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Mikhail Gorbachev says a new cold war is upon us
« on: November 08, 2014, 11:12:32 pm »
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Re: Mikhail Gorbachev says a new cold war is upon us
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2014, 11:20:48 pm »
Wish there were a video of the speech. Any way you could paraphrase the what he is saying?
tl;dr: idealism will not un-rape you.

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Re: Mikhail Gorbachev says a new cold war is upon us
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2014, 11:27:30 pm »
He's saying after the Berlin Wall fell 25 years ago America was all FUCK YEAH FUCK U COMMIES, which basically led to increasing distance between the countries. Now he's saying the problems in the middle east and all over the world cannot be resolved without the US and Russia joining forces and that Europe is suffering because of this lack of trust and cooperation.

This part of the speech is very important:

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The end of the Cold War was just the beginning of the path towards a new Europe and a safer world order. But, instead of building new mechanisms and institutions of European security and pursuing a major demilitarization of European politics -- as promised, incidentally, in NATO's London Declaration -- the West, and particularly the United States, declared victory in the Cold War. Euphoria and triumphalism went to the heads of Western leaders. Taking advantage of Russia's weakening and the lack of a counterweight, they claimed monopoly leadership and domination in the world, refusing to heed words of caution from many of those present here.

The events of the past few months are consequences of short-sighted policies, of seeking to impose one's will and faits accomplis while ignoring the interests of one's partners.

A "shortlist" will suffice: the enlargement of NATO, Yugoslavia, particularly Kosovo, missile defense plans, Iraq, Libya, Syria.

To put it metaphorically, a blister has now turned into a bloody, festering wound.

And who is suffering the most from what's happening? I think the answer is more than clear: It is Europe, our common home.

Instead of becoming a leader of change in a global world, Europe has turned into an arena of political upheaval, of competition for spheres of influence and, finally, of military conflict. The consequence, inevitably, is Europe's weakening at a time when other centers of power and influence are gaining momentum. If this continues, Europe will lose a strong voice in world affairs and gradually become irrelevant.

Here in Berlin, during the anniversary of the fall of the wall, I have to note that all this has also had a negative effect on relations between Russia and Germany. Continuation of the current course could cause lasting damage to our relations, which have until now been exemplary. Let us remember that without Russian-German partnership there can be no security in Europe.