANY NARCOTIC PAIN RELIEVER, OBVIOUSLY
Additional drugs include drugs that may indirectly alleviate opiate withdrawal symptoms[easiest-hardest to get]
Benadryl / DPH - Diphenhydramine (will help relax you)
Vitamin C (this gets depleted and makes you feel overall less healthy, so taking some will make you feel better)
Melatonin (will help with sleep and will help you be relaxed during the day)
Valerian Root ( " " )
ANY DISSOCIATIVE (relieves pain)
Dramamine, Gravol, and Vertirosan / Dimenhydrinate (relaxes you and will help you feel less nauseous/ puke.
ANY BENZO / BENZODIAZEPINE (will relax you and relieve muscle aches) http://www.erowid.org/pharms/benzodiaze ... pine.shtml
Things that you can do
Exercise (amazingly helps with everything but the runs and don't run while you're nauseous)
Eat healthy (fruits and vegetables, will help cleanse your body, making you feel better and shorten span of your withdrawals.)
Get sleep (this will be a problem, but it will improve your overall sense of well-being)
Smoke weed (unless it is real bad, this will help you feel less sick, imo)
Warm bath/shower (helps relax the muscles, and will help you if you have the chills. my legs feel frozen)
Heating pad (especially around the legs) ( " ")
Receiving a massage (help relax the muscles and will help your overall health)
Abstain from caffeine (as long as you aren't dependent on it) (it antagonizes the withdrawals)
*Loperamide, in large doses (40-100+mg) helps alleviate ALL withdrawal symptoms, unless it is some serious withdrawals.
Suboxone pretty much will stop and help any withdrawal you are going through.
**http://www.relieve-migraine-headache.com/dlpa.html
In the theoretical category, I've heard reports of breakthrough salvia trips(and perhaps other psychadelics) that help end addiction. I don't know if it does something to the brain to end the dependence, or if it is a choice made by some of the experiencers.
A post I made in another forum a few years ago. Feel free to critique.
