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Offline Bewbees

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Re: Just Another SnB Q thread
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2014, 03:52:53 am »
Shit meth just isnt worth holding a bottle of camping fuel under 100+ psi, do a few snb but move on to rp/i when you can.

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Re: Just Another SnB Q thread
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2014, 05:36:11 am »
Brother Bewbees dropping knowledge like is on sale
  :roll:
  Ok maybe you`re right.  Oh, and the Heisenberg guy did a phenylacetone cook. That`s 50/50 d,l meth. (racemate)Which I`m sure sucks balls more than Snb meth (after purification). BUT I will still try to snb in the near future even tho nobody really answered my q`s , I have the feeling that a press cooker won`t blow up as easy...
 (thank you Σ for the gasoline answer) 8)
  Moderators: please leave this thread open... i`m gonna post my experience with these ideas... and maybe someone who cooked a batch of shitty tweaker meth at least once, can enlighten me... thanks for ur contribution boobguy, you have shown me ohsohardtofind synths from beneath the internet  that use mercury chloride ... so.. a bottle of camping fuel is more dangerous than reacting mercury  with aluminum and other shit..?   :roll: 

  |Maybe the purple cow could help.. or the meffhead

 Thanks

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Re: Just Another SnB Q thread
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2014, 06:06:25 am »
Lol those synths werent really for you, just contributing info. Those are phenylacetone(P2P) synths that i posted and yes they are 100000x safer than one pot synths, nigga you crazy? You think  some random strangers half assed one pot synth is going to be better than a Rhodium synth???

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Re: Just Another SnB Q thread
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2014, 06:24:39 am »
Lol those synths werent really for you, just contributing info. Those are phenylacetone(P2P) synths that i posted and yes they are 100000x safer than one pot synths, nigga you crazy? You think  some random strangers half assed one pot synth is going to be better than a Rhodium synth???
I don`t know, really... just fucking around w mercury sounds WAY dangerous... the only nasty part in snb is the Li... getting it from batteries fast enough sounds less risky than mercury or phenyalaceone n shit... fume hoods, electric plates n shit . Hard2get chems too... and pretty watched...
 The only good thing about my country *i`m from EU*, is that I can find a "pretty" cheap and pure OTC eph source, but nothing ubuv 300mgs/pharmacy... dry acetone, kmno4, various acids etc. pretty easy to find. Rp, Ether, Tol, Xylene, Naphta are rare to find legally
 I fucked around a while with methcathinone, but it kinda sucks balls. Same fam as mdpv, 4mec and other rcs... amph sulphate- hate it with all my heart... meth ? - nadda :| nothing..
 
 There`s no meth here. Most people never even heard of it... so yes, 4-5 grams of tweaker mess for 15 dollars is acceptable.
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Re: Just Another SnB Q thread
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2014, 06:43:20 am »
naptha, lye, and muriatic acid are much worse when they're mixed together under huge amounts of pressure. What makes real synths so much better is that the reactions are spread out and more easily controlled with the added benefit of not having it explode in your face.

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Re: Just Another SnB Q thread
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2014, 07:35:29 am »
Hi
 I was looking into diff meth rxns as I am tired of the bullshit drug that mcat is. It`s so short acting and I became bored of it pretty quick, so I decided to readup on meth synths.
  The Rp/I looks the easiest but scrapping so much mbs is too time consuming. I can`t afford to scrape rp in my house... or any other friends house etc. And I don`t have the necessary time either...  :(
 So I stumbled over this s`nb stuff a while ago... it looks pretty fkn simple but I don`t really wanna blow half a hand off without knowing  >:( ... so I have a few Q`s:
 1. Why add the water (even that little ammount) ? The Lithium will heat up the solvents and shit and explode...
 2. Why not do it in a pressure cooker or something similar... for small ammounts this sounds pretty safe ...
 3. I tried reading up on this problem but didn`t have any real luck..  Can I substitute Ammonium Nitrate with Ammonium chloride? I`ve seen some threads stating that any ammonia salt will work the same.. Like with ammonium chloride (NH4Cl  + NaOH  --> NaCl (aq) + H2O + NH3  .. so nh3 is made just like in the case of the AN snb.
 4. Also, will gasoline work as a NP ? It`s the only zippo fluid that I can grab..
 5. Won`t premixing the materials be safer..? As in dropping it over Li and all the sudo THEN pouring the NP? Or pouring the np first, then Li, then all the other stuff.. then cap the press cooker and praying ?
 
