This is what the femenazis are mad about this week.

[MoaningLisa]

yeah, there are fucked up people in the world, its just a fact of life...blame the fucked up people, alright fine, but that isn't going to change that fact.

[Lanny]

that's what I was talking about - it's not about rights, it's about risk.

while I wouldn't say it was her fault, I personally would not be getting blackout drunk alone with some guy in his bedroom  if I knew he wanted to have sex with me.

nowhere does that say all men would do it either, just that it's a rather precarious position to be putting yourself in.

Fine, but when we start making bear analogies and the like there's this added implication, intentional or not, that the rapist is somehow not culpable in the same way most people wouldn't hold a bear responsible for mauling a person "covered in salmon guts and honey".

[constantinople]

Intoxicated people cannot legally give consent in a lot of states.

Just fyi.

Pro tip: Don't ever fuck a drunk chick you just met at the bar. Don't allow yourself to be seduced by one either. Stupidest shit you could ever do/asking for problems.  Once the firecracker is lit you run away, not towards it.

[fanglekai]

No, I understand simile just fine. You probably actually meant "analogy" though, they're different things.

In any case, I don't think anyone has a right to bait bears with food and expect not to be mauled. I do think everyone has the right to pass out in a person's bedroom without being raped.

A simile is a comparison using like or as. thanks for playing.

1. we know there are criminals and rapists out there.
2. women know this.
3. women need to take it upon themselves to have responsibility for their own safety and not rely on strangers, random people, or others to protect them
4. since women are equal to men and men are expected to protect themselves women have to do the same or they violate feminism

[Lanny]

No, I understand simile just fine. You probably actually meant "analogy" though, they're different things.

In any case, I don't think anyone has a right to bait bears with food and expect not to be mauled. I do think everyone has the right to pass out in a person's bedroom without being raped.

A simile is a comparison using like or as. thanks for playing.

1. we know there are criminals and rapists out there.
2. women know this.
3. women need to take it upon themselves to have responsibility for their own safety and not rely on strangers, random people, or others to protect them
4. since women are equal to men and men are expected to protect themselves women have to do the same or they violate feminism

Nice job not responding to my post btw

[Spectre]

No, I understand simile just fine. You probably actually meant "analogy" though, they're different things.

In any case, I don't think anyone has a right to bait bears with food and expect not to be mauled. I do think everyone has the right to pass out in a person's bedroom without being raped.

A simile is a comparison using like or as. thanks for playing.

1. we know there are criminals and rapists out there.
2. women know this.
3. women need to take it upon themselves to have responsibility for their own safety and not rely on strangers, random people, or others to protect them
4. since women are equal to men and men are expected to protect themselves women have to do the same or they violate feminism

this

growing up in a ghetto taught me a lot about personal safety sure you SHOULD be allowed to take a leisurely walk where you please but guess what you can't control other people and if you put yourself in a shit ass dumb situation and get popped for it you should realize you have the ability and the responsibility to extricate yourself from a place of danger or avoid it entirely if possible

[Σ]

1. we know there are criminals and rapists out there.
2. women know this.
3. women need to take it upon themselves to have responsibility for their own safety and not rely on strangers, random people, or others to protect them
4. since women are equal to men and men are expected to protect themselves women have to do the same or they violate feminism

Definitely going to keep this logic chain in mind if I ever cross some angry feminist screaming "MUH RAEP KULTER!"

[fanglekai]

1. we know there are criminals and rapists out there.
2. women know this.
3. women need to take it upon themselves to have responsibility for their own safety and not rely on strangers, random people, or others to protect them
4. since women are equal to men and men are expected to protect themselves women have to do the same or they violate feminism

Definitely going to keep this logic chain in mind if I ever cross some angry feminist screaming "MUH RAEP KULTER!"

It's incredibly easy to argue with feminists. Simply find a position that they're going on about and then think about how it relates to men. In this case it's a simple argument in favor of gender equality. Men are expected to protect themselves. We cannot even open doors for feminists without them spazzing * i can do it myself * . ok. so you can open doors for yourself. that self-determinacy means you can protect yourself against violent assailants too because you don't *need* a man's help. pwnt

[fanglekai]

No, I understand simile just fine. You probably actually meant "analogy" though, they're different things.

In any case, I don't think anyone has a right to bait bears with food and expect not to be mauled. I do think everyone has the right to pass out in a person's bedroom without being raped.

A simile is a comparison using like or as. thanks for playing.

1. we know there are criminals and rapists out there.
2. women know this.
3. women need to take it upon themselves to have responsibility for their own safety and not rely on strangers, random people, or others to protect them
4. since women are equal to men and men are expected to protect themselves women have to do the same or they violate feminism

Nice job not responding to my post btw

I can do what I want.
#feminism2014

[Prometheus]

It's incredibly easy to argue with feminists. Simply find a position that they're going on about and then think about how it relates to men. In this case it's a simple argument in favor of gender equality. Men are expected to protect themselves. We cannot even open doors for feminists without them spazzing * i can do it myself * . ok. so you can open doors for yourself. that self-determinacy means you can protect yourself against violent assailants too because you don't *need* a man's help. pwnt

Shit, I've been punched for holding a door open before. Three times. Now I save that courtesy for little old ladies and people with their hands full, who will fucking appreciate it.


I'm going to take a bit of a middle ground on this subject. Yes, women absolutely need to do a better job of taking responsibility for not putting themselves in risky situations. And there is an actual problem with rape culture.

Often times when a woman who can barely stand is being dragged around, no one questions it, or if they do, they don't put any effort into finding out if the situation is actually shady or not. That's rape culture. Universities actively discourage reports of rape to protect their reputations, as opposed to finding the perpetrator. That's rape culture. Any time someone makes any excuse equating 'she deserved it because X', that's rape culture. Some guy seem to believe that as long as they aren't actively being fought off, it's ok. That's rape culture. Good god, look at Stubenville, that's super rape culture right there.

Enjoying the scenery, or even making a fair attempt to go camping in it, is not, no matter how much some of the misandrists (I refuse to lump man-haters in with actual feminists) claim it is.

All that said, I'm completely on board with people who say women need to watch themselves. Don't get blackout drunk, don't lose track of your beverage. It can be a dangerous world out there, don't be reckless.

I seriously doubt that there are as many cases of 'got drunk and regret it' as people like to claim. I'm sure it happens from time to time, but it's used as a blanket excuse to ignore the real situation.

The thing I have a hard time understanding is why women are so reluctant to report rapists. I know a few victims that didn't report, and only one had a reasonable excuse for it (she had 5 older brothers, and they would have quite probably killed the guy if they knew who he was, which she felt was too extreme.)

[fanglekai]

It's 99% that they got too drunk and regretted it later on. Otherwise why are they so retarded that they put themselves in situations knowing full well what is going to transpire?

There's something to be said about older women and the manners and culture that existed before feminism came around to ruin everything.