  English is not my primary language so bare w me.  :roll:
 

 Thanks in advance
 

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Re: Just Another SnB Q thread
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2014, 01:03:08 pm »
so you can eat my balls while I sleep for eternity

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Re: Just Another SnB Q thread
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2014, 02:33:32 pm »
naptha, lye, and muriatic acid are much worse when they're mixed together under huge amounts of pressure. What makes real synths so much better is that the reactions are spread out and more easily controlled with the added benefit of not having it explode in your face.

This Information on the Birch is not accurate in this thread. Both Birch and the modified Birch (s&b), are fully legit reactions.  When performed by a qualified person, they are fairly safe, produce both high yields and high quality and is LESS likely to "explode".  Also Remember, d-MA is d-MA after the work up.

1. Muriatic is not part of the Birch or modified-Birch. Some may use it as a HCl sourch when salting out the finished Amine.

2. Modified Birch does not produce "huge amounts of pressure. " It varies from 50-100 psi given typical rxns and is "self-limiting" meaning as pressure builds...the reaction slows.*

 Caution is still necessary,  but it is NOT what people/law/media make it out to be. (*50-100 grams each of anhydrous NaOH and Ammonia Nitrate in a non-polar soultion Is: a. Not a huge amount. b. Reactants are polar-soluble only, so if combined In non-polar fuel they remain solid and react relatively slow through surface contact)
       Smart people use thick plastic bottles designed to withstand about double that amount  such as home soda making bottles. Failures do happen...but they are quite unimpressive.  No explosions. Just dribbling out with small sprays and a cat piss smell.
     Bad explosions happen when people that take no time to understand whay they are doing, dump a few Ounces of water into the rv. Do not blame the Birch Reduction; blame stupid people.

3. Birch reaction (including a proper s&b) is actually fairly safe reaction, very easily controllable, and is a 100% legit reaction. In the world of Organic Chemistry NaOH, AN, Li and otc polar solvents are about as non-toxic as it gets. They are mild irritants. 

      HI from the rp/i or HI/P is way more toxic. Those reactions are WAY more temperamental with fires/explosions common. Toxic fumes get even worse with some procedures making HI or Methylamine.

4. Yields for Birch are both potentially higher and more consistent.  Though Modified Birch is severely limited in terms of size.

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Re: Just Another SnB Q thread
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2014, 05:05:01 pm »
^Shit noobs. Li/NH3 reduction uses anhydrous ammonia OP cant even find naptha and its very very dangerous. The process your referring to isnt used anymore, the newer methods of one pots are further modified to exclude AA. These methods can produce good yields but not out of a gatorade bottle by you tards. On zoklet Psychodelic(i think) had a good thread on SnB where he helped a newbie try and he said the vessel had to be under 200psi before the rection even started.

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Re: Just Another SnB Q thread
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2014, 08:54:52 am »
The process your referring to isnt used anymore, the newer methods of one pots are further modified to exclude AA. These methods can produce good yields but not out of a gatorade bottle by you tards. On zoklet Psychodelic(i think) had a good thread on SnB where he helped a newbie try and he said the vessel had to be under 200psi before the rection even started.
  Exclude AA? Wow don`t tell me, sodium? Why are you talking like a goddamn pro when all u do is talk out ur ass about shit that you know nothing about (only what you read). So stfu, stop trying to be worlock ... I`m pretty sure you didn`t "cook" anything .. you know why? Because ur posting shit that was published in the year 2000. Yes, we can see you understand chemistry, but never attempted what`s written there... Advising one to use da fkn mercury method and implying it is less dangerous and produces higher yields (30% u moron) is retarded. Ur are almost saying u DID use that method, and it DID work better...
 If ur such a pro why the fuck didn`t you give PROPER explanations to why THIS or THAT won`t work. Why? Because you don`t know what the fuck ur talking about :)
 Get off your high horse u retard.
 All meth threads are full of your bullshit... "oh nooo listen to Bewbees, he dropz knowledge lik3 Iz 0n s4Lez///" ... knowledge? The shit ur posting is from erowid/rhodium etc published waaay back in 99..
  Tardz? AlHarringtonCHN is a good guy. Giving PROPER explanations, and doesn`t run around calling people "tardz" or "noobZ"(u fucking L33tWh0re) ...
 Giving a tv show character as an example? "D0 it duh HeiZenBergz meth0d.. much clean.. pro meth.. full purity (over 101%)"
 

  :) no offence brah.. get down on ur knees kuntilingus